[MBZ] LT Don's new? car?
Don, here's a cheap gas winter beater http://www.gulseth.net/Doncar/index.html -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
Biodiesel has more oxygen in it than petro diesel. BioD has about 20% less energy (depends on the base stock) than PetroD. Blends from B20-B70 will usually see more fuel efficiency than pure PetroD or B100 due to the more complete combustion of the fuel blend. Higher than B70 will usually see less fuel economy. Luther On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:37:10 -0600, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that bioDiesel has a little less energy per gallon than dino. Is the performance improvement due to cleaning? On Dec 15, 2007 8:01 PM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is not uncommon to identify a marked improvement when running on a biodiesel or biodiesel mix. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GRRRRR!
Will this also check how much current draw the starter is taking?? Luther On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:21:00 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now it gets dim and the battery cables get warm (after several tries at this I should say) but nothing but the solenoid click. It usually takes two people, but you should take a voltmeter and connect it between the center post (not the cable clamp) of the battery + and the starter motor's center post (not the cable or the nut) and have somebody hit the starter. You don't want to see very much voltage at all. Repeat the test with the battery - post and the body of the starter. Ditto. Any significant voltage means you have a wiring problem. A volt is too much. Half a volt is probably too much. You combine these results with the battery voltage itself (measured between the posts) under the same conditions. It shouldn't drop too much, if it goes to 10V it's bad. (Or at least not charged.) -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
Tim, my 300CD is nearing 10kmi on BioD. I've not seen a clogged filter yet (subject line action). My only problem has been injector return lines getting soft enough that one came loose causing a snail trail at work. Previous to BioD, my fuel guage liked to imitate windshield wipersnow it's rock solid and accurate. Luther On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:56:06 -0600, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, One repair was made last wee, because of a clogged vent the tank had imploded even to the point of crushing the fuel sending unit. A new tank wasn't feasible but for 1/3 the cost a tank was pulled which had actually been running bio. While in the process, that tank was pressure cleaned and I had fuel lines replaced (with intent maybe of using bio anyway). Yep, it's all clean! It cost me $60. just to see that fuel gauge register full. Prior to that I had about 8ga. capacity in tank and couldn't figure why I kept running out of fuel. I'm so proud of the nice clean fuel system that I might just keep bio in this vehicle. The other 300Ds I have still have the old fuel lines but I'm tempted to give them an occasional tank of bio and watch the filters. As far as my original intention of building a reactor and converting my supply of veggie oil? I'm actually turning that into soap as I've got a market. My 'indie friend likes the lye soap and I keep him in a supply. It's actually great to cut grease. (Anyone wanna try some msg me and I'll send ya a bar. That's not a sales pitch, just a friendly offer of gift! - die Laugeseife (the lye soap)). Tim -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GRRRRR!
yes, Ohms = Volts / Amps, Amps = Volts/Ohms, Volts = Ohms/Amps You need to measure the resistance of the cable, then measure the voltage difference from the same points when current is flowing. -Dave Walton On Dec 16, 2007 6:08 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will this also check how much current draw the starter is taking?? Luther On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:21:00 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now it gets dim and the battery cables get warm (after several tries at this I should say) but nothing but the solenoid click. It usually takes two people, but you should take a voltmeter and connect it between the center post (not the cable clamp) of the battery + and the starter motor's center post (not the cable or the nut) and have somebody hit the starter. You don't want to see very much voltage at all. Repeat the test with the battery - post and the body of the starter. Ditto. Any significant voltage means you have a wiring problem. A volt is too much. Half a volt is probably too much. You combine these results with the battery voltage itself (measured between the posts) under the same conditions. It shouldn't drop too much, if it goes to 10V it's bad. (Or at least not charged.) -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LT Don's new? car?
Ya know, there's a fully restored King Midget for sale up here in the great lakes region. That would be just the ticket for his short commute. When they refurbed it they stuck in a modern OHC Honda engine (20 HP). The bad news is that the asking price is several times the price of a new Midget 40 years ago, so it's probably out of Wonko's budget. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 SEL 4.5 update and random thoughts
David Good choice ! once set up these 108 or109's are indeed lovely cars to own. mak. - Original Message - From: David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] W108 SEL 4.5 update and random thoughts Gang, Just wanted to update everyone about the W108 280SEL 4.5 (aka der blaue Engel) that I acquired in the autumn. The car has been enjoying a few weeks of spa treatment at Mercedes Werkstatt in Mountain View, CA. Aside from the core business of refurb'ing MB transmissions, steering and related systems, they also do service work. Paul Prokopec is the proprietor. We got off to a bit of a rough start and he can seem quite gruff (especially on the phone) but he's quite OK once you get to know him. He certainly seems to know his stuff, and handles a lot of machines that are getting rare (Pontons, fintails, and a couple of 6.3s that he takes care of along with a 600 and lots of more typical W123/W126 etc). I wasn't actually looking for a car that needed work etc, but I lost my head when I saw this car and bought it without regard to practicality. As I reported when I first got the car, there were a number of steering and suspension issues that seemed potentially grave. Luckily things have worked out rather well. Just as Peter Fredericks predicted, the rumble/vibration that I feared might be a drive shaft problem turned out to be simply a bad transmission mount. I had it replaced along with the two engine mounts. The driver's side manifold had a very severe crack which actually caused the piece to disintegrate when removed from the car. The original W108 4.5 manifold has been superceded with the one used on the 450SLC, so that was installed. I also had the leaky steering box rebuilt and the relevant rubber replaced in the steering column, front subframe mounts, a tie rod and new tires all around. I inspected the car while it was on the lift. I still can't believe that a 35 year old car can be in such amazing condition; there is simply no corrosion underneath this thing. Even nuts and bolts that hold things like brake/fuel lines etc look like they are only a couple of years old. The car spent most of its life in Modesto CA, where apparently it never rains! My initial panic after discovering how different the W108 is from the models that followed it has subsided. It really is the last of an era, requiring very real and regular maintenance that later cars do not. Another reminder that it really is a classic, I suppose. One thing I have noticed is that the MB service manuals (on CD) are rather sparse compared with the information available for later models. After several months here in CA, I'm only gradually getting used to the ridiculous number of old MBs running around, especially W123 diesels. I see LOTS every single day, not one of them showing the least sign of corrosion or decay. It's time to start collecting my lifetime supply! D. -- David Bruckmann, Palo Alto, CA Current Reality: 1970 Citroen DS21 Pallas (170,000 km) Goettin 1972 Mercedes-Benz 280 SEL 4.5 (150,000 km) Blauer Engel 1976 Citroen 2CV6 (145,000 km) Piaf http://dolly.bruckmann.com/ 1979 Mercedes-Benz 300D (390,000 km) Brown Betty Shady Past: 1971 Citroen DS21 Pallas (137,000km), 1972 Citroen DS21 Pallas (502,000km) 1978 Mercedes-Benz 300D (1,200,000 km or thereabouts) Sieglinde 1979 Mercedes-Benz 300TD non-turbo (260,000 km) Diva 1981 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston (120,000km), 1988 Merkur XR4Ti (209,000km) 1981 Peugeot 505 GRD (350,000km), 1984 MB 300TD (385,000 km) Gertraud 1985 Toyota Camry The Slamry (330,000km) 1986 Renault 9 1.7L (155,000 km) 2002 VW Golf GLS TDI The Hated Golf (74,000 km) -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
You go Brian! You'll have my vote for the rebuild vs. a new purchase.:) Dave H... 1968 280 SE 1971 280 SEL 1979 LP809 Manual (Swiss Army Troop/Cargo Carrier) 1980 280E Manual 1981 240D Manual 1984 300DT 1985 300CD 1985 300SD 1987 300SDL 1987 560SL 1992 300TE 4Matic 1993 300E -- From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 2:45 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D And this IMHO is the true key to making any real difference - just a little change or two in the behaviors of us all. No tree hugging here. But I do shake my head often at what I see around me. Maybe folks don't have to give up their Suburban or big 4x4 - I mean that's not going to happen. (heck, even here in the socialist state of Washington, I see more full sized 4x4s and SUVs than efficient cars - this has been a surprise to me) But maybe people could, once a week, forego driving. And maybe they could wake up and not mash the accelerator by default every time they take off. Okay, slipped into rant mode there. I have taken a much closer look lately, though, at what is sold to us as environmentally friendly. I hear the deeper issues surrounding bio and ethanol and hybrids, and I just revert to my belief that just a few little behavior mods are the real key. Oh, and someone mentioned that their 123s were keep-forever cars. I feel that way too! But just last night my wife reiterated her stance that we should drive these cars 'til they go belly up and then we should move on to something else. Well, actually, she did say that we should hang onto the 240D. I argue that these are classics (I even feel that way about our 190D) and nothing is going to come along that is going to be better in any true sense. I say let's just rebuild the engine or tranny when they go. Heck isn't that more enviro. friendly compared to contributing to the manufacture of new cars? Brian Timothy shared:I like to think I'm enviromentally responsible. That's why I pulled out of traffic last night, stopped the engine and killed an hour at the auto parts place... because I conserved another trip. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
