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Jim Cathey  writes:

>> regreased and back together with new rotor.  Trying to install the new
>> caliper and pads, they will not slip over the rotor.
>
> Caliper pucks not fully retracted?  These are rebuilts?

They are rebuilts.  I think they are fully retracted but that is worth
checking again.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare

2009-09-07 Thread Jim Cathey


regreased and back together with new rotor.  Trying to install the new
caliper and pads, they will not slip over the rotor.


Caliper pucks not fully retracted?  These are rebuilts?

-- Jim



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[MBZ] Kleb haXX0r site

2009-09-07 Thread Redghost


.thereifixedit.com



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[MBZ] brake job nightmare

Well my brake replacement has turned into an all-day nightmare.

First I realized I didn't get the grease and wheel bearing seals I
thought I otdered.  I checked the invoice and they weren't listed.
Somebody messed up, not sure who..

Calling around on Labor day to see who has seals.  Autozone has them.
Go and get them and a tub of Mobil 1 grease.  One hour + gasoline
wasted.

Rear calipers, pads, and rotors go on without issue.

The new front rotors are coated with what looks like varnish.  Brake
cleaner doesn't touch it.  Gasoline takes it off, slowly.  Spend about
an hour cleaning the rotors.

As I'm torquing down the bolts that hold the rotor and hub together, my
10mm hex head socket (Craftsman) breaks.  Off to Sears to get another.
Another hour + more gasoline wasted.  As I get back from Sears, a
thunderstorm rolls in and it pours rain for about an hour (I'm working
in the driveway).

The right hub, bearings, new (reman) caliper and pads go back together
OK.  Thinking I'm nearly done, I get the left hub and bearings cleaned,
regreased and back together with new rotor.  Trying to install the new
caliper and pads, they will not slip over the rotor.  Arrrgh!
Frustrated, I call it a night.

Is it sometimes necessary to grind down the pads a little to get them to
fit?  These are the expensive Akebono pads, don't really want to grind
them down if I don't have to.  My other option would be to remove the
"noise reduction" plates, I think that would give me enough clearance
but not sure if it's a good idea.  The right hand side did not have any
problems, why would the left?

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Re: [MBZ] Oil cooler bypass

2009-09-07 Thread Jim Cathey


So lets go over this oil cooler importance again.


In a 240D?  In the North?  Doubt it'll be a problem
without one.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Traffic Pro troubles


I hear ya.

Gary Hurst wrote:

hmmm, so it seems

i guess roger and his endless stupidity just gets me a little crazy

  


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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb visit


I only had one.

Benz Hogs wrote:

When did Kaleb get a 2nd Gold 300E?

Luther   KB5QHUAlma, Ark
'87 300SDL (296,xxx mi)



OK Don wrote:
My son and I visited Kaleb this afternoon - talked about some car 
trades,
watched him finish repairing a 190D, got to drive two different 190Ds 
and
the Starship (380SE/5.0). My son is seriously thinking about a trade, 
and I

snagged a nice gold (smoke silver?) 300E for my other daughter.
Thought I'd share this photo as well ---

  


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Re: [MBZ] Traffic Pro troubles

2009-09-07 Thread Gary Hurst

hmmm, so it seems

i guess roger and his endless stupidity just gets me a little crazy

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> wrong list dude.
>
> Gary Hurst wrote:
>
>> he's a retard.  makes you and mao look like xx geniuses
>>
>>
>>
>
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> 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81
> 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com
>
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb visit

2009-09-07 Thread Benz Hogs


When did Kaleb get a 2nd Gold 300E?

Luther   KB5QHUAlma, Ark
'87 300SDL (296,xxx mi)



OK Don wrote:

My son and I visited Kaleb this afternoon - talked about some car trades,
watched him finish repairing a 190D, got to drive two different 190Ds and
the Starship (380SE/5.0). My son is seriously thinking about a trade, and I
snagged a nice gold (smoke silver?) 300E for my other daughter.
Thought I'd share this photo as well ---

  


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Re: [MBZ] Oil cooler bypass

Kaleb wrote:
> ..but it seems the oil cooler fairy is hiding them for some reason.

