Re: [MBZ] OT: Work travel
Ah, sounds like it's time to fly on Monday/Friday because "it is cheaper for the company" ;) Luther, can be contacted via email/cellphone when traveling Curt Raymond wrote: Hey, Quick off topic. Does anybody travel for work? We've just been informed that from now on we won't be getting any extra pay for weekend work, off shift work or weekend travel. Previously we'd been given comp days for weekend travel and differential pay for off-shift and weekend work. I *think* I'm an exempt employee which makes this all nicely legal although totally aggrevating. It doesn't affect me all that much but there are some folks here that will be pissed. Has anybody delt with this sort of thing before? Sounds like we're up the creek and short of leaving (not real likely in this environment) we have no way to fight it. We've basically been told this will happen or "There will be layoffs"... -Curt -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Work travel
yes they can. It's called unemployment. Luther, already doing "required" overtime Mitch Haley wrote: they can't dock you for short hours. Mitch. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] IBM Layoff
Relief that there are people out there worse off! :) Luther OK Don wrote: Looking for relief of their own problems, without formally acknowledging them. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: The above-average pay scale? On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:02 PM, OK Don wrote: It's long been held in mental health that those who are working in the field are there for a reason - -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] snowbound rodbender
did you get new tires for your trailer? Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: somebody needs to pick it up and store it for me. Luther wrote: You could get it during ChitownQ! Luther Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: hmmm, OK, I found out where. OK, maybe I am interested. Anybody close to this thing? I have an engine that would drop right in. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SD head
I R&R'd the head on my SDL with NO prior major engine disassembly/assembly experience and just the MB manual. It's not that tough if you are thorough and follow directions well. Luther Rich Thomas wrote: So is that gasket pretty straightforward to replace? Is getting the head off fairly easy? Then replacing gasket and putting head back on? I guess you would need to remove the chain and intake/exhaust then some other stuff, get the bolts off, then redo? Probably check the round on the cylinders while the head is off to see if it is starting to go bad? While head is off, replace rods? --R -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SD head
Or $600 shipped with cam and injectors for mine. Luther Peter Frederick wrote: Not too bad. Intake comes off, exhaust and turbo stay on. You cannot rotate the engine with the head off unless you want to re-time the cam and injection timer (you set it at TDC and leave it alone). New head bolts. Heads run $1500 to $2500 bare. Peter -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SD head
Or you can remove the turbo/exhaust manifold and use that chance to renew the gaskets. Luther Peter Frederick wrote: Not too bad. Intake comes off, exhaust and turbo stay on. You cannot rotate the engine with the head off unless you want to re-time the cam and injection timer (you set it at TDC and leave it alone). New head bolts. Heads run $1500 to $2500 bare. Peter -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SD and 115 300D and 123 300D/126SEL pkg -- ??s
DOWN BOY! Luther Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: where are you/said cars located? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Miscellaneous temptery
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:54:46 -0800 Jim Cathey wrote: > >> Going with the neighbor to the equipment auction tomorrow. > >> He's looking at a 3-pt snowblower. And a 190D 2.5 turbo. > > Is he the one doing all the looking? > > Officially! Well, let us know what you drag home ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SD head
Ha ha! Or in the case of my brother and I, you get to do both jobs because some monkey broke a stud or three putting the exhaust manifold on. That is a spring gasket, and you only tighten the (new) manifold nuts enough to compress it some, not flatten it, so that the spring effect will keep it sealed hot and cold. Not only does it leak if you squash it flat, but the little studs will get overstressed and fracture eventually. I had to replace the gasket (and a stud) on mine when I replaced the head gasket (should have replaced the head, though -- it was bad too), but my brother was attempting to just replace the little accordian section on his manifold and found you have to take it all off -- and found a broken stud. Ended up doing a head gasket on the SDL -- a very good thing, since it was leaking on the front at #1 and was blown between #3 and #4 -- AND on his 300E at the same time since it started blowing coolant out the side. Quite a week over there! Peter On Mar 7, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Luther wrote: Or you can remove the turbo/exhaust manifold and use that chance to renew the gaskets. Luther Peter Frederick wrote: Not too bad. Intake comes off, exhaust and turbo stay on. You cannot rotate the engine with the head off unless you want to re- time the cam and injection timer (you set it at TDC and leave it alone). New head bolts. Heads run $1500 to $2500 bare. Peter -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SD head
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:02:53 -0600 Peter Frederick wrote: > Ended up doing a head gasket on the SDL -- a very good thing, since it > was leaking on the front at #1 and was blown between #3 and #4 -- AND > on his 300E at the same time since it started blowing coolant out the > side. Quite a week over there! Boy, that kept you hopping! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SD head
Yeah, it was one of those things. One car after another dead in the drive. We had to put a new IP on his 76 300D, too. I'm actually glad I didn't put the head on the 300D, as some idiot ran a traffic light on the highway a few months later and totaled it for me. Still have the engine, though, and I think it's OK -- nice to have a spare. Peter On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:02:53 -0600 Peter Frederick wrote: Ended up doing a head gasket on the SDL -- a very good thing, since it was leaking on the front at #1 and was blown between #3 and #4 -- AND on his 300E at the same time since it started blowing coolant out the side. Quite a week over there! Boy, that kept you hopping! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] 350SD and 115 300D and 123 300D/126SEL pkg -- ??s
Rich Thomas wrote: Thanks for that info. I have a large TODO pile too, and wifey is not real tolerant of more additions to the 6 on site. She loves the new 300SD, this 350SD is much much nicer even, I'm wondering if I could tempt her This thing is tempting for a Kleb kind of price. Even if the 350 goes bad, I'm guessing a 300turbo would fit in there well (and I have a Chevy 350 lump and tranny that would be a 350 swap!) so that could be a fallback. A good-engine 350SD would be a very nice car. Only 2,000 built; the only 126 rarer than that is the 560SE with 1,251 built. For $800, it is hard to go wrong. Even if it isn't worth messing with engine-wise, the '90/'91 interior, trim, wheels, and whatnot will make for a wonderful upgrade to the '84, which will make the wife happy, and then you'll have a bunch of parts to sell for well over the $800 you paid for it. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SD and 115 300D and 123 300D/126SEL pkg -- ??s
