Re: [MBZ] OT - Dissolved Raccoon

2011-08-24 Thread Dan Penoff
In Florida we have turkey vultures.

It's not uncommon for road kill to be totally gone within 24 hours courtesy of 
these guys.

Dan

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On Aug 24, 2011, at 1:15 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ants.  One of the most efficent scavengers on the planent... NOthing goes to
 waste.
 I see in on the ranch almost every day here in the desert.
 
 On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Flesh eating bacteria = obummer bacteria
 
 
 Crowflesh eating bacteria!
 
 On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 11:06 PM, degco...@cox.net wrote:
 
  Hmm- a mystery to me then. I have been watching road kill coon on my
 morning bike ride- not that neat-still plenty of fur etc,
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 Crows?
 
 Dissolved.
 The flesh was dissolved on the pavement - big dried puddle, no odor.
 Plus, we don't have crows here.  I wonder if we ever have had crows...
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Dissolved Raccoon

2011-08-24 Thread Allan Streib
Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes:

 In Florida we have turkey vultures.

 It's not uncommon for road kill to be totally gone within 24 hours
 courtesy of these guys.

Mother Nature's cleanup crews can be surprisingly efficient.  Between
maggots, ants, and scavengers a carcass can be stripped clean rather
quickly.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] Stick 240D adventures

2011-08-24 Thread Rolf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene_glycol_poisoning

That is a real shame, someone should call DFCS on general principal.


Please tell me you dont really ride a motorcycle by redlining it and 
then slowling releasing the clutch?


Steering bolt is correct. Also the shifter can be rebuild along with 
bushings to make it nicer.


Why in gods name would anyone put those tires on?


On 08/23/2011 11:49 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net  wrote:

Yeah, but combined with the strong hot-coolant smell?  I figured
defective heat control valve at best, leaky heater core at worst.
(Wherever either of those are on a W123 240D).

The heater valve should be on the engine side of the firewall.
Leaks somewhat unlikely to propagate into the cabin.


What is it with people who don't fix cars with that kind of leak,
anyway?  The smell of hot coolant makes me sick to my stomach in
seconds.

This is an actual exchange between me and the seller of a car I
test-drove not too long ago:

ME: Wow, that coolant smell sure is strong.
OWNER: Oh, is that what that is?  Smells like maple syrup to me.
ME: Did you recently change out the heater core and some of it
spilled, or something like that?
OWNER: Nah, it's always smelled like that.  My kids love it.  They
say, Daddy, can we ride in the car that smells like pancakes?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Mercedes Benz 1984 300SD - $3200 (Johns Island)

2011-08-24 Thread Rich Thomas
A response from Rafael Smith:  How much are your will to sell it last 
and what the present condition ?


--R

On 8/23/11 8:20 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

What does the esteemed list think, worth a look at this car?

Seller seems a likable fellow...

  Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!)
'95 E300 292k miles (daily driving duties)
'73 Balboa 20 (High  dry until the head is back on)
Charleston SC



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Know butt it kin runn on vegie oil you make you'reself and get 43miles

---R

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Does the AC blow ICE COLD???

;)



Very respectfully,

/s/
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Dissolved Raccoon

2011-08-24 Thread Dieselhead
The old fashioned way was  quicklime.  I don't know what it is, other 
than a lime product.  I doubt it is available now without license, 
security, firstborn, etc.


The old lime mortar was quicklime, with water added to make hydrated 
lime.  Hydrated lime is what is sold now for mortar and other uses. 
Quicklime would be a strong base, similar to lye.



Two weeks ago, we noticed a dead raccoon on the edge of the pavement.
This is the season, so... it sat there and I expected it to stink very
bad in the hot sun and humidity.  Nope.  Five days latter, the bones
were stripped white and the flesh had dissolved, no bugs, no maggots,
no odor.  I am thinking someone put some sort of chemical on the
carcass and dissolved the flesh - perhaps that is a new critter
control technology being employed by the County?  Is this a new
product to purchase at the Ace Hardware store?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Stick 240D adventures

2011-08-24 Thread Dieselhead

Probably a moot point if you ran away:
The steering slop at 20-30 years can be in the coupling between the 
steering gear and the steering shaft.  It has rubber reinforced with 
cord to take up the shock.  The rubber disintegrates.




Went to see a '78 240D 4-speed (W123) advertised on CL.  Pretty good
cosmetic shape but some weird things compared to other 123s I've
driven.  Steering was extremely loose, is this the infamous
left-hand-threaded steering box bolt that needs to be tightened?  The
seats were an odd vinyl-cloth mix, sides Tex as usual, but the fabric
in the center was not the usual Euro scratchy tweed but a smooth
satiny material with a sort of herringbone pattern.

The clutch and master cylinder were new, according to the seller, and
the clutch seemed to have about half an inch of engagement range,
right at the top of the pedal travel.  The shifter had none of that
notchy feel that I associate with German cars, but was really loose
and sloppy---the proverbial broomstick in a barrel of rocks.  Combined
with the feeling of barely adequate torque and no power, it was more
than a little like driving a VW microbus.

Seller had some weird ideas he'd picked up from the 240D nuts
online.  For example, the car was riding on 205/70R14s on the stock
wheels (for better ground clearance---it's two inches higher this
way!), and he said that although he was afraid to try it everyone
says you should burn the clutch when starting out on a 240D... by
which he meant that on every takeoff you should floor the accelerator,
then at redline gradually let out the clutch to accelerate, slipping
it all the way like a motorcycle.

Climate control was wonky, too, despite being the famously reliable
manual 240D system!  The blower fan barely worked, A/C didn't (later
found out the belt was gone), there was a strong smell of coolant at
all times, and the temperature sliders didn't do anything---there was
full heat all the time.  Seller thought that was normal.  You control
the heat with these! (indicating the twist open/shut feature of the
side dash vents).  (Never mind that there was hot air coming out the
foot vents regardless.)

All in all rather disappointing.

Alex

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[MBZ] 1983 Mercedes 300D Hard Starting / AC Issue.

2011-08-24 Thread rkmercedes







Hi All,
 
Part 1 -  Last week I had some trouble with my 1983 300D, it would start as 
usual but run a little rough (popping like it was having trouble getting air).  
After a few minutes it would smooth out but run a little hotter than usual.  A 
few days later the ac compressor started making noise, the clutch stopped 
engaging and the air blew warm.  
 
