Re: [MBZ] Citric acid flush - was: Heat wave
But Philip, The output of the water pump is always directly to the engine block... there will always be sufficient flow through the block. The thermostat determines how much water flows through the radiator vs the bypass... water always flows through the engine block. There is a good diagram of the V8s here: http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/11883/PROGRAM/Engine/107/M117_45/20-005.pdf Jaime On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't argue that it's safe. But it also isn't going to do a thorough job flushing. The laws of hydrodynamics indicate that the path of least resistance will get the most flow. And the path through the engine is going to have a higher resistance than the 6 inch bypass pipe. Therefore most of the water will not go through the engine if the bypass isn't closed. Do whatever you want - but when I do a cooling system flush, I want it all cleaned out. So I use a forced-open thermostat. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Wind map
this is pretty cool http://hint.fm/wind/index.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid
Well, I have ballast temporarily secured to underside right now; works much better; need just a little bit (Goldilocks) more. 'Sure hate to hafta haul ballast around, but it'll work 'til I figure something better. 'Nother problem developing with the paint right now; after sitting in sun yesterday, little bitty indented freckles developed all over the horizontal surface. 'Looks like paint on rusted steel with the rust pits showing through the paint. 'Sanded it a BUNCH before and between every coat and never saw such pitting in the several coats that I put on it. May need to take it back off and strip it to metal like I should have done originally. Wonder if tool rental places have paint strippers - the soda or walnut shell type? Gonna start looking immediately after I punch SEND. 'Course, I also have random orbital sander with enough grit to strip it, too; shoulda put it to good use coupla months ago. 'Becoming quite a saga. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid One of the trunk lid springs on the 450SLC was not working (one end was not in it's slot), and it would almost, but not quite, hold the lid open. Perhaps you coud disconnect one side, and see what happens? The ither option is to find springs from the same type car that the aluminum lid came from and replace yours. On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 5:42 PM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: I take it the springs can't just be moved to a different position on the arms to change the tension (like the hood springs on 115/123?) Wilton wrote: Yep; old one is steel; new one is AL. Gonna hafta add some weight to underside of new one - a pity to haul the extra weight, but I can't have it opening so violently with SWMBO or anybody else. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid
On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:00 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Becoming quite a saga Sometimes it's better to pay a pro. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid
Yep. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:00 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Becoming quite a saga Sometimes it's better to pay a pro. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric acid flush - was: Heat wave
Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't argue that it's safe. But it also isn't going to do a thorough job flushing. The laws of hydrodynamics indicate that the path of least resistance will get the most flow. And the path through the engine is going to have a higher resistance than the 6 inch bypass pipe. Therefore most of the water will not go through the engine if the bypass isn't closed. Jaime Kopchinski wrote: But Philip, The output of the water pump is always directly to the engine block... there will always be sufficient flow through the block. The thermostat determines how much water flows through the radiator vs the bypass... water always flows through the engine block. Ah. I was describing the situation using a garden hose to backflush. If you are using a running engine to flush, then exchange the word radiator for engine. The output from the block will mostly go through the bypass and not through the radiator. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dirty oil
Use Rotella T 15w40 diesel or another diesel-grade oil that will suspend the nasties and sludge and get it out of the engine. You could also put in a litre of Rislone to clear up the sludge. Clay Monroe wrote: I have about 1k on the recent oil fill in Frosch. Oil is black as night and nasty. Granted, I used rotella 20-50, but being a vergasser, there should not be the diesel sooting up of oil. What is the group consensus on early change of oil? Should I just go ahead and toss in fresh oil and filter, or wait another few thousand? Oil pressure at idle is near nil, but at speed, I have great pressure. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] overheating, heat wave and 300td travel
