Removing myself from the project

2008-12-17 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello!

Most messages posted to the mailing lists are spam.  Most comments added
to the bug tracker are spam.  I simply don't have to deal with it every
day.  Neither do I have time to deal with site administrators to fix the
spam problem upstream.  Therefore, I'm removing myself from the list of
mailing list moderators and from the list of project members on
Savannah.

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What's happening at MC's headquarters

2008-12-17 Thread Marcel Pol

Hello,

I'm wondering what the state of MC is and where it's going. There were
plans of a new release, but apparently it's not really happening yet.
Also, I don't see many developers around anymore. I'm wondering how
many active developers there are currently. I though Pavel Tsekov was
the current project leader, but his last mail on the mailinglist is
from March 2008, which is more then half a year ago.

I would really like to see MC florish again, I love the software, and
couldn't live without it. I am a happy user, and also quite happy with
the rather nasty bugs that have been fixed in the last couple of years,
and the new features and improvements that there have been.
I have no doubt that if this project doesn't carry on, that people on a
different place will pick it up, like the people at Redhat currently
seem to be doing. They are posting their work in MC's bug-database,
where it can be picked up it seems. 
I'm just wondering what exactly is going on, and what the state of
affairs is. Are there any plans to move this project forward?

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Re: Removing myself from the project

2008-12-17 Thread Patrick Winnertz
Hey Pavel,

Could you please be so kind and add me to the list of people who are allowed 
to commit into the cvs? I would like to work further on mc and integrate 
patches from the mc clone into mc. It would be very sad if mc will die out.

Greetings
Winnie
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Re: Removing myself from the project

2008-12-17 Thread Janek Kozicki
Patrick Winnertz said: (by the date of Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:07:46 +0100)

 Hey Pavel,
 
 Could you please be so kind and add me to the list of people who are allowed 
 to commit into the cvs? I would like to work further on mc and integrate 
 patches from the mc clone into mc. It would be very sad if mc will die out.

wow! I'm very happy that there is an active contributor coming in!

Would you be so kind to consider my feature request?

  http://mail.gnome.org/archives/mc-devel/2008-November/msg3.html


until your message I was seriously worried that mc is dead already.

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Re: Removing myself from the project

2008-12-17 Thread Pavel Roskin
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 20:07 +0100, Patrick Winnertz wrote:
 Hey Pavel,
 
 Could you please be so kind and add me to the list of people who are allowed 
 to commit into the cvs? I would like to work further on mc and integrate 
 patches from the mc clone into mc. It would be very sad if mc will die out.

I don't have such permission.

The usual approach is that somebody wishing to contribute code posts
patches to the mailing list.  Other developers review the patches and
commit them.  Once the contributor posts many consistently good patches,
he or she is granted commit access by the project administrator.

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Re: What's happening at MC's headquarters

2008-12-17 Thread Slava Zanko
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Marcel Pol wrote:

 I'm wondering what the state of MC is and where it's going. There were
 plans of a new release, but apparently it's not really happening yet.
 Also, I don't see many developers around anymore. I'm wondering how
 many active developers there are currently. I though Pavel Tsekov was
 the current project leader, but his last mail on the mailinglist is
 from March 2008, which is more then half a year ago.
 
 I would really like to see MC florish again, I love the software, and
 couldn't live without it. I am a happy user, and also quite happy with
 the rather nasty bugs that have been fixed in the last couple of years,
 and the new features and improvements that there have been.
 I have no doubt that if this project doesn't carry on, that people on a
 different place will pick it up, like the people at Redhat currently
 seem to be doing. They are posting their work in MC's bug-database,
 where it can be picked up it seems. 
 I'm just wondering what exactly is going on, and what the state of
 affairs is. Are there any plans to move this project forward?

Hi, Marcel.
I'm don't know the reasons why developers can't further develop the
Midnight Commander project too. :(

But may be this project is more interesting to you:
http://mc.redhat-club.org/trac

Some in resource by link in Russian, sorry. But your messages in English
(suggestions, comments, bugreports, etc) always are welcome.

We (a new developers team) are now prepare mail to this maillist for
transfer to us the name of Midnight Commander (mc) and the main
branches of develop.


WBR, Slavaz.
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Further Midnight Commander development

2008-12-17 Thread Slava Zanko
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Hello, dear developers! It is no secret that the recent console manager
Midnight Commander stopped in its development. We do not know the
reasons why this is happening, but we badly want to see its further
development. In fact, the Midnight Commander is developing further, but
distributions in the form of patches, for each distribution its own set
of patches. In fact, there are many versions of modern MS for each
distribution.

Our team was formed recently, we have only just begun working on
Midnight Commander, we have yet to be established, the relationship
within the team have formed. But we are striving to become a team, which
will be beneficial to all fans MC (a lot of them). Already, we have
created assembly, which could satisfy both users of Debian/Ubuntu,
FreeBSD and Gentoo, and users of Red Hat Linux distributions, Open Suse,
MandRiva etc.

You may have to apologize already issued release mc-4.6.3 (actually, we
do not have the right to publish under that name). It is better to ask
forgiveness than permission..  :)

We are a young team, we ask that you permit the continued development of
Midnight Commander it was under this name. Also, please refer to us the
files CVS repository for the preservation of history and development of
the names of all people, ever participated in the development mc. We
understand that this may be shocking request, but nevertheless, we hope
to receive any response - if the answer is we simply will Forque, which
we hope will develop further. We want to see MC very comfortable and
pleasant, not as it is now.

Best regards,


Alex Custov
Andrew Savchenko
Denis Frolov
Dmitry Korzhevin
Pavel Vasil'ev
Slava Zanko

http://mc.redhat-club.org

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Re: Further Midnight Commander development

2008-12-17 Thread Janek Kozicki
Slava Zanko said: (by the date of Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:23:07 +0200)


 Alex Custov
 Andrew Savchenko
 Denis Frolov
 Dmitry Korzhevin
 Pavel Vasil'ev
 Slava Zanko

Isn't Patrick Winnertz part of your newly formed development team?
I guess that he wants to be! He just asked for write access to CVS.

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Re: Further Midnight Commander development

2008-12-17 Thread Patrick Winnertz
Am Thursday 18 December 2008 07:39:30 schrieben Sie:
 Slava Zanko said: (by the date of Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:23:07 +0200)

  Alex Custov
  Andrew Savchenko
  Denis Frolov
  Dmitry Korzhevin
  Pavel Vasil'ev
  Slava Zanko

 Isn't Patrick Winnertz part of your newly formed development team?
 I guess that he wants to be! He just asked for write access to CVS.
No, I'm the maintainer of mc inside debian and using it very heavily. I wrote 
some smaller patches for mc which I posted to the list several months ago. 
After no reaction I worked for my own. 
If nobody has any objections I would like to work together with this new team 
on the development of mc. 

Greetings
Winnie


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