Re: MD: Question for Don

2001-02-16 Thread las


Mike Burger wrote:

 In other words, you really can't take the cost factor into consideration for
 your personal debate, and then decry the same factor in the overall debate.


What  Surely the above statement has no meaning in reality.

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Re: MD: Question for Don

2001-02-16 Thread Don Capps


From: "Mike Burger" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 In other words, you really can't take the cost factor into consideration
for your personal debate, and then decry the same factor in the overall
debate.

Mike...I think the use of the word "doesn't" was a typo and he meant to say
that such extra costs should be factored in. At least I think so anyway. I
gave him the benefit of that doubt. :-)

Don C.

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Re: MD: Question for Don

2001-02-16 Thread Michael Burger


Why is that?

You don't feel that a person who took the cost factor into account in
his own deliberation should not allow that same cost factor for
others?

On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:54:28 -0500, las wrote:


Mike Burger wrote:

 In other words, you really can't take the cost factor into consideration for
 your personal debate, and then decry the same factor in the overall debate.


What  Surely the above statement has no meaning in reality.

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Re: MD: Question for Don

2001-02-16 Thread Michael Burger



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I considered that, but chose to challenge it, instead, in hopes that
he would either see the error in logic or note the typo. shrug 
Haven't heard, either way.

On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:34:12 -0800, Don Capps wrote:


From: "Mike Burger" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 In other words, you really can't take the cost factor into consideration
for your personal debate, and then decry the same factor in the overall
debate.

Mike...I think the use of the word "doesn't" was a typo and he meant to say
that such extra costs should be factored in. At least I think so anyway. I
gave him the benefit of that doubt. :-)

Don C.

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Re: MD: Question for Don

2001-02-16 Thread Mike Burger


James Jarvie [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Also, just to weigh in on the previous debate.  Yes, I
 have a computer.  No, I cannot burn CDs (older
 computer not fast enough - can't afford / justify the
 cost to get a new one).   Still, I think if we are
 going to debate this issue, that it must be granted
 that anyone considering using MP3s has the neccessary
 gear, and that it shouldn't be factored into the cost equation.

I'm going to have to disagree, here.  By your own statement, above, you have 
obviously considered using MP3s, but have already factored cost into the 
equation.  To wit, you yourself say "older computer not fast enough - can't 
afford/justify the cost to get a new one".  And in an earlier paragraph, you 
note that you also can't justify the cost of the Expanium kit.

In other words, you really can't take the cost factor into consideration for 
your personal debate, and then decry the same factor in the overall debate.

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MD: Question for Don

2001-02-16 Thread James Jarvie


 Here's where we part company. You would never now
 the difference between my
 Expanium playing MP3 files and my Expanium playing
 the original CD. I
 guarantee it. Inferior sound quality? Nope. Not at
 all. But then, don't
 believe me. Just burn a CD full of MP3s and borrow
 an Expanium...maybe a
 Circuit City store demo model...and listen for
 yourself.
 
 Don C.



I have three questions for you Don, and please don't
take this as any sort of criticism or sarcasm, because
it's not meant that way (though it may sound it).  

1. It's apparent that you are very fond of MP3s and
your Expanium (of which I never heard until you
weighed in on this list).  My question is: do you do
minidiscs at all?  I assume you must because you're on
this list.  I can't, however, remember you talking
about using MDs personally (though you seem to know
enough about them to suggest that either you do or you
have used them).  If you have mentioned using MDs
personally and I missed it,them I apologize.  

2. If you are using MDs as well as your Expanium, then
my second question is: do you find that you have uses
for both, or do has the Expanium taken the place of
MDs for you

3.  Have you listened to any classical music on either
(especially orchestral stuff, though it's more common
to find chamber music than orchestral on MP3s).

I have to admit that your description of the Expanium
intrigues mebut I can't afford more kit right now.
 
Also, just to weigh in on the previous debate.  Yes, I
have a computer.  No, I cannot burn CDs (older
computer not fast enough - can't afford / justify the
cost to get a new one).   Still, I think if we are
going to debate this issue, that it must be granted
that anyone considering using MP3s has the neccessary
gear, and that it shouldn't be factored into the cost equation.

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Re: MD: Question for Don

2001-02-16 Thread Don Capps


From: "James Jarvie" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I have three questions for you Don, and please don't take this as any sort
of criticism or sarcasm, because
it's not meant that way (though it may sound it).

No problem James. But thanks for the qualifiers.

 1. It's apparent that you are very fond of MP3s and your Expanium (of
which I never heard until you weighed in on this list).  My question is: do
you do minidiscs at all?  I assume you must because you're on this list.  I
can't, however, remember you talking about using MDs personally (though you
seem to know enough about them to suggest that either you do or you have
used them). If you have mentioned using MDs personally and I missed it,them
I apologize.

Absolutely no apologies necessary. The answer is yes. I own a Sharp MD-SR60
but I use it for one VERY specific purpose and that is for the recording of
live music. In fact, I use it so extensively that I am considering the
purchase of one of the "pro" recorders (either the HHB or the Marantz)
because they include so many features of interest to the pro recordist (XLR
inputs, high headroom mic preamp, built in limiter, digital inputs AND
outputs, and so on).

 2. If you are using MDs as well as your Expanium, then my second question
is: do you find that you have uses
for both, or do has the Expanium taken the place of MDs for you.

Yes, as I hope the above comments made obvious. I use the MD recorder almost
exclusive for live recording. And I use the Expanium for portable personal
audio (CD and mp3 playback).

 3.  Have you listened to any classical music on either (especially
orchestral stuff, though it's more common
to find chamber music than orchestral on MP3s).

Yes. And I have recorded a bit of classical music as well. Some has turned
out well and some...well...ahem.

 I have to admit that your description of the Expanium intrigues mebut
I can't afford more kit right now.

That's ok. Save your duckies for the second generation CD/mp3 playback units
that are just hitting the market now. The Rio Volt and the TDK Mojo are
gonna be KILLER players (with id3 tag support and some other nifty features)
and will cost significantly less.

 Also, just to weigh in on the previous debate.  Yes, I have a computer.
No, I cannot burn CDs (older
computer not fast enough - can't afford / justify the cost to get a new
one). Still, I think if we are going to debate this issue, that it must be
granted that anyone considering using MP3s has the neccessary gear, and that
it shouldn't be factored into the cost equation.

Oh, I agree with that James. I just enjoy playing the Devil's Advocate.  :-)

Don C.

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