Tim, I have no clue what your business is but I am envious of your WVO supply. Dave H... -- From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 2:45 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D And this IMHO is the true key to making any real difference - just a little change or two in the behaviors of us all. No tree hugging here. But I do shake my head often at what I see around me. Maybe folks don't have to give up their Suburban or big 4x4 - I mean that's not going to happen. (heck, even here in the socialist state of Washington, I see more full sized 4x4s and SUVs than efficient cars - this has been a surprise to me) But maybe people could, once a week, forego driving. And maybe they could wake up and not mash the accelerator by default every time they take off. Okay, slipped into rant mode there. I have taken a much closer look lately, though, at what is sold to us as environmentally friendly. I hear the deeper issues surrounding bio and ethanol and hybrids, and I just revert to my belief that just a few little behavior mods are the real key. Oh, and someone mentioned that their 123s were keep-forever cars. I feel that way too! But just last night my wife reiterated her stance that we should drive these cars 'til they go belly up and then we should move on to something else. Well, actually, she did say that we should hang onto the 240D. I argue that these are classics (I even feel that way about our 190D) and nothing is going to come along that is going to be better in any true sense. I say let's just rebuild the engine or tranny when they go. Heck isn't that more enviro. friendly compared to contributing to the manufacture of new cars? Brian Timothy shared:I like to think I'm enviromentally responsible. That's why I pulled out of traffic last night, stopped the engine and killed an hour at the auto parts place... because I conserved another trip. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 SEL 4.5 update and random thoughts
Ah, those old W108s are great. Save your pennies for the rear suspension rubber next, it's all likely shot (upper diff mount, trailing arm bushings front and rear, spring seats). That will improve handling quite a bit, and get rid of all the suspension noise from the rear. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
Well, what's most environmentally friendly is to GET OUT OF THE CAR and walk (or ride public transit). However, this notion is still political suicide in the US (and Germany), where driving anywhere you want at any time you want is conflated with political freedom. They aren't the same thing, after all, you are quite free to believe what you want and express yourself (within the law) while riding the bus to work. I spend about $200 a month (and rising at the moment) for fuel to drive to work. I'm quite certain that walking up the road a couple miles to town and catching a bus down to work (especially over to the next town where I'm contracted three days a week) would cost somewhat less. To say nothing of not having to spend two hours a day driving -- I could read, do computer work, or etc. on the bus, rather than staring at the road and dodging people trying to kill me (either I'm getting twitching after that accident or people are paying LESS attention that usual while driving -- don't go a day anymore without at least one vehicle drifting over the center line toward me, correcting at the last second, or someone taking off out of turn at a stop sign). I'd weigh a lot less and probably wouldn't have high blood pressure if I walked! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
Biodiesel isn't too bad for growing stuff if made correctly and clean (not a problem with commercial Bio, just homemade), but mix in waste veggie oil and you can get a real mess if there isn't enough biocide in it. Bugs can't eat biodiesel directly, but they sure can munch on veg oil! I'm going to have to replace the filters soon on the 300D for this reason, the pre-filter is turning brown and the fuel gauge has stopped bouncing -- I suspect it was full of slime as the car wasn't driven much. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 SEL 4.5 update and random thoughts
Excellent advise .Replacing these on my 108 transformed the ride quality . In addition I replaced the diff centre pin and boot too.the rubber in the pin had collapsed. mak - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 SEL 4.5 update and random thoughts Ah, those old W108s are great. Save your pennies for the rear suspension rubber next, it's all likely shot (upper diff mount, trailing arm bushings front and rear, spring seats). That will improve handling quite a bit, and get rid of all the suspension noise from the rear. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
Peter, Unfortunately you are partially correct:(There truly are some backyard biodieselers out there that have no clue what ASTM spec means. However, TG they are the exception and not the rule. Biodiesel has approximately the same shelf life as petro diesel if manufactured and then stored correctly. Running a vehicle totally on WVO, not WVO transesterfied into Biodiesel? Now that scares me. But, there are thousands of people who do it ? Dave H... -- From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D Biodiesel isn't too bad for growing stuff if made correctly and clean (not a problem with commercial Bio, just homemade), but mix in waste veggie oil and you can get a real mess if there isn't enough biocide in it. Bugs can't eat biodiesel directly, but they sure can munch on veg oil! I'm going to have to replace the filters soon on the 300D for this reason, the pre-filter is turning brown and the fuel gauge has stopped bouncing -- I suspect it was full of slime as the car wasn't driven much. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator
Yes, it does have a 240V outlet, which is a round 4 prong plug but smaller than a drier plug. Is this what I would need to tie it into the house somehow? http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetailproductId=16634-171-1493lpage=none How would I tie it into the panel as you said? Timothy Robinson wrote: Technically, there is. :) As a licensed guy here, I usually cringe when I hear people talk of back-feeding through the dryer outlet, etc.. At least you have the sense though to know why to trip the main breaker. I'm assuming the 4KW generator has a 20AMP 120/240 outlet? Usually on electric dryer the motor is on one leg (120V) and heat is 240V. (Some dryer the motor is 240V). I think typical heat element is about 1,800W @ 240V. If your generator doesn't have a 120/240 output you're out of luck on the dryer. You could tie an output from ground and neutral into panel and backfeed a double pole breaker in the panel MAKING SURE TO TURN MAIN BREAKER OFF so you don't electricute some poor lineman! That would energise the panel. As a precaution you should turn off breakers such as range, water heater, HVAC and just select the loads you need. (As the guy say's, Don't try this at home kids? disclaimer and all) Your 4KW generator has overload protection? NOTE: Most of the incidents I've heard about portable generators weren't electrical but were caused by the generators being operated in closed spaces such as basements or garages. From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:55:04 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator I have this 4k generator running now which will run about anything I need, have it hooked up via extension cords. Will be needing to do laundry soon and it will run the washer I am sure but cant see anyway to hook the electric drier up to it. Anyway of hooking it into the house power quick and easy and just flipping the main breaker so it doesnt feed back into the power lines? Timothy Robinson wrote: Most of the belt-driven/direct coupled generator heads I've seen require 3,600 RPM. I'd always heard an advantage of the some diesel gensets was the slower, 1,800 RPM speed for sound and long term wear and tear. There are PTO generators which use pto from tractors at 540 RPM input. They're expensive as they utilize a gearbox to rotate the generator at proper speed. I STILL think the easiest thing is an inverter/deep cell battery charged by alternator from car. I have this setup and have even used the old Sears Craftsman mower to charge the battery. One of my homeowners just called saying he wanted to buy his son a generator for Christmas. He was asking what size. I'd equipped the boy's house with a 30AMP 120/240 input from generator. I suggested the guy be sure and buy a generator w/automatic governor which reacts to additional loads and idles down as loads are removed. The reason I mention is on that house I saved the cost of a hardwired transfer switch and use one of the Square D breaker interlocks on the main panel. It's recognised by NEC for use as service interlock/transfer. Last generator I bought (previous house) was an electric start 7,500W at Home Depot for about $1,100. I could dry clothes in electric dryer or heat water in the water heater (4,500W elements). Only thing I couldn't do was run the resistance heat (15KW) on the heat pump. None of that was really necessary though. As I don't have a well pump (municipal water) and do have a wood stove, an inverter provides enough for back-up needs. Sorry for the 'litany' ya'll... I just get into subjects like this. Tim From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:16:37 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator I have GOT to build a generator out of that stationary 617 I have. What all would be involved I wonder. Just get a gen head and hook it up via belt or something? What about some sort of control panel? It can be fairly simple, but you do need RPM control. Harbor Freight has a cheapie 10kW belt-drive 3600 RPM head on sale periodically. It's not very good, not when compared to the heavy duty 1800 RPM ST heads that folks use for the purpose, but maybe it'd be good enough? It's got built-in everything, including some meters and outlets, and has the VR already set up. Just add torque! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:
Re: [MBZ] generator
This gen says something about 30a on it. It actually has 4 plugs, 2 of your regular house 110 or whatever plugs, then one thats 4 round that says 120/240, then another one that is round 3 prong that just says 30A Timothy Robinson wrote: Actually, as with any appliance you'd check the actual load on the faceplate. Correct... if the element is 5000W a 4K generator isn't gonna provide enough power. If the wattage on the element is only nom. 3,000 plus the load of the motor, about 1/3 hp.. it could be done. Yep, standard branch circuit for a dryer is 30A @ 240V and 4K generator is only putting out 16A. So someone would have really screamed if I'd said you can power your range but can only turn on one large and one small burner at a time? From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:14:26 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator You don't have anywhere near enough power to run the dryer (unless it's gas) -- don't even try. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
This picture of my father, R.M.Archer, was probably taken sometime before WW-1. Since he was wearing a uniform, (4th from left) he was probably working as a conductor on that run. It appears that the picture was taken inside the railroad shops which were in Huntingburg, Indiana during that era. The engines that I remember as a child during the 1930s were much larger than this one. Gerry -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 33969 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071216/5b3065f5/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
nice old photo. the train still does dwarf the men and looks absolutely huge in the picture. On Dec 16, 2007 8:00 AM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This picture of my father, R.M.Archer, was probably taken sometime before WW-1. Since he was wearing a uniform, (4th from left) he was probably working as a conductor on that run. It appears that the picture was taken inside the railroad shops which were in Huntingburg, Indiana during that era. The engines that I remember as a child during the 1930s were much larger than this one. Gerry -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 33969 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071216/5b3065f5/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
I stopped in and looked at a Toyota Prius the other day. 45-50 mpg, lifetime warrantee on mechanicals, 8 year warrantee on batteries. Very tempting. Then I went home and thought about it. For the $25,000+ a Prius would cost, I could turn the '83 300D into a like-new car and have plenty of money left over to buy the extra fuel a Prius would have saved. If the fuel situation should get extremely bad, both MBs could be converted to run on VO. (I wonder how many acres of soybeans it would take to yield a years supply of VO; about 1000 gallons? I have a few acres that could be contract farmed. IMHO fuel prices will eventually be coming down. Plants are rapidly being built to extract oil from tar sands, and speculators won't be able to keep prices jacked up forever. Gerry '83 300D and 240D You go Brian! You'll have my vote for the rebuild vs. a new purchase.:) Dave H... -- From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] And this IMHO is the true key to making any real difference - just a little change or two in the behaviors of us all. No tree hugging here. But I do shake my head often at what I see around me. Maybe folks don't have to give up their Suburban or big 4x4 - I mean that's not going to happen. (heck, even here in the socialist state of Washington, I see more full sized 4x4s and SUVs than efficient cars - this has been a surprise to me) But maybe people could, once a week, forego driving. And maybe they could wake up and not mash the accelerator by default every time they take off. Okay, slipped into rant mode there. I have taken a much closer look lately, though, at what is sold to us as environmentally friendly. I hear the deeper issues surrounding bio and ethanol and hybrids, and I just revert to my belief that just a few little behavior mods are the real key. Oh, and someone mentioned that their 123s were keep-forever cars. I feel that way too! But just last night my wife reiterated her stance that we should drive these cars 'til they go belly up and then we should move on to something else. Well, actually, she did say that we should hang onto the 240D. I argue that these are classics (I even feel that way about our 190D) and nothing is going to come along that is going to be better in any true sense. I say let's just rebuild the engine or tranny when they go. Heck isn't that more enviro. friendly compared to contributing to the manufacture of new cars? Brian Timothy shared:I like to think I'm enviromentally responsible. That's why I pulled out of traffic last night, stopped the engine and killed an hour at the auto parts place... because I conserved another trip. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator
Yes, it does have a 240V outlet, which is a round 4 prong plug but smaller than a drier plug. Is this what I would need to tie it into the house somehow? NOBODY makes/sells what you need to mis-use a drier outlet as a power input point. My nickname for those such cables I have (which I have made myself) is Pins-O-Death. I hope that gives you an idea of what they look like. Male pins on both ends. Very dangerous unless you are very cautious about exactly how you use it. For obvious reasons, no sue-able commercial entity will so expose themselves. I make them by getting a drier/range cord, whatever will fit into the socket in question, and putting a mating generator connector on the other end. I have 3 50A range plugs in the garage, mostly just for this sort of thing. Oddly enough, I actually plug a range into one of them sometimes! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GRRRRR!
Will this also check how much current draw the starter is taking?? No, not really. yes, Ohms = Volts / Amps, Amps = Volts/Ohms, Volts = Ohms/Amps You need to measure the resistance of the cable, then measure the voltage difference from the same points when current is flowing. The difficulty there, of course, is that you're not going to have equipment that can reliably measure resistances that low. I use a clamp-on DC ammeter for that. Another (cheaper) option is to acquire a shunt resistor and put it in series with the battery. Then measure voltage across that. They're a precise high-current wire with a known low resistance expressly made for measuring high currents with a voltmeter. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
...Toyota Prius...Very tempting. Except that they're one of the ugliest POS's out there. For the $25,000+ a Prius would cost, I could turn the '83 300D into a like-new car and have plenty of money left over to buy the extra fuel a Prius would have saved. Exactly! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
archer wrote: I stopped in and looked at a Toyota Prius the other day. 45-50 mpg, lifetime warrantee on mechanicals, 8 year warrantee on batteries. Very tempting. If you drive a 240D like you'd have to drive the priapus to get 45+ mpg, you'd be getting 30mpg in the 240D, or 60mpg from a 3 cyl Geo Metro. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
...drive the priapus to get 45+ mpg, The nickname is cute, but totally wrong. I have exactly the opposite reaction (automotively speaking) when looking at them. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GRRRRR!
Jim Cathey wrote: Will this also check how much current draw the starter is taking?? No, not really. I figure if the starter cables are of proper factory size and they get hot, you're drawing serious AMPS, and need to look to the power consumer, not the power source, for your trouble. Seized starter, as mentioned by others, would be my first guess. (2nd guess would be an electrical short inside the starter) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
Jim Cathey wrote: ...drive the priapus to get 45+ mpg, The nickname is cute, but totally wrong. I have exactly the opposite reaction (automotively speaking) when looking at them. You're thinking Priapism. Priapus was a guardian of gardens. If a boy dared to steal from a garden that Priapus was guarding, he was, according to legend, in for a royal buggering. Kind of like what you get if you pay $30k for a compact Toyota, or worse yet, $20k for a three or four year used old compact Toyota. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
He is also partially correct in the assumption that commercial BioD is safe. WRONG. There are many commercial outlets that do NOT make ASTM spec BioD. Luther On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:15:14 -0600, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Unfortunately you are partially correct:(There truly are some backyard biodieselers out there that have no clue what ASTM spec means. However, TG they are the exception and not the rule. Biodiesel has approximately the same shelf life as petro diesel if manufactured and then stored correctly. Running a vehicle totally on WVO, not WVO transesterfied into Biodiesel? Now that scares me. But, there are thousands of people who do it ? Dave H... -- From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 9:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D Biodiesel isn't too bad for growing stuff if made correctly and clean (not a problem with commercial Bio, just homemade), but mix in waste veggie oil and you can get a real mess if there isn't enough biocide in it. Bugs can't eat biodiesel directly, but they sure can munch on veg oil! I'm going to have to replace the filters soon on the 300D for this reason, the pre-filter is turning brown and the fuel gauge has stopped bouncing -- I suspect it was full of slime as the car wasn't driven much. Peter -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (170 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GRRRRR!
