Re: [MBZ] ouch -- Hey Max!

[Rich Thomas]

Seriously, I was thinking that engine would be worth having for 
something.  275hp in a fairly tight package.  I suppose you would need 
the tranny and driveshaft and diff and axles and steering/suspension 
just to make it a whole transplant into some kind of rat rod.   But that 
would be cool.


I gotta quit thinking about this or I will be divorced with a trashed 
E430 to live in.  Or just the hulk of it once I strip off the goodies.  
And like I have a shortage of projects.


--R

On 10/24/12 11:07 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
Mwhatever powered hot tub, with sliding sunroof, Becker stereo, 
powered retracting antenna, towel fans (windshield wipers) heater, air 
conditioning, powered leather lounge seating, cupholders, lights, 
powered enclosure windows,  aroma-therapy pump (windshield washer pump 
and reservoir), and a flip top bar (trunk)




interesting idea.  maybe a 430-powered hot tub.

--R

On 10/24/12 8:24 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
you guys are tempting me though if I only paid $500 I would also 
have to pay hell if I dragged that thing home.  Though if I quickly 
dismantled it and stashed the bits out back somewhere, then hauled 
off the carcass...


--R
 Isn't there a way to state that it is necessary for completion of 
the house.  Need struts and diff for some component you have 
designed?  A rotating deck?  Standby power?


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Re: [MBZ] ouch -- Hey Max!

[Dieselhead]

Mwhatever powered hot tub, with sliding sunroof, Becker stereo, 
powered retracting antenna, towel fans (windshield wipers) heater, 
air conditioning, powered leather lounge seating, cupholders, lights, 
powered enclosure windows,  aroma-therapy pump (windshield washer 
pump and reservoir), and a flip top bar (trunk)




interesting idea.  maybe a 430-powered hot tub.

--R

On 10/24/12 8:24 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
you guys are tempting me though if I only paid $500 I would also 
have to pay hell if I dragged that thing home.  Though if I 
quickly dismantled it and stashed the bits out back somewhere, 
then hauled off the carcass...


--R
 Isn't there a way to state that it is necessary for completion of 
the house.  Need struts and diff for some component you have 
designed?  A rotating deck?  Standby power?


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Re: [MBZ] sometimes things get worse and worse REST of the STORY

[Rick Hawkins Java]

Grant,

I like what you are saying.

It could be the case that the WVO sucks

It has all been settled in the hot sun in 275 gal cubes for a month or  
more, but i am closer to the dregs than i have been in the past.


I may just drain all the grease from the tank and dump in 5 gal of  
diesel


thanks

xx rick
From: G Mann 
Date: October 24, 2012 12:14:16 PM EDT
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] sometimes things get worse and worse REST of the  
STORY

Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 


Having processed a few hundred thousand gallons of Waste Veg Oil into  
Bio
Diesel I can state that not all WVO is the same. There are many  
variants in
the different vegetable oils which affect flow rate, cloud point, and  
gell

point.

If the only treatment you are giving your supply of WVO is filteration  
and
perhaps de-watering, it is likely you have picked up a load of oil  
that is

high content animal fat, or perhaps coconut oil, or something other than
what you have been running.

I would suspect water content first. The fuel supply problems you  
describe

[via my internet xray vision of course] seem to mimic a ball of water
somewhere in your fuel supply line. Water. being heavier than the oil,  
will
act as a shutoff valve while you drive, depending on the size of the  
bubble
of water, it may let "some" fuel pass, so the engine runs but doesn't  
make

full power.

High animal fat content oil will act much the same as water, in that it
blocks fuel flow when a "bubble" drops out of suspension. Since that
"bubble" of animal fat [or some other kind of vegetable oil with a high
gell point] is "temp sensitive" it's harder to diagnose than water
contamination..

Sounds like you have had a good run with WVO for past 5 years, but now  
it's

time to pay the piper.  Murphy came for a visit..

If I were having your problem set, I would remove the supply hose at the
engine and attach a supply line to a completely fresh tank [boat tank
perhaps?] of pure pump diesel. Remove and replace all the fuel filters,
start, run, drive the car. IF engine power and performance is "suddenly
restored" then you get to work backwards to the tank of WVO you  
presently

have to find your problem.

Good luck, keep save.

Grant...



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Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD tach & AC now working

[Rich Thomas]

Walla!

--R

On 10/24/12 10:20 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Congrats, and thanks for not writing "viola"!

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

I drilled out an extra hole in the 4-pin female receptacle for the
overload protection relay (original = 126 540 47 45) so it would accept the
replacement 5-pin overload protection relay (replacement = 201 540 08
45,Note: this 5th hole is not connected to anything) and voila both my tach
& AC are now working.

G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC



Great work!  congrats!


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Re: [MBZ] ouch -- Hey Max!

[Rich Thomas]

interesting idea.  maybe a 430-powered hot tub.

--R

On 10/24/12 8:24 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
you guys are tempting me though if I only paid $500 I would also have 
to pay hell if I dragged that thing home.  Though if I quickly 
dismantled it and stashed the bits out back somewhere, then hauled 
off the carcass...


--R
 Isn't there a way to state that it is necessary for completion of the 
house.  Need struts and diff for some component you have designed?  A 
rotating deck?  Standby power?


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Re: [MBZ] Car For Someone

[Dimitri Seretakis]

Andrew is a miso116ist. My parents had a w116 with 330,000 miles on the clock 
and the interior was just fine.
The 6.9 was a bit heavy as compared with a w109 6.3 which was a veritable 
rocket by comparison.  

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 24, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Rick Knoble  wrote:

On Oct 24, 2012, at 9:19 PM, "andrew strasfogel"  wrote:

Way overhyped.  Due to their fragile interiors they must never be
driven anywhere the sun shines.  Most 6.9s on the market fail this
test and should be avoided like the plague.


