Re: [MBZ] AAA

[Kevin]

Hm. "Get on the freeway from Rd 29 on I-5 and go .25 miles" never failed
for me. ...

I'm a road warrior like Brian Toscano seemed to be. AAA has paid for itself
each year without roadside assistance.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 01:52:58AM -0400, Gary Hurst wrote:
> one thing that used to really get me was their requirement of "an address"
> when you break down.  you often don't know the address of an open field or
> woods you break down next to.  so you have to argue with some nasty
> illiterate for several minutes to get service.

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Re: [MBZ] AAA

[Gary Hurst]

they endlessly piss me off though the few times i've had to use them, so i
gave them up

one thing that used to really get me was their requirement of "an address"
when you break down.  you often don't know the address of an open field or
woods you break down next to.  so you have to argue with some nasty
illiterate for several minutes to get service.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> Any of you guys have AAA?  Thinking about signing up and looking at that
> premier deal, with the longer towing, 100 miles with one time 200 mile tow.
>  Is that just 1 time per year 200 mile tow?  Is it worth the price?  Do you
> get good discounts at hotels and such?
>
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> 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
> 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81
> 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com
>
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Re: [MBZ] I'm back!

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:02:13 -0700 "Kevin Kraly" 
wrote:

> My Comcast account doesn't work here at guide dog school, so I'm using
> Gmail.  My black Lab guide dog is now retired and assuming the role of
> pet dog.  He has been replaced by a 90 pound Labradoodle.  This dog
> would require more than just half of the back seat of a 300SD that's for
> sure!  He doesn't like Diesel exhaust in his face as we found out while
> walking by a PowerChoke idling near the curb.  The guide dog training
> vans are Sprinter vans with the V6 Diesel, so the dogs have already
> ridden in a Mercedes.  I think I've found the right guide dog school!

Welcome back, Kevin. It's good to hear from you.

Yes, it does sound like you found the right guide dog school. What kind of
personality do Labradoodles have?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

[Craig McCluskey]

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:38:52 -0400 "Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310"  wrote:

> Here's a website I found:
> 
> http://blockchek.com/
> 
> Now I need to find a free/cheap way to use one for an hour or two...

The AT-1000, a free standing, resealable, clam shell case which includes,

* Universal Block Tester
* Bulb
* Complete Tester
* 16 Ounces of Fluid
* Complete Instructions

looks like it should not be too expensive. Unfortunately, the website does
not list any prices.



Craig 

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[MBZ] Clunker list clarified a little

[RELNGSON]

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/24/shed-a-tear-for-clunkers-that-deserved-better/
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Re: [MBZ] AAA

[Bob Rentfro]

I have it for the family. I use it on hotel rooms sometimes but mostly I got
it in case the girls have issues and I'm 50 miles away at the old nuke
plant.

Bob R

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> Any of you guys have AAA?  Thinking about signing up and looking at that
> premier deal, with the longer towing, 100 miles with one time 200 mile tow.
>  Is that just 1 time per year 200 mile tow?  Is it worth the price?  Do you
> get good discounts at hotels and such?
>
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> 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
> 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81
> 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com
>
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Re: [MBZ] AAA

[Redghost]

I have found AAA to be a life saver.

used it to get the 300D to the SLC dealer for gremlin chasing (89  
miles).  hauled the same car to a dealer when the throttle shaft  
imploded (36 miles)  Came out to change SWMBA flat tires.  Good for  
jump starts on Gump a few times.


We have used it for a few discounts on hotels and stores.  The more  
you use the discounts, the more you can recoup the annual fee.


As a realtor, Regina may have access to the same sort of discounts  
from organizations.


clay


On Sep 29, 2009, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Any of you guys have AAA?  Thinking about signing up and looking at  
that premier deal, with the longer towing, 100 miles with one time  
200 mile tow.  Is that just 1 time per year 200 mile tow?  Is it  
worth the price?  Do you get good discounts at hotels and such?


