Re: [Meego-handset] Dialer Project meeting minutes for Tuesday 4/5

2011-04-06 Thread Shane Bryan
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 12:49:39 +
 wrote:

> Thank you for the minutes,
> 
> >* sabotage to discuss project goals and meeting combination with essi
> 
> I believe the targets between the 2 projects are quite compatible.
> 
> a) The Project/Dialer aims to provide the reference application to
> demonstrate the basic call capabilities. b) The N900/DE/VoiceSMS
> wants to improve the Dialer & SMS applications, so that they are
> usable on N900.
> 
> Some differences:
> 
> - b) covers the SMS application
> - b) places more focus on the usability/performance especially on N900

Not necessarily true that "more" focus exists, it's just publicly
discussed and you don't get to see all the "dirty laundry" of the churn
I get to see from our UX and Program management teams ;)

> However, I don't see a) & b) mutually exclusive. I'm assuming that
> both teams have many bugs/challenges in common.

Agreed.

> If it's OK for Shane and others, I propose that the DE members
> participate in the Shane's IRC meeting on the 12th April [1]. Shane
> can articulate the target, the DE members can ask questions. We will
> then agree on how to go forward.

Absolutely!  I definitely want to work together.  There are far to
many features and bugs to do this all myself.  Been "screaming" that
for a while now.

I do want to give credit to folks like Arun, Kalle, Jouni,
Antoine, Sami and Vladimir for their contributions, all from the
community (not Intel).  Without their assistance, I'd be toast!

I especially want to give props to Arun Ravindran, who not only sends
me patches regularly, but also took initiative to start triaging and
commenting on Dialer bugs... all quite well, and all without my asking
or expecting it.  Thanks Arun!

> 
> [1] http://wiki.meego.com/Project/Dialer/Meetings
> 
> I assume the time is "Every Tuesday 14:00 UTC"?
> 

Actually, the correct time is "Every Tuesday at 15:00 UTC".  Sorry that
I managed to provide the incorrect time on some of the wiki pages. It
did cause a bit of "fun" during our first meeting ;)

Shane...
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Re: [Meego-handset] Dialer Project meeting minutes for Tuesday 4/5

2011-04-06 Thread Makoto.Sugano
Thank you for the minutes,

>* sabotage to discuss project goals and meeting combination with essi

I believe the targets between the 2 projects are quite compatible.

a) The Project/Dialer aims to provide the reference application to demonstrate 
the basic call capabilities.
b) The N900/DE/VoiceSMS wants to improve the Dialer & SMS applications, so that 
they are usable on N900.

Some differences:

- b) covers the SMS application
- b) places more focus on the usability/performance especially on N900

However, I don't see a) & b) mutually exclusive. I'm assuming that both teams 
have many bugs/challenges in common.

If it's OK for Shane and others, I propose that the DE members participate in 
the Shane's IRC meeting on the 12th April [1]. Shane can articulate the target, 
the DE members can ask questions. We will then agree on how to go forward.

All the best,   Makoto

[1] http://wiki.meego.com/Project/Dialer/Meetings

I assume the time is "Every Tuesday 14:00 UTC"?