Oil coolers are gay?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Traffic Pro troubles

jabba wrote:
> he's a retard.  makes you and mao look like geniuses

Hey - I'm a genius!!
Cool
mao

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I did not say it would ruin your car post haste, I said I have seen
several cars ruined by it. And yes, they were turbo cars. And yes, I
should have "plenty", but it seems the oil cooler fairy is hiding them
for some reason. Crap.

Curt Raymond wrote:

So lets go over this oil cooler importance again.

If I remember correctly Kaleb's position is that lack of an oil cooler will
ruin the car post haste. But I seem to also remember his data being from turbo
cars... Mine is a 240D, you wanna back that one up Kaleb?

My car has been sitting with my Indy for a week while Kaleb scrounges around Okieland for
a good oil cooler of which he supposedly has "plenty".

Prices on these are all over the map but I'm at the point where I just want my
car back.
So decisions:

1. Just get the car and drive it. If the engine blows up who cares it was a
$400 car.

B. Wait on Kaleb, support the list, have a warm glow.

III. Order from Potomac German.

-Curt

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[MBZ] 94-95 124 mirror switch needed


Anybody got a 94-95 124 power mirror switch laying around?  I need one.

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Re: [MBZ] Oil cooler bypass

2009-09-07 Thread Mitch Haley


Curt Raymond wrote:

So lets go over this oil cooler importance again.

If I remember correctly Kaleb's position is that lack of an oil cooler will 
ruin the car post haste. But I seem to also remember his data being from turbo 
cars... Mine is a 240D, you wanna back that one up Kaleb?

My car has been sitting with my Indy for a week while Kaleb scrounges around Okieland for 
a good oil cooler of which he supposedly has "plenty".

Prices on these are all over the map but I'm at the point where I just want my 
car back.
So decisions:

1. Just get the car and drive it. If the engine blows up who cares it was a 
$400 car.

B. Wait on Kaleb, support the list, have a warm glow.

III. Order from Potomac German.


4. Run mobil one and assume it can't possibly get hot enough to break down?
I suspect those dead Okie cars had 10W40 or 15W40 in them that turned into 10W 
or 15W when the viscosity extenders got cooked out of the oil.


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[MBZ] Oil cooler bypass

2009-09-07 Thread Curt Raymond

So lets go over this oil cooler importance again.

If I remember correctly Kaleb's position is that lack of an oil cooler will 
ruin the car post haste. But I seem to also remember his data being from turbo 
cars... Mine is a 240D, you wanna back that one up Kaleb?

My car has been sitting with my Indy for a week while Kaleb scrounges around 
Okieland for a good oil cooler of which he supposedly has "plenty".

Prices on these are all over the map but I'm at the point where I just want my 
car back.
So decisions:

1. Just get the car and drive it. If the engine blows up who cares it was a 
$400 car.

B. Wait on Kaleb, support the list, have a warm glow.

III. Order from Potomac German.

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Traffic Pro troubles


wrong list dude.

Gary Hurst wrote:

he's a retard.  makes you and mao look like xx geniuses

  


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Kleb again


I own 3 of them.

relng...@aol.com wrote:
.Yea, Woger keeps buying cars that always seem to have problems, same 
with radios.  He will keep complaining about them, but keeps on buying 
them



Honest to God, Kleb, the stuff you come up with sometimes just amazes me. 
Since this was the first post I have ever made about a radio that you have 
seen, you would look less foolish if you reread yours after a while before 
sending them.


Since your knowledge base is pretty much limited to what you can see out 
your back window, it does you no favors to open your mouth about things that 
are alien to you. I know you wouldn't know a Traffic Pro if you fell over one 
on the way to the privy so I will tell you that it is a DIN size 
combination GPS navigation/AM-FM stereo/CD player unit with speaker or amp-out 
connections and a LCD screen between the knobs. It has turn by turn directions 
displayed and announced but no map. Small but OK if it can be readily viewed 
while driving. For the price, it is a good unit with a few drawbacks. I bought 
it mainly because Jaime had installed one in a car of his and I got a bee in 
my bonnet that this might be fun to have plus I would then have a CD player 
to replace the Alpine 7347 cassette player installed in 1984 when the car 
was new.


As to cars, my C300 will be with me two years come October and it has been 
so trouble free that I am not going to buy an extended warranty for it. 

