Re: MD: deep optical question

2001-01-25 Thread Ken Clinger


This situation of digital audio information running thru equipment has me
curious.

I master albums of my own music to MD (all the editing options lets me
continually change my mind about things), and then make CD copies, running
the MD digital out first thru my old Pioneer CD recorder, and from there
thru my newer Philips CD recorder. I'm assuming I'm able to do this since
the first CD recorder doesn't register as "a copy" as far as SCMS goes.
Could there theoretically be an endless chain of digital recorders all
copying at the same time? Is the digital signal "the same signal" all the
way thru, or is it continually being changed as it passes thru each
recorder?



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MD: Analogue copy of CDR

2001-01-25 Thread Clinton, Martin


Hi everyone,
My Dad is going to borrow a 'Music' CD-R of a Bing Crosby album, which he
wants to copy onto MD using his MXD-D3. Now if I've got this right, the
original was a CD, copied onto 'music' CD-R on a Traxdata home hi-fi deck.
Therefore the CD-R will have SCMS on it to prevent another digital copy? If
so, he'll need to do an analogue copyif this is the case, will the
analogue copy have track marks etc. or will my Dad need to do this himself
afterwards?
Thanks for any help
Martin

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RE: MD: deep optical question

2001-01-25 Thread Tony Antoniou


Putting it simply, no. The reason for this is because the digital out spits
out exactly the same information as what comes into the MD's input simply
because it is put through to the digital out directly without any looping
through the unit's ADC/DAC circuits. It is unprocessed/untouched.


Adios,
LarZ

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  If I pass the optical OUT of a DAT through the optical IN of a Sony

 MDS-JE630,
 then I take the optical OUT of the Sony to another device by simply
 pressing
 the record button of the Sony with no disc inside, is the
 passed-through
 input signal one that has been ATRAC'd and de-ATRAC'd, or has it
 been left
 untouched?

 I didn't think that you could get an MD recorder to go into the
 record mode unless there is a disc in it.


 Larry


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Re: MD: Analogue copy of CDR

2001-01-25 Thread Matthew Bullis


Well, the track marks appear only if:
you have synchro record on
and if there are at least two seconds between the tracks. However, the sound
has to drastically drop out for two clear seconds, because track marks do
not appear when I record lp's to md.
Matthew

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Re: MD: digital daisy chains (was deep optical question)

2001-01-25 Thread David W. Tamkin


Ken Clinger asked,

| I master albums of my own music to MD (all the editing options lets me
| continually change my mind about things), and then make CD copies, running
| the MD digital out first thru my old Pioneer CD recorder, and from there
| thru my newer Philips CD recorder. I'm assuming I'm able to do this since
| the first CD recorder doesn't register as "a copy" as far as SCMS goes.

Right; the continuing S/PDIF signal down the chain keeps the same SCMS
setting as the source.

| Could there theoretically be an endless chain of digital recorders all
| copying at the same time?

Yes.  OK, it couldn't be literally endless because you'd never finish setting
it up and get to start recording, but it could be of indefinite length.

| Is the digital signal "the same signal" all the way thru, or is it
| continually being changed as it passes thru each recorder?

That's what nobody knows for sure, and it's equivalent to the question with
which Crazylips started this thread.  Probably the audio is unchanged, but
there can be some changes to the subcode, depending on what the individual
machines in the chain do.

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Re: MD: Analogue copy of CDR

2001-01-25 Thread Stainless Steel Rat


* "Clinton, Martin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  on Thu, 25 Jan 2001
| Therefore the CD-R will have SCMS on it to prevent another digital copy?

Correct.

| If so, he'll need to do an analogue copy

Or use an SCSM stripper.

| if this is the case, will the analogue copy have track marks etc. or will
| my Dad need to do this himself afterwards?  Thanks for any help Martin

Depends on how you set up the recorder.  Most have the option of setting a
track mark whenever there is a 2 second silence.  Check the manual for the
recorder for specific details.
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Re: MD: Analogue copy of CDR

2001-01-25 Thread David W. Tamkin


[reply posted only to MD-L and not to MDUK]

Martin Clinton asked,

| My Dad is going to borrow a 'Music' CD-R of a Bing Crosby album, which he
| wants to copy onto MD using his MXD-D3. Now if I've got this right, the
| original was a CD, copied onto 'music' CD-R on a Traxdata home hi-fi deck.

| Therefore the CD-R will have SCMS on it to prevent another digital copy?

Of course it will have SCMS on it; the question is how the SCMS bits will be
set, and that depends on some additional factors.

First, perhaps the dubbing from the original CD to the CDR was an analog
transfer.  If that's the case, the CDR's tracks would be SCMS-penultimate,
and SCMS would allow digital copying from the CDR to an MD.

Second, Martin said "if I've got this right," so I take it he isn't positive
that the CDR was written on a standalone CD recorder (which would obey SCMS.)
If it was burned on a computer, its SCMS setting would be whatever the burn-
ing software decided or let the user select; the CDR tracks could be SCMS-
unlimited, in which case there should be no further interference from SCMS.

The only way to know for sure is to try copying it digitally and seeing if
SCMS stops you.

Now, I don't know what the MXD-D3 does if you tell it to make a 4x copy of
SCMS-final CD tracks to MD.  Does it fall back to analog on its own?  Does it
refuse to record?  A look through the manual on the MDCP doesn't seem to say.

| If so, he'll need to do an analogue copyif this is the case, will the
| analogue copy have track marks etc. or will my Dad need to do this himself
| afterwards?

My guess is that it will get tracks marked.  The manual says nothing to the
contrary, and I know that on my MDS-W1, when the MD SYNC function encounters
SCMS-final source tracks and falls back to analog, the track marks are still
made on the copy and the track titles are still duplicated.

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MD: TDK Minidisc Sale $1.20 Each

2001-01-25 Thread Art Munson


Hi Folks,

We are having a sale on TDK minidiscs.
 
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MD: Panasonic MDLP recorder.

2001-01-25 Thread Matt L


Does anyone know if panasonic is going to release an MDLP portable recorder?
If so, when is it due out?

Matt
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Re: MD: Panasonic MDLP recorder.

2001-01-25 Thread Leon


Hello,

Panasonic hasn't released anything that has MDLP modes - the only Japanese
MD equipment maker to have no MDLP in their products.

Based on past schedules, the current model (MR200)'s product life cycle
would be ending some time in mid-2001. If an MDLP-compatible recorder is to
be released, I'd imagine that's when.

Leon

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 Does anyone know if panasonic is going to release an MDLP portable recorder?
 If so, when is it due out?
 
 Matt
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