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euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com



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[MBZ] AAA

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Any of you guys have AAA?  Thinking about signing up and looking at that 
premier deal, with the longer towing, 100 miles with one time 200 mile 
tow.  Is that just 1 time per year 200 mile tow?  Is it worth the 
price?  Do you get good discounts at hotels and such?


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89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 
84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 
http://www.okiebenz.com



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Re: [MBZ] battery drain 1985 300TD

[Jim Cathey]

Yes, the drain can be caused by the radio.  I don't know how, but it 
happened.


The radio receives both switched power, and unswitched power.
(Maintaining presets, running the clock, handling operation
while the key is off [later units], etc.)

Obviously the unswitched circuitry inside the radio was at
fault.  Nothing wrong with the design, it was just broken.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] I now own a running/driving 90 2.5 turbo

[OK Don]

Idles nice and smooth, runs rough, misses, and smokes over 1600 rpm. Next to
no power.
I got the drive shaft rebuilt in the '90 last weekend, the '92 is next ---

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> oh thats right, so did you ever figure out what the deal is with it?  What
> was it doing (or not doing) again?
>
> OK Don wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin > >wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Oh no, you are not getting another one out of me.  Which 2.5 is down?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> The one I got from you ---
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> OK Don
>> CONSERVATIVE, n.  A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as
>> distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with
>> others.
>> The Devil's Dictionary
>> Ambrose Bierce
>>
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Re: [MBZ] I now own a running/driving 90 2.5 turbo

[Mitch Haley]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

a good what?


Blue 2.5 turbo, of course.

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Re: [MBZ] I now own a running/driving 90 2.5 turbo

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

oh thats right, so did you ever figure out what the deal is with it?  
What was it doing (or not doing) again?


OK Don wrote:

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

  

Oh no, you are not getting another one out of me.  Which 2.5 is down?



The one I got from you ---



  


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Re: [MBZ] I now own a running/driving 90 2.5 turbo

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

a good what?

Wonko the Sane wrote:

Want to trade a GOOD one (delivered) for a 300E?

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

  


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Re: [MBZ] battery drain 1985 300TD

[Loren Faeth]

UNplug them both, or pull the radio fuse and the antenna plug and see 
what happens.  Yes, the drain can be caused by the radio.  I don't 
know how, but it happened.


At 05:15 PM 9/29/2009, you wrote:

So the problem could be the radio and not the antenna?

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Loren Faeth wrote:

> The battery would drain on my 126 if the radio was turned off before I shut
> down the engine.  If I left the radio on, the drain did not occur.  The
> condition persisted after I had to replace the antenna.  It ended when the
> Becker dies and I replaced the radio with brand x.
>
> At 12:29 PM 9/29/2009, you wrote:
>
>> Battery drain on my 126 was antenna circuit, but it continued even with
>> antenna unplugged.  'Prob in ant. circuit in radio amp in trunk.
>>
>> Wilton
>>
>
> Loren Faeth
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Re: [MBZ] battery drain 1985 300TD

[WILTON]

Do you have the MB 123 CD for the circuit schematic?  If not, I'll send the 
schematic pdf to you. BTW, schematic shows radio, the antenna and the clock 
on fuse 2.


Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] battery drain 1985 300TD


On my 126 it was the radio amp in the trunk.  Unplug the ant, and see if 
the drain stops.  If so, its the ant.  Drain on mine continued with ant 
unplugged and 'til I unplugged radio amp in trunk.  Your 85 123 may not 
have such amp, but drain could still be radio, ant itself or something 
else.


Wilton

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From: "andrew strasfogel" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] battery drain 1985 300TD



So the problem could be the radio and not the antenna?

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Loren Faeth 
wrote:


The battery would drain on my 126 if the radio was turned off before I 
shut

down the engine.  If I left the radio on, the drain did not occur.  The
condition persisted after I had to replace the antenna.  It ended when 
the

Becker dies and I replaced the radio with brand x.

