Re: [MBZ] All alone - abandoned

2013-09-30 Thread WILTON

Well, the electrons are up and about, anyway.

Wilton

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Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:36 AM
Subject: [MBZ] All alone - abandoned



Anybody there?

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[MBZ] All alone - abandoned

2013-09-30 Thread WILTON
Anybody there?

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 124 Climate Control Unit/PBU

2013-09-30 Thread Larry T
I am sure the other comments are probably most accurate but there is a 
fuse that controls the AC Compressor - at least there is one on my 91 300D.


Seems my 91 is mimicing yours - last week my compressor stopped working 
- not intermittently like yours, just stopped.   Goes to shop tomorrow 
-  not sure how they test for Low Pressure without the Compr running but 
that's for them to solve...


Anyway - if your fuse is not making good contact it could cause 
intermittent operation of the Compr.


LarryT

On 9/29/2013 5:18 PM, WILTON wrote:

Cabin cooling (compressor) in my '87 300D is working intermittently.  Drove to 
Chapel Hill and back ('bout 82 mi one way) today; system working nicely when we 
started out - could feel and hear compressor cutting in/out normally.  By the 
time we got there, compressor was not running.  System seemed to run OK after 
lunch, but on way home compressor not running.  Fan blows nicely and follows 
instructions via the buttons and temp wheel normally.  Car sat for hour or so 
after getting home; 'just went out and started it - BLOWING ICE COLD - 'could 
not ask for better cooling; no bubbles in sight glass.  Can this intermittent 
operation of compressor be a PBU problem?  What's most likely?  I can try known 
good PBU (well, it was working properly few weeks ago in the SDL, anyway) from 
the 91 SDL in it.  Suggestions?
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Re: [MBZ] 124 Climate Control Unit/PBU

2013-09-30 Thread WILTON

I'll check fuse; may even replace it.  ;)
First, they'll put gages on it to determine if it has any charge; if none or 
insufficient, they'll put some in it; if comp. still not running, they'll 
bypass temp and pressure switches to try to make it run, etc.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net

To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Climate Control Unit/PBU


I am sure the other comments are probably most accurate but there is a fuse 
that controls the AC Compressor - at least there is one on my 91 300D.


Seems my 91 is mimicing yours - last week my compressor stopped working - 
not intermittently like yours, just stopped.   Goes to shop tomorrow - 
not sure how they test for Low Pressure without the Compr running but 
that's for them to solve...


Anyway - if your fuse is not making good contact it could cause 
intermittent operation of the Compr.


LarryT

On 9/29/2013 5:18 PM, WILTON wrote:
Cabin cooling (compressor) in my '87 300D is working intermittently. 
Drove to Chapel Hill and back ('bout 82 mi one way) today; system working 
nicely when we started out - could feel and hear compressor cutting 
in/out normally.  By the time we got there, compressor was not running. 
System seemed to run OK after lunch, but on way home compressor not 
running.  Fan blows nicely and follows instructions via the buttons and 
temp wheel normally.  Car sat for hour or so after getting home; 'just 
went out and started it - BLOWING ICE COLD - 'could not ask for better 
cooling; no bubbles in sight glass.  Can this intermittent operation of 
compressor be a PBU problem?  What's most likely?  I can try known good 
PBU (well, it was working properly few weeks ago in the SDL, anyway) from 
the 91 SDL in it.  Suggestions?

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Re: [MBZ] All alone - abandoned

2013-09-30 Thread Frederick Moir
Wilton.
Just came in from replacing Joanne's Volvo headlamp assy.
I suspect it is a Monday thing.
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.




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To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:36 AM
Subject: [MBZ] All alone - abandoned
 

Anybody there?

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Re: [MBZ] All alone - abandoned

2013-09-30 Thread Craig
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 09:37:57 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Well, the electrons are up and about, anyway.
 
 Wilton

Hello, Wilton!

I'm up and about, and two time zones earlier than you. I just finished
putting out the trash and recycle for our Monday pickup.

We will be driving down to Albuquerque this morning (2 hours) to talk
with our ISP, order some oil-based paint like the stuff we used to get
here in Los Alamos so we can finish painting the house, get delivery
valve seals and springs for our 240D/3.0's pump, and see a doctor about
some lower back pain I have been having. For us, a busy day.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] All alone - abandoned

2013-09-30 Thread WILTON

'Hope all goes well.

BTW, stop in and tell the Sandia guys, Thanks for all the good work.  ;)
On second thought, just give 'em a friendly wave as you pass.  ;)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] All alone - abandoned



On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 09:37:57 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Well, the electrons are up and about, anyway.

Wilton


Hello, Wilton!

I'm up and about, and two time zones earlier than you. I just finished
putting out the trash and recycle for our Monday pickup.