>-Original Message-
>From: meego-handset-boun...@lists.meego.com [mailto:meego-handset-
>boun...@lists.meego.com] On Behalf Of ext Shane Bryan
>Sent: 05 April, 2011 19:09
>To: meego-handset; meego-dev
>Subject: [Meego-handset] Dialer Project meeting minutes for Tuesday 4/5
>
>==
>#meego-meeting: Dialer Project meeting
>==
>
>Meeting started by sabotage at 15:00:05 UTC.
>
>Online minutes:
>http://trac.tspre.org/meetbot/meego-meeting/2011/meego-meeting.2011-04-
>05-15.00.html
>Full IRC meeting log:
>http://trac.tspre.org/meetbot/meego-meeting/2011/meego-meeting.2011-04-
>05-15.00.log.html
>
>
>Meeting summary
>---
>* Meeting info at http://wiki.meego.com/Project/Dialer/Meetings
>  (sabotage, 15:00:46)
>* sabotage is author maintainer of meego-handset-dialer  (sabotage,
>  15:01:58)
>* crevetor is Antoine Reversat, helping hand, wants to work on the QML
>  version of the dialer  (sabotage, 15:02:06)
>* introductions  (sabotage, 15:02:38)
>  * More about who's who in the project is at
>http://wiki.meego.com/Project/Dialer/Meetings#Preface  (sabotage,
>15:04:17)
>  * aruravi part of N900 hardware adaptation and DE Voice/SMS team
>(sabotage, 15:04:26)
>  * jukkaeklund, N900 DE product manager and very interested in the
>topic :)  (sabotage, 15:05:17)
>  * essi is the Team lead for VoiceSMS project on the N900 Developer
>Edition  (sabotage, 15:06:43)
>  * zolkis: I am architect for RTCom in Harmattan, including a dialer
>too, so naturally interested on the MeeGo dialer  (sabotage,
>15:07:33)
>  * kallam has provided a bunck of Resource Policy Manager additions to
>Dialer  (sabotage, 15:08:40)
>  * kallam: Kalle Lampila member of N900 hardware adatation team
>(sabotage, 15:08:56)
>
>* Two Meetings (Dialer and VoiceSMS)  (sabotage, 15:09:17)
>  * GCF == Global Certification Forum  (sabotage, 15:18:53)
>  * LINK:
>
>http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/WebSite/public/home_public.aspx
>(sabotage, 15:18:56)
>  * ACTION: sabotage to discuss project goals and meeting combination
>with essi  (sabotage, 15:19:26)
>  * AGREED:   (sabotage, 15:19:34)
>
>* Wire frames  (sabotage, 15:21:12)
>  * Dialer wireframes to be released any day now  (sabotage, 15:30:50)
>  * ACTION: sabotage to find out more detail and make it available ASAP
>(sabotage, 15:31:12)
>
>* bugs and features  (sabotage, 15:32:20)
>  * LINK:
>https://bugs.meego.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&field0-0-
>0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-
>0=MeeGo_N900DE_Release_Blocker%2B&component=Dialer&product=Handset%20Use
>r%20Experience&classification=MeeGo%20Platform
>(sabotage, 15:34:05)
>  * Dialer history is not changing right now until the tracker vs. EDS
>issues have settled out  (sabotage, 15:42:46)
>
>* Bug owner volunteers  (sabotage, 15:46:19)
>  * LINK: Open dialer bugs
>
>https://bugs.meego.com/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=Open%20Dial
>er%20Bugs
>(sabotage, 15:48:09)
>  * LINK: Open dialer bugs http://wiki.meego.com/Project/Dialer#Bugs
>(sabotage, 15:49:38)
>  * LINK: Open dialer bugs alternate link  (sabotage, 15:50:28)
>  * LINK:
>
>https://bugs.meego.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCO
>NFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_statu
>s=WAITING%20FOR%20UPSTREAM&bug_status=REOPENED&columnlist=bug_severity%2
>Cpriority%2Cassigned_to%2Ccomponent%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_de
>sc&component=Dialer&classification=MeeGo%20Platform&known_name=Open%20Di
>aler%20Bugs&query_based_on=O

[Meego-handset] Dialer Project meeting minutes for Tuesday 4/5

2011-04-05 Thread Shane Bryan
==
#meego-meeting: Dialer Project meeting
==

Meeting started by sabotage at 15:00:05 UTC.

Online minutes:
http://trac.tspre.org/meetbot/meego-meeting/2011/meego-meeting.2011-04-05-15.00.html
Full IRC meeting log:
http://trac.tspre.org/meetbot/meego-meeting/2011/meego-meeting.2011-04-05-15.00.log.html