At 12:29 PM 9/29/2009, you wrote:


Battery drain on my 126 was antenna circuit, but it continued even with
antenna unplugged.  'Prob in ant. circuit in radio amp in trunk.

Wilton



Loren Faeth

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Re: [MBZ] battery drain 1985 300TD

[WILTON]

On my 126 it was the radio amp in the trunk.  Unplug the ant, and see if the 
drain stops.  If so, its the ant.  Drain on mine continued with ant 
unplugged and 'til I unplugged radio amp in trunk.  Your 85 123 may not have 
such amp, but drain could still be radio, ant itself or something else.


Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:15 PM
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So the problem could be the radio and not the antenna?

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Loren Faeth 
wrote:


The battery would drain on my 126 if the radio was turned off before I 
shut

down the engine.  If I left the radio on, the drain did not occur.  The
condition persisted after I had to replace the antenna.  It ended when 
the

Becker dies and I replaced the radio with brand x.

At 12:29 PM 9/29/2009, you wrote:


Battery drain on my 126 was antenna circuit, but it continued even with
antenna unplugged.  'Prob in ant. circuit in radio amp in trunk.

Wilton



Loren Faeth

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Re: [MBZ] battery drain 1985 300TD

[andrew strasfogel]

So the problem could be the radio and not the antenna?

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Loren Faeth wrote:

> The battery would drain on my 126 if the radio was turned off before I shut
> down the engine.  If I left the radio on, the drain did not occur.  The
> condition persisted after I had to replace the antenna.  It ended when the
> Becker dies and I replaced the radio with brand x.
>
> At 12:29 PM 9/29/2009, you wrote:
>
>> Battery drain on my 126 was antenna circuit, but it continued even with
>> antenna unplugged.  'Prob in ant. circuit in radio amp in trunk.
>>
>> Wilton
>>
>
> Loren Faeth
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Re: [MBZ] Smoke screen

[Peter Frederick]

Bye bye rings.

Peter

-Original Message-
>From: WILTON 
>Sent: Sep 29, 2009 3:23 PM
>To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Smoke screen
>
>Blue/grey, smelling strongly of burned, motor lub oil.
>
>Wilton
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Peter Frederick" 
>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Smoke screen
>
>
>>
>> Blue or white smoke?
>>
>> White is a blown vacuum modulator diaphram.
>>
>> Peter
>> -Original Message-
>>>From: WILTON 
>>>Sent: Sep 29, 2009 12:25 PM
>>>To: mercedes list 
>>>Subject: [MBZ] Smoke screen
>>>
>>>'Just saw a Focus ZX4 laying a very serious ("bout a quart per 5 mi.) 
>>>smoke screen.  I got past it and thought I was clear of it, but it turned 
>>>down my street behind me and did a "job" on unsuspecting neighborhood 
>>>"skeeters" as it went through.
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Smoke screen

[WILTON]

Blue/grey, smelling strongly of burned, motor lub oil.

Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Smoke screen




Blue or white smoke?

White is a blown vacuum modulator diaphram.

Peter
-Original Message-

From: WILTON 
Sent: Sep 29, 2009 12:25 PM
To: mercedes list 
Subject: [MBZ] Smoke screen

'Just saw a Focus ZX4 laying a very serious ("bout a quart per 5 mi.) 
smoke screen.  I got past it and thought I was clear of it, but it turned 
down my street behind me and did a "job" on unsuspecting neighborhood 
"skeeters" as it went through.


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Re: [MBZ] Smoke screen

[Peter Frederick]

Blue or white smoke?

White is a blown vacuum modulator diaphram.