I am in the process of deciding whether to replace the compressor now or next 
spring.
  
 
Part 2 - Yesterday it took me 10 minutes to start the car, I ran the battery 
down and even needed a jump.  Black smoke was coming out of the exhaust while I 
was chanking the engine.  The glow plug light appears normal going out after a 
few seconds.  Eventually it started , ran rough for a couple of minutes than 
ran normal.  This morning the same  exact issue with extremely hard starting.
 
Here are my questions: 
 
Could the ac compressor issue be related to the hard starting?  I disconnected 
the wires to the compressor but I still hear a squeaking noise from it 
occasionally.  Should I remove the belt from  the compressor to lighten the 
drag on the engine if the compressor is hanging up?  Could that have anything 
to do with the hard starting?
 
If these issues are unrelated any suggestions on troubleshooting  would be 
greatly appreciated!
 
Sincerely
 
 Bob
 
1983 300D 180K
1990 300E 89K
 
 




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Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes 300D Hard Starting / AC Issue.

2011-08-24 Thread Rolf

Yes. Take the AC belt off (easiest and quickest way is with a knife).

-Rolf

On 08/24/2011 08:42 AM, rkmerce...@aol.com wrote:







Hi All,

Part 1 -  Last week I had some trouble with my 1983 300D, it would start as 
usual but run a little rough (popping like it was having trouble getting air).  
After a few minutes it would smooth out but run a little hotter than usual.  A 
few days later the ac compressor started making noise, the clutch stopped 
engaging and the air blew warm.

I am in the process of deciding whether to replace the compressor now or next 
spring.


Part 2 - Yesterday it took me 10 minutes to start the car, I ran the battery 
down and even needed a jump.  Black smoke was coming out of the exhaust while I 
was chanking the engine.  The glow plug light appears normal going out after a 
few seconds.  Eventually it started , ran rough for a couple of minutes than 
ran normal.  This morning the same  exact issue with extremely hard starting.

Here are my questions:

Could the ac compressor issue be related to the hard starting?  I disconnected 
the wires to the compressor but I still hear a squeaking noise from it 
occasionally.  Should I remove the belt from  the compressor to lighten the 
drag on the engine if the compressor is hanging up?  Could that have anything 
to do with the hard starting?

If these issues are unrelated any suggestions on troubleshooting  would be 
greatly appreciated!

Sincerely

  Bob

1983 300D 180K
1990 300E 89K






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Re: [MBZ] Stick 240D adventures

2011-08-24 Thread Rolf

And when those give away its quite unnerving!

-Rolf

On 08/24/2011 08:39 AM, Dieselhead wrote:

Probably a moot point if you ran away:
The steering slop at 20-30 years can be in the coupling between the 
steering gear and the steering shaft.  It has rubber reinforced with 
cord to take up the shock.  The rubber disintegrates.




Went to see a '78 240D 4-speed (W123) advertised on CL.  Pretty good
cosmetic shape but some weird things compared to other 123s I've
driven.  Steering was extremely loose, is this the infamous
left-hand-threaded steering box bolt that needs to be tightened?  The
seats were an odd vinyl-cloth mix, sides Tex as usual, but the fabric
in the center was not the usual Euro scratchy tweed but a smooth
satiny material with a sort of herringbone pattern.

The clutch and master cylinder were new, according to the seller, and
the clutch seemed to have about half an inch of engagement range,
right at the top of the pedal travel.  The shifter had none of that
notchy feel that I associate with German cars, but was really loose
and sloppy---the proverbial broomstick in a barrel of rocks.  Combined
with the feeling of barely adequate torque and no power, it was more
than a little like driving a VW microbus.

Seller had some weird ideas he'd picked up from the 240D nuts
online.  For example, the car was riding on 205/70R14s on the stock
wheels (for better ground clearance---it's two inches higher this
way!), and he said that although he was afraid to try it everyone
says you should burn the clutch when starting out on a 240D... by
which he meant that on every takeoff you should floor the accelerator,
then at redline gradually let out the clutch to accelerate, slipping
it all the way like a motorcycle.

Climate control was wonky, too, despite being the famously reliable
manual 240D system!  The blower fan barely worked, A/C didn't (later
found out the belt was gone), there was a strong smell of coolant at
all times, and the temperature sliders didn't do anything---there was
full heat all the time.  Seller thought that was normal.  You control
the heat with these! (indicating the twist open/shut feature of the
side dash vents).  (Never mind that there was hot air coming out the
foot vents regardless.)

All in all rather disappointing.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Dissolved Raccoon

2011-08-24 Thread Rich Thomas
There was a dead raccoon up next to the road by the driveway a week or 
so ago, figured the vultures would be around to clean it up pretty 
quick, but I think because it was right next to the road they were smart 
enough to leave it there.  It stunk for a coupla days then it sorta 
dried up and is still there, what's left of it.  A cat got run over a 
day later right next to it, but then got run over a few more times and 
became one with the pavement.  The vultures are good on the deer mostly, 
they'll have most of one gone in a day or two if it is far enough off 
the side of the road.  Mice and such like the bones to get the minerals 
and keep their teeth ground down.  Not much goes to waste in nature.


--R

On 8/24/11 7:57 AM, Allan Streib wrote:

Dan Penofflwb...@yahoo.com  writes:


In Florida we have turkey vultures.

It's not uncommon for road kill to be totally gone within 24 hours
courtesy of these guys.

Mother Nature's cleanup crews can be surprisingly efficient.  Between
maggots, ants, and scavengers a carcass can be stripped clean rather
quickly.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] Stick 240D adventures

2011-08-24 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 4:57 AM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote:
 Please tell me you dont really ride a motorcycle by redlining it and then
 slowling releasing the clutch?

Of course not---I was referring to the general idea that it's OK to
slip a wet clutch when needed whereas, as Philip said,  one ought to
slip a dry one as little as possible.  I was taught to pull away from
a stop on a bike by revving up about 1/3 to 1/2 into the rev range,
then gradually releasing the clutch and modulating the throttle as you
gain speed, in order to avoid the sudden throttle application at low
speeds that often will make a cold carbureted engine stumble or even
die.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes 300D Hard Starting / AC Issue.

