Re: MD: Minidisc questions (was no subject)

2000-01-11 Thread PrinceGaz


From: "Richard Wright" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi Basil,
 Sorry, but I have a couple of more questions. what is a TOSLINK =
 connecter/transmitter or reciever?  What do they do?  Do i need one of =
 these TOSLINK connectors if I have a sound card that has a RCA digital =
 output?  Do I need a sound card with didigtal outputs to record =
 digtitally? Also, How can I get my mini disc to play in a car that only =
 has a CD player?  Is there a way that I can connect my mini disc player =
 to a CD player, and make the music work?  Please explain as I am new to =
 the MIni DIsc World.  Thank You.  Basil Fakhry.

 Q: Do I need a sound card with digital outputs to record digitally?
 A: Well, yes. If you want to record digitally off your PC anyway. If you
 just want to record CDs digitally, get yourself a CD player with an
 optical output (eg. Technics 390/490/590 or Yamaha 493. In fact most
 CD-players seem to have them these days).

Richard, are you sure the Technics SL-PG390 has a digital-out?  I know
the 490 and 590 do [I recommended the 590 to my father as a good starter
unit to use with the Sony MD JE520].  I would swear the Richer Sounds mag
[a UK cheap hifi chain] said the Tehnics 390 as having no digi-out.  Course
they could easily have been wrong so don't hold me to that!

 P.S. UK is 230V +/-5% @ 50Hz - so is the rest of Europe and that's the way
 it's staying. My multimeter says it's actually 238V at the moment, but
 that's within the +/-5% tolerance. NOWHERE is moving UP to 250V - that
 could cause problems with a lot of appliances which are only rated to work
 at 240V, especially things with heating elements in...that's another topic
 altogether - probably on alt.electrical.mains.voltages or something :-)

I agree Wrighty, my meter varies between about 222 and 244VAC here in
England (Northern Electric district).  It's accuracy is +/- 1.5% and 5 digits
which translates to +/- 10V in the worst case.  At present its high, up around
238-242VAC -- am I correct in thinking the suppliers elecricity meters
measure current not power so a higher voltage means more power per
unit charge measured?

On the subject of electric meters, can highly reactive loads (either inductive
or capacitave) fool a meter about how much power is being supplied and
is this the reason for a clause in the supply agreement, or is it just because
its annoying for the electricity supplier?

Cheers,
PrinceGaz -- "if it harms none, do what you will"

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Re: MD: Minidisc questions (was no subject)

2000-01-11 Thread Richard Wright



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At 15:28 11/01/00 +, you wrote:

From: "Richard Wright" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Hi Basil,
  Sorry, but I have a couple of more questions. what is a TOSLINK =
  connecter/transmitter or reciever?  What do they do?  Do i need one of =
  these TOSLINK connectors if I have a sound card that has a RCA digital =
  output?  Do I need a sound card with didigtal outputs to record =
  digtitally? Also, How can I get my mini disc to play in a car that only =
  has a CD player?  Is there a way that I can connect my mini disc player =
  to a CD player, and make the music work?  Please explain as I am new to =
  the MIni DIsc World.  Thank You.  Basil Fakhry.
 
  Q: Do I need a sound card with digital outputs to record digitally?
  A: Well, yes. If you want to record digitally off your PC anyway. If you
  just want to record CDs digitally, get yourself a CD player with an
  optical output (eg. Technics 390/490/590 or Yamaha 493. In fact most
  CD-players seem to have them these days).

Richard, are you sure the Technics SL-PG390 has a digital-out?  I know
the 490 and 590 do [I recommended the 590 to my father as a good starter
unit to use with the Sony MD JE520].  I would swear the Richer Sounds mag
[a UK cheap hifi chain] said the Tehnics 390 as having no digi-out.  Course
they could easily have been wrong so don't hold me to that!

Yeah, I was in Plymouth yesterday and in the Technics Centre, they had the 
390, 490 and 590, all of which said "OPTICAL DIGITAL OUTPUT" on the front. 
Going by this, I am pretty sure the 390 has an optical digital output. 
Richer Sounds do get these things wrong sometimes - they say the Yamaha 393 
doesn't have one but the Yamaha website says it does - haven't verified 
this yet...

  P.S. UK is 230V +/-5% @ 50Hz - so is the rest of Europe and that's the way
  it's staying. My multimeter says it's actually 238V at the moment, but
  that's within the +/-5% tolerance. NOWHERE is moving UP to 250V - that
  could cause problems with a lot of appliances which are only rated to work
  at 240V, especially things with heating elements in...that's another topic
  altogether - probably on alt.electrical.mains.voltages or something :-)

I agree Wrighty, my meter varies between about 222 and 244VAC here in
England (Northern Electric district).  It's accuracy is +/- 1.5% and 5 digits
which translates to +/- 10V in the worst case.  At present its high, up around
238-242VAC -- am I correct in thinking the suppliers elecricity meters
measure current not power so a higher voltage means more power per
unit charge measured?

