Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)
my mom's friend lives in this place where every time there is a complaint, they old person is on an ambulance to hollywood memorial hospital for a week stay on the government dime . i go visit these people and ask them why they are there. they say things like i had a little heartburn and now they won't let me go home . this is repeated with all of these people several times a year. call whatever you like but i stand by my statement On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:42 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Since my Dad was in assisted living for a year (Alzheimer's), and I managed the whole thing, I can call BS on this one. Not even close. I don't know where these lies come from. On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i get back to the example of every elderly headache in assisted living costs $200k. most people just go into the system when told to. very few are like me and gordon who will tell them to stfu about any ambulance and leave us alone -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)
we are alone here in our perspective, gordon. we wear the snowy river hat and walk the snowy river walk. On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.comwrote: Gary wrote: more money grab in the last days of a broken society on its deathbed +1 Does anyone else see things this way? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)
if you quit eating garbage and spent an hour a day in some sort of movement, you'd never have a need for a doctor. or you can choose a life of dependency on big pharma instead On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:48 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: The group is independent of insurance programs, retains privileges at hospitals, and has a set annual fee based on age. Much less expensive to be a young buck, since you do not bother showing up for more than flu shots, and your physical. Old farts pay more, since you are more likely to have wear related issues. Really aged people pay top dollar, but still under $5k per annum. If I suffer some manner of illness or injury, I call and can get in that day, within hours, for treatment. There is no co pay, no forms, no screwing around. They perform standard lab testing on site, simple radiographic diagnostics, and keep a swift response on call medico who will resolve your issue then, instead of making you chat up a nurse or call center, then wait for hours to get taken care of. This is the old fashioned doctor program. Make a google search for your location to see a list of providers. clay On Mar 30, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Mountain Man wrote: What is healthcare? It sounds like most of the dialog is about insco? Clay - tell us more about this concierge medical, please. Is there an association of concierge medical to find local doc in other parts of the country? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
dan is out of the school biz. the public schools are an absolute and total loss. we need to go back to the old way, where the dumb kids were at work at 14 and the really bright ones went to princeton. instead we fund another stupid government scam and spout buzzwords to confuse the idiotic masses to support it maybe today we just need schools so we can have a war on drugs at the schools . not really sure what other purpose they serve On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.comwrote: I watched this video today. It is about Common Core - the new education curriculum being pushed. Among us mostly old guys, I suspect there are very few of us with kids in school, so it really is off-topic, except that it seems sad. It really is beyond my interest but it seems sad if interesting. Perhaps Dan or other professionals in education can defeat some of what is being said by this video that is decidedly negative against Common Core. Is it really as bad as it sounds? www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjxBClx01jc mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger question - W123 300TD
My 73 Land Rover was positive earth. On Mar 31, 2014 9:41 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: how am I supposed to know this? [positive vs negative ground] You look, or use a meter. The last positive ground vehicle I can think of is, I _think_, a VW beetle. Old one, 6V. It's just a convention, and there's little technical reason to have it one way vs the other. (Possibly some corrosion differences, which is why telegraph and teletype have the voltage conventions they do.) But like matter and antimatter, whether mere convention or not, the difference is _important_! Don't cross the streams. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] You know you want these
Where's the spinners? You can't pimp out a car without spinners. Also, why buy the whole wheel if you aren't going to have spinners. Walmart has genuine imitation Testerossa hub cabs for less than $20 per set. I have them on my 240D and they look cool. Gerry On 3/31/2014 10:30 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Wilton will go buy a Costco membership just for this http://www.costco.com/.product.11525150.html?EMID=B2C_2014_0331_April_OnlineOnlyOffers --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)
Average annual physicians salaries in U.S. after 21 to 25 years of education at a cost of thousands of dollars. Wealthy? No, just in the upper middle class along with lawyers and many small businessmen. http://www.bls.gov/ooh/healthcare/physicians-and-surgeons.htm Gerry I did not read that to be a general program, but am aware of private trauma centers that operate in that manner. No waiting for administrators to shuffle papers around while you are waiting for the wetbacks and poor to hack loogies on the floor or barf on your feet. Guaranteed access to swift treatment can be worth the payment. Not to me. I expect to drop dead long before the death wagon comes to drag my carcass to the hospital. clay On Mar 30, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: did you read the thing where a trauma center charges you $35k for just becoming a patient.? in other words, if you sign into their system, the meter starts at a base of 35 grand. if the ambulance brings you there and the doctor says hey, you look ok. and you say yeah, i sure