We will be driving down to Albuquerque this morning (2 hours) to talk
with our ISP, order some oil-based paint like the stuff we used to get
here in Los Alamos so we can finish painting the house, get delivery
valve seals and springs for our 240D/3.0's pump, and see a doctor about
some lower back pain I have been having. For us, a busy day.


Craig

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[MBZ] OT - DNS Question

2013-09-30 Thread Dan Penoff
If anyone here has some under the hood experience with DNS at the server level, 
I have question:

How can I add a new name server entry to all of my current zones at once?

Whoever set up our DNS created a ton of separate zones. I am building a 
secondary right now, but in order for the zone transfers to take place, I have 
to add the secondary in as a qualified name server for each zone.

I can do it, but it will take a while if I have to do it manually.

Thanks,

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] All alone - abandoned

2013-09-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 30, 2013, at 8:36 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Anybody there?
 
 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 124 Climate Control Unit/PBU

2013-09-30 Thread WILTON

Compressor is not listed separately from climate control in the fuse list.

Wilton

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From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net

To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Climate Control Unit/PBU


I am sure the other comments are probably most accurate but there is a fuse 
that controls the AC Compressor - at least there is one on my 91 300D.


Seems my 91 is mimicing yours - last week my compressor stopped working - 
not intermittently like yours, just stopped.   Goes to shop tomorrow - 
not sure how they test for Low Pressure without the Compr running but 
that's for them to solve...


Anyway - if your fuse is not making good contact it could cause 
intermittent operation of the Compr.


LarryT

On 9/29/2013 5:18 PM, WILTON wrote:
Cabin cooling (compressor) in my '87 300D is working intermittently. 
Drove to Chapel Hill and back ('bout 82 mi one way) today; system working 
nicely when we started out - could feel and hear compressor cutting 
in/out normally.  By the time we got there, compressor was not running. 
System seemed to run OK after lunch, but on way home compressor not 
running.  Fan blows nicely and follows instructions via the buttons and 
temp wheel normally.  Car sat for hour or so after getting home; 'just 
went out and started it - BLOWING ICE COLD - 'could not ask for better 
cooling; no bubbles in sight glass.  Can this intermittent operation of 
compressor be a PBU problem?  What's most likely?  I can try known good 
PBU (well, it was working properly few weeks ago in the SDL, anyway) from 
the 91 SDL in it.  Suggestions?

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Re: [MBZ] All alone - abandoned

2013-09-30 Thread Richard Hattaway
Only us old people. 





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Anybody there?

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Re: [MBZ] Top Tier Fuel

2013-09-30 Thread Peter Frederick
Buy Shell, it's usually the best (better milage and least smoke, as a  
rule, over my cars).


Other brands I don't have much experience with, since I almost always  
buy my fuel at Shell or the local CountryMark.  The latter is 5%  
Biodiesel as a rule, and refined right down the road.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 124 Climate Control Unit/PBU

2013-09-30 Thread Peter Frederick
Also check the condition of the serpentine belt -- if it's slipping on  
the compressor pulley, it will cause the KLIMA to drop the compressor  
out until you restart.  Not the issue if the problem comes and goes,  
but when you notice the compressor not running, cycle the key off/oh  
and see if the compressor starts running again.  If it does, it's  
likely a Klima relay related issue, either speed sensor or bad relay  
(cracked solder connections is the usual culprit).


However, it's also possible you have a bad clutch coil or inoperative  
low pressure switch or possibly a bad high engine temp sensor -- easy  
enough to isolate.


Switch ignition on and set climate control for full cold/high fan.   
Start engine and wait a few seconds -- AC should engage around 10 sec  
or so.  If it does not, drive it til it quits working, then start  
checking.


On the pressure switch connection on the receiver/dyer (wires spade  
onto the switch, the ones with pigtails are the fan switch), one wire  
should have 12V, the other not when disconnected.  The dead one should  
be grounded via the PBCU.  If there is no ground, it's the PBCU, if  
there is no voltage it's the Klima.  If you short the wires together  
and the compressor comes on, it's the pressure switch since you have a  
full charge.  Plug the wires back into the switch (check for  
continuity if necessary).


If you have voltage and a ground as specified and still no compressor,  
pull the connector on the compressor and check for 12V on the hot lead  
-- if not, bad relay in the Klima, if it's hot, check the coil  
resistance on the compressor, as an open coil obviously won't work  
well and one with a short will burn the contacts in the Klima relay,  
causing intermittant or erratic operation.