2011-08-24 Thread Jim Cathey
I am in the process of deciding whether to replace the compressor now 
or next spring.


You need a bit more diagnosis than that, first.

Should I remove the belt from  the compressor to lighten the drag on 
the engine if the compressor is hanging up?


Yes, try that.  You should be able to spin the hub of the compressor
by hand, without odd noises.  Likewise the pulley should be able to
be spun easily, also without odd noises.

Your car doesn't have a belt-saver device, so if the compressor
has seized, or nearly so, there should be noise whenever it tries
to operate.

Do NOT operate it if it is making seizure noises, you're just
pumping shrapnel into the AC system.  This is very hard to remove
and can kill the next compressor quickly.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 14 tire recommendations

2011-08-24 Thread andrew strasfogel
I like the Kumhos I got from TireRack.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 12:20 AM, ernest breakfield 
erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote:

 i've got a set of the Michelin Harmonys on my W123 now; very nice riding
 tires (if you can still find them), but they do have a slight tendency to
 track along metal bridge grates and track grooves a tiny bit.


 cheers!
 e


 On 23/Aug/11 04:05, John Reames wrote:

 Does Michelin make the primacy in 14? I've got 'em on my W210's and like
 them better than the factory/dealer conti's.

 When the pirelli's that are on the W123 wear out, it's going to get
 Primacy tires, if available.

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 Mobile: +14437915905

 On Aug 22, 2011, at 16:58, John Reamesjwrea...@comcast.net  wrote:

 The pirelli's suck on wet pavement.

 --
 John W Reames
 jream...@verizon.net
 Home: +14106646986
 Mobile: +14437915905

 On Aug 22, 2011, at 15:44, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net  wrote:

 Alex Chamberlain wrote:

 I know 14 tire choices are pretty limited these days.  What are good,
 reasonably-priced all-seasons for a 123 or 126 with bundts---ideally
 some that might handle occasional snow and slush with a few bags of
 cat litter in the trunk?  Mitch, are your favorite Generals available
 in the right size?  (I can't remember the model name...)


 I don't know about elsewhere, but Tirerack doesn't sell the H-rated
 Altimax HP in a tall enough 14 size. You'd want 185/70 or 195/70.

 Kaleb has used the T-rated Altimax RT, which is available in 195/70-14.
 It looks like the Pirelli P4 Four Seasons is the customer survey preferred
 item in the all season touring tire class, but it costs more.

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Re: [MBZ] Raleigh CL, was Long-running Chevy

2011-08-24 Thread Tim C
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 Interesting CL ads you've got down there:

We do, those are barely in the league of deals. :) The Triangle is
pretty expensive for newer, good used cars, and MBZs are no exception.
 However, the older stuff is often a -really- good deal, especially
when someone upgraded to something new and there aren't any comps
listed; winter is great for this if you know the prices.

My best deals have had simple mechanical problems, so early buyers
walked; I'm not the only one paying $500 per visit for a quick glance
by an inept mechanic, who then causes/finds damage for which I have
to pay another $500, etc.  It's a good way to encourage frequent car
upgrades.  Good retail mechanics are not readily available, at least
on the western side of the Triangle, in my experience.

If you want really interesting stuff, watch Charlotte and eastnc; much
larger rural area = lower prices.  Someone who grabs the good stuff is
watching Charlotte (Atlantans, no doubt; hi Rolf+Rusty! :) so you do
have to be faster there.

Best,
-Tim
whose wallet is not so big as to partake in most of those deals

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Re: [MBZ] Raleigh CL, was Long-running Chevy

2011-08-24 Thread Rolf
I got my 87 from Raleigh. I find the raleigh craigslist to have some 
really nice cars at good deals, more so than Atlanta generally.


-Rolf

On 08/24/2011 11:42 AM, Tim C wrote:

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Mitch Haleym...@voyager.net  wrote:

Interesting CL ads you've got down there:

We do, those are barely in the league of deals. :) The Triangle is
pretty expensive for newer, good used cars, and MBZs are no exception.
  However, the older stuff is often a -really- good deal, especially
when someone upgraded to something new and there aren't any comps
listed; winter is great for this if you know the prices.

My best deals have had simple mechanical problems, so early buyers
walked; I'm not the only one paying $500 per visit for a quick glance
by an inept mechanic, who then causes/finds damage for which I have
to pay another $500, etc.  It's a good way to encourage frequent car
upgrades.  Good retail mechanics are not readily available, at least
on the western side of the Triangle, in my experience.

If you want really interesting stuff, watch Charlotte and eastnc; much
larger rural area = lower prices.  Someone who grabs the good stuff is
watching Charlotte (Atlantans, no doubt; hi Rolf+Rusty! :) so you do
have to be faster there.

Best,
-Tim
whose wallet is not so big as to partake in most of those deals

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[MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-24 Thread Rolf

Ripped from benzworld :

1000 Dollar Car Lyrics
The Bottle Rockets

Thousand dollar car it ain't worth nothin'
Thousand dollar car it ain't worth shit.
Might as well take your $1000,
and set fire to it.
$1000 car ain't worth a dime,
You lose your $1000 every time.
Oh why did I ever buy, a $1000 car.
$1000 car is gonna let you down,
More than it's ever gonna get you around.
Replace your gaskets and paint over your rust,

You'll still end up with something that you'll never trust.
$1000 car's life was through,
'bought 50,000 miles 'fore it got to you.
Oh why did I ever buy, a $1000 car.
A $1000 car ain't even gonna roll,
til you throw at least another thousand in the hole.
Sink your money in it, and there you are
the owner of a 2,000 dollar 1,000 dollar car.

If you've only got a $1000.
You ought to just buy a good guitar.
Learn how to play it it'll take you farther,
than any old $1000 car.

If a $1000 car was truly worth a damn,
then why would anybody ever spend ten grand.
Oh why did I ever buy,
a thousand dollar car.



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Dissolved Raccoon

2011-08-24 Thread Fred Moir
Burn (or cook) limestone to remove co2=quick lime. (Throw limestone 
blocks into a fire as the Romans did). Add water and sand/pebbles and 
the cement takes co2 out of the air making a true bonded adhesive.