I'm not sure about the exact workings of the suppliers electricity meters, 
so I can't answer that one I'm afraid.

On the subject of electric meters, can highly reactive loads (either inductive
or capacitave) fool a meter about how much power is being supplied and
is this the reason for a clause in the supply agreement, or is it just because
its annoying for the electricity supplier?

Again, not totally sure. I know a very reactive load can cause problems 
with things like generators - not sure how they affect electricity meters.

Cheers,
PrinceGaz -- "if it harms none, do what you will"

Cheers,

Wrighty
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RE: MD: Minidisc questions (was no subject)

2000-01-11 Thread Simon Gardner


 Richard, are you sure the Technics SL-PG390 has a digital-out?  I know
 the 490 and 590 do [I recommended the 590 to my father as a good starter
 unit to use with the Sony MD JE520].  I would swear the Richer Sounds mag
 [a UK cheap hifi chain] said the Tehnics 390 as having no
 digi-out.  Course
 they could easily have been wrong so don't hold me to that!

The 390 does have an optical out. A move up to the 490 gives you a
headphone socket and remote control though.

Simon

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Re: MD: Minidisc questions (was no subject)

2000-01-10 Thread Richard Wright


Hi Basil,

At 23:35 07/01/00 +0300, you wrote:

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Sorry, but I have a couple of more questions. what is a TOSLINK =
connecter/transmitter or reciever?  What do they do?  Do i need one of =
these TOSLINK connectors if I have a sound card that has a RCA digital =
output?  Do I need a sound card with didigtal outputs to record =
digtitally? Also, How can I get my mini disc to play in a car that only =
has a CD player?  Is there a way that I can connect my mini disc player =
to a CD player, and make the music work?  Please explain as I am new to =
the MIni DIsc World.  Thank You.  Basil Fakhry.

Okay, a few questions there! This may be useful to some other people who 
are new, so I may as well answer them fully! Let's take them one at a time:

Q: What is a TOSLink transmitter/receiver connector?
A: This is basically an IC (chip) consisting of an LED (transmitter)
or a photodiode (receiver) and a driver, housed in a plastic casing
which accepts the TOSLink plugs which you find on the end of optical
cables. There are 3 pins sticking out of the bottom which you wire
up to +5V  0V (power) and the third is the TTL digital input/output
which takes the same format as S/PDIF (co-axial/RCA) except for the
fact that it works on 0V/5V (standard TTL digital levels) instead of
about +/- 500mV (S/PDIF).

Q: What do they do?
A: They convert from electrical to optical (transmitter) or optical to
electrical (receiver), depending on what's required.

Q: Do I need one of these TOSLink connectors if I have a sound card
that has an RCA digital output?
A: Yes you do if you want to connect to something which only has an
optical input (like an MD portable). You will also need a driver
circuit to convert the S/PDIF signal (+/- 500mV) to a TTL digital
signal (0V/5V). There are boxes around (about 35 to 50 UK pounds)
which will do this - I strongly suggest you buy one of these if you
aren't electronically minded and have never touched a soldering iron!
You could do a lot of damage to several things if you're not careful.

Q: Do I need a sound card with digital outputs to record digitally?
A: Well, yes. If you want to record digitally off your PC anyway. If you
just want to record CDs digitally, get yourself a CD player with an
optical output (eg. Technics 390/490/590 or Yamaha 493. In fact most
CD-players seem to have them these days).

Q: How can I get my MD to play in a car that only has a CD player? Is
there a way that I can connect my mini disc player to a CD player,
and make the music work?
A: Hmm...don't think you can. You can get adaptors which let you connect
anything with a line output to a tape machine in a car stereo - these
have an ordinary tape head mounted inside an empty tape casing, which
just converts the line output from your MD (or whatever) into a
magnetic field, which the head in the tape machine picks up, just like
reading an ordinary tape. This isn't possible (for obvious reasons, I
hope!!) with a CD player. The only way to do it would be if your
car CD player has an extra line input on the back somewhere, but I
wouldn't go fiddling if you're not sure what you're doing :-)

Hope this answers your questions :-)

Cheers,

Wrighty

P.S. UK is 230V +/-5% @ 50Hz - so is the rest of Europe and that's the way 
it's staying. My multimeter says it's actually 238V at the moment, but 
that's within the +/-5% tolerance. NOWHERE is moving UP to 250V - that 
could cause problems with a lot of appliances which are only rated to work 
at 240V, especially things with heating elements in...that's another topic 
altogether - probably on alt.electrical.mains.voltages or something :-)

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