So, you were saying? Oh, I remember. It'll be your usual two word response. 
You should trademark it.


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Re: [MBZ] Traffic Pro troubles

2009-09-07 Thread Gary Hurst

he's a retard.  makes you and mao look like fucking geniuses

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> Yea, Woger keeps buying cars that always seem to have problems, same with
> radios.  He will keep complaining about them, but keeps on buying them.
>
>
> relng...@aol.com wrote:
>
>> ...I am sure Ed Ebel or someone there will be helpful. They probably gave
>>> up on helping Roger!..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Well, here is old Faeth, just being himself.
>>
>> The fact was, the unit would cut off sound about every five minutes and
>> resume after a short period, regular as clockwork. Over and over and over.
>> Since it was in warranty, I finally contacted Becker in NJ and talked to
>> some doofus in service who of course had "never heard of this" but would
>> check and get back to me. I'm still waiting but it's only been three years
>> or so.
>>
>> RLE
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Kleb again

RLE wrote:
> You should trademark it.

It is trademarked, but it only shows at banned.
The mercedes list filters do not show that trademarked response.
Kewl, huh?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] wheel bearing preload W123

Thanks!  Saving it this time.

Allan
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Craig McCluskey  writes:

> On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:53:05 -0400 Allan Streib 
> wrote:
>
>> What's the correct dial gauge reading for wheel bearing preload on the
>> W123?  I though had saved an email with that information but I'm not
>> finding it.
>
> 0.01 - 0.02 mm (0.0004 - 0.0008 inch)
>
>
>> Also how much grease should be used per hub?
>
>
>>From Section 33-320:
>
>
> Total capacityapprox. 60g   Suitably weigh full quantitiy prior to
> starting assembly of front wheel hub.
>
> In hub w/bearing  approx. 45g   Fill roller cages of tapered roller
> bearings well with grease. Also provide
> roller faces with grease.
>
> In wheel cap  approx. 15g   Fill-in approx. up to edge of bead.

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[MBZ] Fwd: Kleb again

2009-09-07 Thread RELNGSON

> .Yea, Woger keeps buying cars that always seem to have problems, same 
> with radios.  He will keep complaining about them, but keeps on buying 
> them
> 
Honest to God, Kleb, the stuff you come up with sometimes just amazes me. 
Since this was the first post I have ever made about a radio that you have 
seen, you would look less foolish if you reread yours after a while before 
sending them.

Since your knowledge base is pretty much limited to what you can see out 
your back window, it does you no favors to open your mouth about things that 
are alien to you. I know you wouldn't know a Traffic Pro if you fell over one 
on the way to the privy so I will tell you that it is a DIN size 
combination GPS navigation/AM-FM stereo/CD player unit with speaker or amp-out 
connections and a LCD screen between the knobs. It has turn by turn directions 
displayed and announced but no map. Small but OK if it can be readily viewed 
while driving. For the price, it is a good unit with a few drawbacks. I bought 
it mainly because Jaime had installed one in a car of his and I got a bee in 
my bonnet that this might be fun to have plus I would then have a CD player 
to replace the Alpine 7347 cassette player installed in 1984 when the car 
was new.

As to cars, my C300 will be with me two years come October and it has been 
so trouble free that I am not going to buy an extended warranty for it. 

So, you were saying? Oh, I remember. It'll be your usual two word response. 
You should trademark it.

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Re: [MBZ] wheel bearing preload W123

2009-09-07 Thread Craig McCluskey

On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:53:05 -0400 Allan Streib 
wrote:

> What's the correct dial gauge reading for wheel bearing preload on the
> W123?  I though had saved an email with that information but I'm not
> finding it.

0.01 - 0.02 mm (0.0004 - 0.0008 inch)

> Also how much grease should be used per hub?

>From Section 33-320:

Total capacityapprox. 60g   Suitably weigh full quantitiy prior to
starting assembly of front wheel hub.

In hub w/bearing  approx. 45g   Fill roller cages of tapered roller
bearings well with grease. Also provide
roller faces with grease.

In wheel cap  approx. 15g   Fill-in approx. up to edge of bead.

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Drain ATF with Topsider?

