Re: CMS

2005-05-27 Thread amacdonald
The one thing to keep in mind when choosing
a CMS (or for that matter whether you actually need one) is whether you
want to manage the content for your site or manage the content on your
site The difference is subtle but important. The first thing
you should decide is whether you even need a CMS. How many pages
on your site need changing on a regular basis? If 95% of your pages
are static (i.e. never change) then you do not need a CMS to control the
content on the site - but you may need one to control the content of your
site. A CMS is great when you have a large number of people all contributing
to the content of the site, but if everything goes through your web department
before it goes live - what are you using a CMS for? 

If you need to integrate (as you stated
in your message) disparate systems and databases - a CMS may not be the
best solution. In my opinion any vendor of a CMS that comes in a tells
you that their system can solve all your content integration problems -
doesn't know your problems.

A CMS can be costly and so complicated
that no one wants to use it. When it comes down to it, many times
hiring someone with knowledge of the web will save you headaches and money.
A person who knows how to program and can find their way around web technologies
will be able to show you far easier ways to control and integrate content
than a prepackaged CMS will ever do for you at this time.

Andrew Macdonald
New Media Officer / Agent des nouveaux médias
Canada Aviation Museum / Musée de l'aviation du Canada
Phone / Téléphone : (613) 998-5689
Fax / Télécopie : (613) 990-3655
Website: www.aviation.technomuses.ca
Email: amacdon...@technomuses.ca





Will Scott
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05/26/2005 04:50 PM



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Does anyone on the list have expertise in
this area of content management systems for the distribution of museum
collections information, or has anyone contracted a CMS vendor for major,
long-term museum Web- or intranet-access projects? I would be interested
to know more about your experiences and about how you are using the CMS,
especially for integration of various museum databases. If replying off-line,
please send messages to willscottconsult...@yahoo.com.

Many thanks in advance,

Will

Will Scott
Museum Database Freelancer
Assistant Registrar, The Museum at FIT
willscottconsult...@yahoo.com
(917)753-1274

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Re: CMS

2005-05-27 Thread Douglas MacKenzie

At 10:24 27/05/05 -0400, Andrew Macdonald wrote:

A CMS can be costly and so complicated that no one wants to use it.  When 
it comes down to it, many times hiring someone with knowledge of the web 
will save you headaches and money.


There's a lot of truth in that. A CMS really comes into its own when you 
want it do more than run one website. The one we used on the TAMH project - 
managed the website, a local touchscreen application and a CD-ROM for 
school use. It also output images and generated whatever flavour of XML had 
to go with them at the time for other projects' use. There are some papers 
on it at http://www.tamh.org/tamh/papers/index.php (they are rather out of 
date as we've spent more time in recent years implementing the strategy 
than talking about it) Would never have occurred to me (having no money) to 
go out and buy an off-the-shelf solution. Ours was built in-house over time 
and versions of it work with museum sites and commercial applications such 
as a holiday booking system and a real estate database where vendors add 
and edit their own property details. The level of difficulty in 
implementing something like this depends largely on where you start. It's a 
lot easier if you begin with an existing database (even one in a horrible 
proprietary Collections Management System) which you can export elsewhere 
and re-fit with link tables, SQL and scripting. Everything we have done in 
this area has been built around LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP) which 
has the great attraction of being free.


The Clearances site www.theclearances.org is built on a CMS which manages 
everything including things like passenger list output in XML and 
proprietary formats. We have also developed an exhibition tool, a CMS which 
sits on top of a CMS allowing quick generation of temporary exhibitions 
combining existing assets with whatever new material curators wish to add. 
This may never see the light of day as a commercial product but it 
certainly proves the ease with which different databases and media types 
can be combined and managed.


Douglas

The Highland Clearances
http://www.theclearances.org



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Re: CMS

2005-05-27 Thread J. Trant

Those considering CMS applications might find the following interesting:

Jeffrey Veen,  Making A Better CMS, November 15, 2004
http://www.adaptivepath.com/publications/essays/archives/000365.php

 and

Why Content Management Fails, April 1, 2004
http://www.adaptivepath.com/publications/essays/archives/000315.php

which reminds me of

http://OpenSourceCMS.com a cool site where you can try out 
installations of  free and open source CMS software.


jt

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Re: CMS

2005-05-27 Thread Bruce Wyman

Those considering CMS applications might find the following interesting:


and might also be interested in http://www.cmsmatrix.org/ which 
lets you compare and contrast the feature sets of about 350 different 
commercial and open-source CMSs.


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Re: CMS

2005-05-26 Thread dfp
Hi Will

My name is Darren Peacock, I run an information and technology management
consultancy in Australia- Sweet Technology- specialising in the museum field
and in content management systems in particular.  I have a range of experience
in planning and implementing CMS in a museum environment.  For the last three
years I have conducted a workshop on content management in museums at the
annual Museums and the Web conference.  This year I will also be running a
version of the workshop at the MCN conference.

I would be happy to discuss further with you.

regards

Darren Peacock

Sweet Technology

+61 400 500 689


Quoting Will Scott william_sc...@fitnyc.edu:

 Does anyone on the list have expertise in this area of content
 management systems for the distribution of museum collections
 information, or has anyone contracted a CMS vendor for major, long-term
 museum Web- or intranet-access projects? I would be interested to know
 more about your experiences and about how you are using the CMS,
 especially for integration of various museum databases. If replying
 off-line, please send messages to willscottconsult...@yahoo.com.
  
 Many thanks in advance,
  
 Will
  
 Will Scott
 Museum Database Freelancer
 Assistant Registrar, The Museum at FIT
 willscottconsult...@yahoo.com
 (917)753-1274
  
 
 
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