Huh?
I thought the 6.9, however expensive to maintain correctly and own, is the Holy 
Grail of Mercedes, surpassed only by the 600 Pullman. 

Rick
Who is... Puzzled...

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Re: [MBZ] Car For Someone

[Rick Knoble]

On Oct 24, 2012, at 9:19 PM, "andrew strasfogel"  wrote:

> Way overhyped.  Due to their fragile interiors they must never be
> driven anywhere the sun shines.  Most 6.9s on the market fail this
> test and should be avoided like the plague.


Huh?
I thought the 6.9, however expensive to maintain correctly and own, is the Holy 
Grail of Mercedes, surpassed only by the 600 Pullman. 

Rick
Who is... Puzzled...

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Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD tach & AC now working

[andrew strasfogel]

Congrats, and thanks for not writing "viola"!

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I drilled out an extra hole in the 4-pin female receptacle for the
>> overload protection relay (original = 126 540 47 45) so it would accept the
>> replacement 5-pin overload protection relay (replacement = 201 540 08
>> 45,Note: this 5th hole is not connected to anything) and voila both my tach
>> & AC are now working.
>>
>> G. M. Brown
>> Brevard, NC
>
>
>
> Great work!  congrats!
>
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Re: [MBZ] Car For Someone

[andrew strasfogel]

Way overhyped.  Due to their fragile interiors they must never be
driven anywhere the sun shines.  Most 6.9s on the market fail this
test and should be avoided like the plague.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> THAT is a car that deserves better.  Someone should restore it. Oughta be a
> prince or sheek somewhere with the bucks.  Anyone got Jay's phone number?
>
>>
>> http://item.mobileOverhypedweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=121000177629&kw=121000177629
>>
>> That's better. M100 anyone?
>>
>> Rick
>> Sent from my Uboat Phone
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

[Dieselhead]

Well, I thought about  adding  "does not apply to W123..."   but 
decided to let it lie.




On Oct 24, 2012, at 7:30 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:


 the spec for runout with the dial indicator is for crisp handling.



Crisp handling
On a 123?
Surely you jest.
Maybe I need a new steering box...

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] For All You Sun Computer People - OT

[Rolf]

Surely linux still has a sparc build?

Sent via string from my tin can.

Allan Streib  wrote:

>That thing will probably suck a LOT of power.  And according to
>Wikipedia the V890 had UltraSPARC processors, and it's also EOL-ed so no
>support or parts other than what you can find on the secondhand market.
>
>I don't think any VMWare stuff will run on Sparc.  But not certain.
>
>I think you be better off with a more power-efficient, newer Intel or
>AMD-based host.
>
>Allan
>
>
>Dan Penoff  writes:
>
>> I have recently acquired a Sunfire V890 server with all the fixin's from our 
>> library circulation system.
>>
>> I know nothing about Sun systems, other than this one was running a mother 
>> of an Oracle database (all of the library materials for the school district.)
>>
>> I am wondering if there is a way I could retask it to be a host in one of 
>> our VM clusters, and/or if it's capable of running esxi v5.0 or lower.
>>
>> If there are any IT geeks out there that might know what I can do with this 
>> beast, I would love to hear your suggestions.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dan
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

[Rick Knoble]

On Oct 24, 2012, at 7:30 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> the spec for runout with the dial indicator is for crisp handling.


Crisp handling 
On a 123?
Surely you jest. 
Maybe I need a new steering box...

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

[Dieselhead]

Agreed.  I have always used molykote BR200 gun grease, and have not 
had a failure in 30+ years.  I am not sure about bearing numbers in 
the 123/124/126 and newer cars, but 108 and before were the same as 
in crypsler/plymie/dogde and other mercun cars.  No magic there.  THe 
gun grease tends to weep, but I sure like having the moly on the 
surfaces.  Much slicker (clintoner?) than plain grease, even 
syngrease.


the spec for runout with the dial indicator is for crisp handling.



If it saves you the effort, a half tube (which I think is a small 
bit more than the specified amount) ends up packing the bearings, 
leaving a bit smeared in the hub, and then some excess here and 
there like on the axle stub.  I think as long as the whole hub is 
not packed full with grease, there will be some room for it to move 
around and not cause whatever problems.  A tube is like 2x the size 
of a toothpaste tube, so about a toothpaste tube amount of grease 
would be about right, maybe a bit more than that.


I recall the Marshall admonition on the proper amount, and getting 
it down to the last fraction of a gram or something, and it did not 
make a great impression on me as being other than "that is what 
Mercedes specifies so that is what you do."  The dire warnings about 
having too much just did not move me much.  There is such a thing as 
being obsessive, and just greasing the bearing and getting on with 
life.


--R


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Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD tach & AC now working

[Dieselhead]

I drilled out an extra hole in the 4-pin female receptacle for the 
overload protection relay (original = 126 540 47 45) so it would 
accept the replacement 5-pin overload protection relay (replacement 
= 201 540 08 45,Note: this 5th hole is not connected to anything) 
and voila both my tach & AC are now working.


G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC



Great work!  congrats!

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Re: [MBZ] ouch -- Hey Max!

[Dieselhead]

you guys are tempting me though if I only paid $500 I would also 
have to pay hell if I dragged that thing home.  Though if I quickly 
dismantled it and stashed the bits out back somewhere, then hauled 
off the carcass...


--R
 Isn't there a way to state that it is necessary for completion of 
the house.  Need struts and diff for some component you have 
designed?  A rotating deck?  Standby power?


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Re: [MBZ] Car For Someone

[Dieselhead]

THAT is a car that deserves better.  Someone should restore it. 
Oughta be a prince or sheek somewhere with the bucks.  Anyone got 
Jay's phone number?



http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=121000177629&kw=121000177629

That's better. M100 anyone?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD tach & AC now working

[WILTON]

ATTABOY!
Take a photo for "There, I Fixed It?"