2009-09-07 Thread archer

- Original Message - 
From: "Craig McCluskey" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drain ATF with Topsider?

On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:50:58 -0400 Mitch Haley  wrote:

Rich Thomas wrote:
> I did it on my old Blazer 700R4, got almost all of it out (except the
> TC), not sure how well it would work on the Benz.

For cars without drain plugs, I like the method that I found in a Ford
FSM: Put a hose on the line from the tranny to the cooler, and pump the
pan dry by idling the engine.
Drop the pan, change the filters, put a gallon of ATF in it, and idle
the engine until new fluid starts coming out. Now put in as much fluid
as you recovered, and check the fluid level.
The first pumping cycle enabled you to drop the pan without getting
fluid  everywhere, and the second one changed the fluid in the torque
converter.

Wish I had known that when I changed the ATF and filter on an old Ford
pickup truck we had in Austin, TX!

It used something like 3 gallons of ATF, a quantity I had not anticipated
when I started the drain process. Made a HUGE mess on the street in front
of our rented house. I had to go back to Pep Boys and buy more ATF.

I was sorely tempted to drill a hole in the bottom of the transmission
pan, braze a large nut on it, and use a bolt to plug the hole of my newly
fashioned drain.

I actually did do that on a Ford 302 we had in a 1962 Willys Utility Wagon
in Colorado when I was changing the engine oil and the
previous-owner-damaged threads for the drain plug stripped. I ground the
paint off the pan around the drain hole, found a bolt and nut of the
correct thread, threaded the nut onto the bolt, threaded the bolt into the
weak threads in the pan, and brazed the nut to the outside of the pan. I
poured a quart or two of oil through to flush out the burnt oil, cranked
in the bolt, and refilled the engine. When I got home, my wife wondered
why I was late ...

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Oops ...

2009-09-07 Thread archer

B'lieve I got you both beat.  Wife got sick in '03 and died in '05.  240D 
was parked those two years.  Broke the pressure plate loose which was stuck 
to the disk and then ran it to town only often enough to keep the battery 
charged.  Broke leg and car sat for another 6 months.  Been driving it to 
town about every other day; 25 mile round trip for past few months.  Figure 
its time the oil was changed, so will do that as soon as I finish with the 
!#$%^&^%$#! Climate Control that shorted out and burned up in the 300D. 
Quite a job finding the clamp on tie point lugs and bayonet connectors that 
got overheated and only pass current part time.  If it works when its fired 
up, it'll be a miracle.


Rough calculation adds up to about 6 or 7 years since oil was changed in 
240D.

(Maybe early Alzheimers.)
Gerry
...

Craig wrote:

18 months since the last change (got to do better).


I'm not the only one doing that - cool!
I thought I was the only braindead in the midst.
mao
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Re: [MBZ] Drain ATF with Topsider?

2009-09-07 Thread Rich Thomas

I did put a drain plug on the pan after the first time I changed fluid
in it (before the $2 sucker) so it was easy to drain it after that. But
the $2 sucker was even easier as I did not have to get under and do it,
even with the drain plug.

--R

Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:50:58 -0400 Mitch Haley wrote:

Rich Thomas wrote:

I did it on my old Blazer 700R4, got almost all of it out (except the
TC), not sure how well it would work on the Benz.

For cars without drain plugs, I like the method that I found in a Ford
FSM: Put a hose on the line from the tranny to the cooler, and pump the
pan dry by idling the engine.
Drop the pan, change the filters, put a gallon of ATF in it, and idle
the engine until new fluid starts coming out. Now put in as much fluid
as you recovered, and check the fluid level.
The first pumping cycle enabled you to drop the pan without getting
fluid everywhere, and the second one changed the fluid in the torque
converter.

Wish I had known that when I changed the ATF and filter on an old Ford
pickup truck we had in Austin, TX!

It used something like 3 gallons of ATF, a quantity I had not anticipated
when I started the drain process. Made a HUGE mess on the street in front
of our rented house. I had to go back to Pep Boys and buy more ATF.

I was sorely tempted to drill a hole in the bottom of the transmission
pan, braze a large nut on it, and use a bolt to plug the hole of my newly
fashioned drain.