AFAIK. It has only been 50 years.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred


On 8/24/2011 8:31 AM, Dieselhead wrote:
The old fashioned way was  quicklime.  I don't know what it is, other 
than a lime product.  I doubt it is available now without license, 
security, firstborn, etc.


The old lime mortar was quicklime, with water added to make hydrated 
lime.  Hydrated lime is what is sold now for mortar and other uses. 
Quicklime would be a strong base, similar to lye.



Two weeks ago, we noticed a dead raccoon on the edge of the pavement.
This is the season, so... it sat there and I expected it to stink very
bad in the hot sun and humidity.  Nope.  Five days latter, the bones
were stripped white and the flesh had dissolved, no bugs, no maggots,
no odor.  I am thinking someone put some sort of chemical on the
carcass and dissolved the flesh - perhaps that is a new critter
control technology being employed by the County?  Is this a new
product to purchase at the Ace Hardware store?
Thanks.
mao

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[MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Allan Streib
Anyone have a spare hood star for a W116 that they would sell me?  Please reply 
off-list.

Allan
--
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1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
 Anyone have a spare hood star for a W116 that they would sell me?  Please 
 reply off-list.


Is there something special about the W116 one, or will any do?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Rusty Cullens

Any W116 will do.



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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star


On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu 
wrote:
Anyone have a spare hood star for a W116 that they would sell me? Please 
reply off-list.




Is there something special about the W116 one, or will any do?

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Allan Streib
I don't know if others (e.g. W123) would also work, just need one that will fit 
a W116.

Allan

On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:05 -0700, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
  Anyone have a spare hood star for a W116 that they would sell me?  Please 
  reply off-list.
 
 
 Is there something special about the W116 one, or will any do?
 
 Alex
 
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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Mitch Haley

Allan Streib wrote:

I don't know if others (e.g. W123) would also work, just need one that will fit 
a W116.


123 is the replacement for 116, but the 123 star is smaller. 108 are a different 
base and won't fit.
I bought a 116 on eBay when I needed one and wanted the original size, but 
they're probably less common now.


Mitch.

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[MBZ] Ive got the mog bug

2011-08-24 Thread Rolf
Wife says if I sell the 85 I can get a truck. Very practical of her I 
have decided. I believe a unimog will fit the bill and perhaps fill a 
hole in my heart that my motorcycling days have left. Apparently you can 
get a 404 s for a reasonable sum these days. Any mog owners on the list?


-Rolf

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Dissolved Raccoon

2011-08-24 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Quicklime is Calcium Hydroxide.

Greg

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Dieselhead
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 5:32 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Dissolved Raccoon

The old fashioned way was  quicklime.  I don't know what it is, other 
than a lime product.  I doubt it is available now without license, 
security, firstborn, etc.

The old lime mortar was quicklime, with water added to make hydrated 
lime.  Hydrated lime is what is sold now for mortar and other uses. 
Quicklime would be a strong base, similar to lye.

Two weeks ago, we noticed a dead raccoon on the edge of the pavement.
This is the season, so... it sat there and I expected it to stink very
bad in the hot sun and humidity.  Nope.  Five days latter, the bones
were stripped white and the flesh had dissolved, no bugs, no maggots,
no odor.  I am thinking someone put some sort of chemical on the
carcass and dissolved the flesh - perhaps that is a new critter
control technology being employed by the County?  Is this a new
product to purchase at the Ace Hardware store?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Ive got the mog bug

2011-08-24 Thread Rolf


If anyone is wondering my L508D based RV has moved on to better homes :D

-Rolf

On 08/24/2011 02:30 PM, Rolf wrote:
Wife says if I sell the 85 I can get a truck. Very practical of her I 
have decided. I believe a unimog will fit the bill and perhaps fill a 
hole in my heart that my motorcycling days have left. Apparently you 
can get a 404 s for a reasonable sum these days. Any mog owners on the 
list?


-Rolf

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Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-24 Thread Fmiser
 Rolf wrote:

 Ripped from benzworld :
 
 1000 Dollar Car Lyrics
 The Bottle Rockets
 
 Thousand dollar car it ain't worth nothin'
 Thousand dollar car it ain't worth shit.
 Might as well take your $1000,
 and set fire to it.

I find that $1000 cars can be a real bargain - but only because
I don't mind driving a beater.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread hursley
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Re: [MBZ] Ive got the mog bug

2011-08-24 Thread Max Dillon
Which model is diesel, and are the gas powered versions better/quieter?

Max
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Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote:

Wife says if I sell the 85 I can get a truck. Very practical of her I 
have decided. I believe a unimog will fit the bill and perhaps fill a 
hole in my heart that my motorcycling days have left. Apparently you can 
get a 404 s for a reasonable sum these days. Any mog owners on the list?

-Rolf

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Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-24 Thread Max Dillon
I like it. Sounds like a song they should play on Car-talk.

Max


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Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote:

Ripped from benzworld :

1000 Dollar Car Lyrics
The Bottle Rockets

Thousand dollar car it ain't worth nothin'
Thousand dollar car it ain't worth shit.
Might as well take your $1000,
and set fire to it.
$1000 car ain't worth a dime,
You lose your $1000 every time.
Oh why did I ever buy, a $1000 car.
$1000 car is gonna let you down,
More than it's ever gonna get you around.
Replace your gaskets and paint over your rust,

You'll still end up with something that you'll never trust.
$1000 car's life was through,
'bought 50,000 miles 'fore it got to you.
Oh why did I ever buy, a $1000 car.
A $1000 car ain't even gonna roll,
til you throw at least another thousand in the hole.
Sink your money in it, and there you are
the owner of a 2,000 dollar 1,000 dollar car.

If you've only got a $1000.
You ought to just buy a good guitar.
Learn how to play it it'll take you farther,
than any old $1000 car.

If a $1000 car was truly worth a damn,
then why would anybody ever spend ten grand.
Oh why did I ever buy,
a thousand dollar car.



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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
123 did not replace the 116, the 123 replaced the 115, the 126 replaced 
the 116


On 8/24/2011 1:19 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Allan Streib wrote:
I don't know if others (e.g. W123) would also work, just need one 
that will fit a W116.