Near Charleston SC --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: where are you/said cars located? Rich Thomas wrote: There is this auto repair place nearby, always busy. Has a yard with some junkers, and more better cars parked in back. I see some fairly nice looking older Benzes there, have been there for awhile. I stopped to talk to the owner, ask if they are parts cars, customer cars, cars for sale, or what. He says sorta some of all the above. So I go looking around, there is a very nice 350SD (not SDL) there parked in back. Then a 300D with so-so dk blue paint and a very nice dk blue interior, looked pretty good. Then out in the boneyard is a 115 300D, paint faded badly but body/chrome in very good condition, all the bits there (incl some extra lights in front -- fogs?) interior ratty. And an SEL. So I go in to ask about these cars. 350SD has a blown head gasket, AC needs a bit of freon once a year, customer did not want to pay to have it fixed so there it sits. Ask him how much he would take for it (it is a VERY nice looking car). He says a $1000 would be a fair price. I ask him about the rodbender engine, he claims not to know about that, but this one starts and runs well other than the cooling system gets pressurized. Hm. I have never seen just the SD, it is just like the one I just bought, but much much nicer. H. He says the guy who has the 300D wants $1500 for it, which seemed fairly reasonable, and there was another Benz there, a 126? SEL I think that sorta ran but was in half decent shape, said he would sell both as a pkg, not that I want them but the SEL could be a good parts car I guess. He says the 115 was running fine but the blower resistor overheated and caught fire, burned under the dash or something, guy didn't want to fool with it, so it got parked in the boneyard but has not been stripped or anything. He was gonna find out what the owner might take for it, if anyone is interested in that car it looked pretty solid but nasty paint and interior but mostly very nice chrome and other bits. I figure it for crusher cost+a bit maybe. So, anyway, if anyone has any interest... I am thinking about this 350SD. It was very clean, silver with the light gray interior, looked well-taken care of (there are some people around here with lots of Benzes and money, some very nice cars). Didn't check the miles. Assuming it is just the head gasket and not a cracked head (is that a problem on these cars? could it be the head not the gasket?), that wouldn't be much problem to fix, right? And if it is running half well, drive it till the rodbender starts to act up, or even do a pre-emptive rod job now? I vaguely recall some discussion of that procedure -- how hard would that be? I am thinking that for $800 (if I beat on the guy a bit) or $1000 and some parts and a bit of time, a very nice car could be running. What say y'all? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Work travel
Everybody else in the group is getting a Blackberry and I've resisted since I don't really need one but dammit now I'm getting one, it'll cost the company probably double what my current phone costs but... -Curt Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:54:23 -0600 From: Luther Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Work travel To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <49b27c8f.3010...@gulseth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Ah, sounds like it's time to fly on Monday/Friday because "it is cheaper for the company" ;) Luther, can be contacted via email/cellphone when traveling Curt Raymond wrote: > Hey, > > Quick off topic. Does anybody travel for work? We've just been informed that from now on we won't be getting any extra pay for weekend work, off shift work or weekend travel. Previously we'd been given comp days for weekend travel and differential pay for off-shift and weekend work. > > I *think* I'm an exempt employee which makes this all nicely legal although totally aggrevating. It doesn't affect me all that much but there are some folks here that will be pissed. Has anybody delt with this sort of thing before? Sounds like we're up the creek and short of leaving (not real likely in this environment) we have no way to fight it. > > We've basically been told this will happen or "There will be layoffs"... > > > > -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090307/9290226f/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SD head
Use Hylomar on the replacement head gasket. Be careful when you turn the engine by hand, the spring on the vacuum pump causes it to lurch forward. Remove the pump if it's a problem. You can do the head/head-gasket with the car in the engine. You'd have to pull it to replace the connecting rods. It comes out with the transmission - you can't get to all the bolts connecting the two with it in the car. It might be possible to disassemble the front suspension enough to get the oil pan off to get at the crankshaft. Probably be more work than pulling the engine. Rods were $190 apiece when I did mine. No reason to replace the head bolts if their length is within tolerance. They stretch when they go bad. I had to replace 3 of them as I recall. You need to be prudent with what you replace, otherwise you will spend thousands to replace good parts "just in case". -Dave Walton On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: > So is that gasket pretty straightforward to replace? Is getting the head > off fairly easy? Then replacing gasket and putting head back on? I guess > you would need to remove the chain and intake/exhaust then some other stuff, > get the bolts off, then redo? Probably check the round on the cylinders > while the head is off to see if it is starting to go bad? While head is > off, replace rods? > > --R > > Peter Frederick wrote: >> >> Overheating will kill any OM603 head. More likely a dead head gasket -- >> they only last about 200,000 miles, >> >> Peter >> >> On Mar 6, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> He says the 115 was running fine but the blower resistor overheated and caught fire, burned under the dash or something, >>> >>> The blower resistor pack is inside the air intake plenum, under >>> the grille. The connector on the firewall goes to it. Nothing >>> there to catch fire except the resistor pack itself, which is >>> metal, and its plastic connector. And the cable over to the >>> blower motor, of course! >>> >>> Unless, of course, that it was something else and _was_ under >>> the dash. That could be a mess. >>> thinking that for $800 (if I beat on the guy a bit) or $1000 and some parts and a bit of time, a very nice car could be running. >>> >>> That could be OK. It's all about price and effort. But that >>> kind of territory, if the car is otherwise nice and you realistically >>> could put it right enough to drive (you should see my to-be-done pile!) >>> then you can have a pretty nice ride for not so much that way. >>> >>> I thought the cracking head problem had been dealt with by >>> the rodbender era, so the chances of a cracked head are down >>> to 'normal'. Unless it got overheated at all. >>> >>> -- Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SD and 115 300D and 123 300D/126SEL pkg -- ??s
Tell me more about these 560 SE's please ?? Were these all Euro spec cars? Ed 300E 2009/3/7 Tom Savage > Rich Thomas wrote: > >> Thanks for that info. I have a large TODO pile too, and wifey is not real >> tolerant of more additions to the 6 on site. She loves the new 300SD, this >> 350SD is much much nicer even, I'm wondering if I could tempt her This >> thing is tempting for a Kleb kind of price. Even if the 350 goes bad, I'm >> guessing a 300turbo would fit in there well (and I have a Chevy 350 lump and >> tranny that would be a 350 swap!) so that could be a fallback. >> > > A good-engine 350SD would be a very nice car. Only 2,000 built; the only > 126 rarer than that is the 560SE with 1,251 built. > > For $800, it is hard to go wrong. Even if it isn't worth messing with > engine-wise, the '90/'91 interior, trim, wheels, and whatnot will make for a > wonderful upgrade to the '84, which will make the wife happy, and then > you'll have a bunch of parts to sell for well over the $800 you paid for it. > > Tom > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090307/c34a5894/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SD head
Replace the head bolts -- they very rarely stay short enough the second time, and the result will be what I had -- a leaking head gasket. If any are definitely too long, condemn the whole set. They aren't anywhere near as expensive as doing the job again in a couple years. Peter On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:26 AM, dave walton wrote: Use Hylomar on the replacement head gasket. Be careful when you turn the engine by hand, the spring on the vacuum pump causes it to lurch forward. Remove the pump if it's a problem. You can do the head/head-gasket with the car in the engine. You'd have to pull it to replace the connecting rods. It comes out with the transmission - you can't get to all the bolts connecting the two with it in the car. It might be possible to disassemble the front suspension enough to get the oil pan off to get at the crankshaft. Probably be more work than pulling the engine. Rods were $190 apiece when I did mine. No reason to replace the head bolts if their length is within tolerance. They stretch when they go bad. I had to replace 3 of them as I recall. You need to be prudent with what you replace, otherwise you will spend thousands to replace good parts "just in case". -Dave Walton On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: So is that gasket pretty straightforward to replace? Is getting the head off fairly easy? Then replacing gasket and putting head back on? I guess you would need to remove the chain and intake/exhaust then some other stuff, get the bolts off, then redo? Probably check the round on the cylinders while the head is off to see if it is starting to go bad? While head is off, replace rods? --R Peter Frederick wrote: Overheating will kill any OM603 head. More likely a dead head gasket -- they only last about 200,000 miles, Peter On Mar 6, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: He says the 115 was running fine but the blower resistor overheated and caught fire, burned under the dash or something, The blower resistor pack is inside the air intake plenum, under the grille. The connector on the firewall goes to it. Nothing there to catch fire except the resistor pack itself, which is metal, and its plastic connector. And the cable over to the blower motor, of course! Unless, of course, that it was something else and _was_ under the dash. That could be a mess. thinking that for $800 (if I beat on the guy a bit) or $1000 and some parts and a bit of time, a very nice car could be running. That could be OK. It's all about price and effort. But that kind of territory, if the car is otherwise nice and you realistically could put it right enough to drive (you should see my to-be-done pile!) then you can have a pretty nice ride for not so much that way. I thought the cracking head problem had been dealt with by the rodbender era, so the chances of a cracked head are down to 'normal'. Unless it got overheated at all. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SD and 115 300D and 123 300D/126SEL pkg -- ??s
E M wrote: Tell me more about these 560 SE's please ?? Were these all Euro spec cars? I think the 560 was a US spec engine, and they would be called 500 SE elsewhere. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SD and 115 300D and 123 300D/126SEL pkg -- ??s
I've heard of a number of 500 SE cars, never heard of a short wheelbase 560 though. I know they were never offered in Canada, not sure about other countries though? Ed 300E 2009/3/7 Mitch Haley > E M wrote: > >> Tell me more about these 560 SE's please ?? Were these all Euro spec >> cars? >> > > I think the 560 was a US spec engine, and they would be called 500 SE > elsewhere. > > Mitch. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090307/6ec86dcb/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 560SE
E M wrote: Tell me more about these 560 SE's please ?? Were these all Euro spec cars? Not much to tell. They were Europe-only and just a SWB 126 with the 117.968. Body 126.038. They must have been real hot rods with the weight savings over the LWB and spartan Euro amenities, but I don't know how they compare to an SEC. Most or all were probably the 300hp non-cat ECE engines. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SD and 115 300D and 123 300D/126SEL pkg -- ??s
Mitch Haley wrote: I think the 560 was a US spec engine, and they would be called 500 SE elsewhere. 560SL was only for the US and Australia, but the 126 coupe and LWB sedan got the 5.6 in Europe and elsewhere from 1985-1991 (SE was 1988-1990). The 5.0 was also available elsewhere alongside the 5.6 until the end of production in 1991. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] snowbound rodbender
Yes, I did, Im hoping I have time to install them this weekend. I got 4 brand new douglas whatever tires from walmart. They seem pretty decent, they are just regular car tires but I went up to 215's and that increased the load rating of them to close to what the regular trailer tires are, and I can blow them up to 44psi so they should be fine and last much longer than regular trailer tires Luther wrote: did you get new tires for your trailer? Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: somebody needs to pick it up and store it for me. Luther wrote: You could get it during ChitownQ! Luther Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: hmmm, OK, I found out where. OK, maybe I am interested. Anybody close to this thing? I have an engine that would drop right in. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1988 - Release Date: 03/06/09 19:17:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SD and 115 300D and 123 300D/126SEL pkg -- ??s
way too far Rich Thomas wrote: Near Charleston SC --R -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] trans pressure guage
looking around for a guage to use for trans pressure. How high does said guage need to go? Is 100psi enough? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] RE '95 E300D
Ralph: I had the same experience as Jan Gurthrie. The wiring harness and fuel system o-rings are subject to failure starting at about the 10 year-old age. I'm now on my second E-300D. I gave the first one to my son about a 1-1/2 ago and he subsequently traded it in for a new car. That one had about 380k miles on the odo and still ran very strong. But the chasis was failing. The blower and air conditioner no longer worked, windshield cracked, water leaked into the interior, rust starting to show everywhere. That one spent all its time in the Great Lakes area. The second copy, I am now driving is just the opposite. Car Fax said it came from Texas. At 188K miles, the chasis is still like new, and mechanically, I think it is still sound. But, as I wrote in recent postings, it is not running well. These cars have a very complicated active air plenum / fuel injection / EGR system. If anything messes up in that system, you can pull you hair out trying to isolate the problem. And until you solve it, the car runs, but like a POS. The vast majortity of the time, these '95 diesels have no problems and they run like beasts. While geting >30 mpg they accelerate, brake and handle very well. Over the years, I experienced a few expensive repairs. As noted, the engine wiring harness insulation degrades and needs replacement. (The fuel system o-rings are a PITA but inexpensive.) I had to replace a catalyst (yes this diesel has one) and exhaust system at the cost of about $2000. The vacuum pump is subject to sudden and catastrophic failure. If you buy the car, immediately replace it so you don't have to worry about it. The sunroof can fail and costs up to $2000 to repair at a dealer. (Or you can live without a functional sunroof). Don't let that last paragraph scare you off. Those are just issue to check in deterniming the price. I drove two used copies almost 300k miles to experience those problems. And these are fantastic cars to drive. What are you going to buy that will do better than that. Cheers, Ned Kleinhenz -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090307/e6551873/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RE '95 E300D
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 13:46:00 -0500 ned kleinhenz wrote: > Ralph: > I had the same experience as Jan Gurthrie. Jan Gurthrie, or Jan Guthrie? > I drove two used copies almost 300k miles to experience those problems. > And these are fantastic cars to drive. What are you going to buy that > will do better than that. That last sentence, which I presume is a question, is a very good one. The answer to that, I'm sure, is, "Not much." Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] alternator/brush questions
You may remember that I suspected that my alternator was going out on my 300D. A couple of weeks ago the alternator warning lamp came on, dim at first then brighter. I continued to work, and when I drove the car at lunchtime the lamp did not come on. On the way home that evening it came on again. Also, when temps are cold I had been noticing a noise that I initially suspected was the turbo but now am thinking maybe it was the alternator. I pulled it today, and rotating it by hand there is some noise though it turns smoothly. Is that normal? I removed the brush set and they don't look to me like they are worn far enough to not make contact. The shaft that they rub against does seem pretty worn however, there are definite grooves worn where the brushes ride. Again, not sure if this is normal. Thinking I'll take it over to Autozone and have them test it, unless this description is enough to draw any conclusions. Thanks, Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SD head
All of my head bolts were at the minimum length or no more than 2mm longer. The engine had 271kmi on it when I R&R'd the head. Luther Peter Frederick wrote: Replace the head bolts -- they very rarely stay short enough the second time, and the result will be what I had -- a leaking head gasket. If any are definitely too long, condemn the whole set. They aren't anywhere near as expensive as doing the job again in a couple years. Peter -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - Sunny
Sunny, 81F here today. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] alternator/brush questions
Don't forget that the brushes unit is also the voltage regulator. I like to check the voltage output with my multimeter at the battery while the engine is running. If the voltage is about 14 volts then the alternator/brushes/regulator should be ok. Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300DT (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 11:53 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] alternator/brush questions You may remember that I suspected that my alternator was going out on my 300D. A couple of weeks ago the alternator warning lamp came on, dim at first then brighter. I continued to work, and when I drove the car at lunchtime the lamp did not come on. On the way home that evening it came on again. Also, when temps are cold I had been noticing a noise that I initially suspected was the turbo but now am thinking maybe it was the alternator. I pulled it today, and rotating it by hand there is some noise though it turns smoothly. Is that normal? I removed the brush set and they don't look to me like they are worn far enough to not make contact. The shaft that they rub against does seem pretty worn however, there are definite grooves worn where the brushes ride. Again, not sure if this is normal. Thinking I'll take it over to Autozone and have them test it, unless this description is enough to draw any conclusions. Thanks, Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sunny
All that means is next week it could be 33F and sleeting.It's 65F here, sunny. Just got done with an oil change, fan shroud replacement on the '77 300D Bob R On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Wilton Strickland wrote: > Sunny, 81F here today. > > Wilton > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090307/d93d889e/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SD head
That might be OK, but one of mine broke from corrosion due to the bad head gasket leaking into the bolt hole, so I replaced them all. Peter On Mar 7, 2009, at 1:58 PM, Luther wrote: All of my head bolts were at the minimum length or no more than 2mm longer. The engine had 271kmi on it when I R&R'd the head. Luther Peter Frederick wrote: Replace the head bolts -- they very rarely stay short enough the second time, and the result will be what I had -- a leaking head gasket. If any are definitely too long, condemn the whole set. They aren't anywhere near as expensive as doing the job again in a couple years. Peter -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sunny
72 F and blowing like hell, so I'm not going to get to plant carrots, turnips, and onion seed as I had planned. My neighbor wants to plant his own garden. Peter On Mar 7, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Wilton Strickland wrote: Sunny, 81F here today. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sunny
I'd love to have a garden here but I never succeed in growing anything here on the surface of the sun... Bob R On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > 72 F and blowing like hell, so I'm not going to get to plant carrots, > turnips, and onion seed as I had planned. > > My neighbor wants to plant his own garden. > > Peter > > > On Mar 7, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Wilton Strickland wrote: > > Sunny, 81F here today. >> >> Wilton >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ------ next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090307/d35d3575/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350SD head
Ah, yes, I had one that was a B!^(# to get out for that same reason. Wire brush on the grinder and it cleaned up and spun all the way in by hand with no effort and no lube. Luther Peter Frederick wrote: That might be OK, but one of mine broke from corrosion due to the bad head gasket leaking into the bolt hole, so I replaced them all. Peter On Mar 7, 2009, at 1:58 PM, Luther wrote: All of my head bolts were at the minimum length or no more than 2mm longer. The engine had 271kmi on it when I R&R'd the head. Luther -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sunny
Possible; not likely. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Bob Rentfro" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sunny > All that means is next week it could be 33F and sleeting.It's 65F here, > sunny. Just got done with an oil change, fan shroud replacement on the '77 > 300D > Bob R > > > > On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Wilton Strickland wrote: > > > Sunny, 81F here today. > > > > Wilton > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090307/d9 3d889e/attachment.html> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Work travel
This is definitly the time that employees really get pushed to the limit. Those of us still working, don't really want to rock the boar using the good old - glad we have a job type feelings. But I'm definitly feeling a little used and abbused. On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Luther wrote: > Ah, sounds like it's time to fly on Monday/Friday because "it is cheaper > for the company" ;) > > Luther, can be contacted via email/cellphone when traveling > > Curt Raymond wrote: > >> Hey, >> >> Quick off topic. Does anybody travel for work? We've just been informed >> that from now on we won't be getting any extra pay for weekend work, off >> shift work or weekend travel. Previously we'd been given comp days for >> weekend travel and differential pay for off-shift and weekend work. >> >> I *think* I'm an exempt employee which makes this all nicely legal >> although totally aggrevating. It doesn't affect me all that much but there >> are some folks here that will be pissed. Has anybody delt with this sort of >> thing before? Sounds like we're up the creek and short of leaving (not real >> likely in this environment) we have no way to fight it. >> >> We've basically been told this will happen or "There will be layoffs"... >> >> >> >> -Curt >> > -- > Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark > '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) > '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast > '82 300CD (183 kmi) > '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold > '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090307/a8b69011/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RE '95 E300D
The '90 to '93 300D 2.5Turbo? - Doesn't have the auto disintegrating wiring harness, but a little bit less power, and 2 or 3 mpg less fuel mileage, though still over 30 on the highway. > > I drove two used copies almost 300k miles to experience those problems. > > And these are fantastic cars to drive. What are you going to buy that > > will do better than that. > > That last sentence, which I presume is a question, is a very good one. The > answer to that, I'm sure, is, "Not much." > > -- OK Don W124 Diesels Ubuntu 8.10 KD5NRO -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090307/7523daa7/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mercy...Haven't Seen too many of These
Sweet http://santafe.craigslist.org/cto/1061700386.html Bob R -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090307/8fd1886b/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercy...Haven't Seen too many of These
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:44:41 -0700 Bob Rentfro wrote: > Sweet > > http://santafe.craigslist.org/cto/1061700386.html Right in my backyard. With California plates. A little rich for me at $5900, though. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: wish this were 200 miles closer...
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Work travel
Years ago one of my employers tried this stunt with those of us who traveled extensively. In my case, I made my own schedule with the customers, so I just started telling them I couldn't be at their site until Monday afternoons (or later) and had to leave on Friday mornings. Since they were often being charged for 5 days of consulting, this did not sit well. Word got back (at least to my manager, who was a former traveler and pissed about the edict himself, knowing how unfair it was) and suddenly I started getting comp time again. Dan --- On Sat, 3/7/09, Curt Raymond wrote: > From: Curt Raymond > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Work travel > To: "Diesel List" > Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 12:24 PM > Everybody else in the group is > getting a Blackberry and I've resisted since I don't really > need one but dammit now I'm getting one, it'll cost the > company probably double what my current phone costs but... > > -Curt > > Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:54:23 -0600 > From: Luther > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Work travel > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Message-ID: <49b27c8f.3010...@gulseth.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > format=flowed > > Ah, sounds like it's time to fly on Monday/Friday because > "it is cheaper > for the company" ;) > > Luther, can be contacted via email/cellphone when > traveling > > Curt Raymond wrote: > > Hey, > > > > > Quick off topic. Does anybody travel for work? We've just > been informed > that from now on we won't be getting any extra pay for > weekend work, > off shift work or weekend travel. Previously we'd been > given comp days > for weekend travel and differential pay for off-shift and > weekend work. > > > > > I *think* I'm an exempt employee which makes this all > nicely legal > although totally aggrevating. It doesn't affect me all that > much but > there are some folks here that will be pissed. Has anybody > delt with > this sort of thing before? Sounds like we're up the creek > and short of > leaving (not real likely in this environment) we have no > way to fight > it. > > > > We've basically been told this will happen or "There > will be layoffs"... > > > > > > > > -Curt > > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090307/9290226f/attachment.html> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sunny
Currently sunny and 73F here in Indianapolis. A glorious day! Dan --- On Sat, 3/7/09, Wilton Strickland wrote: > From: Wilton Strickland > Subject: [MBZ] OT - Sunny > To: "mercedes" > Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 2:56 PM > Sunny, 81F here today. > > Wilton > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Maybe the Epitome of Beater
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[MBZ] 190D tranny update
Well I changed the fluid and filter today, no change, still will not upshift. When I pulled the pan, there was a little sliver of white plastic in there, not sure what that was or where it came from. So I guess I need to find me some guages to check the pressure on it. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe the Epitome of Beater
Pug not included I take it. lol Ed 300E 2009/3/7 Bob Rentfro > Awesome... > > *http://tinyurl.com/ab9g4g* > > Bob R > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090307/401b5396/attachment.html > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090307/62aab99a/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D tranny update
Start driving that 560 and enjoy the current gas prices. ;-) Ed 300E 2009/3/7 Kaleb C. Striplin > Well I changed the fluid and filter today, no change, still will not > upshift. When I pulled the pan, there was a little sliver of white plastic > in there, not sure what that was or where it came from. So I guess I need > to find me some guages to check the pressure on it. > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, > 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, > 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090307/91bd8c03/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I am stupid
So about a year ago I put a ("new") used brake booster on the 300TD
after spending a lot of time chasing a no-brake-boost problem, and
finally decided it was the brake booster after huge amounts of effort on
that. Put on a new one and it was fine. So a few weeks ago same
problem, and no shutoff, I figured the used booster I put on had crapped
out too. Ordered one from the list mom, put it on last weekend, still
no brake boost. sh*t. So today I put the previous one back on and
started chasing vac problems again with the vac meter, and by isolating
things it seems to be related to the lock system (they have never really
worked) or something else not very critical, maybe in the HVAC system
(which is not working either for some time. I plugged off one tee going
to the locks, have a bit better vac now but still not what it should be,
and the car will shut off when I rev it a bit. Brakes seem to be OK,
but I gotta bleed them now, again.
So Occam's razor proves correct once again, I should have taken a look
at that first. But I am really good now at changing brake boosters and
master cylinders, in particular that last nut way up under the pedal
bracket that you have to contort to get at.
--R
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Re: [MBZ] I am stupid
You do know what the acronym ASSUME stands for, don't you?
Thanks,
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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 5:39 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] I am stupid
So about a year ago I put a ("new") used brake booster on the 300TD
after spending a lot of time chasing a no-brake-boost problem, and
finally decided it was the brake booster after huge amounts of effort on
that. Put on a new one and it was fine. So a few weeks ago same
problem, and no shutoff, I figured the used booster I put on had crapped
out too. Ordered one from the list mom, put it on last weekend, still
no brake boost. sh*t. So today I put the previous one back on and
started chasing vac problems again with the vac meter, and by isolating
things it seems to be related to the lock system (they have never really
worked) or something else not very critical, maybe in the HVAC system
(which is not working either for some time. I plugged off one tee going
to the locks, have a bit better vac now but still not what it should be,
and the car will shut off when I rev it a bit. Brakes seem to be OK,
but I gotta bleed them now, again.
So Occam's razor proves correct once again, I should have taken a look
at that first. But I am really good now at changing brake boosters and
master cylinders, in particular that last nut way up under the pedal
bracket that you have to contort to get at.
--R
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Re: [MBZ] I am stupid
I was just sitting out on the porch with my evening beverage, and told
my wife exactly that. She said, "You never do that kind of thing, why
did you do it this time?" Uh, cause I was stupid.
--R
Tom Hargrave wrote:
You do know what the acronym ASSUME stands for, don't you?
Thanks,
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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 5:39 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] I am stupid
So about a year ago I put a ("new") used brake booster on the 300TD
after spending a lot of time chasing a no-brake-boost problem, and
finally decided it was the brake booster after huge amounts of effort on
that. Put on a new one and it was fine. So a few weeks ago same
problem, and no shutoff, I figured the used booster I put on had crapped
out too. Ordered one from the list mom, put it on last weekend, still
no brake boost. sh*t. So today I put the previous one back on and
started chasing vac problems again with the vac meter, and by isolating
things it seems to be related to the lock system (they have never really
worked) or something else not very critical, maybe in the HVAC system
(which is not working either for some time. I plugged off one tee going
to the locks, have a bit better vac now but still not what it should be,
and the car will shut off when I rev it a bit. Brakes seem to be OK,
but I gotta bleed them now, again.
So Occam's razor proves correct once again, I should have taken a look
at that first. But I am really good now at changing brake boosters and
master cylinders, in particular that last nut way up under the pedal
bracket that you have to contort to get at.
--R
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe the Epitome of Beater
Awesome... *http://tinyurl.com/ab9g4g* Wow, makes the Frankenheap look _good_! And that's not easy to do. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am stupid
Rich - you appear to be a very lucky man - my wife never would have
hesitated to point out that this type of thing seems to happen frequently,
and you can buy two Kias for the price of one Mercedes transmission.
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
> I was just sitting out on the porch with my evening beverage, and told my
> wife exactly that. She said, "You never do that kind of thing, why did you
> do it this time?" Uh, cause I was stupid.
>
> --R
>
>
> Tom Hargrave wrote:
>
>> You do know what the acronym ASSUME stands for, don't you?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom Hargrave
>> www.kegkits.com
>> 256-656-1924
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
>> ]
>> On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 5:39 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: [MBZ] I am stupid
>>
>> So about a year ago I put a ("new") used brake booster on the 300TD after
>> spending a lot of time chasing a no-brake-boost problem, and finally decided
>> it was the brake booster after huge amounts of effort on that. Put on a new
>> one and it was fine. So a few weeks ago same problem, and no shutoff, I
>> figured the used booster I put on had crapped out too. Ordered one from the
>> list mom, put it on last weekend, still no brake boost. sh*t. So today I
>> put the previous one back on and started chasing vac problems again with the
>> vac meter, and by isolating things it seems to be related to the lock system
>> (they have never really worked) or something else not very critical, maybe
>> in the HVAC system (which is not working either for some time. I plugged
>> off one tee going to the locks, have a bit better vac now but still not what
>> it should be, and the car will shut off when I rev it a bit. Brakes seem to
>> be OK, but I gotta bleed them now, again.
>>
>> So Occam's razor proves correct once again, I should have taken a look at
>> that first. But I am really good now at changing brake boosters and master
>> cylinders, in particular that last nut way up under the pedal bracket that
>> you have to contort to get at.
>>
>> --R
>>
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Re: [MBZ] alternator/brush questions
OK I took the alternator to AutoZone and had it tested. The guy thought it was awfully noisy, but it did pass the electrical test. Of course, since my alternator lamp is only on intermittently, that does not really mean anything right? Only that it was working at that moment. I declined their $100 "guaranteed forever" alternator since it was not in stock. Thinking I should just order one from Rusty and be done with it? Allan -- 1983 300D Allan Streib writes: > You may remember that I suspected that my alternator was going out on my > 300D. > > A couple of weeks ago the alternator warning lamp came on, dim at first > then brighter. I continued to work, and when I drove the car at > lunchtime the lamp did not come on. On the way home that evening it > came on again. > > Also, when temps are cold I had been noticing a noise that I initially > suspected was the turbo but now am thinking maybe it was the alternator. > > I pulled it today, and rotating it by hand there is some noise though it > turns smoothly. Is that normal? > > I removed the brush set and they don't look to me like they are worn far > enough to not make contact. The shaft that they rub against does seem > pretty worn however, there are definite grooves worn where the brushes > ride. Again, not sure if this is normal. > > Thinking I'll take it over to Autozone and have them test it, unless > this description is enough to draw any conclusions. > > Thanks, > > Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Miscellaneous temptery
Well, let us know what you drag home ... Only my sorry butt! The car was a private consignment, not a seizure or anything like that, so it was somebody trying to off their junk in a feeding frenzy environment. The car had many rust spots getting started, on the doors and the rear jack points. Couldn't get into the trunk. The seat springs were starting to feel odd. The blue dash was seriously cracked. Cigarette burns on the door panels. The engine was safe from rust as the whole passenger side was covered with black oil. Head gasket? The reservoir was quite dark looking. The tranny fluid looked and smelled normal, the only highlight. 230kmi. He (we) decided that it was too much of a project for what he was looking for, so we walked. It was bitterly cold, a bit below freezing but with quite a wind. Ugh. Wasn't worth braving the weather to see what it went for. If you ask me, it'll show up on Craigslist before too awful long. I did see a Mercury 50HP outboard of my vintage. Had it been an 85HP I would have stayed and bid on it. Lots of interesting junk, but nothing that crept over my threshold of 'no more'! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] alternator/brush questions
Thinking I should just order one from Rusty and be done with it? Or you can 'rebuild' yours for a bit less, and a bunch of work. I got the bearings for mine at a local electrical rebuild shop, they also turned the slip rings. You can get the VR/brush pack from Rusty. You'll end up spending your $100 that way, assuming local access to a suitable shop. No warrantee on going that way! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] alternator/brush questions
On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 20:20:30 -0500 Allan Streib wrote: > Thinking I should just order one from Rusty and be done with it? Sounds like it to me. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am stupid
Have you checked out the vacuum pump? A torn diaphragm can allow oil into
the booster, destroying it. It would cause the symptoms as you describe.