feel ok. i think i'll go home now, you now owe them at least 35 grand. On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 5:05 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Time ran a major expose on the medical rip offs perpetuated by hospitals and insurance companies. The cost to provide is not really that high. The game is already agreed upon between insurance and hospitals so that nobody is getting poor on their side. The hospitals have a Charge Book that has prices pulled out of the air or a bodily orifice. Exorbitant price so they can charge the uninsured, or to allow them to write it down. No two hospitals charge the same, but the book price is exponentially more than the actual true cost. On the level of air force toilet seats or hammers. Aspirin at $10 a pill. Hospital stays generate fairie tale bills, in no way based on reality of costs. Insurance companies agree to pay a multiple of the actual cost to provide, and then figure out how to weasel out of paying it unless the consumer raises a snit large enough to garner outside attention. My SiL works for a major medical insurance provider. The hoops and machinations required to get the service you paid for are terrifying. The patient is getting buggered and the hospital is going to come after you for payment at the higher fee. Insurance company got your cash, and fights hard to not pay for service. SiL moved from the claims denial branch to the vacuuming cash out of a large employer section, as it hurt her morally to keep people from accessing health care. Now she streamlines getting a major aerospace company's cash to service workers health needs. On Mar 29, 2014, at 3:46 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: The obscenely expensive healthcare system is not due to doctors wages but due to expensive hospital stays, incredibly expensive medications, hospitals having to foot the bill for uninsured patients visiting the ER and then admitted for months on end at times, etc,etc. Your average internist earns around $150K per year. I don't see that as being overpayed considering the extreme sacrifices made to get there. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the problem is that every physician now demands to live in opulence beyond elvis and this can only be done honestly in a relatively small number of instances, hence the obscenely expensive healthcare system we have today On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: That's actually a good thing isn't it? Where is it written that every physician has to be wealthy. On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Q: What´s the difference between an Obamacare HMO physician and a seagull? A: A seagull can still make a significant deposit on a Mercedes. ba-da-boom, I'll be here all week... --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)
-2 mao We need someone to bring our country back from the broken society / deathbed. Some may disagree, and personally I don't care, but Ronald Reagan brought us back from Jimmy Carter. Now we need someone to bring us back from this equally worthless Barack Obama. I don't know who it will be, but we desperately need someone or else this mighty ship and crew will be lost (just like Gilligan). Just my opinion, others are welcome to theirs. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 115 headliner, jabba the hurst
No I'm not, I wil check me stash first and see what I have. Never heard from jabba so I will order from az I guess Sent from my iPhone On Mar 31, 2014, at 10:50 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I have front check straps in good condition, if you are not put off by used parts clay On Mar 30, 2014, at 7:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So this 115 I am starting on, has the head liner coming down in the rear corner of the rear windshield. Anybody messed with that? Does it require replacement of the headliner to fix? I assume rear window has to come out? I think I need a seal back there anyway. May need a front one also. Jabba, what about prices on front and rear windshield seals, headliner, and front door check strap? Can you get seat pads anymore for these? If not, what is a source for replacement seat covers, pads etc? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] weekend projects
Attaboy Sent from my iPhone On Mar 31, 2014, at 11:03 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Finally had the first decent weekend weather in 6 months. (so much for global warming. The new ice age is here!) Took off the passenger door handle and got it to work, put it back. It was missing the screw at the back, so I found a 6 mm Phillips head screw in the bolt bin, and now the door can be opened from the outside, as designed. It was broken when I got the heap. Then I tackled the rear window that would not stay up. Took the panel off, and wound down the regulator. the arm had grinder marks where the riveted pin had been ground off. not a good sign. found the window had a pretty new nylon slide, and the pin was in it. Pushed the rivet in the hole, and it popped right out. Hmmm Seems like a job for the welder, but I had already put it away. It was at the opposite end of the estate, so I didn't want to drag it all they way out front. H How about the air hammer, and some riveting action? First I had to grind the pointy tool pointy again after its recent usage. That done, I tried riveting the center to expand the pin. two problems: 1. the pin pushed into the nylon block, and didn't stay out. 2. the air hammer chisel bounced off the end of the pin. I tried a different tactic. riveting the side of the pin next to the regulator arm. that worked well. Did that at 2 places 90º apart, and it seemed to stay put. Success! Put it back together again. Earlier I took the one fender off the coleman trailer and welded washers into where the lower bolt holes used to be. I took the other fender that had fallen off on I20 in Jackson, MS at night, and welded washers in where all 4 bolt holes used to be. scraped and painted the fenders and then put them on the trailer. Also soldered on a new plug on the trailer wiring. All in all, a catheyesque weekend. total expenditure, a couple feet of FC wire, and a couple bucks worth of bolts, and a half cheap rattle can of spray paint. That and turning the compost bins, and raking and hauling leaves to the compost bin filled up the weekend, Sun night, grilled a couple of excellent sirloin steaks ($3.99/lb on sale) I thought the double compost bin with each side holding 220 cubic feet was way overkill, but in the fall both sides were filled, and it took quite a bit of stomping to get all the spring leaves in. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] weekend projects