123 is the replacement for 116, but the 123 star is smaller. 108 are a 
different base and won't fit.
I bought a 116 on eBay when I needed one and wanted the original size, 
but they're probably less common now.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread hursley
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Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes 300D Hard Starting / AC Issue.

2011-08-24 Thread rkmercedes
As suggested I cut the belt and found that the ac compressor did not turn by 
hand.  The car started immediately..one problem solved!   If the compressor 
is seized does that usually mean the freon is contaminated with metal 
fragments?  Any further suggestions or tests are welcome.


 


Bob





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From: Rolf r...@winmutt.com
To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:47 am
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes 300D Hard Starting / AC Issue.


Yes. Take the AC belt off (easiest and quickest way is with a knife).

-Rolf

On 08/24/2011 08:42 AM, rkmerce...@aol.com wrote:






 Hi All,

 Part 1 -  Last week I had some trouble with my 1983 300D, it would start as 
usual but run a little rough (popping like it was having trouble getting air).  
After a few minutes it would smooth out but run a little hotter than usual.  A 
few days later the ac compressor started making noise, the clutch stopped 
engaging and the air blew warm.

 I am in the process of deciding whether to replace the compressor now or next 
spring.


 Part 2 - Yesterday it took me 10 minutes to start the car, I ran the battery 
down and even needed a jump.  Black smoke was coming out of the exhaust while I 
was chanking the engine.  The glow plug light appears normal going out after a 
few seconds.  Eventually it started , ran rough for a couple of minutes than 
ran 
normal.  This morning the same  exact issue with extremely hard starting.

 Here are my questions:

 Could the ac compressor issue be related to the hard starting?  I 
 disconnected 
the wires to the compressor but I still hear a squeaking noise from it 
occasionally.  Should I remove the belt from  the compressor to lighten the 
drag 
on the engine if the compressor is hanging up?  Could that have anything to do 
with the hard starting?

 If these issues are unrelated any suggestions on troubleshooting  would be 
greatly appreciated!

 Sincerely

   Bob

 1983 300D 180K
 1990 300E 89K






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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Rich Thomas

Dude, you need to type something in your message.

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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Mitch Haley

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
123 did not replace the 116, the 123 replaced the 115, the 126 replaced 
the 116


I thought the 116 part number hood star (the subject of this thread) was 
superseded by the 123 hood star, but the 123 is smaller.


Did the 123 get superseded by the 201, or do they still sell new 123 stars?

I finally found the text in Hursley's message, he has a 201 star he'd part with. 
Who wanted the star in the first place, Allan?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Are you talking about vehicles or hood stars?  If so, a 123 hood star 
will not work on a 116, only a 116 will work on a 116


On 8/24/2011 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
123 did not replace the 116, the 123 replaced the 115, the 126 
replaced the 116


I thought the 116 part number hood star (the subject of this thread) 
was superseded by the 123 hood star, but the 123 is smaller.


Did the 123 get superseded by the 201, or do they still sell new 123 
stars?


I finally found the text in Hursley's message, he has a 201 star he'd 
part with. Who wanted the star in the first place, Allan?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes 300D Hard Starting / AC Issue.

2011-08-24 Thread Randy Bennell


I am no expert on AC but is this not an issue with the clutch? The 
clutch should permit the pulley to free wheel even if the compressor 
won't turn shouldn't it?


Randy


On 24/08/2011 4:15 PM, rkmerce...@aol.com wrote:

As suggested I cut the belt and found that the ac compressor did not turn by 
hand.  The car started immediately..one problem solved!   If the compressor 
is seized does that usually mean the freon is contaminated with metal 
fragments?  Any further suggestions or tests are welcome.





Bob





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From: Rolfr...@winmutt.com
To: mercedesmercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wed, Aug 24, 2011 4:47 am
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes 300D Hard Starting / AC Issue.


Yes. Take the AC belt off (easiest and quickest way is with a knife).

-Rolf

On 08/24/2011 08:42 AM, rkmerce...@aol.com wrote:






Hi All,

Part 1 -  Last week I had some trouble with my 1983 300D, it would start as

usual but run a little rough (popping like it was having trouble getting air).
After a few minutes it would smooth out but run a little hotter than usual.  A
few days later the ac compressor started making noise, the clutch stopped
engaging and the air blew warm.

I am in the process of deciding whether to replace the compressor now or next

spring.


Part 2 - Yesterday it took me 10 minutes to start the car, I ran the battery

down and even needed a jump.  Black smoke was coming out of the exhaust while I
was chanking the engine.  The glow plug light appears normal going out after a
few seconds.  Eventually it started , ran rough for a couple of minutes than ran
normal.  This morning the same  exact issue with extremely hard starting.

Here are my questions:

Could the ac compressor issue be related to the hard starting?  I disconnected

the wires to the compressor but I still hear a squeaking noise from it
occasionally.  Should I remove the belt from  the compressor to lighten the drag
on the engine if the compressor is hanging up?  Could that have anything to do
with the hard starting?

If these issues are unrelated any suggestions on troubleshooting  would be

greatly appreciated!

Sincerely

   Bob

1983 300D 180K
1990 300E 89K










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Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-24 Thread Randy Bennell

On 24/08/2011 1:11 PM, Fmiser wrote:

Rolf wrote:
Ripped from benzworld :

1000 Dollar Car Lyrics
The Bottle Rockets

Thousand dollar car it ain't worth nothin'
Thousand dollar car it ain't worth shit.
Might as well take your $1000,
and set fire to it.

I find that$1000 cars can be a real bargain - but only because
I don't mind driving a beater.

--Philip




The trick is to get a $2K or $3K car for the $1K.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-24 Thread Curt Raymond
And because you can work on your own car and know how to judge a $1,000 car.
For value my $400 240D has been hard to beat. I figured when it finally died I 
had about $2500 in it and I'd driven it 25,000 miles. I'm slowly getting some 
of that investment back (didn't have to buy a new exhaust for the '78 for 
instance and the scrap weight when it finally leaves) so it was quite 
economical to have around. Looked like hell and required work every week but 
quite economical.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:11:11 -0500
From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] $1000 car
Message-ID: 2011082413.f020d5c9.fmi...@gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

 Rolf wrote:

 Ripped from benzworld :

 1000 Dollar Car Lyrics
 The Bottle Rockets

 Thousand dollar car it ain't worth nothin'
 Thousand dollar car it ain't worth shit.
 Might as well take your $1000,
 and set fire to it.