Peter
-Original Message-
>From: WILTON 
>Sent: Sep 29, 2009 12:25 PM
>To: mercedes list 
>Subject: [MBZ] Smoke screen
>
>'Just saw a Focus ZX4 laying a very serious ("bout a quart per 5 mi.) smoke 
>screen.  I got past it and thought I was clear of it, but it turned down my 
>street behind me and did a "job" on unsuspecting neighborhood "skeeters" as it 
>went through.
>
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Re: [MBZ] battery drain 1985 300TD

[Loren Faeth]

The battery would drain on my 126 if the radio was turned off before 
I shut down the engine.  If I left the radio on, the drain did not 
occur.  The condition persisted after I had to replace the 
antenna.  It ended when the Becker dies and I replaced the radio with brand x.


At 12:29 PM 9/29/2009, you wrote:
Battery drain on my 126 was antenna circuit, but it continued even 
with antenna unplugged.  'Prob in ant. circuit in radio amp in trunk.


Wilton


Loren Faeth 



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Re: [MBZ] Combustion tester, was: Max's new ride?

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:45 AM, OK Don  wrote:
> Now - it refers to needing full circulation of coolant, and shows plugging
> the tester into the radiator neck. The later MBs don't have a radiator neck
> - the cooant resevoir is a seperate unit, and I'm not so sure that regular
> circulation occurs in the resevoir. Is this tool likely to give valid
> results with a 124, 126, 107, etc.???

FWIW, when my 603 cracked its head, the initial diagnosis (via
circumstancial evidence, i.e. sudden and repeatable overheating) was
confirmed by there being CO in spades in the overflow reservoir.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

[Mitch Haley]

OK Don wrote:


Now - it refers to needing full circulation of coolant, and shows plugging
the tester into the radiator neck. The later MBs don't have a radiator neck
- the cooant resevoir is a seperate unit, and I'm not so sure that regular
circulation occurs in the resevoir. Is this tool likely to give valid
results with a 124, 126, 107, etc.???


I'm thinking that if any notable quantity of gas gets into the coolant, the only 
place for it to escape is through the 'radiator' cap, so it would have to 
eventually make its way to the device.


I suppose this is the 'test solution', we used to detect exhaled CO2 with it in 
sixth grade science class. The green indication for diesel is probably due to 
the weak concentration of CO2 in the exhaust of an idling diesel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromothymol_blue

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Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

[OK Don]

This verifies that it works with Diesel:
"Continue to force radiator gases through test fluid by squeezing bulb for
about 1 minute. If fluid turns *YELLOW* (in diesel engines, fluid maybe turn
green-yellow), a combustion leak is present. If fluid remains *BLUE*, a
combustion leak is not occurring while test is in process."  from the web
page Max posted.

Now - it refers to needing full circulation of coolant, and shows plugging
the tester into the radiator neck. The later MBs don't have a radiator neck
- the cooant resevoir is a seperate unit, and I'm not so sure that regular
circulation occurs in the resevoir. Is this tool likely to give valid
results with a 124, 126, 107, etc.???

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
53310  wrote:

> Here's a website I found:
>
> http://blockchek.com/
>
> Now I need to find a free/cheap way to use one for an hour or two...
>
>
> Max
>
>
> --
> OK Don
> CONSERVATIVE, n.  A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as
> distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with
> others.
> The Devil's Dictionary
> Ambrose Bierce
>
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Re: [MBZ] battery drain 1985 300TD

[WILTON]

Battery drain on my 126 was antenna circuit, but it continued even with 
antenna unplugged.  'Prob in ant. circuit in radio amp in trunk.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Cathey" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] battery drain 1985 300TD


What will I miss by simply checking for inappropriate current draw at 
each

junction in the main fuse box (except for the 8 amp clock circuit fuse)?


There won't _be_ any current at other fuses, because they're
switched off with the car.  (Unless your key switch or light
switch is leaky.)  That said, you will miss alternator
problems, and those aren't entirely unheard-of.  You will miss
leakage in the starter solenoid.  You'll miss aftermarket wiring
loads, as those often go straight to the battery.  I think the
ignition might also be unfused, though it is switched.

