[MDaemon-L] 421 4.7.0 Too many messages

2016-01-24 Terurut Topik Ronald Santo
> -Original Message-
> From: MDaemon-L@dutaint.com [mailto:MDaemon-L@dutaint.com] On Behalf Of 
> Syafril Hermansyah
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 15:42
> To: Milis Komunitas MDaemon Indonesia
> Subject: [MDaemon-L] 421 4.7.0 Too many messages

> On 22/01/16 14:31, Ronald Santo wrote:
>> Belakangan ini kami sering mendapati notifikasi kegagalan pengiriman
>> (421 4.7.0 Too many messages) seperti terlampir tapi khusus pada 
>> spesifik satu domain ini saja, mohon pencerahannya apakah ada 
>> konfigurasi tambahan yang harus kami lakukan?


>> Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: <-- 421 4.7.0 Too many messages.

> Ini firewall receiver sibuk.

> Tidak bisa di apa-2x di sisi Anda, tetapi kalau kenal pengelola atau 
> recipient user minta mereka untuk restart firewallnya.

Thank you pak atas pencerahannya.

Warm Regards,
Ronald Santo
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[MDaemon-L] 421 4.7.0 Too many messages

2016-01-21 Terurut Topik Ronald Santo
Dear Pak Syafril,
 
Belakangan ini kami sering mendapati notifikasi kegagalan pengiriman (421 4.7.0 
Too many messages) seperti terlampir tapi khusus pada spesifik satu domain ini 
saja, mohon pencerahannya apakah ada konfigurasi tambahan yang harus kami 
lakukan?
 
--- Session Transcript ---
Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: Session 174542; child 0002  Thu 2016-01-21
18:38:49: Parsing message 
Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: *  From: helpdesk_bnil...@rds.co.id  Thu
2016-01-21 18:38:49: *  To: lisa.meil...@bni-life.co.id  Thu 2016-01-21
18:38:49: *  Subject: Polis Error  Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: *  Size (bytes):
2719030  Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: *  Message-ID:
<007e01d15433$03540bc0$09fc2340$@co.id>
Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: *  Route slip host: bni-life.co.id  Thu 2016-01-21
18:38:49: *  Route slip port: 25  Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: Attempting SMTP 
connection to [bni-life.co.id]  Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: Resolving MX records 
for [bni-life.co.id] (DNS Server: 8.8.8.8)...
Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: *  P=010 S=000 D=bni-life.co.id TTL=(63) 
MX=[mail.bni-life.co.id]  Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: Attempting SMTP connection 
to [mail.bni-life.co.id:25]  Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: Resolving A record for 
[mail.bni-life.co.id] (DNS Server: 8.8.8.8)...
Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: *  D=mail.bni-life.co.id TTL=(102) A=[103.63.233.2]  
Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: Attempting SMTP connection to [103.63.233.2:25]  Thu 
2016-01-21 18:38:49: Waiting for socket connection...
Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: *  Connection established (192.168.168.5:54194 ->
103.63.233.2:25)  Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: Waiting for protocol to start...
Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: <-- 421 4.7.0 Too many messages.
Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: --> QUIT
Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: Socket connection closed by the other side (how
rude!)  Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: This message is 96 minutes old; it has 0 
minutes left in this queue  Thu 2016-01-21 18:38:49: Remote queue lifetime 
exceeded; message placed in retry queue
--- End Transcript ---
 
 
Thank you.
 
Warm Regards,
Ronald Santo
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[MDaemon-L] Connection timed out!

2013-05-30 Terurut Topik Ronald Santo
> -Original Message-
> From: MDaemon-L@dutaint.com [mailto:MDaemon-L@dutaint.com] On
> Behalf Of Syafril Hermansyah
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 15:05
> To: Milis Komunitas MDaemon Indonesia
> Subject: [MDaemon-L] Connection timed out!
> 
> On 05/30/2013 02:30 PM, Ronald Santo wrote:
> > Mohon maaf atas kesalahan sebelumnya, berikut terlampir log
> > original-nya. Kondisinya connection timeout hanya untuk koneksi dengan
> > domain hsbc.co.id / hsbc.com.hk saja
> 
> Kedua domain itu hosting di server yang sama.
> 
> $ host hsbc.co.id
> hsbc.co.id has address 203.112.92.110
> hsbc.co.id mail is handled by 10 smtp1.hsbc.com.hk.
> hsbc.co.id mail is handled by 10 smtp2.hsbc.com.hk.
> 
> $ host hsbc.com.hk
> hsbc.com.hk has address 203.112.92.104
> hsbc.com.hk mail is handled by 10 smtp2.hsbc.com.hk
> 
> > Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: --> 354 Enter mail, end with .
> > Thu 2013-05-30 08:02:05: Connection timed out!
> 
> Ini problem koneksi internet.
> Laporkan saja ke ISP Anda untuk di check.
> 
> Minggu lalu server saya juga ada masalah terima mail smtpX.hsbc.com.hk dan
> server-2x yang networknya pakai att.com (misalkan sebagian server
> messagelabs.com, slb.com dll), tetapi kalau kirim mail kesana tidak masalah.
> Saya sudah lapor ke Telkom (ISP yang kami gunakan), dan ternyata tidak ada
> masalah di networknya telkom (karena kirim mail tidak masalah), akhirnya
> Telkom memeriksa jalur (path) koneksi dari smtp2.hsbc.com.hk ke server
> kami yang berada di bawah tanggung jawab Telkom Indonesia International
> (Telin) dan baru beres setelah TelIn melakukan perbaikan.
> 
> Saya sih tidak dikasih problem persisnya, dugaan saya masalah di salah router
> yang menghubungkan Hong Kong dengan Singapore sehingga PMTUD (Path
> Maximum Transfer Unit) tidak berjalan semestinya.
> 
> Kalau Anda kenal dengan pengelola server hsbc.com.hk bisa minta dia kirim
> data hasil trace route dari server mereka ke server Anda, data ini akan
> bermanfaat untuk ISP Anda melakukan crosscheck.
> 
> 
Ok Pak, saya akan minta hasil traceroute dari mail server mereka. Terima kasih 
atas pencerahannya :)