I actually did do that on a Ford 302 we had in a 1962 Willys Utility Wagon
in Colorado when I was changing the engine oil and the
previous-owner-damaged threads for the drain plug stripped. I ground the
paint off the pan around the drain hole, found a bolt and nut of the
correct thread, threaded the nut onto the bolt, threaded the bolt into the
weak threads in the pan, and brazed the nut to the outside of the pan. I
poured a quart or two of oil through to flush out the burnt oil, cranked
in the bolt, and refilled the engine. When I got home, my wife wondered
why I was late ...

Craig

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[MBZ] wheel bearing preload W123

What's the correct dial gauge reading for wheel bearing preload on the
W123?  I though had saved an email with that information but I'm not
finding it.

Also how much grease should be used per hub?

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Drain ATF with Topsider?

2009-09-07 Thread Craig McCluskey

On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:50:58 -0400 Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Rich Thomas wrote:
> > I did it on my old Blazer 700R4, got almost all of it out (except the 
> > TC), not sure how well it would work on the Benz.
> 
> For cars without drain plugs, I like the method that I found in a Ford
> FSM: Put a hose on the line from the tranny to the cooler, and pump the
> pan dry by idling the engine.
> Drop the pan, change the filters, put a gallon of ATF in it, and idle
> the engine until new fluid starts coming out. Now put in as much fluid
> as you recovered, and check the fluid level.
> The first pumping cycle enabled you to drop the pan without getting
> fluid  everywhere, and the second one changed the fluid in the torque
> converter.

Wish I had known that when I changed the ATF and filter on an old Ford
pickup truck we had in Austin, TX!

It used something like 3 gallons of ATF, a quantity I had not anticipated
when I started the drain process. Made a HUGE mess on the street in front
of our rented house. I had to go back to Pep Boys and buy more ATF.

I was sorely tempted to drill a hole in the bottom of the transmission
pan, braze a large nut on it, and use a bolt to plug the hole of my newly
fashioned drain.

I actually did do that on a Ford 302 we had in a 1962 Willys Utility Wagon
in Colorado when I was changing the engine oil and the
previous-owner-damaged threads for the drain plug stripped. I ground the
paint off the pan around the drain hole, found a bolt and nut of the
correct thread, threaded the nut onto the bolt, threaded the bolt into the
weak threads in the pan, and brazed the nut to the outside of the pan. I
poured a quart or two of oil through to flush out the burnt oil, cranked
in the bolt, and refilled the engine. When I got home, my wife wondered
why I was late ...

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Traffic Pro

2009-09-07 Thread Rich Thomas


http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=114405&whichpage=2

This shows where the wire goes -- it apparently connects to the external 
antenna jack and some other point on the antenna circuit, I used a tiny 
wire (probably like a phone cable wire, something I scavenged out of an 
old printer or something) and just soldered them as show in the pic, and 
it worked!


--R

Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 23:15:17 -0400 Rich Thomas
 wrote:

  

I have a really nice Garmin Nuvi GPS unit I got a coupla years ago,.  It
quit locking on the sats, or would only lock on occasionally, 



Last time I used mine (a Nuvi 750) it worked fine.


  

I did a webbertubes search



webbertubes?


  

and found some site that had a fix some guy figured  out that involved
doing a wire jumper on 2 points on the antenna module  (which is about
an inch square). 



Do you have the site URL?


  

So last week I took it apart, got out the soldering iron with a needle
tip and magnifying lamp, and a little  piece of wire and rewired its
brain.  Took it out to the truck, turned  it on, and within about 10 sec
I had a solid lock on 8 sats, and 18ft accuracy. 



Congratulations on the successful surgery!


  

I'm not sure I need to know better than that where I am.



That was the thought behind my original comment.



  
She also can calculate heading, speed, elevation, and a bunch of other 
things, looks like it integrates readings over a coupla-few seconds to 
figure all that out.  They are pretty amazing devices.



Indeed!


  

Frankenuvi, she's alive again!!!



Igor, throw the switch!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Oops ...

Craig wrote:
> 18 months since the last change (got to do better).

I'm not the only one doing that - cool!
I thought I was the only braindead in the midst.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Drain ATF with Topsider?

2009-09-07 Thread Mitch Haley


Rich Thomas wrote:
I did it on my old Blazer 700R4, got almost all of it out (except the 
TC), not sure how well it would work on the Benz.