Folks OK here's the update I left athens, ga going to savannah, about 9 sunday nite Temps were perfect, with the engine running at about 85 or 90 c running the cold r12 AC Enroute, i started to have fuel delivery problems (i'm running straight WVO). I changed the small fuel filter which was clean. It looked like the fuel line may have been collapsing So i messed around, traveling the georgia darkness at about 40 mph for 20 or 30 miles till i got to a well lit place. I dug deep in my car and found a new spin on fuel filter and filled that with ATF and primed well .presto, 70 mph the rest of the way to savannah It was a troublesome trip, but the travel is the result, i guess!! NOW, for heat wave content, i've been sweating for a day here at the beach since the central ac here at the house is not firing up. The starting capacitor looks blown up (swelled on the top) so i can only hope changing that will fire up the compressor again so i can be cool!! stay cool!! thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dirty oil
I like that solution better. The filter is a PITA. No need to put it on ramps, or get all the oil down my arm. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 2, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: I have about 1k on the recent oil fill in Frosch. Oil is black as night and nasty. Granted, I used rotella 20-50, but being a vergasser, there should not be the diesel sooting up of oil. May just be sludge coming out into solution. I'd probably suck out hot oil and refill, leave filter alone. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wind map
Yes,it is! Thanks -- On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: this is pretty cool http://hint.fm/wind/index.html __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: FREE Shipping Offer
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Re: [MBZ] overheating, heat wave and 300td travel
Did you inspect the spin-on filter? Mine had some fine dust - that was all it took t rob the car of power going up hills. On 7/3/12, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks OK here's the update I left athens, ga going to savannah, about 9 sunday nite Temps were perfect, with the engine running at about 85 or 90 c running the cold r12 AC Enroute, i started to have fuel delivery problems (i'm running straight WVO). I changed the small fuel filter which was clean. It looked like the fuel line may have been collapsing So i messed around, traveling the georgia darkness at about 40 mph for 20 or 30 miles till i got to a well lit place. I dug deep in my car and found a new spin on fuel filter and filled that with ATF and primed well .presto, 70 mph the rest of the way to savannah It was a troublesome trip, but the travel is the result, i guess!! NOW, for heat wave content, i've been sweating for a day here at the beach since the central ac here at the house is not firing up. The starting capacitor looks blown up (swelled on the top) so i can only hope changing that will fire up the compressor again so i can be cool!! stay cool!! thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] overheating, heat wave and 300td travel
Glad you made it! Regarding house central AC, I'll bet you're correct on the capacitor. -Max Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks OK here's the update I left athens, ga going to savannah, about 9 sunday nite Temps were perfect, with the engine running at about 85 or 90 c running the cold r12 AC Enroute, i started to have fuel delivery problems (i'm running straight WVO). I changed the small fuel filter which was clean. It looked like the fuel line may have been collapsing So i messed around, traveling the georgia darkness at about 40 mph for 20 or 30 miles till i got to a well lit place. I dug deep in my car and found a new spin on fuel filter and filled that with ATF and primed well .presto, 70 mph the rest of the way to savannah It was a troublesome trip, but the travel is the result, i guess!! NOW, for heat wave content, i've been sweating for a day here at the beach since the central ac here at the house is not firing up. The starting capacitor looks blown up (swelled on the top) so i can only hope changing that will fire up the compressor again so i can be cool!! stay cool!! thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TD Questions
Good news about the transmission, it was low on fluid! It seems to be crisper off the line, and shifting/hanging on upshifts is much better! It seems to have a PS fluid leak as well. I know that this has the tandem ps/sls pump. Can one circuit leak into the other? Another minor problem I found is where the fuel filler neck meets the tube that leads to the tank behind the passenger's side rear access panel. This gromet seems to be soft and weepy. I'm going to see if Q has the exterior filler neck gromet just below the filler cap as well. The interior has a strange smell, and I'm guessing it's fuel vapors. Hopefully, I'll have a bit more time to start fiddling with things. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 1987 300TD 214Kmi emanon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] De-oiling before citric acid flush
So what kind of cleanser/detergent does one use with an aluminum radiator? The manual says neutral and gives some German brands, but that doesn't help too much here in the U.S. What kind of stuff should one use? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] De-oiling before citric acid flush