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "G. M. Brown" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 6:26 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 1985 300TD tach & AC now working




I drilled out an extra hole in the 4-pin female receptacle for the 
overload protection relay (original = 126 540 47 45) so it would accept 
the replacement 5-pin overload protection relay (replacement = 201 540 08 
45,Note: this 5th hole is not connected to anything) and voila both my 
tach & AC are now working.


G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC
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Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD tach & AC now working

[Rich Thomas]

Excellent hack

--R

On 10/24/12 6:26 PM, G. M. Brown wrote:

I drilled out an extra hole in the 4-pin female receptacle for the overload 
protection relay (original = 126 540 47 45) so it would accept the replacement 
5-pin overload protection relay (replacement = 201 540 08 45,Note: this 5th hole is 
not connected to anything) and voila both my tach & AC are now working.
  
G. M. Brown

Brevard, NC 
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[MBZ] 1985 300TD tach & AC now working

[G. M. Brown]

I drilled out an extra hole in the 4-pin female receptacle for the overload 
protection relay (original = 126 540 47 45) so it would accept the replacement 
5-pin overload protection relay (replacement = 201 540 08 45,Note: this 5th 
hole is not connected to anything) and voila both my tach & AC are now working.
 
G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC   
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Re: [MBZ] Car For Someone

[Mitch Haley]

Rick Knoble wrote:

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=121000177629&kw=121000177629

That's better. M100 anyone?


Are 15" bundts still worth $xxx each?
That would make the current bid on wheels alone.

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Re: [MBZ] Car For Someone

[Rick Knoble]

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=121000177629&kw=121000177629

That's better. M100 anyone?

Rick
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On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:36 PM, "Rick Knoble"  wrote:

> Not mine, etc. 
> 
> End time: Oct 25, 2012 11:55:58 AM CDT
> 
> 
> View item:
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> 
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[MBZ] Car For Someone

[Rick Knoble]

Not mine, etc. 

End time: Oct 25, 2012 11:55:58 AM CDT


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Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD?

[WILTON]

'Think I did; 'can't be sure.

Wilton

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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD?



WILTON wrote:

How 'bout "probly?";<)


Ever hear parbably when you were in Michigan?

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

[WILTON]

Yeah, that's neat - I take my bearing packers with me everywhere I go.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?



I like to use a bearing packer. These people have bulk Mercedes spec wheel
grease - $10 for 400g:

http://www.eurotruck-importers.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1322

http://www.amazon.com/Lisle-34550-Handy-Packer-Bearing/dp/B0002NYDYO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351112741&sr=8-1&keywords=Bearing+packer

Cleaning out all the old grease with a solvent and filling the bearing 
with

new stuff probably has more to do with longevity than the specific grease
you use in my opinion. Blast the bearing with air to make sure you get all
the solvent out before you repack.

-Dave Walton


On Wednesday, October 24, 2012, Rich Thomas wrote:

If it saves you the effort, a half tube (which I think is a small bit 
more

than the specified amount) ends up packing the bearings, leaving a bit
smeared in the hub, and then some excess here and there like on the axle
stub.  I think as long as the whole hub is not packed full with grease,
there will be some room for it to move around and not cause whatever
problems.  A tube is like 2x the size of a toothpaste tube, so about a
toothpaste tube amount of grease would be about right, maybe a bit more
than that.

I recall the Marshall admonition on the proper amount, and getting it 
down

to the last fraction of a gram or something, and it did not make a great
impression on me as being other than "that is what Mercedes specifies so
that is what you do."  The dire warnings about having too much just did 
not
move me much.  There is such a thing as being obsessive, and just 
greasing

the bearing and getting on with life.

--R

On 10/24/12 4:36 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:


I was trying to avoid going to Harbor Freight. I hate Worcester...

The one in question is under $10 and shipping is free because I'm an
Amazon Prime member.

-Curt


Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:04:09 -0400
From: Michael Canfield 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?
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I have seen the little ones at Harbor Freight on sale for under ten 
bucks.

They are actually quite accurate.

Mike
On Oct 24, 2012 11:56 AM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:

 Do you know anyone with an office and a postal scale?
I have adigital scale intended for that purpose and I expect it would 
be

accurate enough.
Don't recall what I paid for it but I got it at a big box office supply
place - probably Staples.

Randy


On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

 How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?


My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how
accurate do I have to be?

I'm thinking about http://www.amazon.com/
American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*
*Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_**1_**2?ie=UTF8&qid=1351043590&**sr=8-**
2&keywords=digital+scalehttp://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1351043590&sr=8-2&keywords=digital+scale>
>

which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so 
of
variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could 
be

in
1 gram?

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

[Craig]

On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:11:56 -0400 dave walton 
wrote:

> Cleaning out all the old grease with a solvent and filling the bearing
> with new stuff probably has more to do with longevity than the specific
> grease you use in my opinion. Blast the bearing with air to make sure
> you get all the solvent out before you repack.

When you blast the bearing with air DO NOT let the bearing spin!!!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] ouch -- Hey Max!

[WILTON]

Yeah, but first, ya gotta get past that reaction of the first day/night or 
two.   ;<)
Now, if you had a suitable building "off site" and could get home as clean 
as when you leave - - ---

'Course, Id never do such a thing.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ouch -- Hey Max!


you guys are tempting me though if I only paid $500 I would also have to 
pay hell if I dragged that thing home.  Though if I quickly dismantled it 
and stashed the bits out back somewhere, then hauled off the carcass...


--R

On 10/24/12 4:59 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Michael Canfield wrote:

Last time I saw scrap prices it's worth near $500 at the crusher.


It's come back up, they were down to 8c a pound this spring IIRC.

At any rate, if a dismantler pays you 3/4 of melt value you're probably 
doing good.