For cars without drain plugs, I like the method that I found in a Ford FSM:
Put a hose on the line from the tranny to the cooler, and pump the pan dry by 
idling the engine.
Drop the pan, change the filters, put a gallon of ATF in it, and idle the engine 
until new fluid starts coming out. Now put in as much fluid as you recovered, 
and check the fluid level.
The first pumping cycle enabled you to drop the pan without getting fluid 
everywhere, and the second one changed the fluid in the torque converter.


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Re: [MBZ] Drain ATF with Topsider?

2009-09-07 Thread Rich Thomas

I did it on my old Blazer 700R4, got almost all of it out (except the 
TC), not sure how well it would work on the Benz.


--R

brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote:

I'd just pull the drain plugs.  They have drain pan catches the size of large 
garbage can lids that help keep the floor clean and work real well for coolant 
also.

Regards,
Brian Toscano

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From: Alex Chamberlain
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To: Mercedes Discussion List
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Subject: [MBZ] Drain ATF with Topsider?
Sent: Sep 7, 2009 3:47 AM

I need to change the tranny fluid and filter on both my 124s ('86 300E
and '87 300D).  Any reason why I should not start by draining as much
fluid out the fill/dipstick tube by suction?  Wouldn't this minimize
the amount that comes out in the drain pan, on the floor, and on me
when I open the torque converter plug and drop the transmission pan?
Is there a reason why I don't remember ever hearing about anyone using
a Topsider for ATF before?  Please enlighten me---I've changed ATF on
other cars but never on a Mercedes, partly because of a dread of the
mess, but also out of fear of the Benz tranny's sensitivity to
cleanliness and proper fluid level.

Alex Chamberlain
Two 124s, two 126s, and lots else

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Re: [MBZ] first impressions on snow leopard

LWB250  writes:

> My 15" CD MBP is about to turn 3 years old.  AppleCare has almost
> expired.
>
> I started to look at new ones, but this one does just fine with what I
> need it for, so I'll just keep using it, I guess

The new MacBook Pro was purchased by my employer.  The 12" PowerBook G4
that I use at home is still chugging along trouble-free, running Tiger
(10.4).  I'll probably keep it as my primary home machine until Apple
stops providing updates, or it has a major failure.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Drain ATF with Topsider?

2009-09-07 Thread brian . toscano

I'd just pull the drain plugs.  They have drain pan catches the size of large 
garbage can lids that help keep the floor clean and work real well for coolant 
also.

Regards,
Brian Toscano

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To: Mercedes Discussion List
ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Drain ATF with Topsider?
Sent: Sep 7, 2009 3:47 AM

I need to change the tranny fluid and filter on both my 124s ('86 300E
and '87 300D).  Any reason why I should not start by draining as much
fluid out the fill/dipstick tube by suction?  Wouldn't this minimize
the amount that comes out in the drain pan, on the floor, and on me
when I open the torque converter plug and drop the transmission pan?
Is there a reason why I don't remember ever hearing about anyone using
a Topsider for ATF before?  Please enlighten me---I've changed ATF on
other cars but never on a Mercedes, partly because of a dread of the
mess, but also out of fear of the Benz tranny's sensitivity to
cleanliness and proper fluid level.

Alex Chamberlain
Two 124s, two 126s, and lots else

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Re: [MBZ] Drain ATF with Topsider?

Why bother with it?  You are going to be under the car anyway, just take 
out the drain plug.


Alex Chamberlain wrote:

I need to change the tranny fluid and filter on both my 124s ('86 300E
and '87 300D).  Any reason why I should not start by draining as much
fluid out the fill/dipstick tube by suction?  Wouldn't this minimize
the amount that comes out in the drain pan, on the floor, and on me
when I open the torque converter plug and drop the transmission pan?
Is there a reason why I don't remember ever hearing about anyone using
a Topsider for ATF before?  Please enlighten me---I've changed ATF on
other cars but never on a Mercedes, partly because of a dread of the
mess, but also out of fear of the Benz tranny's sensitivity to
cleanliness and proper fluid level.

Alex Chamberlain
Two 124s, two 126s, and lots else

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Re: [MBZ] Traffic Pro troubles