I've been using automatic dishwasher detergent. It's a good non-sudzing degreaser. -Dave Walton On Jul 3, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: So what kind of cleanser/detergent does one use with an aluminum radiator? The manual says neutral and gives some German brands, but that doesn't help too much here in the U.S. What kind of stuff should one use? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] De-oiling before citric acid flush
On Jul 3, 2012 2:46 PM, Dave Walton walton.d...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using automatic dishwasher detergent. IIRC Marshall recommended Cascade! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dirty oil
When I was driving Hammie the '83 240D and it was leaking a lot of oil I used Car Quest brand 15w40 because it was the absolute cheapest oil I could get. I'd say use something like that and change it a couple times at 1000-1500 mile increments. As always drive it HARD to break up carbon and other nasties. Change the filter at 3,000 miles or so. For extra points throw some oil analysis in there. When I first got my '85 190D oil analysis indicated high iron levels at ~8,000 miles. Continued changes with Mobil 1 and hard driving showed no abnormal iron levels at over 15,000 mile intervals. My conclusion was the engine was carboned up from the loony previous owner and the M1 treatment cleaned it out. -Curt Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 09:57:09 -0700 From: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] dirty oil Message-ID: f06240804cc180d4e2a40@[172.25.104.89] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Use Rotella T 15w40 diesel or another diesel-grade oil that will suspend the nasties and sludge and get it out of the engine. You could also put in a litre of Rislone to clear up the sludge. Clay Monroe wrote: I have about 1k on the recent oil fill in Frosch. Oil is black as night and nasty. Granted, I used rotella 20-50, but being a vergasser, there should not be the diesel sooting up of oil. What is the group consensus on early change of oil? Should I just go ahead and toss in fresh oil and filter, or wait another few thousand? Oil pressure at idle is near nil, but at speed, I have great pressure. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] overheating, heat wave and 300td travel
I need to do the one in my '78 240D but that car is hard on the aluminum washer. I'm hoping it doesn't leak after this but it probably will. I've got some buna-n sheet that I'm going to try cutting a washer out of to see if I can come up with an acceptable replacement since the original is NLA. -Curt Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 13:17:19 -0400 From: Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] overheating, heat wave and 300td travel Message-ID: 6b71af39-7654-4a4f-903e-168ff8049...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Folks OK here's the update I left athens, ga going to savannah, about 9 sunday nite Temps were perfect, with the engine running at about 85 or 90 c running the cold r12 AC Enroute, i started to have fuel delivery problems (i'm running straight WVO). I changed the small fuel filter which was clean. It looked like the fuel line may have been collapsing So i messed around, traveling the georgia darkness at about 40 mph for 20 or 30 miles till i got to a well lit place. I dug deep in my car and found a new spin on fuel filter and filled that with ATF and primed well .presto, 70 mph the rest of the way to savannah It was a troublesome trip, but the travel is the result, i guess!! NOW, for heat wave content, i've been sweating for a day here at the beach since the central ac here at the house is not firing up. The starting capacitor looks blown up (swelled on the top) so i can only hope changing that will fire up the compressor again so i can be cool!! stay cool!! thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] overheating, heat wave and 300td travel
The starting capacitor looks blown up (swelled on the top)... Cap is the most probable cause but also check the relay (contactor) contacts for bugs and dirt. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rick Hawkins Java Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 1:17 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] overheating, heat wave and 300td travel Folks OK here's the update I left athens, ga going to savannah, about 9 sunday nite Temps were perfect, with the engine running at about 85 or 90 c running the cold r12 AC Enroute, i started to have fuel delivery problems (i'm running straight WVO). I changed the small fuel filter which was clean. It looked like the fuel line may have been collapsing So i messed around, traveling the georgia darkness at about 40 mph for 20 or 30 miles till i got to a well lit place. I dug deep in my car and found a new spin on fuel filter and filled that with ATF and primed well .presto, 70 mph the rest of the way to savannah It was a troublesome trip, but the travel is the result, i guess!! NOW, for heat wave content, i've been sweating for a day here at the beach since the central ac here at the house is not firing up. The starting capacitor looks blown up (swelled on the top) so i can only hope changing that will fire up the compressor again so i can be cool!! stay cool!! thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] De-oiling before citric acid flush