I need to do this on the TE, as the AC croaked a month ago on a trip  
to St. Louis.  It was cold enough yesterday and today I didn't need  
the AC, but sooner or later it will be nice not to roast.  I have the  
same issues -- adequate charge but on the trip over last time I had to  
reset the Klima a couple times, and then on the way home it quit  
altogether.  Check the charge and while it's probably a bit low, it's  
certainly high enough to run and shorting the switch leads doesn't  
kick the compressor on.  I've suspected a bad PBCU for a long time  
(lots of mode switching behind the glove box) and everything else is  
good including a new coil on the compressor a couple years ago.  Only  
thing that's possibly flaky other than the PBCU is the used Klima I  
put in after the original burned up due to shorted clutch coil.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Top Tier Fuel

2013-09-30 Thread Benz Hogs
It does happen in the current USLD era, especially with truckers. 
Diesel fuel in non-cold areas is rarely treated with anti-gel.


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (171,xxx mi)

On 9/29/2013 7:54 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Used to hear stories of people fueling up in the south, driving to the
north, and if they parked overnight without refueling up north first,
having gel problems. Doesn't happen often, and of course, only once per
driver, so it's hard to say if it still happens.

Mitch.


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[MBZ] OT: For you Aviation Folks

2013-09-30 Thread Greg Fiorentino
What do you think of this?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9VCs_GpJIg

 

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] OT - DNS Question

2013-09-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 30, 2013 8:07 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

  I have to add the secondary in as a
 qualified name server for each zone.

 I can do it, but it will take a while if I
 have to do it manually.


Doing system administration jobs like this manually is so 20th century.
;)  Allow me to put in a plug for my current employer:
http://puppetlabs.com

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] 124 Climate Control Unit/PBU

2013-09-30 Thread WILTON
Compressor reboots by turning engine off and restarting.  'Don't know how 
long it runs before quitting again - maybe 5 min. or so en route.


'Haven't noticed any belt prob; 'check more tomorrow.

Thanks.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Climate Control Unit/PBU


Also check the condition of the serpentine belt -- if it's slipping on 
the compressor pulley, it will cause the KLIMA to drop the compressor  out 
until you restart.  Not the issue if the problem comes and goes,  but when 
you notice the compressor not running, cycle the key off/oh  and see if 
the compressor starts running again.  If it does, it's  likely a Klima 
relay related issue, either speed sensor or bad relay  (cracked solder 
connections is the usual culprit).


However, it's also possible you have a bad clutch coil or inoperative  low 
pressure switch or possibly a bad high engine temp sensor -- easy  enough 
to isolate.


Switch ignition on and set climate control for full cold/high fan.   Start 
engine and wait a few seconds -- AC should engage around 10 sec  or so. 
If it does not, drive it til it quits working, then start  checking.


On the pressure switch connection on the receiver/dyer (wires spade  onto 
the switch, the ones with pigtails are the fan switch), one wire  should 
have 12V, the other not when disconnected.  The dead one should  be 
grounded via the PBCU.  If there is no ground, it's the PBCU, if  there is 
no voltage it's the Klima.  If you short the wires together  and the 
compressor comes on, it's the pressure switch since you have a  full 
charge.  Plug the wires back into the switch (check for  continuity if 
necessary).


If you have voltage and a ground as specified and still no compressor, 
pull the connector on the compressor and check for 12V on the hot lead  --  
if not, bad relay in the Klima, if it's hot, check the coil  resistance on 
the compressor, as an open coil obviously won't work  well and one with a 
short will burn the contacts in the Klima relay,  causing intermittant or 
erratic operation.


I need to do this on the TE, as the AC croaked a month ago on a trip  to 
St. Louis.  It was cold enough yesterday and today I didn't need  the AC, 
but sooner or later it will be nice not to roast.  I have the  same 
issues -- adequate charge but on the trip over last time I had to  reset 
the Klima a couple times, and then on the way home it quit  altogether. 
Check the charge and while it's probably a bit low, it's  certainly high 
enough to run and shorting the switch leads doesn't  kick the compressor 
on.  I've suspected a bad PBCU for a long time  (lots of mode switching 
behind the glove box) and everything else is  good including a new coil on 
the compressor a couple years ago.  Only  thing that's possibly flaky 
other than the PBCU is the used Klima I  put in after the original burned 
up due to shorted clutch coil.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 124 Climate Control Unit/PBU

2013-09-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
That's the classic sign of it detecting belt slip

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 30, 2013, at 6:22 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Compressor reboots by turning engine off and restarting.  'Don't know how 
 long it runs before quitting again - maybe 5 min. or so en route.
 