And, unhooking the battery is one of the safety steps on the
way to chasing problems on the clock circuit, which is where
your problem most likely is.  (Unless you're lucky and it is
the [unpluggable] antenna.)

-- Jim



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[MBZ] Smoke screen

[WILTON]

'Just saw a Focus ZX4 laying a very serious ("bout a quart per 5 mi.) smoke 
screen.  I got past it and thought I was clear of it, but it turned down my 
street behind me and did a "job" on unsuspecting neighborhood "skeeters" as it 
went through.

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Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Here's a website I found:

http://blockchek.com/

Now I need to find a free/cheap way to use one for an hour or two...


Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:33 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

Napa sells a "block tester" for ~$42, looks like it detects the CO2 from
combustion which would be common to either fuel source.

Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:56 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

Does that work with diesel or only gasoline?

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of harry watkins
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:16 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?


Max, a combustion gas sniffer is available that will detect gas in the
coolant system, (~$40).  That may address some of your issues.

Harry


>I still haven't been able to get a look at the car.  My window of 
>opportunity yesterday didn't match the owner's, so probably Wed. after

>work I'm going to take a look.
>
> What's the definitive test for coolant leaking from head gasket?  If 
> the car is burning coolant that would show up in engine oil analysis,
right?
> If leaking out the side of the block/head joint, should be residue 
> right?  Is there an instant test for coolant in oil other than milky 
> color?  Can I see enough of the block/head joint or is it buried under

> stuff.  Is there a common failure point of head gasket that I should 
> look at first?
>
> Max


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Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Napa sells a "block tester" for ~$42, looks like it detects the CO2 from
combustion which would be common to either fuel source.

Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:56 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

Does that work with diesel or only gasoline?

Randy

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of harry watkins
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:16 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?


Max, a combustion gas sniffer is available that will detect gas in the
coolant system, (~$40).  That may address some of your issues.

Harry


>I still haven't been able to get a look at the car.  My window of  
>opportunity yesterday didn't match the owner's, so probably Wed. after

>work I'm going to take a look.
>
> What's the definitive test for coolant leaking from head gasket?  If 
> the car is burning coolant that would show up in engine oil analysis,
right?
> If leaking out the side of the block/head joint, should be residue 
> right?  Is there an instant test for coolant in oil other than milky 
> color?  Can I see enough of the block/head joint or is it buried under

> stuff.  Is there a common failure point of head gasket that I should 
> look at first?
>
> Max


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Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

[R A Bennell]

Does that work with diesel or only gasoline?

Randy

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of harry watkins
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:16 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?


Max, a combustion gas sniffer is available that will detect gas in the 
coolant system, (~$40).  That may address some of your issues.

Harry


>I still haven't been able to get a look at the car.  My window of
> opportunity yesterday didn't match the owner's, so probably Wed. after
> work I'm going to take a look.
>
> What's the definitive test for coolant leaking from head gasket?  If the
> car is burning coolant that would show up in engine oil analysis, right?
> If leaking out the side of the block/head joint, should be residue
> right?  Is there an instant test for coolant in oil other than milky
> color?  Can I see enough of the block/head joint or is it buried under
> stuff.  Is there a common failure point of head gasket that I should
> look at first?
>
> Max


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Re: [MBZ] Bel Air vs Malibu and crumple zones

[John Robbins]

pm7...@comcast.net wrote:

I'm driving 65 MPH, look in my mirror to change lanes, there's a bike
 about 500 feet behind me. I pull in front, holy crap, he screams by 
me going about 120!


This is normal in Germany...  I was cruising along at 130mph in the fast
lane, and nobody ever pulled out in front of me even with that large of
a speed differential!  The drivers there are AMAZING!!!