I'd be cautious with automatic dishwasher detergent: it is caustic and difficult to rinse off vs. laundry detergent. You do NOT want ANY detergent residue. IIRC, Marshall's favourite was liquid cold-water Tide HE (low-sudsing for front-loading washing machines). Dave Walton wrote: I've been using automatic dishwasher detergent. It's a good non-sudzing degreaser. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] De-oiling before citric acid flush
Dishwasher detergent has a lot of bleach in it, not sure that's necessary. To de-oil I'd favor non-sudsy ammonia. Or maybe simple green? David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca writes: I'd be cautious with automatic dishwasher detergent: it is caustic and difficult to rinse off vs. laundry detergent. You do NOT want ANY detergent residue. IIRC, Marshall's favourite was liquid cold-water Tide HE (low-sudsing for front-loading washing machines). Dave Walton wrote: I've been using automatic dishwasher detergent. It's a good non-sudzing degreaser. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] De-oiling before citric acid flush
On Jul 3, 2012 4:37 PM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: IIRC, Marshall's favourite was liquid cold-water Tide HE (low-sudsing for front-loading washing machines). I think you're right, at that. But I'd probably just use Simple Green since I use it to degrease pretty much everything unless the nuclear option (brake cleaner) seems absolutely necessary. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dirty oil
Swapped it out with castrol 15-50. New oil is less prone to being so low pressure. Got seafoam to put in when I get ready for another change. clay On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:57 AM, David Bruckmann wrote: Use Rotella T 15w40 diesel or another diesel-grade oil that will suspend the nasties and sludge and get it out of the engine. You could also put in a litre of Rislone to clear up the sludge. Clay Monroe wrote: I have about 1k on the recent oil fill in Frosch. Oil is black as night and nasty. Granted, I used rotella 20-50, but being a vergasser, there should not be the diesel sooting up of oil. What is the group consensus on early change of oil? Should I just go ahead and toss in fresh oil and filter, or wait another few thousand? Oil pressure at idle is near nil, but at speed, I have great pressure. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dirty oil
Does the old oil smell like gasoline? clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net writes: Swapped it out with castrol 15-50. New oil is less prone to being so low pressure. Got seafoam to put in when I get ready for another change. clay On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:57 AM, David Bruckmann wrote: Use Rotella T 15w40 diesel or another diesel-grade oil that will suspend the nasties and sludge and get it out of the engine. You could also put in a litre of Rislone to clear up the sludge. Clay Monroe wrote: I have about 1k on the recent oil fill in Frosch. Oil is black as night and nasty. Granted, I used rotella 20-50, but being a vergasser, there should not be the diesel sooting up of oil. What is the group consensus on early change of oil? Should I just go ahead and toss in fresh oil and filter, or wait another few thousand? Oil pressure at idle is near nil, but at speed, I have great pressure. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dirty oil
I assumed there was going to be crud in the engine, so that is why Frosch is getting the cheap stuff for now. Once the oil shows longer life and less gunk, I intend to use M1. Indication that hot pressure will stay up will make me feel better. clay On Jul 3, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: When I was driving Hammie the '83 240D and it was leaking a lot of oil I used Car Quest brand 15w40 because it was the absolute cheapest oil I could get. I'd say use something like that and change it a couple times at 1000-1500 mile increments. As always drive it HARD to break up carbon and other nasties. Change the filter at 3,000 miles or so. For extra points throw some oil analysis in there. When I first got my '85 190D oil analysis indicated high iron levels at ~8,000 miles. Continued changes with Mobil 1 and hard driving showed no abnormal iron levels at over 15,000 mile intervals. My conclusion was the engine was carboned up from the loony previous owner and the M1 treatment cleaned it out. -Curt Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 09:57:09 -0700 From: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] dirty oil Message-ID: f06240804cc180d4e2a40@[172.25.104.89] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Use Rotella T 15w40 diesel or another diesel-grade oil that will suspend the nasties and sludge and get it out of the engine. You could also put in a litre of Rislone to clear up the sludge. Clay Monroe wrote: I have about 1k on the recent oil fill in Frosch. Oil is black as night and nasty. Granted, I used rotella 20-50, but being a vergasser, there should not be the diesel sooting up of oil. What is the group consensus on early change of oil? Should I just go ahead and toss in fresh oil and filter, or wait another few thousand? Oil pressure at idle is near nil, but at speed, I have great pressure. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dirty oil
