Re: Highlighting trailing spaces

2003-02-06 Thread Vlad Romanenko
 On Wed, 05 Feb 2003, Pavel Roskin wrote:
 
  On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 03:34:10 +0100 Arpi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Btw, the Makefile syntax ruleset also contains an ugly part,
showing TABs
   with bright red backround. It's even worse, as TABs are correct
there.
 
  I like it - I don't forget to add TABs when adding new lines to
Makefiles the
  Maybe it should be made less ugly?
 
 I tried but could not find any better color.

What about black? I found it better then bright red.

Vlad Romanenko.
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Re: contrib directory badly needed

2003-02-06 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello!

 Good idea. Moreover mc homepage should be more informative. If nobody
 protests, I could improve the mc homepage when I have more time, or
 even rebuild it from scratch. I develop some commercial sites
 (http://www.rpg-portal.pl http://www.nostromorpg.pl), so you could be
 sure I know how things work in web design.

Both sites don't resolve, so I cannot see your work.

I agree that the homepage needs to be improved.  Please avoid Javascript
and frames and make sure that the site remains useful with lynx.

It would be great if you could show your preliminary design before you
spend too much time on the new homepage.

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Re: contrib directory badly needed

2003-02-06 Thread Adam Byrtek / alpha
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 07:52:49AM -0500, Pavel Roskin wrote:
 Both sites don't resolve, so I cannot see your work.

Sorry, some network problems. I'll kill the server admin when I catch
him.

 Please avoid Javascript and frames and make sure that the site
 remains useful with lynx.

Don't worry, I prefer simple and useful design.

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Re: Update TODO list

2003-02-06 Thread Arpi
Hi,

 1) It's about time to make ftp to sites like ftp.mcafee.com.
 If other programs can why do we not?

As soon as we (mplayer team) are over the 0.90 release (should
happen in a few days) i'll start my work on rewritting ftpfs.
The current code is (sorry) a messy hack, with lots of bad
assumptions and unhandled errors. It ay work with wu-ftpd, but
for example it cannot chdir to homedir on proftpd, and i don't
even want to imagine when it meets our hungarian language AIX
server...

I've already spent lots of time improving ftpfs in 4.1.35 in AMC,
and i see the same problems still exists in 4.6.0.

So, cound on me for ftpfs.

Some more TODO entries:

The fishfs is a little buggy, if you start transferring a big
file and then aborts with ctrl+c, it gets into unusable state,
and thanks to the vfs dir cache you have to quit mc and restart
to get it working again...
Maybe someone familiar with fishfs code could fix it?

Another important issue i found is that patchfs doens't handle
delete, so if you enter a 'patch', and edit a 'file' in it,
it will append the edited version but don't remove the original
part, rendering it unusably broken.
Delete/edit support is (imho) required for patchfs to make it
useful. Unfortunatelly it's written in perl, so i can't volunteer
fixing it, unless i rewrite it in C or bash.

The lslR-fs is cool, but it's extremly slow (try to enter a 80mb
ls-lR file) and eats extremly high memory (aoround 200mb for that
80mb lslr file). I think we should write 'native' support for it,
just like for tar and cpio. It could do an initial pass, searching
for directories, and storing the position in the lslR file as 'inode',
and when the user enters a directory, then jump to that position and
parse that part only.


A'rpi / Astral  ESP-team

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Re: Update TODO list

2003-02-06 Thread Nerijus Baliunas
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 14:29:42 +0100 Arpi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The fishfs is a little buggy, if you start transferring a big
 file and then aborts with ctrl+c, it gets into unusable state,
 and thanks to the vfs dir cache you have to quit mc and restart
 to get it working again...

Command-Free VFSs now should probably help.

Regards,
Nerijus

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Re: Update TODO list

2003-02-06 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hi, David!

 Now that we have the 4.6.0 it's time to plain future work.

Right.  I think the development should stay on the 4.6 branch for a while.
There are many rather simple things to be done, and having separate
branches would increase the load on the developers and the time from a
patch to the stable release that includes it.

Once we need to do anything serious that may need more than a month for
stabilization, the 4.6 branch will be created for stable releases, while
the development will be done on the head.  I hope to release at least
4.6.1 before we come to that point, although I'm getting increasingly busy
with my job and personal life, which means that the project will be more
dependent on contributions by other developers.

 I would propose a couple of things...

 1) It's about time to make ftp to sites like ftp.mcafee.com. If other
 programs can why do we not?

Which programs can do it?  I looked at the output of the ls command, and
it looks like that handling such a different format would require a very
advanced parser.  At least remote_is_amiga shouldn't be the only site
specific flag.

Also, the complexity of the code may require a testsuite, i.e. emulators
of different sites, so that whoever changes the code could easily check it
for regressions.

 2) l10n is nearly there, which is great as this is like a
 huge puzzle. We should think of some way to have the user menu
 (the stock entries) translated.

I've been thinking about this.  If we make separate menu files and keep
them on CVS, it will be hard to keep the default menu in sync.

We could make the menu a script that would generate the actual menu at the
runtime using its arguments (current file, current directory, presence of
certain files).  Python is already supported by gettext, but that would be
an additional requirement for mc.  Perl support is planned.

The simplest solution would be to create a C file with all translatable
texts used in the default menu.  That file should be listed in
po/POTFILES.in but not compiled.  mc will translate menu entries on the
fly when they are about to be displayed.  Non-standard entries won't be
translated, which is not good if there are users with different language
preferences on the same machine.

Another possibility would be to generate the menu files in all supported
languages at the compile time.  The source would have all the strings and
would be listed in po/POTFILES.in.  The menu file will be selected at the
runtime based on the locale.

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