Kinda a catch-22. If you spend the money for a decent clamp-on DC ammeter, you have acquired a device that is adequate to measure low ohms. Still, I like DC clamp-on's, but consumer grade ones are flaky. Adding enough ohms to measure the resistance with a Harbor Freight multimeter causes it' own problems and in practice is a real PITA... You can get close enough with a cheap multimeter to diagnose basic problems - maybe +- 5 amps. -Dave Walton On Dec 16, 2007 11:21 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will this also check how much current draw the starter is taking?? No, not really. yes, Ohms = Volts / Amps, Amps = Volts/Ohms, Volts = Ohms/Amps You need to measure the resistance of the cable, then measure the voltage difference from the same points when current is flowing. The difficulty there, of course, is that you're not going to have equipment that can reliably measure resistances that low. I use a clamp-on DC ammeter for that. Another (cheaper) option is to acquire a shunt resistor and put it in series with the battery. Then measure voltage across that. They're a precise high-current wire with a known low resistance expressly made for measuring high currents with a voltmeter. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LT Don's new? car?
Luther wrote: Don, here's a cheap gas winter beater http://www.gulseth.net/Doncar/index.html How cheap is it? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Starter current - was: GRRRRR!
Now it gets dim and the battery cables get warm (after several tries at this I should say) but nothing but the solenoid click. It usually takes two people, but you should take a voltmeter and connect it between the center post (not the cable clamp) of the battery + and the starter motor's center post (not the cable or the nut) and have somebody hit the starter. You don't want to see very much voltage at all. Repeat the test with the battery - post and the body of the starter. Ditto. Any significant voltage means you have a wiring problem. A volt is too much. Half a volt is probably too much. -- Jim Will this also check how much current draw the starter is taking?? Luther yes, Ohms = Volts / Amps, Amps = Volts/Ohms, Volts = Ohms/Amps You need to measure the resistance of the cable, then measure the voltage difference from the same points when current is flowing. -Dave Walton Or, if you do the test with on a good system and record (or remember) the results you can compare the difference. If the voltage drop is more, the current draw is also more. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Starter current - was: GRRRRR!
It's a bad starter folks, must be replaced. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
If the fuel situation should get extremely bad, both MBs could be converted to run on VO. (I wonder how many acres of soybeans it would take to yield a years supply of VO; about 1000 gallons? I have a few acres that could be contract farmed. If you contract out the land, pick something other than soy!! Peanuts, rape, cotton, palm, etc all make better base stock than soy. For more info, pester the folks on the biodiesel list. *smile* --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator
The other day I was in Lowes getting something in the electrical aisle. This woman says to me, You look like you know what you are doing. (Disclaimer -- she was older and not very attractive, to me anyway) I say, Well maybe! She then says she is looking for an extension cord to plug into her outdoor Christmas lights that has prongs on it, to fit into something like this which was a female end of an extension cord. So I asked her why she needed that. She says, well the light strings have these kinds of plugs on the end and I need to hook them up to the power. So I tell her that the other end of the string has one of these on it, showing her the male end of the ext cord. She says, It does? I say, yeah, thats how you strung them together. You need to reverse the string, or plug them in at the other end. Oh she says maybe so, but I still need this other kind to hook them up. Uh no I tell her again, you make something like that and you will fry yourself when you go to plug it in as the electrical power will now be exposed, and it will get wet and make everything around it electrified so your dog and mailman and anything else will get fried too. oh she says again, unconvinced, and keeps looking while I go off. Free advice, worth every penny! --R Jim Cathey wrote: NOBODY makes/sells what you need to mis-use a drier outlet as a power input point. My nickname for those such cables I have (which I have made myself) is Pins-O-Death. I hope that gives you an idea of what they look like. Male pins on both ends. Very dangerous unless you are very cautious about exactly how you use it. For obvious reasons, no sue-able commercial entity will so expose themselves. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
Or see your doctor if you experience a priapus interest lasting longer than 4 hours. -R Mitch Haley wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: ...drive the priapus to get 45+ mpg, The nickname is cute, but totally wrong. I have exactly the opposite reaction (automotively speaking) when looking at them. You're thinking Priapism. Priapus was a guardian of gardens. If a boy dared to steal from a garden that Priapus was guarding, he was, according to legend, in for a royal buggering. Kind of like what you get if you pay $30k for a compact Toyota, or worse yet, $20k for a three or four year used old compact Toyota. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
No affiliation, etc Take care. Located in Providence, RI... Chuck Phoenix, AZ, but in Hawaii for the Holidays.. http://providence.craigslist.org/car/505962239.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
Fmiser wrote: If you contract out the land, pick something other than soy!! Peanuts, rape, cotton, palm, etc all make better base stock than soy. But...but...the government subsidizes soy biodiesel, and they wouldn't do that if it wasn't the best use of resources, would they? g Seriously, I believe yield per acre is under 40bu, and I recently saw an ad for a two stage heated press that claimed to extract over 1.1 gallon per bushel, so soy oil yield is going to be somewhere below 50 gallons per acre, and we all know that soy oil is not the preferred feed stock. The fun part of renting the land out on shares is going to be finding somebody who wants to farm the oilseed that you want, and finding a way to get the oil out of the seed if you want to make biodiesel with your 1/4th of the crop. In theory, you could do it with 100 acres and a $10k investment in your own oil press if you want to go with soy, which should be easy to find a farmer to partner with. Or you could just buy the press, and 1,000 bu of beans, and sell the leftover high protein soy meal for about what you paid for the beans. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LT Don's new? car?
Why don't you drive that to Iowa (w/ title) and take the Quantum home? grin On Dec 16, 2007 4:58 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, here's a cheap gas winter beater http://www.gulseth.net/Doncar/index.html -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
Chuck Landenberger wrote: Located in Providence, RI... http://providence.craigslist.org/car/505962239.html Actually it's in Warwick, which is even closer to my niece in W. Greenwich than Providence is. Must control urge to fly to Rhode Island... Fortunately, the niece and family are getting ready to do some job prospecting in StLouis, before going to Commiefornia for two weeks over the holidays, so dropping in on them this week isn't even a possibility. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator
Way back when I was kid in Civil Air Patrol, we had a surplus transceiver (BC-669?) that had a female socket for the power input - it came with a male-male cord to supply the 115V. I always treated it with respect, plugged it into the power supply first, then into the wall. I also wondered what bright engineer came up with that design. NOBODY makes/sells what you need to mis-use a drier outlet as a power input point. My nickname for those such cables I have (which I have made myself) is Pins-O-Death. I hope that gives you an idea of what they look like. Male pins on both ends. Very dangerous unless you are very cautious about exactly how you use it. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
But they could drive it to you On Dec 16, 2007 1:13 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuck Landenberger wrote: Located in Providence, RI... http://providence.craigslist.org/car/505962239.html Actually it's in Warwick, which is even closer to my niece in W. Greenwich than Providence is. Must control urge to fly to Rhode Island... Fortunately, the niece and family are getting ready to do some job prospecting in StLouis, before going to Commiefornia for two weeks over the holidays, so dropping in on them this week isn't even a possibility. Mitch. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LT Don's new? car?
It said 1250 on the windshield. Mitch Haley wrote: Luther wrote: Don, here's a cheap gas winter beater http://www.gulseth.net/Doncar/index.html How cheap is it? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
Damn Chuck Landenberger wrote: No affiliation, etc Take care. Located in Providence, RI... Chuck Phoenix, AZ, but in Hawaii for the Holidays.. http://providence.craigslist.org/car/505962239.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LT Don's new? car?
that would be a bad deal Wonko the Sane wrote: Why don't you drive that to Iowa (w/ title) and take the Quantum home? grin On Dec 16, 2007 4:58 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, here's a cheap gas winter beater http://www.gulseth.net/Doncar/index.html -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] People are stupid
So I have this guy who is needing a refund but it hit the fan so to speak before I could get it done (no power and all). This is big news all over the country. So while the power is out the guy sends several emails a day wondering where his refund his. So I got gen power and got mail yesterday and sent the guy his refund and told him I was sorry he had to wait a few days but he must not have noticed on the news that the whole state of OK just about is out of power. Never responded with a thanks for the refund or anything. Geez. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Damn If only you'd known in time for Regina and the Urchins (is that a good name for a band?) to take an Amtrak down to RI and drive it home... They'd see more of the country from the road than from the air. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
yes, thats why I say damn. Urchins, heathens, something like that. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Damn If only you'd known in time for Regina and the Urchins (is that a good name for a band?) to take an Amtrak down to RI and drive it home... They'd see more of the country from the road than from the air. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LT Don's new? car?
