Re: Bug tracker doesn't work
Hi all, I've fixed Trac, but have yet another issue: long awaiting time to post comments. 2014-12-16 9:55 GMT+03:00 Andrew Borodin aboro...@vmail.ru: On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 15:23:03 +0100 Egmont Koblinger egm...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like you to understand that at this point that fixing the development architecture and process of mc is the most critical issue, pretty much blocking everything else. Slava is working on fixing bugtracker. Unfortunately, I can't help him because I don't have any experience of administration and support of real web services. -- Andrew ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: Bug tracker doesn't work
Hello, On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 14:08:57 +0300 slava zanko slavaza...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I've fixed Trac, but have yet another issue: long awaiting time to post comments. So, it's apparently the same problem: there was too long waiting time before, up to frontend webserver timing out waiting for reply from Trac, while operation was actually carried over. Can you please reply something to a proposal of using Github more actively? Thanks. 2014-12-16 9:55 GMT+03:00 Andrew Borodin aboro...@vmail.ru: On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 15:23:03 +0100 Egmont Koblinger egm...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like you to understand that at this point that fixing the development architecture and process of mc is the most critical issue, pretty much blocking everything else. Slava is working on fixing bugtracker. Unfortunately, I can't help him because I don't have any experience of administration and support of real web services. -- Andrew ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel -- Best regards, Paul mailto:pmis...@gmail.com ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: Bug tracker doesn't work
On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 15:23:03 +0100 Egmont Koblinger egm...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like you to understand that at this point that fixing the development architecture and process of mc is the most critical issue, pretty much blocking everything else. Slava is working on fixing bugtracker. Unfortunately, I can't help him because I don't have any experience of administration and support of real web services. -- Andrew ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: Bug tracker doesn't work
Hello, On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 15:23:03 +0100 Egmont Koblinger egm...@gmail.com wrote: [] At this point, you spending your time on fixing issues like pasting in mcedit (to mention one random) won't get the project anywhere other than its grave. You need to fix the development processes so that others can join the effort and they can fix pasting in mcedit and hundreds of similar technical issues, without being blocked by a broken bugtracker and nonresponsive developers. +1 Well, it's certainly not bad that maintainers keep fixing bugs per their local queues, but ignoring most of the other project communication doesn't call for bright thoughts about project process and future. Regarding brokenness of the current project infrastructure, if we really talk about project dying, one approach is not to exert extraordinary (*) effort to revamp it and then keep applying same extraordinary effort to maintain it. Instead, current infra can be frozen and development process switched completely to a quality for free offering, specifically github. (*) If people say I didn't have much free time in last 3-4 years, then any effort taking more 15min average daily is extraordinary. thanks, egmont -- Best regards, Paul mailto:pmis...@gmail.com ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: Bug tracker doesn't work
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Paul Sokolovsky pmis...@gmail.com wrote: I can confirm this behavior when posting comments to tickets too. I can see some of the developers (most notable probably andrew_b and slavazanko) still creating branches, fixing bugs on random one-off basis. In the mean time, you can see in the archives of mc-bugs that it's full of duplicate reports (actually many bugs filed like 5-10 times due to broken trac) and full of spam and fake registrations. Dear developers, dear Andrew, Slava and others, I'd like you to understand that at this point that fixing the development architecture and process of mc is the most critical issue, pretty much blocking everything else. Apparently you don't have much time, that's okay, but please stop spending that little time on one-off minor bugfixes, and please please pretty-pretty-please focus all your efforts on fixing trac and fixing the problem with lack of developer resources. Please work on getting new people on the project, work on getting yourselves out of the way from being the bottlenecks. At this point, you spending your time on fixing issues like pasting in mcedit (to mention one random) won't get the project anywhere other than its grave. You need to fix the development processes so that others can join the effort and they can fix pasting in mcedit and hundreds of similar technical issues, without being blocked by a broken bugtracker and nonresponsive developers. thanks, egmont ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