It smells like worn out oil. Sad that it should after so few miles or time. Not burned, just used. Like M1 after 6k miles in a 220D. No water in the oil, not whipped up or foamy, no excessive gritty feel to it when rubbed between fingers. It is like an oil vampire sucked all the additives out of it and left anemic oil behind clay On Jul 3, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Does the old oil smell like gasoline? clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net writes: Swapped it out with castrol 15-50. New oil is less prone to being so low pressure. Got seafoam to put in when I get ready for another change. clay On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:57 AM, David Bruckmann wrote: Use Rotella T 15w40 diesel or another diesel-grade oil that will suspend the nasties and sludge and get it out of the engine. You could also put in a litre of Rislone to clear up the sludge. Clay Monroe wrote: I have about 1k on the recent oil fill in Frosch. Oil is black as night and nasty. Granted, I used rotella 20-50, but being a vergasser, there should not be the diesel sooting up of oil. What is the group consensus on early change of oil? Should I just go ahead and toss in fresh oil and filter, or wait another few thousand? Oil pressure at idle is near nil, but at speed, I have great pressure. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heat wave
Wilton wrote: Very bearable 88 here right now; better than 100+ of last several days. Almost 100 today. Forecast 100 tomorrow. I mowed the lawn today... with a shovel. I just wanted to get some of the tall weeds out of the brown lawn areas. Look forward to higher ethanol prices and food prices. I doubt any of the cropland in this area grows food and all the crops will be shriveled in a couple weeks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] De-oiling before citric acid flush
What about straight TSP? -Dave Walton On Jul 3, 2012, at 7:37 PM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: I'd be cautious with automatic dishwasher detergent: it is caustic and difficult to rinse off vs. laundry detergent. You do NOT want ANY detergent residue. IIRC, Marshall's favourite was liquid cold-water Tide HE (low-sudsing for front-loading washing machines). Dave Walton wrote: I've been using automatic dishwasher detergent. It's a good non-sudzing degreaser. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dirty oil
I'd just change oil and filter every 500-1000 miles until that stops. If it doesn't get another engine. On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 6:49 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: It smells like worn out oil. Sad that it should after so few miles or time. Not burned, just used. Like M1 after 6k miles in a 220D. No water in the oil, not whipped up or foamy, no excessive gritty feel to it when rubbed between fingers. It is like an oil vampire sucked all the additives out of it and left anemic oil behind clay On Jul 3, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Does the old oil smell like gasoline? clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net writes: Swapped it out with castrol 15-50. New oil is less prone to being so low pressure. Got seafoam to put in when I get ready for another change. clay On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:57 AM, David Bruckmann wrote: Use Rotella T 15w40 diesel or another diesel-grade oil that will suspend the nasties and sludge and get it out of the engine. You could also put in a litre of Rislone to clear up the sludge. Clay Monroe wrote: I have about 1k on the recent oil fill in Frosch. Oil is black as night and nasty. Granted, I used rotella 20-50, but being a vergasser, there should not be the diesel sooting up of oil. What is the group consensus on early change of oil? Should I just go ahead and toss in fresh oil and filter, or wait another few thousand? Oil pressure at idle is near nil, but at speed, I have great pressure. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dirty oil
Dirty oil doesn't clean as well as clean oil. How is the compression? I'd be concerned about any rapid flush products. You may flush your compression. On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: I'd just change oil and filter every 500-1000 miles until that stops. If it doesn't get another engine. On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 6:49 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: It smells like worn out oil. Sad that it should after so few miles or time. Not burned, just used. Like M1 after 6k miles in a 220D. No water in the oil, not whipped up or foamy, no excessive gritty feel to it when rubbed between fingers. It is like an oil vampire sucked all the additives out of it and left anemic oil behind clay On Jul 3, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Does the old oil smell like gasoline? clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net writes: Swapped it out with castrol 15-50. New oil is less prone to being so low pressure. Got seafoam to put in when I get ready for another change. clay On Jul 3, 2012, at 9:57 AM, David Bruckmann wrote: Use Rotella T 15w40 diesel or another diesel-grade oil that will suspend the nasties and sludge and get it out of the engine. You could also put in a litre of Rislone to clear up the sludge. Clay Monroe wrote: I have about 1k on the recent oil fill in Frosch. Oil is black as night and nasty. Granted, I used rotella 20-50, but being a vergasser, there should not be the diesel sooting up of oil. What is the group consensus on early change of oil? Should I just go ahead and toss in fresh oil and filter, or wait another few thousand? Oil pressure at idle is near nil, but at speed, I have great pressure. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] De-oiling before citric acid flush