Meeting summary
---
* Meeting info at http://wiki.meego.com/Project/Dialer/Meetings
  (sabotage, 15:00:46)
* sabotage is author maintainer of meego-handset-dialer  (sabotage,
  15:01:58)
* crevetor is Antoine Reversat, helping hand, wants to work on the QML
  version of the dialer  (sabotage, 15:02:06)
* introductions  (sabotage, 15:02:38)
  * More about who's who in the project is at
http://wiki.meego.com/Project/Dialer/Meetings#Preface  (sabotage,
15:04:17)
  * aruravi part of N900 hardware adaptation and DE Voice/SMS team
(sabotage, 15:04:26)
  * jukkaeklund, N900 DE product manager and very interested in the
topic :)  (sabotage, 15:05:17)
  * essi is the Team lead for VoiceSMS project on the N900 Developer
Edition  (sabotage, 15:06:43)
  * zolkis: I am architect for RTCom in Harmattan, including a dialer
too, so naturally interested on the MeeGo dialer  (sabotage,
15:07:33)
  * kallam has provided a bunck of Resource Policy Manager additions to
Dialer  (sabotage, 15:08:40)
  * kallam: Kalle Lampila member of N900 hardware adatation team
(sabotage, 15:08:56)

* Two Meetings (Dialer and VoiceSMS)  (sabotage, 15:09:17)
  * GCF == Global Certification Forum  (sabotage, 15:18:53)
  * LINK:
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/WebSite/public/home_public.aspx
(sabotage, 15:18:56)
  * ACTION: sabotage to discuss project goals and meeting combination
with essi  (sabotage, 15:19:26)
  * AGREED:   (sabotage, 15:19:34)

* Wire frames  (sabotage, 15:21:12)
  * Dialer wireframes to be released any day now  (sabotage, 15:30:50)
  * ACTION: sabotage to find out more detail and make it available ASAP
(sabotage, 15:31:12)

* bugs and features  (sabotage, 15:32:20)
  * LINK:

https://bugs.meego.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=MeeGo_N900DE_Release_Blocker%2B&component=Dialer&product=Handset%20User%20Experience&classification=MeeGo%20Platform
(sabotage, 15:34:05)
  * Dialer history is not changing right now until the tracker vs. EDS
issues have settled out  (sabotage, 15:42:46)

* Bug owner volunteers  (sabotage, 15:46:19)
  * LINK: Open dialer bugs

https://bugs.meego.com/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=Open%20Dialer%20Bugs
(sabotage, 15:48:09)
  * LINK: Open dialer bugs http://wiki.meego.com/Project/Dialer#Bugs
(sabotage, 15:49:38)
  * LINK: Open dialer bugs alternate link  (sabotage, 15:50:28)
  * LINK:

https://bugs.meego.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=WAITING%20FOR%20UPSTREAM&bug_status=REOPENED&columnlist=bug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cassigned_to%2Ccomponent%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc&component=Dialer&classification=MeeGo%20Platform&known_name=Open%20Dialer%20Bugs&query_based_on=Open%20Diale
(sabotage, 15:50:30)
  * LINK:(sabotage, 15:50:42)
  * LINK:

https://bugs.meego.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=WAITING%20FOR%20UPSTREAM&bug_status=REOPENED&columnlist=bug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cassigned_to%2Ccomponent%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc&component=Dialer&classification=MeeGo%20Platform&known_name=Open%20Dialer%20Bugs&query_based_on=Open%20Diale
(sabotage, 15:50:44)
  * ACTION: anyone who wants to own a bug, please set the assigned to to
yourself  (sabotage, 15:53:14)

* Headless Dialer  (sabotage, 15:53:54)
  * assuming highlander and aruravi agree that it's working, and I can
test it successfully, I want to move headless branch to master ASAP
(sabotage, 15:56:35)

* QML dialer  (sabotage, 15:57:09)
  * ACTION: alterego please provide URL to your QML dialer source
(sabotage, 16:00:16)
  * LINK: http://gitorious.org/qml-meego-dialer   (alterego, 16:00:31)
  * sabotage set up a Wiki page to start tracking this
http://wiki.meego.com/Project/Dialer/QMLMigration  (sabotage,
16:00:51)
  * LINK: http://wiki.meego.com/Project/Dialer/QMLMigration   (sabotage,
16:00:54)

Meeting ended at 16:01:12 UTC.




Action Items

* sabotage to discuss project goals and meeting combination with essi
* sabotage to find out more details [wireframe release] and make it 
  available ASAP
* anyone who wants to own a bug, please set the assigned to to yourself
* alterego please provide URL to your QML dialer source




Action Items, by person
---
* alterego
  * alterego please provide URL to your QML dialer source
* sabotage
  * sabotage t