The rebuild kit is cheap and not too difficult. A disposable fuel filter
added in the vacuum line will reveal oil in the system. Booster can be
tested simply with a Mity-Vac or other vacuum tester.
I made a homebuilt tool to start the impossible-to-reach nut out of a piece
of copper tubing long enough to reach in and a short piece of rubber hose on
the end of the tubing to grip the nut.
Greg Fiorentino
'85 300SD
'80 240D 4 spd. manual
'79 300DT (with new crate engine)
'95 and '97 Crown Vics
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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 3:39 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] I am stupid
So about a year ago I put a ("new") used brake booster on the 300TD
after spending a lot of time chasing a no-brake-boost problem, and
finally decided it was the brake booster after huge amounts of effort on
that. Put on a new one and it was fine. So a few weeks ago same
problem, and no shutoff, I figured the used booster I put on had crapped
out too. Ordered one from the list mom, put it on last weekend, still
no brake boost. sh*t. So today I put the previous one back on and
started chasing vac problems again with the vac meter, and by isolating
things it seems to be related to the lock system (they have never really
worked) or something else not very critical, maybe in the HVAC system
(which is not working either for some time. I plugged off one tee going
to the locks, have a bit better vac now but still not what it should be,
and the car will shut off when I rev it a bit. Brakes seem to be OK,
but I gotta bleed them now, again.
So Occam's razor proves correct once again, I should have taken a look
at that first. But I am really good now at changing brake boosters and
master cylinders, in particular that last nut way up under the pedal
bracket that you have to contort to get at.
--R
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Re: [MBZ] alternator/brush questions
Craig McCluskey writes: > On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 20:20:30 -0500 Allan Streib > wrote: > >> Thinking I should just order one from Rusty and be done with it? > > Sounds like it to me. His web site lists Denso and Bosch, both remanufactured. The Denso is about $20 more. Why put a Japanese alternator on a German car? Or is it really better? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Miscellaneous temptery
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:32:07 -0800 Jim Cathey wrote: > Lots of interesting junk, but nothing that crept over my threshold of > 'no more'! No doubt your wife is pleased with your lack of acquisition. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] alternator/brush questions
On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 20:53:38 -0500 Allan Streib wrote: > His web site lists Denso and Bosch, both remanufactured. The Denso is > about $20 more. > > Why put a Japanese alternator on a German car? Or is it really better? Good questions. Remember, it's actually World Pac's website and Rusty doesn't have total control over what appears there (at least as I understand it). Give him a call Monday at (800) 741-5252 and ask him. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe the Epitome of Beater
That is "showroom condition" when compared to my 'new' pickup. On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > Awesome... >> *http://tinyurl.com/ab9g4g* >> > > Wow, makes the Frankenheap look _good_! And that's not easy to do. > > -- Jim > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090307/0b02a944/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Greetings [was: Re: I am stupid]
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:51:12 -0800 "Greg Fiorentino" wrote: > Have you checked out the vacuum pump? A torn diaphragm can allow oil > into the booster, destroying it. It would cause the symptoms as you > describe. The rebuild kit is cheap and not too difficult. A disposable > fuel filter added in the vacuum line will reveal oil in the system. > Booster can be tested simply with a Mity-Vac or other vacuum tester. > > I made a homebuilt tool to start the impossible-to-reach nut out of a > piece of copper tubing long enough to reach in and a short piece of > rubber hose on the end of the tubing to grip the nut. > > Greg Fiorentino > '85 300SD > '80 240D 4 spd. manual > '79 300DT (with new crate engine) > '95 and '97 Crown Vics Greg, I don't recall seeing you name on the list before today. Did you just join? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe the Epitome of Beater
Looks like a perfect Wonkomobile! At 08:10 PM 3/7/2009, you wrote: That is "showroom condition" when compared to my 'new' pickup. On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > Awesome... >> *http://tinyurl.com/ab9g4g* >> > > Wow, makes the Frankenheap look _good_! And that's not easy to do. > > -- Jim > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090307/0b02a944/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D tranny update
yea, its got its own problems that need to be resolved. In fact, I have been so lazy and not done anything with it, Im sure its got alot more problems now. E M wrote: Start driving that 560 and enjoy the current gas prices. ;-) Ed 300E 2009/3/7 Kaleb C. Striplin Well I changed the fluid and filter today, no change, still will not upshift. When I pulled the pan, there was a little sliver of white plastic in there, not sure what that was or where it came from. So I guess I need to find me some guages to check the pressure on it. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090307/91bd8c03/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1988 - Release Date: 03/06/09 19:17:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Greetings [was: Re: I am stupid]
I've been with this list only about a month, a Benz-head for many years. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 6:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Greetings [was: Re: I am stupid] On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:51:12 -0800 "Greg Fiorentino" wrote: > Have you checked out the vacuum pump? A torn diaphragm can allow oil > into the booster, destroying it. It would cause the symptoms as you > describe. The rebuild kit is cheap and not too difficult. A disposable > fuel filter added in the vacuum line will reveal oil in the system. > Booster can be tested simply with a Mity-Vac or other vacuum tester. > > I made a homebuilt tool to start the impossible-to-reach nut out of a > piece of copper tubing long enough to reach in and a short piece of > rubber hose on the end of the tubing to grip the nut. > > Greg Fiorentino > '85 300SD > '80 240D 4 spd. manual > '79 300DT (with new crate engine) > '95 and '97 Crown Vics Greg, I don't recall seeing you name on the list before today. Did you just join? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] alternator/brush questions