For whom? On Dec 16, 2007 1:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that would be a bad deal Wonko the Sane wrote: Why don't you drive that to Iowa (w/ title) and take the Quantum home? grin -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LT Don's new? car?
Luther. Wonko the Sane wrote: For whom? On Dec 16, 2007 1:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that would be a bad deal Wonko the Sane wrote: Why don't you drive that to Iowa (w/ title) and take the Quantum home? grin -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LT Don's new? car?
There's a '93 300E in our local paper for $1300 - been there for a month now. It needs a tranny. On Dec 16, 2007 1:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that would be a bad deal Wonko the Sane wrote: Why don't you drive that to Iowa (w/ title) and take the Quantum home? grin On Dec 16, 2007 4:58 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, here's a cheap gas winter beater http://www.gulseth.net/Doncar/index.html -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LT Don's new? car?
really, got any details or anything? I got trannies OK Don wrote: There's a '93 300E in our local paper for $1300 - been there for a month now. It needs a tranny. On Dec 16, 2007 1:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that would be a bad deal Wonko the Sane wrote: Why don't you drive that to Iowa (w/ title) and take the Quantum home? grin On Dec 16, 2007 4:58 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, here's a cheap gas winter beater http://www.gulseth.net/Doncar/index.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
This is about 20 miles from me-tempting. If anyone wants me to go kick tires, take critical pix, I can find time later in the week. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 1:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD! No affiliation, etc Take care. Located in Providence, RI... Chuck Phoenix, AZ, but in Hawaii for the Holidays.. http://providence.craigslist.org/car/505962239.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
Yes, probably not far from TF Green airport. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 2:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD! Chuck Landenberger wrote: Located in Providence, RI... http://providence.craigslist.org/car/505962239.html Actually it's in Warwick, which is even closer to my niece in W. Greenwich than Providence is. Must control urge to fly to Rhode Island... Fortunately, the niece and family are getting ready to do some job prospecting in StLouis, before going to Commiefornia for two weeks over the holidays, so dropping in on them this week isn't even a possibility. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LT Don's new? car?
Since it's a gasser, and doesn't get good mileage, I haven't paid any attention. This is what the add says: 1993 Mercedes 300, Black, 215K, auto, motor runs strong, needs trans work, does not have reverse. Way Below Blue Bk $1300 405 990 2225 after 2 PM. Guess I made the assumption that it's a gasser - or maybe it said 300E in an earlier ad. On Dec 16, 2007 1:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: really, got any details or anything? I got trannies OK Don wrote: There's a '93 300E in our local paper for $1300 - been there for a month now. It needs a tranny. On Dec 16, 2007 1:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that would be a bad deal Wonko the Sane wrote: Why don't you drive that to Iowa (w/ title) and take the Quantum home? grin On Dec 16, 2007 4:58 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, here's a cheap gas winter beater http://www.gulseth.net/Doncar/index.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] my dogs' webpage
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Re: [MBZ] LT Don's new? car?
OK Don wrote: 1993 Mercedes 300, Black, 215K, auto, motor runs strong, needs trans work, does not have reverse. Way Below Blue Bk $1300 405 990 2225 after 2 PM. Guess I made the assumption that it's a gasser Was there a W140 300SE? Were the 140/603 called 300 or 350 that year? Of course, if you are lucky, it might be a 300D 2.5, wasn't '93 the last year? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
Wow! $800 for a final year 300CD with no electrical/mechanical problems? I would sure like to have that one! With the storms of late, it wouldn't be a fun trip back home to Oregon. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR, hoping for a deal like that a little closer to home, yeah right! 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
archer wrote: Then I went home and thought about it. For the $25,000+ a Prius would cost, I could turn the '83 300D into a like-new car and have plenty of money left over to buy the extra fuel a Prius would have saved. Or if you were wanting a new car anyway, spend less than 25k for a loaded Jetta TDI (some of the 2005 Passat TDIs are less than 25k now). You still get 45mpg, but without all the hassles of a Prius (batteries, etc). John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Succaneers Suck no longer
Went to the game today to see the Succaneers spank the Falcons as well as run their first kickoff return in the club's history. It was a wonderful day. Looks like you'll get that draft pick, Rusty. MacPoos Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LT Don's new? car?
Yes, there is a 140 300SE. The 140 diesel in that year was the 300SD. Mitch Haley wrote: OK Don wrote: 1993 Mercedes 300, Black, 215K, auto, motor runs strong, needs trans work, does not have reverse. Way Below Blue Bk $1300 405 990 2225 after 2 PM. Guess I made the assumption that it's a gasser Was there a W140 300SE? Were the 140/603 called 300 or 350 that year? Of course, if you are lucky, it might be a 300D 2.5, wasn't '93 the last year? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
Kevin, Ad says $1500? Around here, we have to worry about the tinworm, esp. on 123's. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Kraly Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 4:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD! Wow! $800 for a final year 300CD with no electrical/mechanical problems? I would sure like to have that one! With the storms of late, it wouldn't be a fun trip back home to Oregon. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR, hoping for a deal like that a little closer to home, yeah right! 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Portable Garages
Hi, Alles. Ole Man Winter did it to my HF Portable garage today. Down over the top of my 300TD. I had just finished with the driveway next door and mine and had put away the snow blower in the shed, locked up and turned around, and thought aah s**t!. Much careful shovelling to free the cover from the very bent frame, then took apart the frame and peeled that crap off my car. Y'know, someone up there likes me, no damage! Now all that is needed is a car cover until spring. Dodged the bullet, this time. 8 plus inches of wet snow and then rain, was too much for it. Pictures at 11. Fred Moir Lynn MA 85 300TD 87 190DT Bent. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
The guy must have reposted/edited the ad since it now says $800. It did say that the body was in good shape, but hidden rust would definitely be a problem where you are in RI. I remember many stories my dad told of rusty cars in Chicago where he grew up. Some good ones include a friend's car who's rear doors wouldn't open. Since the supporting structure was rotted away, and the doors were binding and keeping the car from collapsing. He told me about many times he's seen springs popping through fenders/hoods, and another one of his friends had a car bust in half while being towed on a tow truck. The tin worm is nothing to take lightly. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300Sd 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
There for a moment I thought you were breaking the news that you are a priest. On Dec 16, 2007 7:00 AM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This picture of my father, R.M.Archer, was probably taken sometime before WW-1. Since he was wearing a uniform, (4th from left) he was probably working as a conductor on that run. It appears that the picture was taken inside the railroad shops which were in Huntingburg, Indiana during that era. The engines that I remember as a child during the 1930s were much larger than this one. Gerry -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 33969 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071216/5b3065f5/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] $1500 S123 turbo Indiana
Blue, luggage rack, 270k, SLS seems to be holding the car up in the picture. Whoever thought up U-GO MOTORWORKS for a dealer name? Sounds too much like Yugo Motorworks. http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=1-898388 Also has a '90 300SE and a '81 280GE. I think $6500 is too much for the 6.5L Silverado. http://www.auto-rv.com/dealerads.aspx?acct=8129237032 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