I find that $1000 cars can be a real bargain - but only because
I don't mind driving a beater.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes 300D Hard Starting / AC Issue.

2011-08-24 Thread Curt Raymond
And you've learned a valuable lesson about AC compressors, any noise is a bad 
noise... ;)

It say its fairly likely to have dumped bad bits downstream and I wouldn't 
chance it. Fortunately a flush and an added filter should mitigate the bad 
effects.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:15:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: rkmerce...@aol.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes 300D Hard Starting / AC Issue.
Message-ID: 8ce30ba06bd1254-1834-7...@webmail-m147.sysops.aol.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

As suggested I cut the belt and found that the ac compressor did not turn by 
hand.  The car started immediately..one problem solved!   If the compressor 
is seized does that usually mean the freon is contaminated with metal 
fragments?  Any further suggestions or tests are welcome.





Bob

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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Curt Raymond
He did, the list rejected his HTML email.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:15:27 -0400
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star
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Dude, you need to type something in your message.

--R

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[MBZ] Fwd: 1981 Mercedes benz 300cd - $1000 (Lake George)

2011-08-24 Thread Fred Moir

Anyone heard from Johnny B?

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred



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   1981 Mercedes benz 300cd

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This is an old 300 cd Coupe diesel black with tan interior. Coupes are 
rare. This one needs restoration. The mercedes 5 cylinder diesel engine 
has approximately 6 miles on it supposedly. It does run strong and 
starts well in cold weather but does need body work and interior 
restoration work. Its missing the drivers side front light assembly and 
has some rust but coupes are rare. Make an offer. Call or text message 
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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Allan Streib
Yeah I wanted as star for my W116 300SD.  The original's broken off and
I don't have the pieces to even attempt a repair.

Allan

Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes:

 Are you talking about vehicles or hood stars?  If so, a 123 hood star
 will not work on a 116, only a 116 will work on a 116

 On 8/24/2011 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 123 did not replace the 116, the 123 replaced the 115, the 126
 replaced the 116

 I thought the 116 part number hood star (the subject of this thread)
 was superseded by the 123 hood star, but the 123 is smaller.

 Did the 123 get superseded by the 201, or do they still sell new 123
 stars?

 I finally found the text in Hursley's message, he has a 201 star
 he'd part with. Who wanted the star in the first place, Allan?

 Mitch.

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[MBZ] OT: 2002 Ford Focus (Zetec motor) attempting to change spark plugs

2011-08-24 Thread Allan Streib
The plugs seem to be seized in the head.  They sit in deep wells that
look like they would be prone to water collecting, though they were dry
when I pulled the cables off.

I have them soaking in my favorite acetone/ATF mixture... but how
much torque can I reasonably apply before I risk stripping threads or
breaking the plug?

Using first a normal 3/8 socket wrench, and then with a short pipe
extension on the handle, I have been unable to break them free so far.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread WILTON
Will the star from another model fit into the appropriate/original 116 base, 
or are the stars different sizes?


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star



Yeah I wanted as star for my W116 300SD.  The original's broken off and
I don't have the pieces to even attempt a repair.

Allan

Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes:


Are you talking about vehicles or hood stars?  If so, a 123 hood star
will not work on a 116, only a 116 will work on a 116

On 8/24/2011 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

123 did not replace the 116, the 123 replaced the 115, the 126
replaced the 116


I thought the 116 part number hood star (the subject of this thread)
was superseded by the 123 hood star, but the 123 is smaller.

Did the 123 get superseded by the 201, or do they still sell new 123
stars?

I finally found the text in Hursley's message, he has a 201 star
he'd part with. Who wanted the star in the first place, Allan?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Allan Streib
According to Kaleb only a W116 star will fit.

Allan

WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes:

 Will the star from another model fit into the appropriate/original 116
 base, or are the stars different sizes?

 Wilton

 - Original Message - 
 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star


 Yeah I wanted as star for my W116 300SD.  The original's broken off and
 I don't have the pieces to even attempt a repair.

 Allan

 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes:

 Are you talking about vehicles or hood stars?  If so, a 123 hood star
 will not work on a 116, only a 116 will work on a 116

 On 8/24/2011 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 123 did not replace the 116, the 123 replaced the 115, the 126
 replaced the 116

 I thought the 116 part number hood star (the subject of this thread)
 was superseded by the 123 hood star, but the 123 is smaller.

 Did the 123 get superseded by the 201, or do they still sell new 123
 stars?

 I finally found the text in Hursley's message, he has a 201 star
 he'd part with. Who wanted the star in the first place, Allan?

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: 2002 Ford Focus (Zetec motor) attempting to change spark plugs

2011-08-24 Thread Allan Streib
Score another point for acetone/ATF.  After a soak for a couple of hours
I was able to get the old plugs out with no damage...

...only to find out that NAPA sold me the wrong plugs to replace
them... grr.  Going to have to go back tomorrow.

Allan


Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes:

 The plugs seem to be seized in the head.  They sit in deep wells that
 look like they would be prone to water collecting, though they were dry
 when I pulled the cables off.

 I have them soaking in my favorite acetone/ATF mixture... but how
 much torque can I reasonably apply before I risk stripping threads or
 breaking the plug?

 Using first a normal 3/8 socket wrench, and then with a short pipe
 extension on the handle, I have been unable to break them free so far.

 Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You have to have one from a 116

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 24, 2011, at 7:11 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Will the star from another model fit into the appropriate/original 116 base, 
 or are the stars different sizes?
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star
 
 
 Yeah I wanted as star for my W116 300SD.  The original's broken off and
 I don't have the pieces to even attempt a repair.
 
 Allan
 
 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes:
 
 Are you talking about vehicles or hood stars?  If so, a 123 hood star
 will not work on a 116, only a 116 will work on a 116
 
 On 8/24/2011 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 123 did not replace the 116, the 123 replaced the 115, the 126
 replaced the 116
 
 I thought the 116 part number hood star (the subject of this thread)
 was superseded by the 123 hood star, but the 123 is smaller.
 
 Did the 123 get superseded by the 201, or do they still sell new 123
 stars?
 
