Re: [Meep-discuss] why the energy spectrum radiated by a point source doesn't match with the spectrum of source itself?

2014-04-24 Thread Steven G. Johnson

On Apr 22, 2014, at 10:01 AM, Ehsan Saei e.s...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I simulated a point source which is located in free-space (air ) and tried to 
 compute the power radiated by the source and travels through a cubic that 
 surrounds the source. After plotting the data I have noticed that the power 
 has a frequency center different from that I have used for the source.

Regardless of whether you use an exact gaussian source or not, the radiated 
power spectrum is never the same as the power spectrum of the source (except in 
1d vacuum), because it gets multiplied by the local density of states (which in 
3d goes as frequency squared).

This has nothing to do with Meep, it is an intrinsic fact of wave equations.   
See:


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Re: [Meep-discuss] why the energy spectrum radiated by a point source doesn't match with the spectrum of source itself?

2014-04-22 Thread Filip Dominec
May it be attributed to that the radiated field is a derivative of the
current, so that high-frequency components are enhanced compared to
the lower frequency ones? Or is it a more complicated deviation?
Regards,
Filip

2014-04-22 16:01 GMT+02:00, Ehsan Saei e.s...@hotmail.com:
 Dear Steven and MEEP users,

 I simulated a point source which is located in free-space (air ) and tried
 to compute the power radiated by the source and travels through a cubic that
 surrounds the source. After plotting the data I have noticed that the power
 has a frequency center different from that I have used for the source.
 Any idea about this behavior?

 Thanks in advance,
 Ehsan


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Re: [Meep-discuss] why the energy spectrum radiated by a point source doesn't match with the spectrum of source itself?

2014-04-22 Thread Filip Dominec
This appears exactly as the result of the said effect.
The good point is that the gaussian source shape is reasonably
preserved upon differentiation, so you may pre-compensate it by
fcen=0.40.
Or, if you have tighter requirements on the source, you may use the
newly implemented feature of band-source (), which guarantees flat
spectrum and suppressed spectral leakage. Its advantages are a
tradeoff with a much longer source duration. You would also have to
compile the fresh version of MEEP from github.
Filip


2014-04-22 16:17 GMT+02:00, Ehsan Saei e.s...@hotmail.com:
 I've just used fcen=0.45 for source but the power has a frequency center at
 0.5.  Is there any solution for this behavior?

 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:08:12 +0200
 Subject: Re: [Meep-discuss] why the energy spectrum radiated by a point
 source doesn't match with the spectrum of source itself?
 From: filip.domi...@gmail.com
 To: e.s...@hotmail.com; meep-discuss@ab-initio.mit.edu

 May it be attributed to that the radiated field is a derivative of the
 current, so that high-frequency components are enhanced compared to
 the lower frequency ones? Or is it a more complicated deviation?
 Regards,
 Filip

 2014-04-22 16:01 GMT+02:00, Ehsan Saei e.s...@hotmail.com:
  Dear Steven and MEEP users,
 
  I simulated a point source which is located in free-space (air ) and
  tried
  to compute the power radiated by the source and travels through a cubic
  that
  surrounds the source. After plotting the data I have noticed that the
  power
  has a frequency center different from that I have used for the source.
  Any idea about this behavior?
 
  Thanks in advance,
  Ehsan
 


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Re: [Meep-discuss] why the energy spectrum radiated by a point source doesn't match with the spectrum of source itself?

2014-04-22 Thread Mischa Megens
On 4/22/2014 4:08 PM, Filip Dominec wrote:
 May it be attributed to that the radiated field is a derivative of the
 current, so that high-frequency components are enhanced compared to
 the lower frequency ones? Or is it a more complicated deviation?
 Regards,
 Filip
and furthermore, the radiated power is proportional to the fourth power
of frequency times the square of the dipole moment, see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipole_radiation#Dipole_radiation
So it is expected that the spectrum of the radiated power will be skewed
compared with the spectrum of the source.

Best,
Mischa

 2014-04-22 16:01 GMT+02:00, Ehsan Saei e.s...@hotmail.com:
 Dear Steven and MEEP users,

 I simulated a point source which is located in free-space (air ) and tried
 to compute the power radiated by the source and travels through a cubic that
 surrounds the source. After plotting the data I have noticed that the power
 has a frequency center different from that I have used for the source.
 Any idea about this behavior?

 Thanks in advance,
 Ehsan

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