I kinda think the cost of replacing those hybrid batteries which will have to be done about the time the warranty expires is a greater cost than what I paid for the four 300Ds. Let's see... the vehicle tax is due at the end of the month. Mine is $9.24 compared to brother's prime vehicle which is $238.00. I have no payment nor interest yet I believe brother's payment for three months would be equal to what I paid for each vehicle. Oh, and as my insurance is $247.00 for six months, the brother's is over $1,600. each six. hmmm From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:07:27 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D I stopped in and looked at a Toyota Prius the other day. 45-50 mpg, lifetime warrantee on mechanicals, 8 year warrantee on batteries. Very tempting. Then I went home and thought about it. For the $25,000+ a Prius would cost, I could turn the '83 300D into a like-new car and have plenty of money left over to buy the extra fuel a Prius would have saved. If the fuel situation should get extremely bad, both MBs could be converted to run on VO. (I wonder how many acres of soybeans it would take to yield a years supply of VO; about 1000 gallons? I have a few acres that could be contract farmed. IMHO fuel prices will eventually be coming down. Plants are rapidly being built to extract oil from tar sands, and speculators won't be able to keep prices jacked up forever. Gerry '83 300D and 240D You go Brian! You'll have my vote for the rebuild vs. a new purchase.:) Dave H... -- From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] And this IMHO is the true key to making any real difference - just a little change or two in the behaviors of us all. No tree hugging here. But I do shake my head often at what I see around me. Maybe folks don't have to give up their Suburban or big 4x4 - I mean that's not going to happen. (heck, even here in the socialist state of Washington, I see more full sized 4x4s and SUVs than efficient cars - this has been a surprise to me) But maybe people could, once a week, forego driving. And maybe they could wake up and not mash the accelerator by default every time they take off. Okay, slipped into rant mode there. I have taken a much closer look lately, though, at what is sold to us as environmentally friendly. I hear the deeper issues surrounding bio and ethanol and hybrids, and I just revert to my belief that just a few little behavior mods are the real key. Oh, and someone mentioned that their 123s were keep-forever cars. I feel that way too! But just last night my wife reiterated her stance that we should drive these cars 'til they go belly up and then we should move on to something else. Well, actually, she did say that we should hang onto the 240D. I argue that these are classics (I even feel that way about our 190D) and nothing is going to come along that is going to be better in any true sense. I say let's just rebuild the engine or tranny when they go. Heck isn't that more enviro. friendly compared to contributing to the manufacture of new cars? Brian Timothy shared:I like to think I'm enviromentally responsible. That's why I pulled out of traffic last night, stopped the engine and killed an hour at the auto parts place... because I conserved another trip. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] generator
Dad was a retired electrical contractor then county electrical inspector for 15 years until he retired again. I've been licensed for twenty years. We share a lot of interesting stories. One FAVORITE is when we're in Home Depot or Lowes and overhear a homeowner asking one of the guys who work in the electrical department electrical advice usually the first thing they say is, Your not planning on having it inspected are you? Then I'd do... From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 12:37:47 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] generator The other day I was in Lowes getting something in the electrical aisle. This woman says to me, You look like you know what you are doing. (Disclaimer -- she was older and not very attractive, to me anyway) I say, Well maybe! She then says she is looking for an extension cord to plug into her outdoor Christmas lights that has prongs on it, to fit into something like this which was a female end of an extension cord. So I asked her why she needed that. She says, well the light strings have these kinds of plugs on the end and I need to hook them up to the power. So I tell her that the other end of the string has one of these on it, showing her the male end of the ext cord. She says, It does? I say, yeah, thats how you strung them together. You need to reverse the string, or plug them in at the other end. Oh she says maybe so, but I still need this other kind to hook them up. Uh no I tell her again, you make something like that and you will fry yourself when you go to plug it in as the electrical power will now be exposed, and it will get wet and make everything around it electrified so your dog and mailman and anything else will get fried too. oh she says again, unconvinced, and keeps looking while I go off. Free advice, worth every penny! --R Jim Cathey wrote: NOBODY makes/sells what you need to mis-use a drier outlet as a power input point. My nickname for those such cables I have (which I have made myself) is Pins-O-Death. I hope that gives you an idea of what they look like. Male pins on both ends. Very dangerous unless you are very cautious about exactly how you use it. For obvious reasons, no sue-able commercial entity will so expose themselves. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
This is beginning to sound like that $1,600. Troybilt tiller I bought so I could grow $15. worth of tomatoes and corn? From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:57:41 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D Fmiser wrote: If you contract out the land, pick something other than soy!! Peanuts, rape, cotton, palm, etc all make better base stock than soy. But...but...the government subsidizes soy biodiesel, and they wouldn't do that if it wasn't the best use of resources, would they? g Seriously, I believe yield per acre is under 40bu, and I recently saw an ad for a two stage heated press that claimed to extract over 1.1 gallon per bushel, so soy oil yield is going to be somewhere below 50 gallons per acre, and we all know that soy oil is not the preferred feed stock. The fun part of renting the land out on shares is going to be finding somebody who wants to farm the oilseed that you want, and finding a way to get the oil out of the seed if you want to make biodiesel with your 1/4th of the crop. In theory, you could do it with 100 acres and a $10k investment in your own oil press if you want to go with soy, which should be easy to find a farmer to partner with. Or you could just buy the press, and 1,000 bu of beans, and sell the leftover high protein soy meal for about what you paid for the beans. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] People are stupid
You want we should hurt him for ya!?? :) T From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:51:19 -0600 To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED], mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] People are stupid So I have this guy who is needing a refund but it hit the fan so to speak before I could get it done (no power and all). This is big news all over the country. So while the power is out the guy sends several emails a day wondering where his refund his. So I got gen power and got mail yesterday and sent the guy his refund and told him I was sorry he had to wait a few days but he must not have noticed on the news that the whole state of OK just about is out of power. Never responded with a thanks for the refund or anything. Geez. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
No doubt the cost of the plane fare would have paid for the vehicle... From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:53:21 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD! Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Damn If only you'd known in time for Regina and the Urchins (is that a good name for a band?) to take an Amtrak down to RI and drive it home... They'd see more of the country from the road than from the air. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $1500 S123 turbo Indiana
The S stands for slow, perhaps. On Dec 16, 2007 5:31 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blue, luggage rack, 270k, SLS seems to be holding the car up in the picture. Whoever thought up U-GO MOTORWORKS for a dealer name? Sounds too much like Yugo Motorworks. http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=1-898388 Also has a '90 300SE and a '81 280GE. I think $6500 is too much for the 6.5L Silverado. http://www.auto-rv.com/dealerads.aspx?acct=8129237032 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] People are stupid
I had a doorhandle for a GMC sell on eBay for like $0.87. I shipped it to the wrong address, whoops. Unfortunately the jackass doesn't ship it back. So I gotta refund the money, well this all goes down while I'm on vacation. I get back, give him his refund and then he gives me negative feedback in which he calls me unprofessional. Apparently he doesn't realize that selling on eBay is obviously not my profession. So he gets a negative feedback over the time it takes me to send him $0.87. -Curt Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:51:19 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] People are stupid To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED], mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed So I have this guy who is needing a refund but it hit the fan so to speak before I could get it done (no power and all). This is big news all over the country. So while the power is out the guy sends several emails a day wondering where his refund his. So I got gen power and got mail yesterday and sent the guy his refund and told him I was sorry he had to wait a few days but he must not have noticed on the news that the whole state of OK just about is out of power. Never responded with a thanks for the refund or anything. Geez. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
Umm, well yeah. Not that it'll keep me from buying your 240D, this one is probably a rusty turd. -Curt Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:20:57 -0500 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD! To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is about 20 miles from me-tempting. If anyone wants me to go kick tires, take critical pix, I can find time later in the week. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Succaneers Suck no longer
You're expecting Miami to win 3 more games than Hotlanta? StL needs to win 1 more than the Falcons I'd expect Miami will draft Darren McFadden as the first pick of the draft. Luther On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:49:29 -0600, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Went to the game today to see the Succaneers spank the Falcons as well as run their first kickoff return in the club's history. It was a wonderful day. Looks like you'll get that draft pick, Rusty. MacPoos ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
I will go look at it and photo it tomorrow or Tuesday. If there is one thing I know, it is where to look for 123 rust. Will check window seals and set back lock. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:20 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD! Umm, well yeah. Not that it'll keep me from buying your 240D, this one is probably a rusty turd. -Curt Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:20:57 -0500 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD! To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is about 20 miles from me-tempting. If anyone wants me to go kick tires, take critical pix, I can find time later in the week. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LT Don's new? car?