On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 16:37:42 -0700 David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: I'd be cautious with automatic dishwasher detergent: it is caustic and difficult to rinse off vs. laundry detergent. You do NOT want ANY detergent residue. IIRC, Marshall's favourite was liquid cold-water Tide HE (low-sudsing for front-loading washing machines). I unzipped the archive of Marshall's emails that I have and found nothing on the subject. Maybe the Allens Naturally HE Biodegradable Liquid Laundry Detergent we have for our front-loader would do the job. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] De-oiling before citric acid flush
Craig wrote: I unzipped the archive of Marshall's emails that I have and found nothing on the subject. Maybe the Allens Naturally HE Biodegradable Liquid Laundry Detergent we have for our front-loader would do the job. From a Marshall post. Subject: Re: [DIESEL] Citric flushFrom: Marshall Booth mboo...@pitt.eduDate: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 11:54:06 -0400The citric acid fluid is to remove mineral deposits. To de-oil (that's a DIFFERENT procedure) the engine a dishwasher detergent is about as good as you can get! Marshall -- Marshall Booth der Dieseling Doktor mboo...@pitt.edu '87 300TD 154Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 205Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 224Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 154Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 200+kmi, '84 190D 2.2 234Kmi dismantled Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm __ To unsubscribe: see http://lists.mbz.org/diesel/ Archives are at http://lists.mbz.org/diesel/archives/ MBZ.ORG official parts vendor: http://parts.catalog.mbz.org eBay specials: http://ebay.mbz.org Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] De-oiling before citric acid flush
On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 19:41:42 -0700 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: From a Marshall post. Subject: Re: [DIESEL] Citric flushFrom: Marshall Booth mbooth +@pitt.eduDate: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 11:54:06 -0400The citric acid fluid is to remove mineral deposits. To de-oil (that's a DIFFERENT procedure) the engine a dishwasher detergent is about as good as you can get! Silly me, I was looking for RADIATOR flush, not CITRIC flush. I found that posting, as well as another which says, - Read section 20-015 in the 601 engine manual (or the same section in other manuals) on cleaning the cooling system or any chemistry text on dissolving salt scale. Citric acid (or any acid) will allow the lime/calcium/scale to go into solution. It does NOTHING for oil. A deoiling compound is required. Mercedes lists one available in Europe. Liquid Tide works rather well and I expect that Blue Dawn dishwashing detergent would work but I've never tried it for that purpose. and yet another one which says, The Citra-Solv MIGHT make a good de-oiler, but Blue Dawn, Tide or Spic and Span are cheaper and should do as good a job. He also said, Dave, Checking 3 different MB engine manuals, MB recommends a 10% (by weight) citric acid solution. That's 100g per liter of water or 1 kg per 10 liters and that's 2.2 lbs per 2.6 gallons. My belief that anything from 50% of that to 200% of that stands! They want to to be filled in and then the engine run (with a blocked open thermostat) and heated to at least 80 deg. C and then allowed cool to 50 deg. C. before draining and then the system MUST be flushed 3 times with the water allowed to heat of for each flush! The heat and time is probably MORE important that the precise concentration of the mix. Regarding removing the thermostat or using one that's been forced open, the Service Manual, Engines 615, 616, 617.91, says in Section 20-015 to remove the thermostat. The W124 manual, however, in Section 20-0150 says to remove the thermostat and install the pressure-opened thermostat part no. 000 589 74 63 00. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] De-oiling before citric acid flush
On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Silly me, I was looking for RADIATOR flush, not CITRIC flush. I found that posting, as well as another which says, I just searched for flush in the subject lines. Your archives appear to be WAY more complete than mine. I do remember reading those posts when they were posted, but I don't have them archived. If you could send me your zip file offlist that would be great. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] De-oiling before citric acid flush
