Re: Ctrl-A, Ctrl-E have no effect

2014-12-13 Thread Paul Sokolovsky
Hello,

On Sun, 7 Dec 2014 09:51:06 -0800
Graham Lawrence gl00...@gmail.com wrote:

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   My laptop lacks certain keys, notably Home, End, PgUp and
   PgDown.  Alt-V and Ctrl-V provide the function of PgUp and
   PgDown.  Supposedly Ctrl-A and Ctrl-E should supply those of
   Home and End, but in fact do nothing.
 
  Hmm, and prooflinks for should part?

 Not sure what you mean by this, but I'm referring to
 both /etc/mc/mc.keymap and /etc/mc/mc.default.keymap as the source of
 should ..., which on my system lists these two entries
 Home = ctrl-a; alt-lt; home; a1
 End = ctrl-e; alt-gt; end; c1
 None of these options  work for me.

Yes, that's what I meant, thanks. I just find it surprising in
non-exciting sense that there're too many key combos in mc, not known
to many people (for example, I find it quite confusing that Ctrl+V is
bound to page down). 

   I've tried putting
   other key combos in mc.keymap instead, but they also had no
   effect.
  
   Do I need to make a special compile of MC to get their
   particular functionality, or is there some other means to
   that end?
 
  You can try Learn keys functionality to redefine mc keys to some
  extent.
 
 
 That I did, with no success.  I duly pressed Space with Home and
 End the current selection, pressed Ctrl-A/E respectively and then
 repeated that key-combo when the Help message cleared, but in neither
 case did it then show OK for the choice.

I can confirm that it doesn't work for me either (with git master).

Out of curiosity, do you have your keys broken, or you one of these
laptop novelties which don't have important keys? In the latter case, I
gather there should be hardware/firmware key combos to emulate Home,
End, PgUp, PgDn, etc. At least, that's what I have on Samsung ARM
Chromebook.

Otherwise, yes, I guess the only option currently is to patch source
code.


-- 
Best regards,
 Paul  mailto:pmis...@gmail.com
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Re: Bug tracker doesn't work

2014-12-13 Thread Egmont Koblinger
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Paul Sokolovsky pmis...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can confirm this behavior when posting comments to tickets too.

I can see some of the developers (most notable probably andrew_b and
slavazanko) still creating branches, fixing bugs on random one-off
basis.

In the mean time, you can see in the archives of mc-bugs that it's
full of duplicate reports (actually many bugs filed like 5-10 times
due to broken trac) and full of spam and fake registrations.

Dear developers, dear Andrew, Slava and others,

I'd like you to understand that at this point that fixing the
development architecture and process of mc is the most critical issue,
pretty much blocking everything else.

Apparently you don't have much time, that's okay, but please stop
spending that little time on one-off minor bugfixes, and please please
pretty-pretty-please focus all your efforts on fixing trac and fixing
the problem with lack of developer resources.  Please work on getting
new people on the project, work on getting yourselves out of the way
from being the bottlenecks.

At this point, you spending your time on fixing issues like pasting in
mcedit (to mention one random) won't get the project anywhere other
than its grave.  You need to fix the development processes so that
others can join the effort and they can fix pasting in mcedit and
hundreds of similar technical issues, without being blocked by a
broken bugtracker and nonresponsive developers.


thanks,
egmont
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