date:20090320

http://correctionville.govoffice2.com/

Ain't never been there, they tell me it's nice.

[Few will understand that.]

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Craig McCluskey  wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:05:05 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
>  wrote:
>
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/64-Chevy-1-ton-truck-hoist-Mercedes-diesel-automatic_W0QQitemZ260380784669QQihZ016QQcategoryZ63741QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
>
> > Correctionville, IA
>
> 102 miles from Jefferson. Was (is) there a Penitentiary there?
>
>
> > Someone put a Mercedes Diesel engine with automatic transmission in the
> > truck.
>
> Appropriate.
>
>
> > The transmission will not shift out of low gear.
>
> Wonder what type of transmission.
>
>
> > The cab looks good in pictures but is brush painted and there are some
> > patch panels where there was rust.
>
> Definitely a 25-footer. Maybe even 50-footer.
>
> When we lived in rural Colorado, we had a '64 Chevy 3/4 ton pickup. It
> looked the same from the front as this. Even the same shade of blue!
>
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Re: [MBZ] an idea -- and perhaps a stupid one (me being me)

Nope. I am his serf for two weeks. The "bring in your 240D" would have to be
his suggestion. I am more thinking that I will be doing wet sanding for 80
hours. I simply want to apprentice for two weeks then return to my day job,
but pick up the equivalent of what the local community college used to offer
as Body Repair. I certainly won't be doing this for a living ... or I don't
plan to (unless the bug bites me bad).

I see this more as a temporary training under a self-taught master, and you
can't normally buy that.

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> That should make the deal more palatable; if you mess up, it's not on
> something he needs to be concerned about. If you're helping him, though,
> he will want you to work on something he is concerned about, so don't just
> present it as, "show me how to work on my own cars."
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Re: [MBZ] truck for wacko

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:05:05 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:

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> Correctionville, IA

102 miles from Jefferson. Was (is) there a Penitentiary there?


> Someone put a Mercedes Diesel engine with automatic transmission in the
> truck. 

Appropriate.


> The transmission will not shift out of low gear.

Wonder what type of transmission.


> The cab looks good in pictures but is brush painted and there are some
> patch panels where there was rust.

Definitely a 25-footer. Maybe even 50-footer.

When we lived in rural Colorado, we had a '64 Chevy 3/4 ton pickup. It
looked the same from the front as this. Even the same shade of blue!



Craig

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Re: [MBZ] truck for wacko

I'm gonna be watching that auction -- but it appears someone was renting the
paint sprayer and wanted to get his money's worth by spraying everything
(including the motor).

About an hour from me.

2009/3/21 Kaleb C. Striplin 

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Re: [MBZ] an idea -- and perhaps a stupid one (me being me)

On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:37:34 -0500 Wonko the Sane 
wrote:

> What if I presented myself to the old guy ... and offered him a deal: I
> work free for him for two weeks, doing whatever he wants me to do to
> help him out IF he will teach me a few tricks: (1) basic welding, (2)
> basic body filler & sanding, and (3) how to mix paint to match faded
> Benz colors, and then spray it correctly.

Now that sounds like a stroke of genius! You can only lose by not asking.

> And maybe he will let me "train" on my own cars!

That should make the deal more palatable; if you mess up, it's not on
something he needs to be concerned about. If you're helping him, though,
he will want you to work on something he is concerned about, so don't just
present it as, "show me how to work on my own cars."

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Re: [MBZ] PT-658

On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:13:11 -0500 Wonko the Sane 
wrote:

> The "sailor" in me loved it.

I'm not a sailor, but I liked it, too.

When I was on active duty in the Air Force stationed at Tyndall AFB,
Panama City, Florida, we had two PT-type boats at the base (which was
bordered on two sides by water).


Craig

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[MBZ] truck for wacko

2009-03-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin


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 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2,
 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,
http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] Backup Light Sw Help Pls

Been there. I sure hope you have access to a lift, or can twist yourself
into a pretzel better than I can. (It was very accessible when the car was
up on a lift.)

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:28 PM, LarryT  wrote:

>
> Hoping to work on it tomorrow.  Sounds like the switch is on the side of
> the AT rather than under the dash/etc.
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[MBZ] an idea -- and perhaps a stupid one (me being me)

We have two body shops in Jefferson who specialize in collision
repairs.Always very busy. And another one, out in the country (if you can be
more "country" than Jefferson) owned by an older guy (in his late 60s) who
makes his living fixing up vintage cars for collectors. He works sort of
slow but is rumored to be a bit of a perfectionist.

Now, I have 120 hours of vacation available. I have had 120 hours of
vacation available for at least the last five years, since 120 hours is the
max we can carry and we get vacation time added on every paycheck. In other
words, I rarely take any vacation and just lose whatever is added on every
two weeks.

Here's what popped into my head while watching some basketball in the
kitchen.

I am a fairly intelligent individual, spent eight years in universities,
spent six years in the Coast Guard as a skilled technician (both avionics
and mechanics). I am good with my hands and know my way around tools. And I
am a bit anal when it comes to doing a task.

What if I presented myself to the old guy who fixes up vintage cars (I've
seen his work -- he is damn'd good -- worked on my brother-in-law's Edsel)
and offered him a deal: I work free for him for two weeks, doing whatever he
wants me to do to help him out (such as wet sanding primer or sweeping) IF
he will teach me a few tricks: (1) basic welding, (2) basic body filler &
sanding, and (3) how to mix paint to match faded Benz colors, and then spray
it correctly.

I will lose no income, since I have the vacation time available. He will get
someone to do the dirty work for two weeks, and, if he is the craftsman that
I think him to be, he will be happy to pass on a few secrets of the trade to
someone younger (by maybe a decade) who will carry on the tradition of
keeping old cars looking good. It isn't like I am going to take any business
away from him, because he already has more than he can handle.

I am pretty sure this guy isn't doing this for the money, but for the love
of old cars. And maybe he will let me "train" on my own cars!
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Re: [MBZ] PT-658

The "sailor" in me loved it.

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> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:35:19 EDT relng...@aol.com wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] wolf stoves,

2009-03-20 Thread LWB250


Propane provides about 2500 BTU for the same volume of natural gas that 
provides around 1000 BTU.

When it comes to gases, natural gas isn't terribly efficient in a lot of 
respects

Dan


--- On Fri, 3/20/09, andrew strasfogel  wrote:

> From: andrew strasfogel 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] wolf stoves,
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 11:41 PM
> Damn, I checked and you're
> right!  I always thought that my propane grille
> had less firepower than the natural gas range inside the
> house.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:47 PM, LWB250 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Uh, you've got that backwards.  Propane has a
> much higher BTU content than
> > natural gas, so if anything, it will burn hotter.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:15:16 -0700?
> > > From: Redghost ?
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT banned lite, Better not get
> hurt in
> > > war?
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> >
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> how to
> > > change it up so?
> > > that you can hook up LP. Going to take a very
> large Texas
> > > size?
> > > propane tank, a few less BTU, but all is good.
> Your new
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Re: [MBZ] wolf stoves,

Damn, I checked and you're right!  I always thought that my propane grille
had less firepower than the natural gas range inside the house.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:47 PM, LWB250  wrote:

>
> Uh, you've got that backwards.  Propane has a much higher BTU content than
> natural gas, so if anything, it will burn hotter.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:15:16 -0700?
> > From: Redghost ?
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT banned lite, Better not get hurt in
> > war?
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List ?
> > Message-ID: ?
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed;
> > delsp=yes?
>
> > AS for powering the stove, just ask around for how to
> > change it up so?
> > that you can hook up LP. Going to take a very large Texas
> > size?
> > propane tank, a few less BTU, but all is good. Your new
> > pickem up?
> > should be able to haul it all home.?
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Re: [MBZ] PT-658

On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:35:19 EDT relng...@aol.com wrote:

> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7693407296698216570&ei=3mPQSMCOIKO6gAP&cgsC

Quite a story!


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Re: [MBZ] Backup Light Sw Help Pls

2009-03-20 Thread Fmiser

> Jim Cathey wrote:

> Stickshift?  On the side of the shift mechanism up top,
> probably.  If it's anything like my 115.

On both of my W123s its visible (and nominally accessible) with
the shifter boot and console "deck" removed. Positioned at the
end of the shaft that slides left/right when in neutral, on the
port (left) side.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Backup Light Sw Help Pls

2009-03-20 Thread LarryT


Thanks Jim -
It's a Automatic Floor shift - I didn't mention it but the park/neutral 
lockout is giving minor problems also (bumping the shift lever makes it 
work) and since the BU lights and AntiStart switch are 
inter-related/together, I am hoping the switch has loosened and will only 
require tightening.  (fingers crosses).


Hoping to work on it tomorrow.  Sounds like the switch is on the side of the 
AT rather than under the dash/etc.


Will try to report on progress Sunday - perhaps with some photos.  I was 
unable to find any info in the FActory WSM's (paper ones), the CD or Haynes 
(I tend to try to find all info I can) ;-) so perhaps others are in the dark 
like I was?


Later don't forget - the 12H of Sebring starts tomorrow at 10AM -

LarryT

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Cathey" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Backup Light Sw Help Pls



Have a 78 240D W123 and the Backup lights stopped working


Automatic?  Neutral safety switch, on the side of the
tranny.  Not all that fun to get to, and usually quite
messy once you do.  I repaired mine, but I was prepared
to replace it if necessary.

http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/cwlog.html#21Feb2007

Stickshift?  On the side of the shift mechanism up top,
probably.  If it's anything like my 115.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] wolf stoves,

2009-03-20 Thread LWB250


Uh, you've got that backwards.  Propane has a much higher BTU content than 
natural gas, so if anything, it will burn hotter.

Dan


> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:15:16 -0700?
> From: Redghost ?
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT banned lite, Better not get hurt in
> war?
> To: Mercedes Discussion List ?
> Message-ID: ?
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed;
> delsp=yes?

> AS for powering the stove, just ask around for how to
> change it up so?
> that you can hook up LP. Going to take a very large Texas
> size?
> propane tank, a few less BTU, but all is good. Your new
> pickem up?
> should be able to haul it all home.?
> ?
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[MBZ] PT-658

2009-03-20 Thread RELNGSON

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7693407296698216570&;
ei=3mPQSMCOIKO6gAP&cgsC


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Re: [MBZ] Backup Light Sw Help Pls

2009-03-20 Thread Jim Cathey


Have a 78 240D W123 and the Backup lights stopped working


Automatic?  Neutral safety switch, on the side of the
tranny.  Not all that fun to get to, and usually quite
messy once you do.  I repaired mine, but I was prepared
to replace it if necessary.

http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/cwlog.html#21Feb2007

Stickshift?  On the side of the shift mechanism up top,
probably.  If it's anything like my 115.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo - LUBRICATION

2009-03-20 Thread Jim Cathey


Was it jittery at low speeds as well, Jim?


I don't remember, actually.  But you can lube them,
and except on a 107 (which mine was) they're fairly
easy to get out so it couldn't hurt.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Backup Light Sw Help Pls

2009-03-20 Thread LarryT

Yes - Neutral Start switch - Auto Trans.

Thx -

- Original Message - 
From: "Craig McCluskey" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Backup Light Sw Help Pls

On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:05:18 -0400 "LarryT"  wrote:

Hi Gang -
Have a 78 240D W123 and the Backup lights stopped working - the bulbs
and fuse are good.  Where is the switch?  I assume the gearshift
mechanism operates it?   Once I get under the car it'll probably become
clear, but if someone can offer some guidance before I start looking
around up there I'd appreciate it.

Automatic or manual transmission?

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT banned lite, Better not get hurt in war

2009-03-20 Thread MG

Yup that's the baby except in stainless and with the full ovens on the 
bottom not just a cook top.


Manfred




Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:10:21 -0400
From: Rich Thomas 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT banned lite, Better not get hurt in war

http://www.mrsgs.com/product.asp?pID=65926&cID=33

MG wrote:
> Yeah but think about having 4 burners and a grill for steaks and a
> griddle to do the bacon, eggs and pancakes and two ovens. Got to have
> one of those. It will be in the new house when I get done, as well as
> a big honkin hood over it. Whats a few pennies compared to that kind
> of tool. I may even gain some weight. 145 soaking wet is just too light.
>
> Manfred
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT banned lite, Better not get hurt in war

2009-03-20 Thread MG

Interesting ideas. I wonder what they would do around here if someone 
were to do that.

Manfred

Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:38:36 -0500
From: Wonko the Sane 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT banned lite, Better not get hurt in war

Yea, same thing I was going to say. Here, folks put their sheds on skids
(think a couple of pressure treated 2x10 skis) -- it isn't a permanent
structure and isn't taxed as part of the real estate. Plus, you can move it
to a different part of the back yard if the fancy strikes, if you round off
the skids before you mount the shed onto them.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

>
>>
> Put it on a set of wheels.  Not a permanent structure, no permits,
> no extra taxes.  (Though such sheds shouldn't be considered permanent
> structures anyway since they have no foundation.)
>
> -- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] Backup Light Sw Help Pls

On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:05:18 -0400 "LarryT"  wrote:

> Hi Gang -
> Have a 78 240D W123 and the Backup lights stopped working - the bulbs
> and fuse are good.  Where is the switch?  I assume the gearshift
> mechanism operates it?   Once I get under the car it'll probably become
> clear, but if someone can offer some guidance before I start looking
> around up there I'd appreciate it.

Automatic or manual transmission?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: moss

2009-03-20 Thread OK Don

Wrong -- it's NOT a fungus. Notice the cholorphyll green color 

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Wonko the Sane  wrote:

> BINGO. I think moss is a fungus, and on what does a fungus feed?
>
>
> --
> OK Don
> W124 Diesels
> KD5NRO
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Re: [MBZ] Backup Light Sw Help Pls

Neutral safety switch?

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:05 PM, LarryT  wrote:

> Hi Gang -
> Have a 78 240D W123 and the Backup lights stopped working - the bulbs and
> fuse are good.  Where is the switch?  I assume the gearshift mechanism
> operates it?   Once I get under the car it'll probably become clear, but if
> someone can offer some guidance before I start looking around up there I'd
> appreciate it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> LarryT
> Porsche Posters!! And
> Oil Analysis at youroil.net.
>
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[MBZ] Good Mechanic in Denver (West Side)

2009-03-20 Thread Bill Hynes


Peter Frederick asks: "Does anybody know of a good independent (or a responsive 
dealer) in the area (Denver)"  

Peter, the service from any of the three dealers in Denver is, at best, 
incompetent and expensive. There are three or four independents around town, 
BUT, I would not let any but one touch my cars no matter how drunk I was.

I will probably get banned from the list for this, but the only independent 
that I trust in the Denver area is: Stu Ritter Mercedes-Benz
1250 S Inca 
303-698-2431
m...@sturitter.com
Hours: M - F 8:00 am to 5:00
Closed Sat. & Sun.

Mark Langston is the owner/operator/chief mechanic.

By no means is he cheap, but I have found him to be honest and VERY competent.

Bill Hynes
1972 250C RIP
1986 190E KIA
1991 300E
1992 300E
 


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[MBZ] Backup Light Sw Help Pls

2009-03-20 Thread LarryT


Hi Gang -
Have a 78 240D W123 and the Backup lights stopped working - the bulbs and 
fuse are good.  Where is the switch?  I assume the gearshift mechanism 
operates it?   Once I get under the car it'll probably become clear, but if 
someone can offer some guidance before I start looking around up there I'd 
appreciate it.


Thanks!

LarryT
Porsche Posters!! And
Oil Analysis at youroil.net. 



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Re: [MBZ] OT: moss

On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:09:17 -0800 Jim Cathey 
wrote:

> > You take samples according to the kits direction.
> > Send it off and in 2 to 4 weeks get a print out back.
> 
> For pH?  Some test strips of the right sort ought
> to be able to do that, instantly.

He's actually talking about nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium levels as
well as pH.

The kit from your ag extension is a good way to do it. There are home
testing kits sold by gardening places that will give the results for all
the variables quickly, too.

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo - LUBRICATION

Was it jittery at low speeds as well, Jim?

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

>  I'm probably wrong but it is my understanding that things can't be
>> lubricated.
>>
>
> Can, and have been.  I had a 'shrieker' that responded well
> to lubricating the bearing in the head.
>
> -- Jim
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] part number query

2009-03-20 Thread Rusty Cullens


it fits all fuel injected 6 cylinder cars from 1963 to 1971


Rusty Cullens
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- Original Message - 
From: "Allan Streib" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:49 PM
Subject: [MBZ] part number query



Does anyone have any way to look up part number 130 016 02 21?

Should be a valve cover gasket, but I don't know what vehicles it would
apply to.

Incidentally I have said gasket, unused in original packaging if anyone
needs it.

Allan
--
1983 300D

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Re: [MBZ] wolf stoves,

2009-03-20 Thread Rich Thomas

Wifey found a nice dual convection oven Dacor floor model for a very 
good price on Craigslist, that thing is awesome.  Cooks about 25% more 
quickly in convection mode, excellent results.  I think the food tastes 
better too!


--R

Loren Faeth wrote:
True, re: gas comm. stoves.  OTOH, an electric commercial convection 
oven is great if you  have room and $$.  No vents needed.





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Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo - LUBRICATION

2009-03-20 Thread Jim Cathey

I'm probably wrong but it is my understanding that things can't be 
lubricated.


Can, and have been.  I had a 'shrieker' that responded well
to lubricating the bearing in the head.

-- Jim



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[MBZ] OT: Re: Wolf Stoves

2009-03-20 Thread ANGELO GIAIMO


We took the Viking RouteJust a 4 burner, all Gas, self-cleaning,  no
dual fuel, no sealed burners (they're a PIA to keep clean).  Store would
not sell/install it unless we had a hood (vented outside) to go with it due
to high output burners.  Neither would our contractor who did our kitchen.

The Wolfes were nice, too, but we were trying to stay away from all the
electronic crap.  IIRC, the wolfe was her 2'nd choice.

Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS
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Re: [MBZ] Jittery W123 speedo - LUBRICATION