Re: [OT] Re: rename improvement
On Friday 07 March 2003 19:20, Pavel Roskin wrote: hm, should it do something ? i don't see the point to learn my shift key since it is a common key used on 100% of all machines, no fancy things that need to be learned. on the otherhand i don't see anything under learn keys that should bring me the requested rename feature. Not quite. Linux console may think that Shift-F4 is F16 in some keyboard layouts. It would be nice to discover this situation and adjust to it, but it has not been done. In fact, it has never been requested. Hello, I like to hook up this eMail again. I still have problems with this issue and F1...F12 - Shift+F1...Shift+F4 works perfectly but after that not. Ok this is Linux console related. Could you please go a bit deeper into this please and may give me a hint where I should look for this ? - Is it Getty related ? - Is it Console-Tools related ? - Is it Linux Kernel related ? OR - Is it Ncurses related ? I don't use a common Distribution so please don't ask for that but just for knowledge increasing an answer would be helpful. Maybe I can share it one day with someone else who needs it. ___ Mc-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: [OT] Re: rename improvement
Hello! Hello, I like to hook up this eMail again. I still have problems with this issue and F1...F12 - Shift+F1...Shift+F4 works perfectly but after that not. Ok this is Linux console related. Could you please go a bit deeper into this please and may give me a hint where I should look for this ? man loadkeys man dumpkeys Different keymaps used by loadkeys use different sequences for Shift with functional keys. There is no standard. The terminal capabilities described in terminfo tie those sequences to F11-F20. Since terminfo doesn't know anything about real settings (as shown by dumpkeys), you end up with different sequences for F11-F20. - Is it Getty related ? No. - Is it Console-Tools related ? Yes. Different non-standard keymaps are included there. - Is it Linux Kernel related ? OR Yes. The kernel has its default keymap. - Is it Ncurses related ? I would say no. ncurses is not supposed to get terminal settings from any other place but terminfo or termcap. -- Regards, Pavel Roskin ___ Mc-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: [OT] Re: rename improvement
On Wednesday 02 April 2003 22:30, Pavel Roskin wrote: Hello, I like to hook up this eMail again. I still have problems with this issue and F1...F12 - Shift+F1...Shift+F4 works perfectly but after that not. Ok this is Linux console related. Could you please go a bit deeper into this please and may give me a hint where I should look for this ? man loadkeys man dumpkeys Different keymaps used by loadkeys use different sequences for Shift with functional keys. There is no standard. The terminal capabilities described in terminfo tie those sequences to F11-F20. Since terminfo doesn't know anything about real settings (as shown by dumpkeys), you end up with different sequences for F11-F20. Intresting, I was playing with loadkeys and here the results: 1) I removed the init script for a moment and rebooted into Linux Shift+F6 worked perfectly. 2) Then I manually entered loadkeys with all it's combinations, various different Keymaps, default, us, de and so on even different command line parameters and they all remove the higher Shift+Fx keys. This really sucks specially if you depend on a germany keyboard layout. To make sure I'm not referencing to old stuff here I would like to point out that I'm using this http://lct.sourceforge.net/ package to load german keymaps and like to verify if this is what you and others use as well or are there any new packages on different locations that I'm missing here. This package seem to be outdated for 4 years now and I wouldn't wonder if the keymaps used in the datapackages doesn't match the ones from the Kernel anymore. Any ideas ? ___ Mc-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: rename improvement
Adam Byrtek / alpha wrote: Try using Shift-F6. Doesn't work either in console or wterm (AMC-4.6 CVS) -- Gabucino MPlayer Core Team - Debian? - This is our project and we can do whatever we want with it. Michael Stone mstone#debian.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[OT] Re: rename improvement
---cut--- Developer of MPlayer, the Movie Player for Linux - http://www.MPlayerHQ.hu However, many people beg for its inclusion in Debian. Why? - Gabucino Because having new software in Debian is good. - Josselin Mouette Because having good software in Debian is new. - Gabucino ---cut--- MPlayer Core Team - Debian? - This is our project and we can do whatever we want with it. Michael Stone mstone#debian.org ---cut--- You MPlayer people are SO ridiculous. Yes, I use MPlayer and I think its a great piece of software, but your overall attitude is quite amusing... Wage your silly war if you really need it. Sorry for OT. Regards -- _.|._ |_ _. : Adam Byrtek /alpha/ (_|||_)| |(_| : email alpha@(irc.pl|debian.org) | : jabber alpha.pl(at)jabber.org, pgp 0xB25952C0 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Re: rename improvement
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 12:05, Adam Byrtek / alpha wrote: You MPlayer people are SO ridiculous. Yes, I use MPlayer and I think its a great piece of software, but your overall attitude is quite amusing... Wage your silly war if you really need it. And you think your overall attitude right now justifies your reply ? Sorry my friend for me Shift+F6 doesn't work either but that's no reason pissing people off. Yes I use MPlayer too and It's obviously the best and only serious MediaPlayer available for Linux. I don't care what attitude someone has and what he or she is into privately. But I have high respect and I'm thankful to Gabucino and all the one who contributed for MPlayer. Without them we probably still deal with halfassed implementations of slow mediaplayers for the next 10 years. And now friendly back to the request. I still like to see that feature in Midnight Commander and this is a serious request. ___ Mc-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: rename improvement
Hi, Arpi wrote: it's like that in AMC since the beginning, because i also liked it that way. Are you sure? I use AMC-4.6 CVS and I get the pathname instead of filename. Unfortunately :( try the AMC 4.1 series :) 4.6 is far from being ready, i haven't ported all patches from 4.1 yet and as 4.6 already contains such thing (shift+f6) it would be better to fix in the main tree instead of my patch. A'rpi / Astral ESP-team -- Developer of MPlayer, the Movie Player for Linux - http://www.MPlayerHQ.hu However, many people beg for its inclusion in Debian. Why? - Gabucino Because having new software in Debian is good. - Josselin Mouette Because having good software in Debian is new. - Gabucino ___ Mc-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: [OT] Re: rename improvement
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 12:35:45PM +0100, Ali Akcaagac wrote: But I have high respect and I'm thankful to Gabucino and all the one who contributed for MPlayer. Yes, I'm also thankful to all MPlayer developers - you have made a lot of good work. I'm also thankful to all those people who created and develop Debian. Thats why I fell obligated to act when someone is trying to discredit Debian on a public forum, as I would act if somebody was trying to dicredit MPlayer or MC. If you want to speak with me about this subject, please mail me privately. I still like to see that feature in Midnight Commander and this is a serious request. So go and patch it. It should be very simple to patch. Regards Adam -- _.|._ |_ _. : Adam Byrtek /alpha/ (_|||_)| |(_| : email alpha@(irc.pl|debian.org) | : jabber alpha.pl(at)jabber.org, pgp 0xB25952C0 ___ Mc-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
