Re: Happy 20th Birthday!
MC was a great help for me to understand Unix file system in 1997 when I was doing my first steps with Linux. One of first installations was on a SCO Unix. It was the first project I translated into Italian and doing it I learned so many new things, gettext for a start... I like it so much that I use mcedit as my standard system editor and I am using it right now writing this email as a mutt companion. My very first action when I have installed a new Linux is: apt-get install mc or yum install mc ... I all agree with this last email apart from this: I think forums work better than mailing lists. I want to frame things up and respond to critique. And make it easy to do so. I really do not think so but, I respect other tastes. Peace. -- Marco Ciampa I know a joke about UDP, but you might not get it. ++ | Linux User #78271 | | FSFE fellow #364 | ++ ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Happy 20th Birthday!
On Thu, 30 Oct 2014 05:00:05 -0700, mc-devel-requ...@gnome.org wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Happy 20th Birthday! (Egmont Koblinger) ... Sadly, as this post points out, mc almost died twice already ? and the really sad aspect that casts a shadow to the current birthday is that I personally feel it's dying again for the third time. The initial passion from the new maintainers has faded. They hardly have time to work on the project. Many patches or important bugreports go unnoticed for long months or even years. Some tickets have heated technical discussions between some non-maintainers, yet the maintainers remain silent. Some contributors have already expressed that they've lost motivation due to the lack of response from developers, and alas more (including myself) are likely to follow. (This whole issue has been raised in [5].) I really don't know how this problem could be solved... I'm just hoping that we'll be able to figure out something. Anyways, for now, let's celebrate 20 years of Midnight Commander :) 1994? Yes, there are few records of the history of this obscure code. I've been using mc since the days when it sucked. The 4.6 years were pretty good, it worked well already, and some major things were hacked out. 4.8 series is awesome. I got away from it for a few years, came back, and some clever people had worked it right over. Sure, they missed a few things, but the code cleanup was great. Thank you who ever you are. I would help, I have a bunch of patches I apply to every new version. I don't understand the ticket system. I set one up, someone made a bizarre reply to it, and that's all that happened. I even showed the exact code that accomplished it. Nobody said yes or no, there was no dialog whether it sucked or was good. Someone just told me to make a ticket. Sounds like Russians to me. :) I would love to help. Tell me how. ps I like having my personal hacks for something like mc. It is my file manager. I don't use Nautilus or whatever. Maybe mc-4.8.13 is getting very close to as perfect as software can get. It is very effective. I think forums work better than mailing lists. I want to frame things up and respond to critique. And make it easy to do so. Developers *are* users. mc is not Twinkies(tm) in crisp plastic wrap. It's more like something you cook at home. There ya go. Midnight Commander Cookbook. A million magic hacks. -- Peace and Cheer ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Happy 20th Birthday!
Recently I did some digging about the history of mc. It's unclear when the first version was released, the oldest I could find is mc-0.3 released on Apr 29, 1994 [1]. Version 1.0, the first one bearing the name Midnight Commander was released on Oct 29, 1994 [2]; exactly 20 years ago. (If you wonder what the original name was: check out the links!) A short blog entry from its author is at [3]. A very long, interesting story about mc's history can be read at [4]. Sadly, as this post points out, mc almost died twice already – and the really sad aspect that casts a shadow to the current birthday is that I personally feel it's dying again for the third time. The initial passion from the new maintainers has faded. They hardly have time to work on the project. Many patches or important bugreports go unnoticed for long months or even years. Some tickets have heated technical discussions between some non-maintainers, yet the maintainers remain silent. Some contributors have already expressed that they've lost motivation due to the lack of response from developers, and alas more (including myself) are likely to follow. (This whole issue has been raised in [5].) I really don't know how this problem could be solved... I'm just hoping that we'll be able to figure out something. Anyways, for now, let's celebrate 20 years of Midnight Commander :) [1] http://www.informatica.co.cr/linux-desktops/research/1994/0504.html [2] http://www.informatica.co.cr/linux-desktops/research/1994/1031.html [3] http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2009/Oct-06.html [4] http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/Paradigm/Ch04/mc.shtml [5] https://www.midnight-commander.org/ticket/3004 ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel