[Mdaemon-L] MDaemon Security Gateway 10.0.1 - Dynamic Screening

2024-06-27 Terurut Topik Syafril Hermansyah via Mdaemon-L

On 6/27/24 12:55, Agi Subagio via Mdaemon-L wrote:
Sudah 2 jam lebih saya aktifkan dynamic screening dengan opsi berikut 
dan domain mail server belum ada yg terblok. Apakah Pak Syafril punya 
saran lain mengenai seting Dynamic Screening yang lebih efektif jika 
nantinya bug di bagian exclusions sudah teratasi?



Kalau menurut saya dynamic screening di SG tidak terlalu bermanfaat, 
karena itulah DS baru ada di SG di versi 10.x.
Dynamic Screening lebih bermanfaat untuk office server (server dimana 
ada/terdaftar user database dan menyimpan user mailbox).


SG hampir tidak bisa digunakan sebagai relay server dari luar/internet, 
khususnya di server mx.bms.co.id karena relay SG di set berbasis IP 
(private IP) bukan SMTPAuthentication.




https://help.mdaemon.com/SecurityGateway/en/dynamic_screening.html

Using the Dynamic Screening feature, SecurityGateway can track the 
behavior of sending servers to identify suspicious activity and then 
respond accordingly. For example, with Dynamic Screening you can ban an 
IP address from future connections to your server once a specified 
number of "unknown recipient" errors occur during a mail session with 
that IP address. You can ban senders that connect to your server more 
than a specified number of times in a specified number of minutes, and 
you can also ban senders that fail authentication attempts more than a 
designated number of times. However, a Dynamic Screening ban is not 
permanent. The IP address is banned only for the number of minutes that 
you specify on this page, and each IP address and the amount of time 
that has passed since its ban is listed in the Blocked IP List at the 
bottom of the page.



bandingkan dengan

http://mdaemon.dutaint.co.id/mdaemon/24.0.0/dynamic-screening_options.html

Using Dynamic Screening, MDaemon can track the behavior of incoming 
connections to identify suspicious activity and then respond 
accordingly. You can block an IP address (or range of addresses) from 
connecting when it fails authentication a specified number times within 
a specified amount of time. You can also freeze the accounts attempting 
to authenticate when they fail too many times too quickly. Also, when an 
IP address is blocked or an account is frozen, it is not permanent. The 
connecting IP address will be blocked for the number of minutes, hours, 
or days that you specify, and frozen accounts can be "thawed" 
automatically after a specified amount of time, or manually by the admin.

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[Mdaemon-L] MDaemon Security Gateway 10.0.1 - Dynamic Screening

2024-06-26 Terurut Topik Agi Subagio via Mdaemon-L

On 27/06/2024 10:06, Syafril Hermansyah via Mdaemon-L wrote:

On 6/27/24 08:09, Agi Subagio via Mdaemon-L wrote:
SecurityGateway sudah saya update ke 10.0.2 dan Dynamic Screening 
tetap memblok domain mail server atau allowlist (IP/hostname) karena 
Too many RSET.


SG 10.0.2 memang belm memperbaiki bug itu.
Mungkin di versi berikutnya.

https://files.mdaemon.com/securitygateway/release/relnotes_en.HTM

SecurityGateway 10.0.2 - June 25, 2024
FIXES

    [27858] fix to certain links in the "Dark Mode" theme are 
difficult to read due to poor contrast.

    [27873] fix to Sieve script fails to extract/log certain variables.
    [27874] fix to From Header Screening does not function.
    [27879] fix to when sending a message from the Delivery Queue the 
entire message is read into memory from disk when only the headers 
need to be.
    [27882] fix to crash when searching a particular HTML message for 
keywords.




Sudah 2 jam lebih saya aktifkan dynamic screening dengan opsi berikut 
dan domain mail server belum ada yg terblok. Apakah Pak Syafril punya 
saran lain mengenai seting Dynamic Screening yang lebih efektif jika 
nantinya bug di bagian exclusions sudah teratasi?


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[Mdaemon-L] MDaemon Security Gateway 10.0.1 - Dynamic Screening

2024-06-26 Terurut Topik Syafril Hermansyah via Mdaemon-L

On 6/27/24 08:09, Agi Subagio via Mdaemon-L wrote:
SecurityGateway sudah saya update ke 10.0.2 dan Dynamic Screening tetap 
memblok domain mail server atau allowlist (IP/hostname) karena Too many 
RSET.


SG 10.0.2 memang belm memperbaiki bug itu.
Mungkin di versi berikutnya.

https://files.mdaemon.com/securitygateway/release/relnotes_en.HTM

SecurityGateway 10.0.2 - June 25, 2024
FIXES

[27858] fix to certain links in the "Dark Mode" theme are difficult 
to read due to poor contrast.

[27873] fix to Sieve script fails to extract/log certain variables.
[27874] fix to From Header Screening does not function.
[27879] fix to when sending a message from the Delivery Queue the 
entire message is read into memory from disk when only the headers need 
to be.
[27882] fix to crash when searching a particular HTML message for 
keywords.



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[Mdaemon-L] MDaemon Security Gateway 10.0.1 - Dynamic Screening

2024-06-26 Terurut Topik Agi Subagio via Mdaemon-L




Ini bug, karena sender IP [172.16.50.16] masuk dalam allowlist global.
Saya akan laporkan ke MDaemon Security Gateway Developer.


Untuk sementara coba masukkan host backend server [mbs.co.id] kedalam 
allowlists_hosts atau disable "Ban IPs that send this many RSET command.


https://help.mdaemon.com/SecurityGateway/en/allowlists_hosts.html

https://help.mdaemon.com/SecurityGateway/en/dynamic_screening.html

SecurityGateway sudah saya update ke 10.0.2 dan Dynamic Screening tetap 
memblok domain mail server atau allowlist (IP/hostname) karena Too many 
RSET.


Thu 2024-06-27 08:02:33: --> 250 Ok, message saved
Thu 2024-06-27 08:02:33: <-- RSET
Thu 2024-06-27 08:02:33:  ALERT  Sender has reached RSET dynamic 
screening threshold

Thu 2024-06-27 08:02:33: --> 421 Too many RSET commands
Thu 2024-06-27 08:02:33:  ALERT  Connection from 172.16.50.16 
refused by dynamic screening; 604800 second(s) remain
Thu 2024-06-27 08:02:33: SMTP session successful (Bytes in/out: 
7603658/6010)


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[Mdaemon-L] MDaemon Security Gateway 10.0.1 - Dynamic Screening

2024-06-23 Terurut Topik Agi Subagio via Mdaemon-L

On 21/06/2024 13:43, Syafril Hermansyah via Mdaemon-L wrote:

On 6/21/24 09:36, Agi Subagio via Mdaemon-L wrote:

Carikan transaksi banned nya di Inbound Log.


inbound log ada di attachment - truncate


Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:09:  ALERT  Sender has reached RSET 
dynamic screening threshold



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:09: --> 421 Too many RSET commands


Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:09:  ALERT  Connection from 172.16.50.16 
refused by dynamic screening; 604800 second(s) remain




Ini benar dynamic screening yang memblock.

Blocking terjadi akibat adanya mail loop antara SG dengan office 
(backend) server.



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: --> 250 <>, Sender ok



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: <-- RCPT TO:


Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: User  is not 
local


Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: == Processing RCPT scripts for 
recipient: b2b.notificat...@am.b2b.com.my



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: -- Executing: Blocklist --



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: -- Executing: Tarpitting --



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: -- Executing: Relaying Denied --



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: -- Executing: Invalid Recipient --



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: -- Executing: Validate Local Sender --



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: -- Executing: DNS Blocklists (Client IP) --



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: -- Executing: SPF --



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: -- Executing: Callback Verification --


Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: --> 250 , 
Recipient ok



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: <-- DATA



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: --> 354 Enter mail, end with .


Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: NULL return path, parsing message headers 
for sender address



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: Sender = mailer-dae...@mbs.co.id



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: Found DISABLED user



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: User is disabled: 



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: Message size: 3789 bytes



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: Message-ID: 





Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: Accepting SMTP connection from [172.16.50.16 
: 41020] on port 25


Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: # Sender is a local domain mail server (MBS 
Mail Server)



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: # Sender is on allowlist (IP global : 173878)


Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: --> 250-mx.mbs.co.id Hello mbs.co.id, 
pleased to meet you





Ini bug, karena sender IP [172.16.50.16] masuk dalam allowlist global.
Saya akan laporkan ke MDaemon Security Gateway Developer.


Untuk sementara coba masukkan host backend server [mbs.co.id] kedalam 
allowlists_hosts atau disable "Ban IPs that send this many RSET command.


https://help.mdaemon.com/SecurityGateway/en/allowlists_hosts.html

https://help.mdaemon.com/SecurityGateway/en/dynamic_screening.html

Itu kenapa mailer-dae...@mbs.co.id statusnya bisa disable?
Akun MAILER-DAEMON@ (<>, Null Reverse Path) umum dipakai sebagai 
system account untuk meresponse autoresponder, Return-Receive 
Confirmation dls.

Coba diubah statusnya dari userlist menjadi enable/normal.

https://help.mdaemon.com/SecurityGateway/en/user_list.html



Untuk sementara Dynamic Screeninng saya matikan dulu karena bug 
tersebut. Sebelumnya sempat diaktifkan dengan menonaktifkan "Ban IPs 
that send this many RSET", tetapi domain mail server tetap ke banned 
walaupun opsi exclude sudah diaktifkan dan IP/host sudah didaftarkan ke 
dalam IP Allowlist.


Ada beberapa email akun yang sengaja tidak diaktifkan di SG dg tujuan 
agar tidak bisa menerima email dari luar. Alamat email tsb hanya utk 
keperluan internal sesama domain mail server.




Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: -- Executing: Invalid Sender --
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: -- Executing: IP Shield --
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: -- Executing: MAIL DNS Lookup --
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: -- Executing: SMTP Authentication Required --
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: --> 250 <>, Sender ok
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: <-- RCPT TO:
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: Found DISABLED user
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: User is disabled: 
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: == Processing RCPT scripts for 
recipient: mbsctr...@mbs.co.id

Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: -- Executing: Blocklist --
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: -- Executing: Tarpitting --
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: -- Executing: Relaying Denied --
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: -- Executing: Invalid Recipient --
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: ** Reject 550 , Recipient 
unknown

Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: --> 550 , Recipient unknown
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: <-- RSET
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: --> 250 RSET?  Well, OK.
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: <-- RSET
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: --> 250 RSET?  Well, OK.
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: <-- MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=4885
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: == Processing MAIL scripts
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: -- Executing: Invalid Sender --
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: -- Executing: IP Shield --
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: -- Executing: MAIL DNS Lookup --
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: -- Executing: SMTP Authentication Required --
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: --> 250 <>, Sender ok
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: <-- RCPT TO:
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: Found DISABLED user
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: User is disabled: 
Sat 2024-06-22 06:00:03: == Process

[Mdaemon-L] MDaemon Security Gateway 10.0.1 - Dynamic Screening

2024-06-20 Terurut Topik Syafril Hermansyah via Mdaemon-L

On 6/21/24 09:36, Agi Subagio via Mdaemon-L wrote:

Carikan transaksi banned nya di Inbound Log.


inbound log ada di attachment - truncate




Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:09:  ALERT  Sender has reached RSET dynamic 
screening threshold



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:09: --> 421 Too many RSET commands



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:09:  ALERT  Connection from 172.16.50.16 refused 
by dynamic screening; 604800 second(s) remain




Ini benar dynamic screening yang memblock.

Blocking terjadi akibat adanya mail loop antara SG dengan office 
(backend) server.



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: --> 250 <>, Sender ok



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: <-- RCPT TO:



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: User  is not local



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: == Processing RCPT scripts for recipient: 
b2b.notificat...@am.b2b.com.my



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: -- Executing: Blocklist --



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: -- Executing: Tarpitting --



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: -- Executing: Relaying Denied --



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: -- Executing: Invalid Recipient --



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: -- Executing: Validate Local Sender --



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: -- Executing: DNS Blocklists (Client IP) --



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: -- Executing: SPF --



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: -- Executing: Callback Verification --



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: --> 250 , Recipient ok



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: <-- DATA



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: --> 354 Enter mail, end with .



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: NULL return path, parsing message headers for sender 
address



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: Sender = mailer-dae...@mbs.co.id



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: Found DISABLED user



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: User is disabled: 



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: Message size: 3789 bytes



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: Message-ID: 






Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: Accepting SMTP connection from [172.16.50.16 : 41020] 
on port 25



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: # Sender is a local domain mail server (MBS Mail 
Server)



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: # Sender is on allowlist (IP global : 173878)



Wed 2024-06-19 18:14:08: --> 250-mx.mbs.co.id Hello mbs.co.id, pleased to meet 
you





Ini bug, karena sender IP [172.16.50.16] masuk dalam allowlist global.
Saya akan laporkan ke MDaemon Security Gateway Developer.


Untuk sementara coba masukkan host backend server [mbs.co.id] kedalam 
allowlists_hosts atau disable "Ban IPs that send this many RSET command.


https://help.mdaemon.com/SecurityGateway/en/allowlists_hosts.html

https://help.mdaemon.com/SecurityGateway/en/dynamic_screening.html

Itu kenapa mailer-dae...@mbs.co.id statusnya bisa disable?
Akun MAILER-DAEMON@ (<>, Null Reverse Path) umum dipakai sebagai system 
account untuk meresponse autoresponder, Return-Receive Confirmation dls.

Coba diubah statusnya dari userlist menjadi enable/normal.

https://help.mdaemon.com/SecurityGateway/en/user_list.html


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[Mdaemon-L] MDaemon Security Gateway 10.0.1 - Dynamic Screening

2024-06-20 Terurut Topik Syafril Hermansyah via Mdaemon-L

On 6/20/24 15:36, Agi Subagio via Mdaemon-L wrote:

Tidak, versi 10.0.2 hanya ada perbaikkan untuk From Header Screening.


SecurityGateway terakhir adalah versi 10.0.1 - June 11, 2024
https://files.mdaemon.com/securitygateway/release/relnotes_en.HTM



SG 10.0.2 masih berstatus Beta.


Ini bukan dynamic screening, melainkan IP blocklist.
Dynamic screening ada waktu (durasi) banned, untuk SG lamanya 10 menit (MDaemon 
standardnya 24 jam).


Gambar yg saya kirimkan adalah IP allowlist dan domain mail server yang 
seharusnya di-exclude oleh Dynamic Screening, tetapi malah tetap kena banned. 
Salah satunya server email dengan IP 172.16.50.16



Carikan transaksi banned nya di Inbound Log.


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[Mdaemon-L] MDaemon Security Gateway 10.0.1 - Dynamic Screening

2024-06-19 Terurut Topik Syafril Hermansyah via Mdaemon-L

On 6/20/24 10:33, Agi Subagio via Mdaemon-L wrote:
Saya pengguna Mdaemon Security Gateway versi terakhir 10.0.1 mengalami 
kendala pada fungsi Dynamic Screening.
Beberapa IP email server di intenal (subnet 172.16.0.0/16) yang mengirim 
email melalui Security Gateway ini di-banned padahal sudah masuk dalam 
allowlisted IP dan sebagai domain mail server. Apakah di versi ini ada 
bug karena di versi sebelumnya tidak pernah kejadian?



Tidak, versi 10.0.2 hanya ada perbaikkan untuk From Header Screening.


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Ini bukan dynamic screening, melainkan IP blocklist.
Dynamic screening ada waktu (durasi) banned, untuk SG lamanya 10 menit 
(MDaemon standardnya 24 jam).


https://help.mdaemon.com/SecurityGateway/en/dynamic_screening.html

https://help.mdaemon.com/SecurityGateway/en/blocklists_ips.html


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