Warm Regards,
Ronald Santo


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[MDaemon-L] Connection timed out!

2013-05-30 Terurut Topik Ronald Santo
> -Original Message-
> From: MDaemon-L@dutaint.com [mailto:MDaemon-L@dutaint.com] On
> Behalf Of Syafril Hermansyah
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:45
> To: Milis Komunitas MDaemon Indonesia
> Subject: [MDaemon-L] Connection timed out!
> 
> On 05/30/2013 12:21 PM, Ronald Santo wrote:
> > Kita juga mengalami kendala connection timeout, tapi hanya ke 1 e-mail
> > domain ini saja. Mohon pencerahannya Pak.
> 
> Kita itu siapa?
> 
> http://bahasa.kompasiana.com/2012/08/24/kita-telah-meminggirkan-kami-
> 488388.html
> 
> > Thu 2013-05-30 08:00:14: -- Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: Session
> > 61268; child 1 Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: Accepting SMTP connection from
> > [203.112.84.14:59884] to [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:25]
> 
> Jangan diotak-atik lognya.
> Saya malas menganilisis log yang sudah diotak-atik, banyak terjadi salah arah.
> 

Pak Syafril, 

Mohon maaf atas kesalahan sebelumnya, berikut terlampir log original-nya. 
Kondisinya connection timeout hanya untuk koneksi dengan domain hsbc.co.id / 
hsbc.com.hk saja. Mohon pencerahannya.

Thu 2013-05-30 08:00:14: --
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: Session 61268; child 1
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: Accepting SMTP connection from [203.112.84.14:59884] 
to [192.168.168.5:25]
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 220 rds.co.id ESMTP MDaemon 13.0.4; Thu, 30 May 
2013 07:58:53 +0700
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: <-- EHLO hsbc.com.hk
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250-rds.co.id Hello hsbc.com.hk, pleased to meet 
you
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250-ETRN
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250-8BITMIME
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250-STARTTLS
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250 SIZE 1024
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: <-- STARTTLS
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 220 Begin TLS negotiation
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: SSL negotiation successful (TLS 1.0, 1024 bit key 
exchange, 128 bit RC4 encryption)
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: <-- EHLO hsbc.com.hk
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250-rds.co.id Hello hsbc.com.hk, pleased to meet 
you
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250-ETRN
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250-8BITMIME
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250 SIZE 1024
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: <-- MAIL FROM: size=127741
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: Performing PTR lookup (14.84.112.203.IN-ADDR.ARPA)
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: *  D=14.84.112.203.in-addr.arpa TTL=(60) 
PTR=[csmtp4.hsbc.com.hk]
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: *  Gathering A records...
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  D=csmtp4.hsbc.com.hk TTL=(15) A=[203.112.84.14]
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54:  End PTR results
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: Performing IP lookup (hsbc.com.hk)
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  D=hsbc.com.hk TTL=(15) A=[203.112.92.104]
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54:  End IP lookup results
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: Performing IP lookup (hsbc.co.id)
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  D=hsbc.co.id TTL=(15) A=[203.112.92.110]
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  P=010 S=000 D=hsbc.co.id TTL=(15) 
MX=[smtp2.hsbc.com.hk]
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  P=010 S=001 D=hsbc.co.id TTL=(15) 
MX=[smtp1.hsbc.com.hk]
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  D=hsbc.co.id TTL=(15) A=[203.112.92.110]
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  D=hsbc.co.id TTL=(15) A=[203.112.92.110]
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54:  End IP lookup results
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: Performing SPF lookup (hsbc.co.id / 203.112.84.14)
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  Policy: v=spf1 ip4:203.112.80.0/20 
ip4:193.108.72.62 ip4:91.214.7.40 ~all
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  Evaluating ip4:203.112.80.0/20: match
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  Result: pass
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54:  End SPF results
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: --> 250 , Sender ok
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: <-- RCPT TO:
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: --> 250 , Recipient ok
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: <-- DATA
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: Creating temp file (SMTP): 
c:\mdaemon\queues\temp\md5038624.tmp
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: --> 354 Enter mail, end with .
Thu 2013-05-30 08:02:05: Connection timed out!
Thu 2013-05-30 08:02:05: SMTP session terminated (Bytes in/out: 490/1318)

Thank you.