 'Haven't noticed any belt prob; 'check more tomorrow.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 3:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Climate Control Unit/PBU
 
 
 Also check the condition of the serpentine belt -- if it's slipping on the 
 compressor pulley, it will cause the KLIMA to drop the compressor  out until 
 you restart.  Not the issue if the problem comes and goes,  but when you 
 notice the compressor not running, cycle the key off/oh  and see if the 
 compressor starts running again.  If it does, it's  likely a Klima relay 
 related issue, either speed sensor or bad relay  (cracked solder connections 
 is the usual culprit).
 
 However, it's also possible you have a bad clutch coil or inoperative  low 
 pressure switch or possibly a bad high engine temp sensor -- easy  enough to 
 isolate.
 
 Switch ignition on and set climate control for full cold/high fan.   Start 
 engine and wait a few seconds -- AC should engage around 10 sec  or so. If 
 it does not, drive it til it quits working, then start  checking.
 
 On the pressure switch connection on the receiver/dyer (wires spade  onto 
 the switch, the ones with pigtails are the fan switch), one wire  should 
 have 12V, the other not when disconnected.  The dead one should  be grounded 
 via the PBCU.  If there is no ground, it's the PBCU, if  there is no voltage 
 it's the Klima.  If you short the wires together  and the compressor comes 
 on, it's the pressure switch since you have a  full charge.  Plug the wires 
 back into the switch (check for  continuity if necessary).
 
 If you have voltage and a ground as specified and still no compressor, pull 
 the connector on the compressor and check for 12V on the hot lead  --  if 
 not, bad relay in the Klima, if it's hot, check the coil  resistance on the 
 compressor, as an open coil obviously won't work  well and one with a short 
 will burn the contacts in the Klima relay,  causing intermittant or erratic 
 operation.
 
 I need to do this on the TE, as the AC croaked a month ago on a trip  to St. 
 Louis.  It was cold enough yesterday and today I didn't need  the AC, but 
 sooner or later it will be nice not to roast.  I have the  same issues -- 
 adequate charge but on the trip over last time I had to  reset the Klima a 
 couple times, and then on the way home it quit  altogether. Check the charge 
 and while it's probably a bit low, it's  certainly high enough to run and 
 shorting the switch leads doesn't  kick the compressor on.  I've suspected a 
 bad PBCU for a long time  (lots of mode switching behind the glove box) and 
 everything else is  good including a new coil on the compressor a couple 
 years ago.  Only  thing that's possibly flaky other than the PBCU is the 
 used Klima I  put in after the original burned up due to shorted clutch coil.
 
 Peter
 
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Re: [MBZ] 124 Climate Control Unit/PBU

2013-09-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 30, 2013 4:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 That's the classic sign of it detecting
 belt slip



Or of a failing KLIMA.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] All alone - abandoned

2013-09-30 Thread Craig
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 10:21:20 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 'Hope all goes well.

Thanks. It went well. I got some muscle relaxant and an order for some PT
to get things stabilized down there.


 BTW, stop in and tell the Sandia guys, Thanks for all the good
 work.  ;) On second thought, just give 'em a friendly wave as you
 pass.  ;) 

I didn't get close enough to wave. I guess they will just have to do
without


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: For you Aviation Folks

2013-09-30 Thread Craig
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 14:26:55 -0700 Greg Fiorentino
gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote:

 What do you think of this?
 
  
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9VCs_GpJIg

The way things are supposed to be done. And yes, the two gentlemen in the
last background picture do need to go home, too.


Craig

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[MBZ] Mercedes on display at Paris Fashion Week?

2013-09-30 Thread Chris James

The three pointed star caught my eye in a thumbnail pic, when reading a
news article...what a bizarre '80s time warp car pile-up I thought! I
never would have guessed it was for a fashion show before clicking on 
the link! You can see a R107  W201 on the bottom of the pile!


Models present creations by Italian designer Riccardo Tisci from his
Spring/Summer 2014 women's ready-to-wear collection for Givenchy during
Paris Fashion Week September 29, 2013. (REUTERS/Charles Platiau)

Link to pic:
http://blogs.reuters.com/fullfocus/2013/09/30/editors-choice-20/#a=1


Link to vid clip of the show on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VINqPVSWtI



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Chris J.
MBCA Peachtree section
Past MB Models:
'85 190D 2.2, '94 E420, '87 260E

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Re: [MBZ] 124 Climate Control Unit/PBU

2013-09-30 Thread Benz Hogs

#1 rule of troubleshooting, start with the simple first.


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (171,xxx mi)

On 9/30/2013 7:17 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Sep 30, 2013 4:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:


That's the classic sign of it detecting
belt slip




Or of a failing KLIMA.

Alex


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Re: [MBZ] 124 Climate Control Unit/PBU

2013-09-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 30, 2013 9:33 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:

 #1 rule of troubleshooting, start with the simple first.


Easier to swap a KLIMA than a 603 belt tensioner.  ;)

Alex
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