Re: MC/ncurses on cygwin: Borders turn into chinese characters and layout screws up

2009-11-20 Thread Charles Wilson
Adrian May wrote:
 Please don't involve me in your triage process or ask me to send it
 somewhere else. I've had that several times before and I think it's
 rubbish to expect a user to navigate a project's internal processes just
 because you expect them to feel good about contributing to an open
 source project. It's not my product or my problem. You've seen the
 proof, so figure it out for yourselves.
 
 Just a quickie for cygwin: if you insist on patronising your customers
 about their bug reporting skills (http://cygwin.com/problems.html) then
 may I suggest that you show some smartness yourselves by just telling us
 which bloody mailing list to use right there in the bug reporting page
 instead of making us hunt through the rest of the site. Better still,
 provide a form and have it search the archives itself.

Go to hell, you rude jerk.  This is a VOLUNTEER project.  You are asking
me -- as cygwin/ncurses maintainer -- or someone else, as cygwin/mc
maintainer -- to take time away our family or loved ones, or away from
doing some other enjoyable activity, and instead fix a problem FOR YOU,
a stranger I do not know.

I don't see this problem.  You do.  So, it doesn't really affect my life
-- you're asking me for a favor.  To increase the likelihood of me
sacrificing my precious and limited free time to help you, some random
schmoe on the internet, for no reward other than the warm fuzzy of
helping a stranger -- you should make it as easy as possible to help
you, and reduce MY cost (in time away from the more enjoyable things in
life) so that I'm more likely to pay it, and help you.

Or...you can rudely insult me.

Your choice -- but guess which one is more likely to get your problem
fixed (remember, I don't see it, so it doesn't bug me at all).

--
Chuck

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Re: MC/ncurses on cygwin: Borders turn into chinese characters and layout screws up

2009-11-20 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
Hi!

Actually it's a pretty old version of mc which is no longer supported,
but if it's reproducible on latest master, then we might want to have a
look at it. Mind you, however, that no one is using cygwin over here, so
you'll have to have quite a bit of involvement in the process for us to
fix it.

P.S. I imagine you're pretty much pissed off, but even having this
considered, your social skills do not impress and you formulated your
request in a most stupid / unhelpful way possible.

P.P.S. Now I almost hear you swearing that you gonna stop using mc /
cygwin... Who the heck cares about that?.. :-)
 
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Sincerely yours,
Yury V. Zaytsev

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Re: [Pkg-mc-devel] bug in mc, version 2:4.7.0-pre1-3: wrong file date

2009-11-20 Thread Yury V. Zaytsev
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 18:53 +0100, Uwe Bugla wrote:

 The date of the files is wrongly presented, as the first digit is
 missing. So for example November 19 is presented as November 9,
 and November 20 or 10 are presented as November 0.
 
 Can you please
 a. reproduce and
 b. fix
 
 that bug?

I guess this is already fixed upstream. We will come up with an updated
package as soon as a stable 4.7.0 release hits the scene.
 
-- 
Sincerely yours,
Yury V. Zaytsev

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