On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Regarding removing the thermostat or using one that's been forced open, the Service Manual, Engines 615, 616, 617.91, says in Section 20-015 to remove the thermostat. The W124 manual, however, in Section 20-0150 says to remove the thermostat and install the pressure-opened thermostat part no. 000 589 74 63 00. Which explains where the forced open thermostat theory comes from. I figured it was left over misinformation from the R/E list. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] De-oiling before citric acid flush
On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 22:24:34 -0500 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Silly me, I was looking for RADIATOR flush, not CITRIC flush. I found that posting, as well as another which says, I just searched for flush in the subject lines. Your archives appear to be WAY more complete than mine. I do remember reading those posts when they were posted, but I don't have them archived. If you could send me your zip file offlist that would be great. Well, the zip file is 13 megabytes. The unzipped directory is 39 megabytes, so zipping does compress it. I'm not quite sure how to send it to you. (If I were at the Lab, I could send an email that was 100,000,000 bytes, but not here at home.) Did you try searching for citric? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] De-oiling before citric acid flush
Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: I just searched for flush in the subject lines. Your archives appear to be WAY more complete than mine. I do remember reading those posts when they were posted, but I don't have them archived. If you could send me your zip file offlist that would be great. Craig wrote: Well, the zip file is 13 megabytes. The unzipped directory is 39 megabytes, so zipping does compress it. I'm not quite sure how to send it to you. (If I were at the Lab, I could send an email that was 100,000,000 bytes, but not here at home.) If that's the archive that is a bunch of HTML files of only the messages Marshall wrote, then it's probably the one I built. I have it available at http://www.host-a.net/u/fmiser File name is marshall-mail.zip -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] De-oiling before citric acid flush
On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 23:15:42 -0500 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Craig wrote: Well, the zip file is 13 megabytes. The unzipped directory is 39 megabytes, so zipping does compress it. I'm not quite sure how to send it to you. (If I were at the Lab, I could send an email that was 100,000,000 bytes, but not here at home.) If that's the archive that is a bunch of HTML files of only the messages Marshall wrote, then it's probably the one I built. I have it available at http://www.host-a.net/u/fmiser File name is marshall-mail.zip Yup, that's what the zip file is named. It also has 19 selected PDFs of how to use Diesel Purge and sections of manuals. -r--r--r-- 1 craig 1312 Apr 27 2009 marshall-mail.zip Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] De-oiling before citric acid flush
On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:31 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Well, the zip file is 13 megabytes. The unzipped directory is 39 megabytes, so zipping does compress it. I'm not quite sure how to send it to you. If it's Philip's that is the one I have already. I used to know of a site to transfer large files... Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] De-oiling before citric acid flush
Craig wrote: Well, the zip file is 13 megabytes. The unzipped directory is 39 megabytes, so zipping does compress it. I'm not quite sure how to send it to you. (If I were at the Lab, I could send an email that was 100,000,000 bytes, but not here at home.) Found it. http://www.yousendit.com/ Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Marshall mail archive. was: De-oiling before citric acid flush
Craig wrote: Well, the zip file is 13 megabytes. Fmiser wrote: If that's the archive that is a bunch of HTML files of only the messages Marshall wrote, then it's probably the one I built. I have it available at http://www.host-a.net/u/fmiser File name is marshall-mail.zip Craig wrote: Yup, that's what the zip file is named. It also has 19 selected PDFs of how to use Diesel Purge and sections of manuals. -r--r--r-- 1 craig 1312 Apr 27 2009 marshall-mail.zip The size is a perfect match. Mine has an older date though. -r--r--r-- 1 fmiser fmiser 1312 2007-12-04 marshall-mail.zip So Rick, you can just go download it. Unless that's the one you have already. *smiles* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] G-05
Max wrote: Can be found at NAPA here in South Carolina. Dieselhead in central IA wrote: NAPA here stocks it Oreally does not have it and won't order it. I checked NAPA. They looked at me funny and and said huh?. AutoZone was no better. O'Reilly has it in stock - but behind the counter, not on display with the other products. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Zo Papa, how do you like the IPAD I bought you?
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