Re: Some keys are not properly recognized in Konsole/xterm
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:25:46 +0100 Yury V. Zaytsev wrote: This does not really explain why the default key bindings were switched from Ctrl+PgUp and Ctrl+PgDown that I've been using unconsciously for quite a long time at all. Oh, sorry... I didn't quite understand that e-mail. The discussed change of keybindings was inpired by http://www.midnight-commander.org/ticket/1724#comment:4 and http://www.midnight-commander.org/ticket/1724#comment:22 -- Andrew ___ Mc-devel mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: Some keys are not properly recognized in Konsole/xterm
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 10:23 +, frank wrote: This does not really explain why the default key bindings were switched from Ctrl+PgUp and Ctrl+PgDown that I've been using unconsciously for quite a long time at all. Quite correct and quite oblivious of reality. It must be at least 10 years that editors have standardised on Ctrl-Home and Ctrl-End to move to begin resp. end of buffer. To me, the bigger problem is not what keys are used but whether or or not it works at all. And since the ctrl-home and ctrl-end key combos don't work with MC in GNOME terminal, this change broke the functionality. As best I can tell, the MC developers are blaming the breakage on GNOME terminal and the GNOME terminal developers are saying they won't change the way the key bindings work because it would break lots of other stuff. Is there perhaps some way that these other editors you're mentioning detect Konsole or GNOME terminal and adapt to their slightly out of whack xterm escape sequences? Perhaps MC could be adapted to work correctly with them too. I've been an MC user for at least a decade but changes that have been showing up in recent versions of the MC editor are making the program more and more difficult to use productively. (other nits that annoy me are the recent breakage of the cursor that makes it float out past the real end of line and not wrap correctly, and the earlier change that replaced white space with gibberish characters) And, sorry, I don't really mean to give the idea I don't like MC, because up until recently I've always been a huge proponent of MC and installed it on every GNU/Linux system I've used as well as using it on HPUX, AIX, Solaris, and other systems. It really is a great program and I appreciate all the hard work that's gone into it. :) -Steve ___ Mc-devel mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Release out stable mc-4.7.0.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Release out stable branch with version 4.7.0.2 Also, this is announce about new workflow of releases: http://www.midnight-commander.org/wiki/ReleaseWorkflow Download page: http://www.midnight-commander.org/downloads Major changes since 4.7.0.1: Whats new: http://www.midnight-commander.org/wiki/NEWS-4.7.0.2 - -- WBR, dev-team. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktobbMACgkQb3oGR6aVLpqObgCcCfRV7h0U8oeDL/rDCtuPqa76 OUYAnijDE+qLm7Sd1+wTsWrbZTEzV359 =ZUsO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mc-devel mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: Some keys are not properly recognized in Konsole/xterm
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 10:56 -0600, R. Steven Rainwater wrote: To me, the bigger problem is not what keys are used but whether or or not it works at all. And since the ctrl-home and ctrl-end key combos don't work with MC in GNOME terminal, this change broke the functionality. As best I can tell, the MC developers are blaming the breakage on GNOME terminal and the GNOME terminal developers are saying they won't change the way the key bindings work because it would break lots of other stuff. Are they saying anything at all? Actually, I have just tried Ctrl+PgUp / Ctrl+PgDown (which you can free from the settings dialog) and Ctrl+Home / Ctrl+End on 4.7.0.1 in Gnome Terminal and neither of those takes me to the beginning / end of file. Ctrl+PgUp / Ctrl+PgDown take me to the beginning or the end of the buffer and Ctrl+Home / Ctrl+End behave identically to Home/End. ... I've been an MC user for at least a decade but changes that have been showing up in recent versions of the MC editor are making the program more and more difficult to use productively. (other nits that annoy me are the recent breakage of the cursor that makes it float out past the real end of line and not wrap correctly, and the earlier change that replaced white space with gibberish characters) Both of these are optional and should be off by default. If this is not the case with the latest version, please submit a bug report. -- Sincerely yours, Yury V. Zaytsev ___ Mc-devel mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