You have a deal if I bring your step-daughter home with me :D Luther On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:11:59 -0600, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't you drive that to Iowa (w/ title) and take the Quantum home? grin On Dec 16, 2007 4:58 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, here's a cheap gas winter beater http://www.gulseth.net/Doncar/index.html -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (170 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No power
Ditto for me? Luther On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:17:04 -0600, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Done. On Dec 15, 2007 2:37 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That could be a really cool wallpaper. Can you send me a higher resolution version (1024x) at my other email address? On Dec 11, 2007 7:58 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are very fortunate - power came on this afternoon, still on after the second time. Knocking on wood - hoping that it stays on through the night. MB related picture from the storm - after Kaleb approves it. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (170 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
Dwight. Ta, very much FredMoir Lynn MA At 08:08 PM 12/16/2007, you wrote: I will go look at it and photo it tomorrow or Tuesday. If there is one thing I know, it is where to look for 123 rust. Will check window seals and set back lock. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
I love rants. Allow me to continue! I lived downtown for 16 years. I left the vehicle parked and walked everywhere I needed to go. The exercise was great. From the days of marching the military 6 to 5 (six strides = five yards), my pace of about 96 bpm (beats per minute... imagine a Sousa march = 120 bpm) covers about 80 yards per minute. That's just under 3MPH. Great exercise cardio thing. I still took the bus sometimes but only around downtown in the free zone. Why stand at a bus stop for the hourly bus to spend $.60 when an hour's walk you'd be there anyway? This summer I took a six month contract in the mountains doing a job I used to do twenty-five years ago. I was younger then. Before signing the contract I walked the length of the valley each evening (seven miles) for two weeks just to imagine I was in near the physical condition as I was when I was 24 y/o. (NOT) Still, it was a great training and it adjusted me to the altitude. (We're talking about 4,400 ft. above sea and the mountain top where I worked just under a mile.) Weeks into the contract I had lost some added pounds, my blood pressure and general well-being was greatly improved. And this IMHO is the true key to making any real difference - just a little change or two in the behaviors of us all. This evening I visited some friends. They had gas logs in three fireplaces in their home. They enjoy the warmth of the hearth yet they had the air conditioning running so the house didn't get too hot. I just noted the excess as they discarded food in preparation that I would have made meals from. Consumer electronics have been discarded as obsolete for the latest models, the kids are learning these same values, it's only money. dad! Oh, the fitness center membership for the whole family? How was little obese Johnny earning his allowance this summer while you paid $75.00 a week to someone to mow your lawn? OK... now I am ranting. From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:45:28 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D And this IMHO is the true key to making any real difference - just a little change or two in the behaviors of us all. No tree hugging here. But I do shake my head often at what I see around me. Maybe folks don't have to give up their Suburban or big 4x4 - I mean that's not going to happen. (heck, even here in the socialist state of Washington, I see more full sized 4x4s and SUVs than efficient cars - this has been a surprise to me) But maybe people could, once a week, forego driving. And maybe they could wake up and not mash the accelerator by default every time they take off. Okay, slipped into rant mode there. I have taken a much closer look lately, though, at what is sold to us as environmentally friendly. I hear the deeper issues surrounding bio and ethanol and hybrids, and I just revert to my belief that just a few little behavior mods are the real key. Oh, and someone mentioned that their 123s were keep-forever cars. I feel that way too! But just last night my wife reiterated her stance that we should drive these cars 'til they go belly up and then we should move on to something else. Well, actually, she did say that we should hang onto the 240D. I argue that these are classics (I even feel that way about our 190D) and nothing is going to come along that is going to be better in any true sense. I say let's just rebuild the engine or tranny when they go. Heck isn't that more enviro. friendly compared to contributing to the manufacture of new cars? Brian Timothy shared:I like to think I'm enviromentally responsible. That's why I pulled out of traffic last night, stopped the engine and killed an hour at the auto parts place... because I conserved another trip. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
LOL, Dave... by trade I'm a licensed electrical contractor. My degree is in in music performance (piano). Business? The past season among other duties, I was the old ragtime pianist in a Wild West Saloon at a theme park. It's not a job, it's a lifestyle! The WVO is from the food outlets. I'll share! Bring the family anytime! Let the kids ride the rides while you watch the Can-Can dancers and I'll send you home with as much oil as you can haul. Right now I've 124 containers settling in the garage. OY! From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:32:26 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D Tim, I have no clue what your business is but I am envious of your WVO supply. Dave H... -- From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 2:45 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D And this IMHO is the true key to making any real difference - just a little change or two in the behaviors of us all. No tree hugging here. But I do shake my head often at what I see around me. Maybe folks don't have to give up their Suburban or big 4x4 - I mean that's not going to happen. (heck, even here in the socialist state of Washington, I see more full sized 4x4s and SUVs than efficient cars - this has been a surprise to me) But maybe people could, once a week, forego driving. And maybe they could wake up and not mash the accelerator by default every time they take off. Okay, slipped into rant mode there. I have taken a much closer look lately, though, at what is sold to us as environmentally friendly. I hear the deeper issues surrounding bio and ethanol and hybrids, and I just revert to my belief that just a few little behavior mods are the real key. Oh, and someone mentioned that their 123s were keep-forever cars. I feel that way too! But just last night my wife reiterated her stance that we should drive these cars 'til they go belly up and then we should move on to something else. Well, actually, she did say that we should hang onto the 240D. I argue that these are classics (I even feel that way about our 190D) and nothing is going to come along that is going to be better in any true sense. I say let's just rebuild the engine or tranny when they go. Heck isn't that more enviro. friendly compared to contributing to the manufacture of new cars? Brian Timothy shared:I like to think I'm enviromentally responsible. That's why I pulled out of traffic last night, stopped the engine and killed an hour at the auto parts place... because I conserved another trip. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
I will go look at it and photo it tomorrow or Tuesday. If there is one thing I know, it is where to look for 123 rust. Will check window seals and set back lock. Dwight Coupes rust at the bottom of the back window in the corners too. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
i really like my 123 coupe, and it's a rusty beater. On Dec 16, 2007 8:40 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will go look at it and photo it tomorrow or Tuesday. If there is one thing I know, it is where to look for 123 rust. Will check window seals and set back lock. Dwight Coupes rust at the bottom of the back window in the corners too. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
Timothy Robinson wrote: No doubt the cost of the plane fare would have paid for the vehicle... Three short-notice one-way tickets ain't cheap. (unless Regina bought two one ways for herself, then the car could have saved four tickets) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No power
I will send it to you. On Dec 16, 2007 7:10 PM, Luther - laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto for me? Luther On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:17:04 -0600, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Done. On Dec 15, 2007 2:37 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That could be a really cool wallpaper. Can you send me a higher resolution version (1024x) at my other email address? On Dec 11, 2007 7:58 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are very fortunate - power came on this afternoon, still on after the second time. Knocking on wood - hoping that it stays on through the night. MB related picture from the storm - after Kaleb approves it. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (170 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
some local needs to buy it On Dec 16, 2007 8:54 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Timothy Robinson wrote: No doubt the cost of the plane fare would have paid for the vehicle... Three short-notice one-way tickets ain't cheap. (unless Regina bought two one ways for herself, then the car could have saved four tickets) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
Sounds like Dodge City, Kansas --- On Dec 16, 2007 7:36 PM, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL, Dave... by trade I'm a licensed electrical contractor. My degree is in in music performance (piano). Business? The past season among other duties, I was the old ragtime pianist in a Wild West Saloon at a theme park. It's not a job, it's a lifestyle! The WVO is from the food outlets. I'll share! Bring the family anytime! Let the kids ride the rides while you watch the Can-Can dancers and I'll send you home with as much oil as you can haul. Right now I've 124 containers settling in the garage. OY! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No power
Already done. On Dec 16, 2007 7:55 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will send it to you. On Dec 16, 2007 7:10 PM, Luther - laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto for me? Luther On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:17:04 -0600, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Done. On Dec 15, 2007 2:37 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That could be a really cool wallpaper. Can you send me a higher resolution version (1024x) at my other email address? On Dec 11, 2007 7:58 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are very fortunate - power came on this afternoon, still on after the second time. Knocking on wood - hoping that it stays on through the night. MB related picture from the storm - after Kaleb approves it. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (170 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No power