the glimmmering, off and on alt light is classic worn brush symptom. I'd try putting in new brush/VR set for $20 or less. Even if the slip rings are worn, it still may work a long time. I've only had one, on the 81 240D where the alt was too far gone. (of cars from 81 and newer) His web site lists Denso and Bosch, both remanufactured. The Denso is about $20 more. Why put a Japanese alternator on a German car? Or is it really better? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D tranny update
I think tomorrow I can get you the picture of that 1000 PSI gauge. At 08:26 PM 3/7/2009, you wrote: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] alternator/brush questions
My Dad's '85 300D is doing the same sort of things. The charging light would faintly glow at an idle. Changed out the brushes (they are 2-3 years old) with another set. That didn't change anything. *** Swapped in a different alt, and the charge light didn't glow but voltages at the battery were just a touch over 12v. That was 3hrs ago. I was thinking that there might be something else that's restricting the charge level below 1500rpm on Dad's car. That brought me here to ask for help and while typing this email I slapped myself (at the *** point) in the head when I realized that I didn't plug the alt back in. DOH! Charge voltage is now 13.4 at idle. Moral of this story is to always put everything back the way it came out. Allan, buy a rebuilt Bosch from Rusty. I'd suggest replacing the belts (all 4) while you're in there. That job is a PAIN on the 617 compared to the 603... -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D tranny update
ok Loren Faeth wrote: I think tomorrow I can get you the picture of that 1000 PSI gauge. At 08:26 PM 3/7/2009, you wrote: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Greetings [was: Re: I am stupid]
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 18:27:27 -0800 "Greg Fiorentino" wrote: > I've been with this list only about a month, a Benz-head for many years. Well, welcome! Craig --- Craig McCluskey Present: 1982 240D/3.0 (Euro 1984 617.912 engine, 4-speed) 250 kmi 1994 E420 117 kmi Past: 1964 190Dc 1972 220D/8 1972 220/8 1987 190E/2.3 /"\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN "Friends don't send friends X AGAINST HTML MAIL HTML email." / \ AND POSTINGS http://www.fred.net/tds/longrange.html http://pruffle.mit.edu/~ccarter/I_do_not_use_microsoft.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans pressure guage
Kaleb - What pressures are you measuring? If it just modulator pressure or are you measuring working pressure as well? Looking at my '83 TDM for 722.X trannys I see max modulator pressure of 4 bar (58 PSI) and max working pressures of 13.7 bar (200 PSI). Barry looking around for a guage to use for trans pressure. How high does said guage need to go? Is 100psi enough? -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe the Epitome of Beater
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: > Awesome... > > *http://tinyurl.com/ab9g4g* > Notice the location? Craig, AK is pretty far south in the Alaska panhandle, but still, if it starts there the compression must be fine, at least... Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: wish this were 200 miles closer...
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > http://columbus.craigslist.org/grd/1064827676.html > Deleted by author---what was it? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe the Epitome of Beater
I will have to watch reruns of Ice Road Truckers -- might see the car in the background. On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: > > Awesome... > > > > *http://tinyurl.com/ab9g4g* > > > > Notice the location? Craig, AK is pretty far south in the Alaska > panhandle, but still, if it starts there the compression must be fine, > at least... > > Alex > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090307/11c9ce0c/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] alternator/brush questions
Luther writes: > Moral of this story is to always put everything back the way it came > out. Allan, buy a rebuilt Bosch from Rusty. I'd suggest replacing the > belts (all 4) while you're in there. That job is a PAIN on the 617 > compared to the 603... I probably will. I would just try replacing the brushes, except the alternator is also noisy. And though it turns easily by hand, there is a feeling of something dragging or rubbing internally, along with the noise. I do have a full spare set of belts for the car, but the belts in service now are not really that old. Maybe a year or 18 months (gotta start writing down dates for this stuff). Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: wish this were 200 miles closer...
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: http://columbus.craigslist.org/grd/1064827676.html Deleted by author---what was it? An electric Wheel Horse garden tractor, with dead batteries, electric front mount mower deck, and electric snowblower, for $50. I saw it in the first half hour, but transportation would not have been convenient. I could have sold both my Cubs, bought new batteries for the Simplicity, and had hundreds of dollars left over. The paint was still shiny, and the accessories looked like new. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] alternator/brush questions
> > Luther writes: > > Allan, buy a rebuilt Bosch from Rusty. I'd > > suggest replacing the belts (all 4) while you're in there. > Allan wrote: > > I do have a full spare set of belts for the car, but the belts > in service now are not really that old. Maybe a year or 18 > months (gotta start writing down dates for this stuff). If it were me, since you have to pull them all off anyway, I would put the slightly used belts in the truck as spares and put new ones on the engine. Since the purpose of the spares is "just it case", I find "used, but still good" works well - and then I have less money tied up it parts. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Sunny
Bob Google "raised bed gardening". Many years ago, I made some for my Mother and she enjoyed gardening more than ever before. Having gardened all her life, she never got over how much she could produce in such a small space. Harry I'd love to have a garden here but I never succeed in growing anything here on the surface of the sun... Bob R On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: 72 F and blowing like hell, so I'm not going to get to plant carrots, turnips, and onion seed as I had planned. My neighbor wants to plant his own garden. Peter On Mar 7, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Wilton Strickland wrote: Sunny, 81F here today. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090307/d35d3575/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