 I finally found the text in Hursley's message, he has a 201 star
 he'd part with. Who wanted the star in the first place, Allan?
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Mitch Haley

Allan Streib wrote:

According to Kaleb only a W116 star will fit.


There's one one fleabay for $70.
There's a 123 for 1/5 of that.
Kleb, what's the deal, the 123 base doesn't fit the 116 grille, and the 123 star 
doesn't fit the 116 base? I could have sworn that mbz was selling 123 stars as 
116 replacements a few years ago, or was that 201 stars as 123 replacements?


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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The shape and the way they mount are completely different 

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 24, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Allan Streib wrote:
 According to Kaleb only a W116 star will fit.
 
 There's one one fleabay for $70.
 There's a 123 for 1/5 of that.
 Kleb, what's the deal, the 123 base doesn't fit the 116 grille, and the 123 
 star doesn't fit the 116 base? I could have sworn that mbz was selling 123 
 stars as 116 replacements a few years ago, or was that 201 stars as 123 
 replacements?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Allan Streib
Well if anyone should come across one please let me know.

Thanks,

Allan

Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes:

 The shape and the way they mount are completely different 

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 24, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Allan Streib wrote:
 According to Kaleb only a W116 star will fit.
 
 There's one one fleabay for $70.
 There's a 123 for 1/5 of that.
 Kleb, what's the deal, the 123 base doesn't fit the 116 grille, and the 123 
 star doesn't fit the 116 base? I could have sworn that mbz was selling 123 
 stars as 116 replacements a few years ago, or was that 201 stars as 123 
 replacements?

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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread WILTON
Well, that's my point; will another STAR only fit into the base of the 
original star assembly so that it can then fit/mount properly onto the 
hood - make one good/proper assembly from 2 other assemblies?


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star



According to Kaleb only a W116 star will fit.

Allan

WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes:


Will the star from another model fit into the appropriate/original 116
base, or are the stars different sizes?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star



Yeah I wanted as star for my W116 300SD.  The original's broken off and
I don't have the pieces to even attempt a repair.

Allan

Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes:


Are you talking about vehicles or hood stars?  If so, a 123 hood star
will not work on a 116, only a 116 will work on a 116

On 8/24/2011 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

123 did not replace the 116, the 123 replaced the 115, the 126
replaced the 116


I thought the 116 part number hood star (the subject of this thread)
was superseded by the 123 hood star, but the 123 is smaller.

Did the 123 get superseded by the 201, or do they still sell new 123
stars?

I finally found the text in Hursley's message, he has a 201 star
he'd part with. Who wanted the star in the first place, Allan?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread WILTON

So you can't take parts from one assembly to work in the other?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star



The shape and the way they mount are completely different

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 24, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:


Allan Streib wrote:

According to Kaleb only a W116 star will fit.


There's one one fleabay for $70.
There's a 123 for 1/5 of that.
Kleb, what's the deal, the 123 base doesn't fit the 116 grille, and the 
123 star doesn't fit the 116 base? I could have sworn that mbz was 
selling 123 stars as 116 replacements a few years ago, or was that 201 
stars as 123 replacements?


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[MBZ] oil funnel

2011-08-24 Thread Mountain Man
interesting oil funnel?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/120765354069

mao

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1981 Mercedes benz 300cd - $1000 (Lake George)

2011-08-24 Thread degcoast
Is that his coupe?
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Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: 1981 Mercedes benz 300cd  - $1000 (Lake George)

Anyone heard from Johnny B?

Fred Moir
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1981 Mercedes benz 300cd

Date: 2011-08-08, 5:42PM

This is an old 300 cd Coupe diesel black with tan interior. Coupes are 
rare. This one needs restoration. The mercedes 5 cylinder diesel engine 
has approximately 6 miles on it supposedly. It does run strong and 
starts well in cold weather but does need body work and interior 
restoration work. Its missing the drivers side front light assembly and 
has some rust but coupes are rare. Make an offer. Call or text message 
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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No

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On Aug 24, 2011, at 8:37 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Well, that's my point; will another STAR only fit into the base of the 
 original star assembly so that it can then fit/mount properly onto the hood - 
 make one good/proper assembly from 2 other assemblies?
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star
 
 
 According to Kaleb only a W116 star will fit.
 
 Allan
 
 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes:
 
 Will the star from another model fit into the appropriate/original 116
 base, or are the stars different sizes?
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star
 
 
 Yeah I wanted as star for my W116 300SD.  The original's broken off and
 I don't have the pieces to even attempt a repair.
 
 Allan
 
 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes:
 
 Are you talking about vehicles or hood stars?  If so, a 123 hood star
 will not work on a 116, only a 116 will work on a 116
 
 On 8/24/2011 4:15 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 123 did not replace the 116, the 123 replaced the 115, the 126
 replaced the 116
 
 I thought the 116 part number hood star (the subject of this thread)
 was superseded by the 123 hood star, but the 123 is smaller.
 
 Did the 123 get superseded by the 201, or do they still sell new 123
 stars?
 
 I finally found the text in Hursley's message, he has a 201 star
 he'd part with. Who wanted the star in the first place, Allan?
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I take that back a 115 one might work on a 116 base 

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 So you can't take parts from one assembly to work in the other?
 
 Wilton
 
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood star
 
 
 The shape and the way they mount are completely different
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 24, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
 Allan Streib wrote:
 According to Kaleb only a W116 star will fit.
 
 There's one one fleabay for $70.
 There's a 123 for 1/5 of that.
 Kleb, what's the deal, the 123 base doesn't fit the 116 grille, and the 123 
 star doesn't fit the 116 base? I could have sworn that mbz was selling 123 
 stars as 116 replacements a few years ago, or was that 201 stars as 123 
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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Dieselhead

Try Sun Valley (CA) Mercedes Dismantlers.  They may have one.




Well if anyone should come across one please let me know.

Thanks,

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] oil funnel

2011-08-24 Thread Allan Streib
Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com writes:

 interesting oil funnel?

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/120765354069

Whenever I need a funnel for filling oil I just cut the top third or so
off of a 2 litre soda bottle.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] oil funnel

2011-08-24 Thread OK Don
It looks like it bayonets into the cap fitting?

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 interesting oil funnel?