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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

[WILTON]

I never weighed it to the gram or fraction thereof to pack B-47 aircraft or 
'51 and '56 Chevy wheel bearings;

never heard of a problem with any I packed.  Lucky again, I guess.  ;<)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?


If it saves you the effort, a half tube (which I think is a small bit more 
than the specified amount) ends up packing the bearings, leaving a bit 
smeared in the hub, and then some excess here and there like on the axle 
stub.  I think as long as the whole hub is not packed full with grease, 
there will be some room for it to move around and not cause whatever 
problems.  A tube is like 2x the size of a toothpaste tube, so about a 
toothpaste tube amount of grease would be about right, maybe a bit more 
than that.


I recall the Marshall admonition on the proper amount, and getting it down 
to the last fraction of a gram or something, and it did not make a great 
impression on me as being other than "that is what Mercedes specifies so 
that is what you do."  The dire warnings about having too much just did 
not move me much.  There is such a thing as being obsessive, and just 
greasing the bearing and getting on with life.


--R

On 10/24/12 4:36 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

I was trying to avoid going to Harbor Freight. I hate Worcester...

The one in question is under $10 and shipping is free because I'm an 
Amazon Prime member.


-Curt


Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:04:09 -0400
From: Michael Canfield 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?
Message-ID:
 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I have seen the little ones at Harbor Freight on sale for under ten 
bucks.

They are actually quite accurate.

Mike
On Oct 24, 2012 11:56 AM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:


Do you know anyone with an office and a postal scale?
I have adigital scale intended for that purpose and I expect it would be
accurate enough.
Don't recall what I paid for it but I got it at a big box office supply
place - probably Staples.

Randy


On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:


How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how
accurate do I have to be?

I'm thinking about 
http://www.amazon.com/**American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*

*Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_**2?ie=UTF8&qid=1351043590&sr=8-**
2&keywords=digital+scale

which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so 
of
variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be 
in

1 gram?

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

[Craig]

On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:55:37 -0400 Rich Thomas
 wrote:

> A tube is like 2x the size of a toothpaste tube, so about a toothpaste
> tube amount of grease would be about right, maybe a bit more than that.

It depends upon the size of the tube of toothpaste you have. :-)

When I did the front wheel bearings on our 240D/3.0, I had one of the
tubes of MB green grease. In weighing it out with our gram scale, I had a
little of the tube left over.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

[dave walton]

I like to use a bearing packer. These people have bulk Mercedes spec wheel
grease - $10 for 400g:

http://www.eurotruck-importers.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1322

http://www.amazon.com/Lisle-34550-Handy-Packer-Bearing/dp/B0002NYDYO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351112741&sr=8-1&keywords=Bearing+packer

Cleaning out all the old grease with a solvent and filling the bearing with
new stuff probably has more to do with longevity than the specific grease
you use in my opinion. Blast the bearing with air to make sure you get all
the solvent out before you repack.

-Dave Walton


On Wednesday, October 24, 2012, Rich Thomas wrote:

> If it saves you the effort, a half tube (which I think is a small bit more
> than the specified amount) ends up packing the bearings, leaving a bit
> smeared in the hub, and then some excess here and there like on the axle
> stub.  I think as long as the whole hub is not packed full with grease,
> there will be some room for it to move around and not cause whatever
> problems.  A tube is like 2x the size of a toothpaste tube, so about a
> toothpaste tube amount of grease would be about right, maybe a bit more
> than that.
>
> I recall the Marshall admonition on the proper amount, and getting it down
> to the last fraction of a gram or something, and it did not make a great
> impression on me as being other than "that is what Mercedes specifies so
> that is what you do."  The dire warnings about having too much just did not
> move me much.  There is such a thing as being obsessive, and just greasing
> the bearing and getting on with life.
>
> --R
>
> On 10/24/12 4:36 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>
>> I was trying to avoid going to Harbor Freight. I hate Worcester...
>>
>> The one in question is under $10 and shipping is free because I'm an
>> Amazon Prime member.
>>
>> -Curt
>>
>>
>> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:04:09 -0400
>> From: Michael Canfield 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?
>> Message-ID:
>>  
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> I have seen the little ones at Harbor Freight on sale for under ten bucks.
>> They are actually quite accurate.
>>
>> Mike
>> On Oct 24, 2012 11:56 AM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:
>>
>>  Do you know anyone with an office and a postal scale?
>>> I have adigital scale intended for that purpose and I expect it would be
>>> accurate enough.
>>> Don't recall what I paid for it but I got it at a big box office supply
>>> place - probably Staples.
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>>>
>>>  How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

 My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how
 accurate do I have to be?

 I'm thinking about http://www.amazon.com/
 American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*
 *Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_**1_**2?ie=UTF8&qid=1351043590&**sr=8-**
 2&keywords=digital+scale>>> Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/**B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&**
 qid=1351043590&sr=8-2&**keywords=digital+scale
 >

 which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
 reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of
 variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be
 in
 1 gram?

 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] ouch -- Hey Max!

[Rich Thomas]

you guys are tempting me though if I only paid $500 I would also have to 
pay hell if I dragged that thing home.  Though if I quickly dismantled 
it and stashed the bits out back somewhere, then hauled off the carcass...


--R

On 10/24/12 4:59 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Michael Canfield wrote:

Last time I saw scrap prices it's worth near $500 at the crusher.


It's come back up, they were down to 8c a pound this spring IIRC.

At any rate, if a dismantler pays you 3/4 of melt value you're 
probably doing good.




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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

[Dimitri Seretakis]

I can guarantee you that no mechanic even at a dealership ever would or ever 
did weigh out the grease. Not saying I wouldn't just for the fun of it but it's 
probably a waste of time.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Rich Thomas  
wrote:

If it saves you the effort, a half tube (which I think is a small bit more than 
the specified amount) ends up packing the bearings, leaving a bit smeared in 
the hub, and then some excess here and there like on the axle stub.  I think as 
long as the whole hub is not packed full with grease, there will be some room 
for it to move around and not cause whatever problems.  A tube is like 2x the 
size of a toothpaste tube, so about a toothpaste tube amount of grease would be 
about right, maybe a bit more than that.

I recall the Marshall admonition on the proper amount, and getting it down to 
the last fraction of a gram or something, and it did not make a great 
impression on me as being other than "that is what Mercedes specifies so that 
is what you do."  The dire warnings about having too much just did not move me 
much.  There is such a thing as being obsessive, and just greasing the bearing 
and getting on with life.

--R

On 10/24/12 4:36 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
I was trying to avoid going to Harbor Freight. I hate Worcester...

The one in question is under $10 and shipping is free because I'm an Amazon 
Prime member.

-Curt


Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:04:09 -0400
From: Michael Canfield 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I have seen the little ones at Harbor Freight on sale for under ten bucks.
They are actually quite accurate.

Mike
On Oct 24, 2012 11:56 AM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:

Do you know anyone with an office and a postal scale?
I have adigital scale intended for that purpose and I expect it would be
accurate enough.
Don't recall what I paid for it but I got it at a big box office supply
place - probably Staples.

Randy


On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how
accurate do I have to be?

I'm thinking about http://www.amazon.com/**American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*
*Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_**2?ie=UTF8&qid=1351043590&sr=8-**
2&keywords=digital+scale

which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of
variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be in
1 gram?

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] ouch -- Hey Max!

[Mitch Haley]

Michael Canfield wrote:

Last time I saw scrap prices it's worth near $500 at the crusher.


It's come back up, they were down to 8c a pound this spring IIRC.

At any rate, if a dismantler pays you 3/4 of melt value you're probably doing 
good.



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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

[Rich Thomas]

If it saves you the effort, a half tube (which I think is a small bit 
more than the specified amount) ends up packing the bearings, leaving a 
bit smeared in the hub, and then some excess here and there like on the 
axle stub.  I think as long as the whole hub is not packed full with 
grease, there will be some room for it to move around and not cause 
whatever problems.  A tube is like 2x the size of a toothpaste tube, so 
about a toothpaste tube amount of grease would be about right, maybe a 
bit more than that.


I recall the Marshall admonition on the proper amount, and getting it 
down to the last fraction of a gram or something, and it did not make a 
great impression on me as being other than "that is what Mercedes 
specifies so that is what you do."  The dire warnings about having too 
much just did not move me much.  There is such a thing as being 
obsessive, and just greasing the bearing and getting on with life.


--R

On 10/24/12 4:36 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

I was trying to avoid going to Harbor Freight. I hate Worcester...

The one in question is under $10 and shipping is free because I'm an Amazon 
Prime member.

-Curt


Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:04:09 -0400
From: Michael Canfield 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?
Message-ID:
 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I have seen the little ones at Harbor Freight on sale for under ten bucks.
They are actually quite accurate.

Mike
On Oct 24, 2012 11:56 AM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:


Do you know anyone with an office and a postal scale?
I have adigital scale intended for that purpose and I expect it would be
accurate enough.
Don't recall what I paid for it but I got it at a big box office supply
place - probably Staples.

Randy


On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:


How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how
accurate do I have to be?

I'm thinking about http://www.amazon.com/**American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*
*Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_**2?ie=UTF8&qid=1351043590&sr=8-**
2&keywords=digital+scale

which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of
variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be in
1 gram?

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

[Curt Raymond]

I was trying to avoid going to Harbor Freight. I hate Worcester...

The one in question is under $10 and shipping is free because I'm an Amazon 
Prime member.

-Curt


Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:04:09 -0400
From: Michael Canfield 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I have seen the little ones at Harbor Freight on sale for under ten bucks.
They are actually quite accurate.

Mike
On Oct 24, 2012 11:56 AM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:

>
> Do you know anyone with an office and a postal scale?
> I have adigital scale intended for that purpose and I expect it would be
> accurate enough.
> Don't recall what I paid for it but I got it at a big box office supply
> place - probably Staples.
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>
>> How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?
>>
>> My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how
>> accurate do I have to be?
>>
>> I'm thinking about http://www.amazon.com/**American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*
>> *Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_**2?ie=UTF8&qid=1351043590&sr=8-**
>> 2&keywords=digital+scale
>>
>> which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
>> reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of
>> variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be in
>> 1 gram?
>>
>> -Curt
>>

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

[Curt Raymond]

IIRC Marshall specified synthetic grease but would begrudgingly admit that 
Mobil 1 synthetic grease was good stuff.

I suspect any good name brand grease would be fine, I doubt synthetic grease 
was available when my car was made in '77.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:57:23 -0500
From: Randy Bennell 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?
Message-ID: <50880fe3.2000...@bennell.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?
>
> My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how accurate 
> do I have to be?
>
> I'm thinking about 
> http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1351043590&sr=8-2&keywords=digital+scale
>
> which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The 
> reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of 
> variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be in 1 
> gram?
>
> -Curt
>
> ___
>
2nd part of my response.

So, is there any reason I need to find MB wheel bearing grease?
Is there any good reason not to use a good quality wheel bearing grease 
without their label?
I have been using a full synthetic grease for years in other vehicles 
and have had no issues.

Randy who does not have the special sunroof grease either

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Re: [MBZ] ouch -- Hey Max!

[Michael Canfield]

Last time I saw scrap prices it's worth near $500 at the crusher.

Mike
On Oct 24, 2012 4:00 PM, "Mitch Haley"  wrote:

> Rich Thomas wrote:
>
>> HM
>>
>>
>> Can you beat 1200
>>
>
> He's been taking offers, or wants you to think he's been offered 1200?
> I'm thinking a yard might give him $300.
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

[Curt Raymond]

If I had a dealer close by I'd go for it. Rusty says its expensive for him to 
ship to me. I did get him to send me a couple tubes a couple years ago. The 
tubes are super convenient though.

Last time I did one I used Mobil 1 synthetic grease (the pink stuff) and just 
guestomated the amount but now I want to do it right. I figure to scoop it out 
of the tub with a spoon into a little plastic container...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 22:48:42 -0400
From: Rich Thomas 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?
Message-ID: <5087570a.5030...@constructivity.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

One tube does 2 fronts.  Get a tube, squeeze out about half for one 
side, then half for the other side.  Close enough.

--R

On 10/23/12 10:44 PM, Craig wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
>  wrote:
>
>> How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?
> IIRC (which I may not) the quantity is 60 grams. My manuals, however, are
> packed up and in a storage container on our driveway, so I cannot look it
> up.
>
>
>> I'm thinking about
>> http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1351043590&sr=8-2&keywords=digital+scale
>>
>> which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
>> reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so
>> of variance which I think is probably acceptable,
> It says the tolerance is +- 0.2 gram. That's more than good enough.
>
>
> Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD?

[Michael Canfield]

Probly not.

Mike
On Oct 24, 2012 4:05 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:

> How 'bout "probly?";<)
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <
> astrasfo...@gmail.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD?
>
>
>  I would never buy anything from someone who shortens the perfectly
>> good "probably" with the execrable "prolly."
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
>>
>>> WILTON wrote:
>>>

 NEW tranny?  So, how does that work out - the car is a gift, or is he
 "paying" somebody to take it?
 In effect, 'sounds like paying somebody to take it?

>>>
>>>
>>> Good point. More than $1500 worth of work currently being done on it,
>>> with a
>>> $1500 price tag?
>>>
>>> Maybe he's just mathematically challenged.
>>>
>>> Odometer reads "104xxx k mi which is probably 204xxx"?
>>> If the odometer reads to six digits, why does he think it rolled over
>>> once
>>> at 100k? (more likely, it quit working at some point in its life and
>>> mileage
>>> is entirely unknown, but it'd be rare to lose 100k that way)
>>>
>>> Mitch.
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[MBZ] cheap 210 wagon

[Mitch Haley]

2wd, so watch your spring perches. 
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=328407498


Another one:
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=328407498

Low miles, $3800:
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=314550339

$4200 4matic, unusual steering wheel, my 1999 doesn't look like that:
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=328929487

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD?

[Mitch Haley]

WILTON wrote:

How 'bout "probly?";<)


Ever hear parbably when you were in Michigan?

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD?

[WILTON]

How 'bout "probly?";<)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "andrew strasfogel" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD?



I would never buy anything from someone who shortens the perfectly
good "probably" with the execrable "prolly."

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

WILTON wrote:


NEW tranny?  So, how does that work out - the car is a gift, or is he
"paying" somebody to take it?
In effect, 'sounds like paying somebody to take it?



Good point. More than $1500 worth of work currently being done on it, 
with a

$1500 price tag?

Maybe he's just mathematically challenged.

Odometer reads "104xxx k mi which is probably 204xxx"?
If the odometer reads to six digits, why does he think it rolled over 
once
at 100k? (more likely, it quit working at some point in its life and 
mileage

is entirely unknown, but it'd be rare to lose 100k that way)

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] ouch -- Hey Max!

[Mitch Haley]

Rich Thomas wrote:

HM


Can you beat 1200


He's been taking offers, or wants you to think he's been offered 1200?
I'm thinking a yard might give him $300.

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Re: [MBZ] ouch -- Hey Max!

[Rich Thomas]

HM


Can you beat 1200

Sent from my iPhone


"Trying to sell to a salvage yard or to someone that can get the vehicle 
themselves.

Ask for price. "

What price did you have in mind?

--R


http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3315488500.html


On 10/24/12 3:44 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
I sent the guy an email just to find out what he has in mind for $$, 
prolly more than I would want to spend but I got thinking about an 
engine transplant possibility as sort of a mental exercise.  Could 
prolly part it out too for some good $$


--R

On 10/24/12 3:16 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Rich Thomas
 wrote:

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3315488500.html

--R

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Re: [MBZ] ouch

[Rich Thomas]

I sent the guy an email just to find out what he has in mind for $$, 
prolly more than I would want to spend but I got thinking about an 
engine transplant possibility as sort of a mental exercise.  Could 
prolly part it out too for some good $$


--R

On 10/24/12 3:16 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Rich Thomas
 wrote:

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3315488500.html

--R

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Re: [MBZ] ouch

[Mitch Haley]

andrew strasfogel wrote:


What's it worth in untotaled condition?


$3-6k?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap TD?

[andrew strasfogel]

I would never buy anything from someone who shortens the perfectly
good "probably" with the execrable "prolly."

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
> WILTON wrote:
>>
>> NEW tranny?  So, how does that work out - the car is a gift, or is he
>> "paying" somebody to take it?
>> In effect, 'sounds like paying somebody to take it?
>
>
> Good point. More than $1500 worth of work currently being done on it, with a
> $1500 price tag?
>
> Maybe he's just mathematically challenged.
>
> Odometer reads "104xxx k mi which is probably 204xxx"?
> If the odometer reads to six digits, why does he think it rolled over once
> at 100k? (more likely, it quit working at some point in its life and mileage
> is entirely unknown, but it'd be rare to lose 100k that way)
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] ouch

[andrew strasfogel]

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Rich Thomas
 wrote:
> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3315488500.html
>
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Packed up - was; Wheel bearing grease?

[Craig]

On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:41:35 -0500 Fmiser  wrote:

> > Craig wrote:
> 
> > ... My manuals,
> > however, are packed up and in a storage container on our
> > driveway, so I cannot look it up.
> 
> Did I miss something?  That rather sounds like moving plans.

I guess it does. I don't think you missed anything.

The proximal cause of being packed up is that we had porcelain tile laid
in a large part of the house as part of our fixing up process, started
over two years ago. One of the rooms that got the tile was the room I was
using for my office. After all is said and done, that room will become
the family room and the bedroom that we were using for our bedroom will
become my office.

Since everything needed to come out of a large part of the house, we
could not just shuffle it around between rooms. That's why the storage
container (a 20' sea container) on the driveway. For awhile we had a
second one out on the street, but with being able to move stuff back into
the living and dining rooms, that's gone now.

In putting stuff in the storage container, I decided to pack most stuff,
including all my books, like we were going to move, in case we really do
(which is what I anticipate in looking for a job). When I get the room
that will be my new office straightened out (fixing sheetrock, painting,
etc.), I will bring in the 2x12 bookcases I made in grad school and just
put the boxes on the shelves.

I haven't had any job offers nor telephone interviews since the one with
the Keck Observatory.

Thanks for checking up on me.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] worse and worse 300td rest of the story

[OK Don]

Cool - sounds like a good plan.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Rick Hawkins Java  wrote:

> I drained the tank on thursday
>
> i had run it down to about 3 gallons
>
> the strainer was clean
>
> i put my finger up in the tank and it was clean bare metal
>
> the fuel looked clean
>
> i filtered the fuel through a paper cone filter before i replaced it into
> the tank
>
> i'll likely still make a setup with a small diesel only tank for
> experimental purposes
>
> thanks,
>
> xx rick
> Rick Hawkins
>
> On Oct 23, 2012, at 11:14 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:
>
>  From: OK Don 
>> Date: October 23, 2012 11:01:03 PM EDT
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] sometimes things get worse and worse REST of the STORY
>> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>
>>
>> Yup - might have gotten the tank strainer clogged up - even if the fuel
>> tank was clean five years ago, it might not be so pristine now.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Rich Thomas <
>> richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Well it seems you got some crappy oil of some sort, maybe it had some
>>> kind
>>> of contaminants in it or something that it dissolved out of the fuel
>>> system.  Or maybe the car got tired of that stuff and just went on
>>> strike.
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

[OK Don]

Convenience - it's pre-measured and you don't have to think about which
grease to use, etc.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>
>> How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?
>>
>> My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how
>> accurate do I have to be?
>>
>> I'm thinking about http://www.amazon.com/**American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*
>> *Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_**2?ie=UTF8&qid=1351043590&sr=8-**
>> 2&keywords=digital+scale
>>
>> which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
>> reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of
>> variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be in
>> 1 gram?
>>
>> -Curt
>>
>> __**_
>>
>>  2nd part of my response.
>
> So, is there any reason I need to find MB wheel bearing grease?
> Is there any good reason not to use a good quality wheel bearing grease
> without their label?
> I have been using a full synthetic grease for years in other vehicles and
> have had no issues.
>
> Randy who does not have the special sunroof grease either
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Hey Kaleb and OK Don

[OK Don]

True! I am getting old, and acting my age!

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Man, yor gettin ol'.   Fer out west, thas jus a hop, skip an a jump!
>
>  Thanks for the heads up. my wife might want to go, but it's a long drive
>> for a concert. Maybe they'll come back after we get a plane in the air :)
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   Switchback in Miami, OK
>>>
>>>  October 27
>>>  Coleman Theatre
>>>  Miami, OK
>>>
>>>  see waygoodmusic.com
>>>
>>>  If anyone in the area is into Arsh  (south'n for Irish) music this would
>>>  be a good one.  Actually, if you like bluegrass, it is more or less an
>>>  offshoot of Arsh.  Switchback generally has something for everyone.
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Re: [MBZ] Packed up - was; Wheel bearing grease?

[Fmiser]

> Craig wrote:

> ... My manuals,
> however, are packed up and in a storage container on our
> driveway, so I cannot look it up.

Did I miss something?  That rather sounds like moving plans.

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[MBZ] worse and worse 300td rest of the story

[Rick Hawkins Java]

I drained the tank on thursday

i had run it down to about 3 gallons

the strainer was clean

i put my finger up in the tank and it was clean bare metal

the fuel looked clean

i filtered the fuel through a paper cone filter before i replaced it  
into the tank


i'll likely still make a setup with a small diesel only tank for  
experimental purposes


thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

On Oct 23, 2012, at 11:14 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:


From: OK Don 
Date: October 23, 2012 11:01:03 PM EDT
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] sometimes things get worse and worse REST of the  
STORY

Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 


Yup - might have gotten the tank strainer clogged up - even if the  
fuel

tank was clean five years ago, it might not be so pristine now.

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

Well it seems you got some crappy oil of some sort, maybe it had  
some kind

of contaminants in it or something that it dissolved out of the fuel
system.  Or maybe the car got tired of that stuff and just went on  
strike.


--R


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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

[Mitch Haley]

Michael Canfield wrote:

I have seen the little ones at Harbor Freight on sale for under ten bucks.
They are actually quite accurate.


The problem with cheap digital scales is usually drift.
If you zero it, weigh one thing and then stop there, it should be surprisingly 
accurate for the price.


If you're reloading 100 rifle cartridges and using it to weigh the powder, it 
will drive you nuts trying to get consistent weights over time as it warms up.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] sometimes things get worse and worse REST of the STORY

[G Mann]

Having processed a few hundred thousand gallons of Waste Veg Oil into Bio
Diesel I can state that not all WVO is the same. There are many variants in
the different vegetable oils which affect flow rate, cloud point, and gell
point.

If the only treatment you are giving your supply of WVO is filteration and
perhaps de-watering, it is likely you have picked up a load of oil that is
high content animal fat, or perhaps coconut oil, or something other than
what you have been running.

I would suspect water content first. The fuel supply problems you describe
[via my internet xray vision of course] seem to mimic a ball of water
somewhere in your fuel supply line. Water. being heavier than the oil, will
act as a shutoff valve while you drive, depending on the size of the bubble
of water, it may let "some" fuel pass, so the engine runs but doesn't make
full power.

High animal fat content oil will act much the same as water, in that it
blocks fuel flow when a "bubble" drops out of suspension. Since that
"bubble" of animal fat [or some other kind of vegetable oil with a high
gell point] is "temp sensitive" it's harder to diagnose than water
contamination..

Sounds like you have had a good run with WVO for past 5 years, but now it's
time to pay the piper.  Murphy came for a visit..

If I were having your problem set, I would remove the supply hose at the
engine and attach a supply line to a completely fresh tank [boat tank
perhaps?] of pure pump diesel. Remove and replace all the fuel filters,
start, run, drive the car. IF engine power and performance is "suddenly
restored" then you get to work backwards to the tank of WVO you presently
have to find your problem.

Good luck, keep save.

Grant...

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:01 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> Yup - might have gotten the tank strainer clogged up - even if the fuel
> tank was clean five years ago, it might not be so pristine now.
>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Rich Thomas <
> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>
> > Well it seems you got some crappy oil of some sort, maybe it had some
> kind
> > of contaminants in it or something that it dissolved out of the fuel
> > system.  Or maybe the car got tired of that stuff and just went on
> strike.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 10/23/12 1:23 PM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote:
> >
> >> Folks,
> >>
> >> I'm not using any conversions
> >>
> >> My tank is clean. I've operated like this for about 5 years now.
> >>
> >> When i had the problems with the clogging or what ever it is / was it
> was
> >> at 5.30 or 6 pm and the oil was at the warmest it would be in the day,
> not
> >> cold.
> >>
> >> Low temps at tybee were never below 60 F
> >>
> >> In the wintertime, i blend with diesel starting around 45F
> >>
> >> I've driven to indianapolis in february a couple of times  i try to
> >> travel on a warm spell then am up to about 100% diesel when i hit indy.
> >>
> >> xx rick
> >>
> >> On Oct 23, 2012, at 11:30 AM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:
> >>
> >>  Re: [MBZ] sometimes things get worse and worse REST of the STORY
> >>> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You never answered about what sort of wvo conversion you are using.
>  Any
> >>> at
> >>> all?
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

[Michael Canfield]

There is Kendall Super Blue in all 4 sets of wheel bearings on my 83.
Seems to roll just fine.  I just packed the bearings with a packing tool
and put a bit in the housing like I have done on pretty much every wheel
bearing job I have done.  Only difference is that I use the magnetic base
and dial indicator to set the MBZ bearings to spec. on the 300d, most
others I set by feel.
  No problems yet and I drive it hard.

Mike
On Oct 24, 2012 11:57 AM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:

> On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>
>> How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?
>>
>> My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how
>> accurate do I have to be?
>>
>> I'm thinking about http://www.amazon.com/**American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*
>> *Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_**2?ie=UTF8&qid=1351043590&sr=8-**
>> 2&keywords=digital+scale
>>
>> which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
>> reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of
>> variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be in
>> 1 gram?
>>
>> -Curt
>>
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>>
>>  2nd part of my response.
>
> So, is there any reason I need to find MB wheel bearing grease?
> Is there any good reason not to use a good quality wheel bearing grease
> without their label?
> I have been using a full synthetic grease for years in other vehicles and
> have had no issues.
>
> Randy who does not have the special sunroof grease either
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

[Michael Canfield]

I have seen the little ones at Harbor Freight on sale for under ten bucks.
They are actually quite accurate.

Mike
On Oct 24, 2012 11:56 AM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:

>
> Do you know anyone with an office and a postal scale?
> I have adigital scale intended for that purpose and I expect it would be
> accurate enough.
> Don't recall what I paid for it but I got it at a big box office supply
> place - probably Staples.
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>
>> How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?
>>
>> My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how
>> accurate do I have to be?
>>
>> I'm thinking about http://www.amazon.com/**American-Weigh-Black-Digital-*
>> *Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_**2?ie=UTF8&qid=1351043590&sr=8-**
>> 2&keywords=digital+scale
>>
>> which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The
>> reviews are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of
>> variance which I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be in
>> 1 gram?
>>
>> -Curt
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

[Randy Bennell]

On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how accurate 
do I have to be?

I'm thinking about 
http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1351043590&sr=8-2&keywords=digital+scale

which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The reviews 
are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of variance which 
I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be in 1 gram?

-Curt

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2nd part of my response.

So, is there any reason I need to find MB wheel bearing grease?
Is there any good reason not to use a good quality wheel bearing grease 
without their label?
I have been using a full synthetic grease for years in other vehicles 
and have had no issues.


Randy who does not have the special sunroof grease either

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Re: [MBZ] Wheel bearing grease?

[Randy Bennell]

Do you know anyone with an office and a postal scale?
I have adigital scale intended for that purpose and I expect it would be 
accurate enough.
Don't recall what I paid for it but I got it at a big box office supply 
place - probably Staples.


Randy


On 23/10/2012 9:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

How much wheel bearing grease in a 123 240D?

My '78 needs one done soon and I figure its time to buy a scale, how accurate 
do I have to be?

I'm thinking about 
http://www.amazon.com/American-Weigh-Black-Digital-Pocket/dp/B0012N1NAA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1351043590&sr=8-2&keywords=digital+scale

which is cheap enough and eligible for Amazon prime free shipping. The reviews 
are decent it seems like as long as I'm okay with 1gram or so of variance which 
I think is probably acceptable, how much grease could be in 1 gram?

-Curt

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