Warm Regards,
Ronald Santo

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[MDaemon-L] Connection timed out!

2013-05-29 Terurut Topik Ronald Santo
> > Apakah tarpitting ini hanya pengaruh pada email dari luar?
> 
> Ya.
> 
> > Idealnya angka utk tarpit threshold berapa ya Pak? dan juga untuk
> > delay-nya?
> 
> Saya tidak tahu persisnya karena tidak saya pakai di MDaemon saya dari dulu,
> maaf. [1]
> 
> > Apakah email yang sudah terkena tarpit ini masih bisa diambil dan saya
> > kirim manual ke user yg belum terima?
> 
> Tidak bisa, karena sender belum sempat kirim mail DATA sudah keburu time
> out.
> 
> Umumnya sender host yang pakai koneksi lease line (atau semacamnya)
> tidak masalah dengan tarpit (atau HELO delay), hanya dynamic IP user
> (umumnya spammer pakai koneksi dynamic IP) yang diharapkan bermasalah
> dengan Tarpit dan HELO delay.
> Akan tetapi kalau ada legitimate sender yang setting tcp/ip nya buruk bisa
> saja bermasalah jika kena tarpit, dalam hal ini Anda bisa masukkan sender IP
> kedalam tarpit whitelist.
> 
> [1] Dynamic IP sender host umumnya akan di tolak oleh Sender Host checker
> di MDaemon, jadi kalau sudah mengaktifkan sender host check menurut
> saya tidak perlu lagi diaktifan tarpit, helo delay ataupun greylist, hal itu
> merupakan tindakan berlebihan (mirip dengan pakai antivirus atau firewall
> berlapis-lapis) :-)
> 

Pak Syafril,

Kita juga mengalami kendala connection timeout, tapi hanya ke 1 e-mail domain 
ini saja. Mohon pencerahannya Pak.

Thu 2013-05-30 08:00:14: --
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: Session 61268; child 1
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: Accepting SMTP connection from [203.112.84.14:59884] 
to [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:25]
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 220 rds.co.id ESMTP MDaemon 13.0.4; Thu, 30 May 
2013 07:58:53 +0700
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: <-- EHLO hsbc.com.hk
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250-rds.co.id Hello hsbc.com.hk, pleased to meet 
you
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250-ETRN
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250-8BITMIME
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250-STARTTLS
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250 SIZE 1024
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: <-- STARTTLS
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 220 Begin TLS negotiation
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: SSL negotiation successful (TLS 1.0, 1024 bit key 
exchange, 128 bit RC4 encryption)
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: <-- EHLO hsbc.com.hk
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250-rds.co.id Hello hsbc.com.hk, pleased to meet 
you
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250-ETRN
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250-8BITMIME
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: --> 250 SIZE 1024
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: <-- MAIL FROM: size=127741
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: Performing PTR lookup (14.84.112.203.IN-ADDR.ARPA)
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: *  D=14.84.112.203.in-addr.arpa TTL=(60) 
PTR=[csmtp4.hsbc.com.hk]
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:53: *  Gathering A records...
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  D=csmtp4.hsbc.com.hk TTL=(15) A=[203.112.84.14]
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54:  End PTR results
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: Performing IP lookup (hsbc.com.hk)
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  D=hsbc.com.hk TTL=(15) A=[203.112.92.104]
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54:  End IP lookup results
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: Performing IP lookup (hsbc.co.id)
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  D=hsbc.co.id TTL=(15) A=[203.112.92.110]
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  P=010 S=000 D=hsbc.co.id TTL=(15) 
MX=[smtp2.hsbc.com.hk]
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  P=010 S=001 D=hsbc.co.id TTL=(15) 
MX=[smtp1.hsbc.com.hk]
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  D=hsbc.co.id TTL=(15) A=[203.112.92.110]
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  D=hsbc.co.id TTL=(15) A=[203.112.92.110]
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54:  End IP lookup results
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: Performing SPF lookup (hsbc.co.id / 203.112.84.14)
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  Policy: v=spf1 ip4:203.112.80.0/20 
ip4:193.108.72.62 ip4:91.214.7.40 ~all
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  Evaluating ip4:203.112.80.0/20: match
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: *  Result: pass
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54:  End SPF results
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: --> 250 , Sender ok
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: <-- RCPT TO:
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: --> 250 , Recipient ok
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: <-- DATA
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: Creating temp file (SMTP): 
c:\...\queues\temp\md5038624.tmp
Thu 2013-05-30 07:58:54: --> 354 Enter mail, end with .
Thu 2013-05-30 08:02:05: Connection timed out!
Thu 2013-05-30 08:02:05: SMTP session terminated (Bytes in/out: 490/1318)

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