Re: stable vs. latest
On 04.04.2013 18:05, Egmont Koblinger wrote: Hi Egmont, I notified the maintainer of distrowatch.org, asked him to update the regexps that figure out the latest stable mc release. He told me - and unfortunately I can only agree with him - that the wording on MC's homepage is very confusing. I've updated the start page to avoid confusing. Thank you for your proposal. -- WBR, Slavaz. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: stable vs. latest
Hi guys, I notified the maintainer of distrowatch.org, asked him to update the regexps that figure out the latest stable mc release. He told me - and unfortunately I can only agree with him - that the wording on MC's homepage is very confusing. It mentions two releases, latest and latest stable, people would obviously think that the latest refers to unstable. The comment that tries to clarify the situation is more confusing rather than clarifying, how come you recommend not to use the stable? He insist - and again, I cannot disagree with it - that his page promotes the latest *stable* of all software. Given mc's new development model and the wording used right now, he would stick with 4.8.1.7 forever. Could you please reconsider the terminology, or the contents current homepage? E.g. you might begin to call the current releases 'stable', e.g. 4.8.8 is the first stable of the 4.8.x series. Or, you might want to remove the former stable 4.1.8.7 from the main homepage and keep it only in the Downloads section. Or something like this... Thanks a lot, egmont On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: On 2013-02-21 13:42 (GMT+0400) Andrew Borodin composed: On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 14:33:02 +0100 Egmont Koblinger wrote: Andrew: Is it that soon there will be a 4.9.1.x stable and 4.9.x devel series? No, not soon. 4.8.x series is still continued. 4.9 should be well stable, without major and annoying defects and with some major features. Above response leaves me quite confused. :-( Or you give up this development model and stick to a single branch from now on? Yep. You mean eventually there will be only one version instead of two? If the latter, I think it should be made obvious on the homepage (maybe when 4.8.8 is released), and the Our release workflow page should also be updated. Yes, certainly. My original thread starter question hasn't really been answered yet. Who is the 4.8.1.x branch for, since it seems major distro's latest releases are using 4.8.x, with openSUSE that doesn't even release using latest in 4.8.1.x line the only exception I'm aware of? -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ __**_ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/mc-develhttps://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: stable vs. latest
On 2013-02-21 13:42 (GMT+0400) Andrew Borodin composed: On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 14:33:02 +0100 Egmont Koblinger wrote: Andrew: Is it that soon there will be a 4.9.1.x stable and 4.9.x devel series? No, not soon. 4.8.x series is still continued. 4.9 should be well stable, without major and annoying defects and with some major features. Above response leaves me quite confused. :-( Or you give up this development model and stick to a single branch from now on? Yep. You mean eventually there will be only one version instead of two? If the latter, I think it should be made obvious on the homepage (maybe when 4.8.8 is released), and the Our release workflow page should also be updated. Yes, certainly. My original thread starter question hasn't really been answered yet. Who is the 4.8.1.x branch for, since it seems major distro's latest releases are using 4.8.x, with openSUSE that doesn't even release using latest in 4.8.1.x line the only exception I'm aware of? -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: stable vs. latest
Andrew: Is it that soon there will be a 4.9.1.x stable and 4.9.x devel series? Or you give up this development model and stick to a single branch from now on? If the latter, I think it should be made obvious on the homepage (maybe when 4.8.8 is released), and the Our release workflow page should also be updated. thanks, egmont On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Andrew Borodin aboro...@vmail.ru wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:19:11 -0500 Felix Miata wrote: Last Debian, Fedora *buntu releases had 4.8.x. Current Gentoo is 4.8.7. Mageia 3 is about to be released with 4.8.7. So, why does the stable/4.8.1.x branch even exist? There is no stable branch anymore. 4.8.1.7 was the last release in 4.8.1.x branch. 4.8.1-stable and master branches have more and more differences, and patch backporting from master to stable and vice versa becomes more and more hardly. We try make stability in master as much as possible. -- Andrew ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
stable vs. latest
Last Debian, Fedora *buntu releases had 4.8.x. Current Gentoo is 4.8.7. Mageia 3 is about to be released with 4.8.7. So, why does the stable/4.8.1.x branch even exist? -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: stable vs. latest
Strictly IMHO (I'm not a developer, just a casual contributor): I've also wondered about this... MC follows the standard model of two concurrent branches (devel containing new and riskier changes, vs. stable for obvious bugfixes but no big changes or new features; where every once in a while the devel branch is stablized to the new stable and a new devel is branched out). It's only the numbering that's a bit unusual (not the standard x.even.y = stable, x.odd.y = devel, but something more complicated), but it's clearly noted on the homepage which version is stable and which is devel. So I guess this is a very good question, but I'm afraid MC developers are not the right people to answer this. I think you should ask distributions why they choose the devel version, it's their decision (their fault if you wish). I think we'd all be eager to hear their reasons. egmont On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: Last Debian, Fedora *buntu releases had 4.8.x. Current Gentoo is 4.8.7. Mageia 3 is about to be released with 4.8.7. So, why does the stable/4.8.1.x branch even exist? -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ __**_ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/mc-develhttps://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
Re: stable vs. latest
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:19:11 -0500 Felix Miata wrote: Last Debian, Fedora *buntu releases had 4.8.x. Current Gentoo is 4.8.7. Mageia 3 is about to be released with 4.8.7. So, why does the stable/4.8.1.x branch even exist? There is no stable branch anymore. 4.8.1.7 was the last release in 4.8.1.x branch. 4.8.1-stable and master branches have more and more differences, and patch backporting from master to stable and vice versa becomes more and more hardly. We try make stability in master as much as possible. -- Andrew ___ mc-devel mailing list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc-devel