A random tidbit... most of the drivers there go 60-70, and about 10-15%
cruise at high speed.  Most of the cars that passed me were BMW's, MB
being next in line, and after that it was a pretty good mix.  FWIW, a
Ford Focus *flew* by me when I was going about 100mph!!

John


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Re: [MBZ] battery drain 1985 300TD

[Jim Cathey]

What will I miss by simply checking for inappropriate current draw at 
each
junction in the main fuse box (except for the 8 amp clock circuit 
fuse)?


There won't _be_ any current at other fuses, because they're
switched off with the car.  (Unless your key switch or light
switch is leaky.)  That said, you will miss alternator
problems, and those aren't entirely unheard-of.  You will miss
leakage in the starter solenoid.  You'll miss aftermarket wiring
loads, as those often go straight to the battery.  I think the
ignition might also be unfused, though it is switched.

And, unhooking the battery is one of the safety steps on the
way to chasing problems on the clock circuit, which is where
your problem most likely is.  (Unless you're lucky and it is
the [unpluggable] antenna.)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

[harry watkins]

Max, a combustion gas sniffer is available that will detect gas in the 
coolant system, (~$40).  That may address some of your issues.


Harry



I still haven't been able to get a look at the car.  My window of
opportunity yesterday didn't match the owner's, so probably Wed. after
work I'm going to take a look.

What's the definitive test for coolant leaking from head gasket?  If the
car is burning coolant that would show up in engine oil analysis, right?
If leaking out the side of the block/head joint, should be residue
right?  Is there an instant test for coolant in oil other than milky
color?  Can I see enough of the block/head joint or is it buried under
stuff.  Is there a common failure point of head gasket that I should
look at first?

Max



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Re: [MBZ] 1995 E320 check engine light

[Craig McCluskey]

On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:41:10 -0500 Peter Hertzing 
wrote:

> Hello all
> 
> #1.  Does anyone have or reccomend a difinitive list of the check engine
> trouble codes for 1995 E320?  Along with use and reset instructions

Sorry, Peter, I don't have that information.


> #2.  A code I think it is showing is #26.  Short circuit to positive in
> shift point delay circuit.  Any ideas?  Appeard with 5K of a new
> transmission.

The most likely way a short could develop is by worn wiring shorting out.
(You could also have a short develop on a printed circuit board, but
that's hard to do compared to wiring shorting out.)


> The wirring harness was replaced by Mercedes about 3 years ago.

What condition is the wiring harness? Does it have cracking insulation?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] battery drain 1985 300TD

[Mitch Haley]

andrew strasfogel wrote:

What will I miss by simply checking for inappropriate current draw at each
junction in the main fuse box (except for the 8 amp clock circuit fuse)?


Alternator, for one. It's unfused.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] battery drain 1985 300TD

[andrew strasfogel]

What will I miss by simply checking for inappropriate current draw at each
junction in the main fuse box (except for the 8 amp clock circuit fuse)?

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

>  I must have inadvertently deleted your earlier note explaining how to
>> disconnect the battery and test each fused circuit.  Since I am
>>
>
> That wasn't me.  But basically I recommend that you unhook the
> negative ground terminal from the battery and get out an ammeter.
> Pinch the positive lead of the ammeter to the battery clamp and
> then push the clamp against the negative post.  Put the positive
> lead of the meter against the post, then pull the clamp/lead
> away from the post, leaving any/all current to go through the
> meter.  (The little dance I just described ensures that startup
> surges do not go through the meter, which if it's sensitive
> may react badly to that.  As in, blow the $10 fuse in a Fluke,
> for example.)
>
> Then you run around the car pulling fuses, plugs, bulbs, etc.,
> and repeat the measurement until you find something that makes
> a difference.  Wash, rinse, repeat.
>
>
> -- Jim
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Proper Speed rating for tires for a W123

[OK Don]

It's down hill from Iowa to Oklahoma 

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Loren Faeth wrote:

> you got your 240D to go over 90  mph?  how?  did you sneak an OM603 into
> it?
>
>
>
> --
> OK Don
> CONSERVATIVE, n.  A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as
> distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with
> others.
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Re: [MBZ] I now own a running/driving 90 2.5 turbo

[OK Don]

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> Oh no, you are not getting another one out of me.  Which 2.5 is down?
>
The one I got from you ---



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Re: [MBZ] I now own a running/driving 90 2.5 turbo

[OK Don]

What's wrong with your 300E? I thought you loved that car ---

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Wonko the Sane  wrote:

> Want to trade a GOOD one (delivered) for a 300E?
>
>
> --
> OK Don
> CONSERVATIVE, n.  A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as
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[MBZ] FW: Max's new ride?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Oops, forgot to re-state this is a '95 E300 (diesel, OM606 engine).

Max

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Subject: RE: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

I still haven't been able to get a look at the car.  My window of
opportunity yesterday didn't match the owner's, so probably Wed. after
work I'm going to take a look.

What's the definitive test for coolant leaking from head gasket?  If the
car is burning coolant that would show up in engine oil analysis, right?
If leaking out the side of the block/head joint, should be residue
right?  Is there an instant test for coolant in oil other than milky
color?  Can I see enough of the block/head joint or is it buried under
stuff.  Is there a common failure point of head gasket that I should
look at first?

Max

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 9:30 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

So what is the verdict on the new ride?

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I still haven't been able to get a look at the car.  My window of
opportunity yesterday didn't match the owner's, so probably Wed. after
work I'm going to take a look.

What's the definitive test for coolant leaking from head gasket?  If the
car is burning coolant that would show up in engine oil analysis, right?
If leaking out the side of the block/head joint, should be residue
right?  Is there an instant test for coolant in oil other than milky
color?  Can I see enough of the block/head joint or is it buried under
stuff.  Is there a common failure point of head gasket that I should
look at first?

Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 9:30 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Max's new ride?

So what is the verdict on the new ride?

--R

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Re: [MBZ] 124 rearview mirror

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Lucky he didn't pop the windshield out!

Max 

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 9:07 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rearview mirror

He did it while trying to install the mirror - I don't have the details,
but can imagine it involved twisting the mirror to get more swinging
room 

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
wrote:

> Not sure why it would get separated, never seen that before.  So, I 
> dont know how to put it back either.
>
>
> --
> OK Don
> CONSERVATIVE, n.  A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as 
> distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with 
> others.
> The Devil's Dictionary
> Ambrose Bierce
>
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Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: Today's Diesel Prices]

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

Our local diesel prices in Charleston SC have been well below this
report for the last couple of months (Last two fill-up were 2.45/gal).
Am I just lucky or has this report become less accurate?

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Max Dillon
'87 300TD 314k miles
Charleston SC



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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 3:30 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] [Fwd: Today's Diesel Prices]


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On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD
 (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including
Taxes)

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Average All Types

 US
 NATL   EASTNEWCENTLOWER   GULF   ROCKY
WEST
  DATE   AVGCOAST ENGLAND   ATL ATL   MIDWEST  COAST   MTN
COAST   CA

PADD   PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD   PADD
PADD
  I IA  IB  IC  II III IV  V
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090928  2.601  2.607  2.703   2.714   2.552   2.585   2.525  2.658
2.742  2.807
090921  2.622  2.631  2.708   2.738   2.578   2.598   2.542  2.678
2.783  2.827
090914  2.634  2.650  2.720   2.755   2.599   2.607   2.555  2.683
2.795  2.847
090907  2.647  2.658  2.729   2.768   2.604   2.628   2.575  2.682
2.786  2.866
090831  2.674  2.691  2.742   2.779   2.649   2.649   2.618  2.692
2.802  2.893
090824  2.668  2.692  2.741   2.781   2.649   2.637   2.622  2.671
2.785  2.880
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