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/120765354069

 mao

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1981 Mercedes benz 300cd - $1000 (Lake George)

2011-08-24 Thread Fred Moir

Dwight, et al.
I only noticed that it was Lake George NY. and thought of him.
AFAIK, his $1.00 300CD died somewhere down south and it was blue.

Fred Moir
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On 8/24/2011 10:00 PM, degco...@cox.net wrote:

Is that his coupe?
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Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: 1981 Mercedes benz 300cd  - $1000 (Lake George)

Anyone heard from Johnny B?

Fred Moir
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Re: [MBZ] oil funnel

2011-08-24 Thread Mountain Man
OK Don wrote:
 It looks like it bayonets into the cap fitting?

I think that is the design of the thing, so that the funnel is not
flopping around spilling.
The concept sounds nice, but the sellers feedback is atrocious.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] oil funnel

2011-08-24 Thread Allan Streib
Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes:

 Whenever I need a funnel for filling oil I just cut the top third or
 so off of a 2 litre soda bottle.

I've also used empty oil bottles... just cut the bottom off.

Allan
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1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] oil funnel

2011-08-24 Thread Craig
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:00:53 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
wrote:

 interesting oil funnel?
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/120765354069


Indeed. Does it come with the rachet and socket?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] $1000 car

2011-08-24 Thread Redghost
Gump was $120.  I got 60k miles on her, spent $2k, drove 6 years.  He'll of a 
lot better investment than some cars.  Will get at least that much as scrap, 
and have sold enough parts off her to cover a few tanks of fuel.

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On Aug 24, 2011, at 14:39, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 And because you can work on your own car and know how to judge a $1,000 car.
 For value my $400 240D has been hard to beat. I figured when it finally died 
 I had about $2500 in it and I'd driven it 25,000 miles. I'm slowly getting 
 some of that investment back (didn't have to buy a new exhaust for the '78 
 for instance and the scrap weight when it finally leaves) so it was quite 
 economical to have around. Looked like hell and required work every week but 
 quite economical.
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:11:11 -0500
 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] $1000 car
 Message-ID: 2011082413.f020d5c9.fmi...@gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
 
 Rolf wrote:
 
 Ripped from benzworld :
 
 1000 Dollar Car Lyrics
 The Bottle Rockets
 
 Thousand dollar car it ain't worth nothin'
 Thousand dollar car it ain't worth shit.
 Might as well take your $1000,
 and set fire to it.
 
 I find that $1000 cars can be a real bargain - but only because
 I don't mind driving a beater.
 
 --Philip
 
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[MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2011-08-24 Thread Jerry Herrman
It appears I throw nothing away. Which is why I have run out of room in the 
garage. Gotta get rid of some things.
Let's start with PS fluid. I have about a dozen bottles, various brands.  Never 
used even one. (Please don't ask why I acquired them).They are the one size 
fits all type, claiming they are compatible with all PS units. Y'all have 
taught me not to believe that.
It goes against my instincts to just throw things out, like normal people do. 
So, does anyone know of an alternate use for these products, other than burning 
them is a diesel engine? (Chain saw oil, thread cutting oil, killing 
ants/termites, compost pile, ANYTHING?) 
Will they be valuable one day?
Your thoughts?

Jerry
1982 240D 


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Re: [MBZ] Hood star

2011-08-24 Thread Fmiser
  WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes:
 
  Will the star from another model fit into the
  appropriate/original 116 base, or are the stars different
  sizes?

 Allan Streib wrote:

 According to Kaleb only a W116 star will fit.

Collect whatever parts you have and send them to Jim Cathey.
Include beer, tomatoes, potatoes, microwave oven sheetmetal, or
whatever bribe is suitable.  I'll bet he can rebuild it!

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2011-08-24 Thread Rolf
Most petroleum fluids are hydroscopic, so chances are they have already 
absorbed enough water to make then worthless :D


-Rolf

On 8/24/2011 11:22 PM, Jerry Herrman wrote:

It appears I throw nothing away. Which is why I have run out of room in the 
garage. Gotta get rid of some things.
Let's start with PS fluid. I have about a dozen bottles, various brands.  Never used even 
one. (Please don't ask why I acquired them).They are the one size fits all 
type, claiming they are compatible with all PS units. Y'all have taught me not to believe 
that.
It goes against my instincts to just throw things out, like normal people do. 
So, does anyone know of an alternate use for these products, other than burning 
them is a diesel engine? (Chain saw oil, thread cutting oil, killing 
ants/termites, compost pile, ANYTHING?)
Will they be valuable one day?
Your thoughts?

Jerry
1982 240D


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Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes 300D Hard Starting / AC Issue.

2011-08-24 Thread Jim Cathey
If the compressor is seized does that usually mean the freon is 
contaminated with metal fragments?


Yes.  The R4 seems to be particularly prone to this, I think it's
because the pistons are teflon-coated.  (???)  You can remove the
outlet hose and wipe your fingertip, or a Q-tip, in it and see.
Flush, and use a filter on the suction side.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Ive got the mog bug

2011-08-24 Thread Jim Cathey

Which model is diesel, and are the gas powered versions better/quieter?


The 404's are gas, the rest are diesel.  I infinitely prefer the
diesels, but I suppose (but do not know) that the gassers might
be a little quieter.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Ive got the mog bug

2011-08-24 Thread Jim Cathey

Wife says if I sell the 85 I can get a truck. Very practical of her I
have decided. I believe a unimog will fit the bill and perhaps fill a
hole in my heart that my motorcycling days have left. Apparently you 
can
get a 404 s for a reasonable sum these days. Any mog owners on the 
list?


I would not want the Mog as a daily driver.  Too rude and crude.
And slow.  And the tires are expensive.  You can see mine:

http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/Mog.html

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Ive got the mog bug

2011-08-24 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Knowing Rolf, it will be getting some upgrades that will render slow
non-existent.

Sleeper MOG anyone?

Walt

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 Wife says if I sell the 85 I can get a truck. Very practical of her I
 have decided. I believe a unimog will fit the bill and perhaps fill a
 hole in my heart that my motorcycling days have left. Apparently you can
 get a 404 s for a reasonable sum these days. Any mog owners on the list?

 I would not want the Mog as a daily driver.  Too rude and crude.
 And slow.  And the tires are expensive.  You can see mine:

 http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/Mog.html

 -- Jim



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