Now he has two copies. :-) (You showed as away.) On Dec 16, 2007 8:20 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Already done. On Dec 16, 2007 7:55 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will send it to you. On Dec 16, 2007 7:10 PM, Luther - laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto for me? Luther On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:17:04 -0600, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Done. On Dec 15, 2007 2:37 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That could be a really cool wallpaper. Can you send me a higher resolution version (1024x) at my other email address? On Dec 11, 2007 7:58 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are very fortunate - power came on this afternoon, still on after the second time. Knocking on wood - hoping that it stays on through the night. MB related picture from the storm - after Kaleb approves it. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (170 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
AW... I gotta have a sedan. Coupes give me a neckache. Besides, I grew up in the Cadillac Body by Fisher, Enter like a lady era. No one had coupes because it was difficult for old great aunts to climb ass in the air into a back seat. Those old great aunts who bought the Lincoln and Mercury coupes with the long doors? I've seen too many of them park on a slope at a family picnic and have the door drag them out of the seat when they opened it. I had a young salesman once use a pitch that my old Fleetwood was like riding around in one's living room. (Land yacht they called it.) I didn't trade on this little coupe he was trying to move. I said, Some of us just MIGHT LIKE riding around in our living rooms. Still, I like the lighter doors on sedans as cheap strip malls try to fit more cars in tighter spaces. From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 20:52:04 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD! i really like my 123 coupe, and it's a rusty beater. On Dec 16, 2007 8:40 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will go look at it and photo it tomorrow or Tuesday. If there is one thing I know, it is where to look for 123 rust. Will check window seals and set back lock. Dwight Coupes rust at the bottom of the back window in the corners too. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D
Nope... actually, Western North Carolina where I call home, the Great Smoky Mountains. Y'all come! From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 20:20:21 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knock on wood... 300D Sounds like Dodge City, Kansas --- On Dec 16, 2007 7:36 PM, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL, Dave... by trade I'm a licensed electrical contractor. My degree is in in music performance (piano). Business? The past season among other duties, I was the old ragtime pianist in a Wild West Saloon at a theme park. It's not a job, it's a lifestyle! The WVO is from the food outlets. I'll share! Bring the family anytime! Let the kids ride the rides while you watch the Can-Can dancers and I'll send you home with as much oil as you can haul. Right now I've 124 containers settling in the garage. OY! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] People are stupid
Like the kid in the Bruce Willis move who said, I see dead people I see stupid people. They are everywhere. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:51 PM To: Banned List; mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] People are stupid So I have this guy who is needing a refund but it hit the fan so to speak before I could get it done (no power and all). This is big news all over the country. So while the power is out the guy sends several emails a day wondering where his refund his. So I got gen power and got mail yesterday and sent the guy his refund and told him I was sorry he had to wait a few days but he must not have noticed on the news that the whole state of OK just about is out of power. Never responded with a thanks for the refund or anything. Geez. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] People are stupid
Come to work with me some day. (I am referring to my co-workers, not my case load.) On Dec 16, 2007 8:41 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like the kid in the Bruce Willis move who said, I see dead people I see stupid people. They are everywhere. Bob R. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD!
Just got a reply from the seller-he sold it today. :-( Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 8:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this '85 CD! I will go look at it and photo it tomorrow or Tuesday. If there is one thing I know, it is where to look for 123 rust. Will check window seals and set back lock. Dwight Coupes rust at the bottom of the back window in the corners too. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] People are stupid
You know... I used to be so frustrated (as an anal retentive compulsive obsessive person) until I adjusted my thinking to realise that stupid people do exist. Being a Southern boy and embracing the phrases, Bless your heart... Lord love ya helped. Now I actually come across as compassionate! LOL From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 20:57:47 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] People are stupid Come to work with me some day. (I am referring to my co-workers, not my case load.) On Dec 16, 2007 8:41 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like the kid in the Bruce Willis move who said, I see dead people I see stupid people. They are everywhere. Bob R. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
Blessings on you, my son! (-:] Gerry From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] There for a moment I thought you were breaking the news that you are a priest. . On Dec 16, 2007 7:00 AM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This picture of my father, R.M.Archer, was probably taken sometime before WW-1. Since he was wearing a uniform, (4th from left) he was probably working as a conductor on that run. It appears that the picture was taken inside the railroad shops which were in Huntingburg, Indiana during that era. The engines that I remember as a child during the 1930s were much larger than this one. Gerry -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 33969 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071216/5b3065f5/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1180 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 2:51 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] People are stupid
Stupid people are like slinkies - totally worthless, but so much fun to watch when you push them down stairs. On Dec 16, 2007 8:57 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come to work with me some day. (I am referring to my co-workers, not my case load.) On Dec 16, 2007 8:41 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like the kid in the Bruce Willis move who said, I see dead people I see stupid people. They are everywhere. Bob R. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] People are stupid
AW... that ain't right! I just imagine all these Bullwinkles. When people fall down stairs there's always that stpid person who asks, Did that hurt? From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:29:25 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] People are stupid Stupid people are like slinkies - totally worthless, but so much fun to watch when you push them down stairs. On Dec 16, 2007 8:57 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Come to work with me some day. (I am referring to my co-workers, not my case load.) On Dec 16, 2007 8:41 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like the kid in the Bruce Willis move who said, I see dead people I see stupid people. They are everywhere. Bob R. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
Nice try -- I am a Presbyterian who attends a Methodist church. On Dec 16, 2007 9:17 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blessings on you, my son! (-:] Gerry From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] There for a moment I thought you were breaking the news that you are a priest. . On Dec 16, 2007 7:00 AM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This picture of my father, R.M.Archer, was probably taken sometime before WW-1. Since he was wearing a uniform, (4th from left) he was probably working as a conductor on that run. It appears that the picture was taken inside the railroad shops which were in Huntingburg, Indiana during that era. The engines that I remember as a child during the 1930s were much larger than this one. Gerry -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 33969 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071216/5b3065f5/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1180 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 2:51 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
Who was reared as a Fundamentalist Baptist (Bob Jones University, '74). On Dec 16, 2007 9:53 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice try -- I am a Presbyterian who attends a Methodist church. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left
LOL... 1/2 Jew raised Southern Baptist who attends UMC (Methodist). From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:53:17 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Father R.M.Archer 4th from left Nice try -- I am a Presbyterian who attends a Methodist church. On Dec 16, 2007 9:17 PM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blessings on you, my son! (-:] Gerry From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] There for a moment I thought you were breaking the news that you are a priest. . On Dec 16, 2007 7:00 AM, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This picture of my father, R.M.Archer, was probably taken sometime before WW-1. Since he was wearing a uniform, (4th from left) he was probably working as a conductor on that run. It appears that the picture was taken inside the railroad shops which were in Huntingburg, Indiana during that era. The engines that I remember as a child during the 1930s were much larger than this one. Gerry -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 33969 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071216/5b30 65f5/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1180 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 2:51 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More light in instrument clusters
I 'caught the indie on another car... Don't charge me $38. for an instrument potentiometer when I know you just bypassed it! He replaced instrument panel lamps last week on one of the other cars. I notice a glow coming from the turn signal indicators now. From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:35:22 -0700 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] More light in instrument clusters On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 22:22:14 -0500 Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't gotten around to it, but there are very few things I won't run through the dishwasher! Couldn't hurt on the lense. You are right about those bulbs though! I'm just getting started on instrument panels! For those of you who have really dim W123 lights, you might want to line the light pipe and the bulb compartment with aluminum foil. The pictures attached show the process. The only difficult, fiddly thing is prying off the light pipe covers without breaking anything. It can be done. As someone told me about wheel bearings, you have all day to do it. With these modifications, my W123 instrument cluster lights are more than adequately bright. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: instrument.cluster.lighting.1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 161907 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071206/2281d 279/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: instrument.cluster.lighting.2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 170839 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071206/2281d 279/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: instrument.cluster.lighting.3.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 136794 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071206/2281d 279/attachment-0002.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