Dead battery, but the alternator is putting out 13.5 V Bad diode can still result in good (-ish) voltage, but still have other ills. Or you have a leak. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] weekend projects
I fixed one of the regulators on the TD with a small bolt but I had to grind the top and nut off a bit to get it to clear the other bits. --R On 4/1/14 12:13 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Pushed the rivet in the hole, and it popped right out. Anvil, cold chisel, BFH. I used the point of the tipped-back anvil in the slider, and whacked the chisel into the button with the BFH to embed a cross in the button, spreading out the metal. Still there! (Had to remove regulator from door to do all this, and enlist a second set of hands.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] weekend projects
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 12:03 AM Subject: [MBZ] weekend projects Finally had the first decent weekend weather in 6 months. (so much for global warming. The new ice age is here!) Took off the passenger door handle and got it to work, put it back. It was missing the screw at the back, so I found a 6 mm Phillips head screw in the bolt bin, and now the door can be opened from the outside, as designed. It was broken when I got the heap. Then I tackled the rear window that would not stay up. Took the panel off, and wound down the regulator. the arm had grinder marks where the riveted pin had been ground off. not a good sign. found the window had a pretty new nylon slide, and the pin was in it. Pushed the rivet in the hole, and it popped right out. Hmmm Seems like a job for the welder, but I had already put it away. It was at the opposite end of the estate, so I didn't want to drag it all they way out front. H How about the air hammer, and some riveting action? First I had to grind the pointy tool pointy again after its recent usage. That done, I tried riveting the center to expand the pin. two problems: 1. the pin pushed into the nylon block, and didn't stay out. 2. the air hammer chisel bounced off the end of the pin. I tried a different tactic. riveting the side of the pin next to the regulator arm. that worked well. Did that at 2 places 90º apart, and it seemed to stay put. Success! Put it back together again. Earlier I took the one fender off the coleman trailer and welded washers into where the lower bolt holes used to be. I took the other fender that had fallen off on I20 in Jackson, MS at night, and welded washers in where all 4 bolt holes used to be. scraped and painted the fenders and then put them on the trailer. Also soldered on a new plug on the trailer wiring. All in all, a catheyesque weekend. total expenditure, a couple feet of FC wire, and a couple bucks worth of bolts, and a half cheap rattle can of spray paint. That and turning the compost bins, and raking and hauling leaves to the compost bin filled up the weekend, Sun night, grilled a couple of excellent sirloin steaks ($3.99/lb on sale) I thought the double compost bin with each side holding 220 cubic feet was way overkill, but in the fall both sides were filled, and it took quite a bit of stomping to get all the spring leaves in. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] weekend projects
Yep, 'nother ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] weekend projects I finally got my antenna up, wire strung from the hangar roof (ground plane for the vertical antenna) to the house (200ft.) and got the radio on the air after almost three years. Found a contest under way and managed to score 23 countries representing most continents except Africa and Antarctica in four hours. Not bad for a rusty old ham and obsolete (15 yrs old) equipment. Can't forget that I also shot touch-and-goes on our 2500 ft. grass runway. On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: -- OK Don, KD5NRO NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] weekend projects
'Nother ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] weekend projects I fixed one of the regulators on the TD with a small bolt but I had to grind the top and nut off a bit to get it to clear the other bits. --R On 4/1/14 12:13 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Pushed the rivet in the hole, and it popped right out. Anvil, cold chisel, BFH. I used the point of the tipped-back anvil in the slider, and whacked the chisel into the button with the BFH to embed a cross in the button, spreading out the metal. Still there! (Had to remove regulator from door to do all this, and enlist a second set of hands.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger question - W123 300TD
On 31/03/2014 8:41 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: how am I supposed to know this? [positive vs negative ground] You look, or use a meter. The last positive ground vehicle I can think of is, I _think_, a VW beetle. Old one, 6V. It's just a convention, and there's little technical reason to have it one way vs the other. (Possibly some corrosion differences, which is why telegraph and teletype have the voltage conventions they do.) But like matter and antimatter, whether mere convention or not, the difference is _important_! Don't cross the streams. -- Jim I had a 1964 Anglia that was 12V and posative ground. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
What age group are you taking about? High school level? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2014, at 12:47 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: First, for the record, I'm old, kids are out of college and I'm out of the kids in school business. However, I belong to a group of people who have taken the time to actually read the books which are to be used to teach the common core classrooms. If you were educated any time before 1990 you WOULD NOT BELIEVE what these books hold. History has been re-written. The books are populated with anti-american bias that will set your teeth on edge, unless you are a radical islamic or a committed communist... then you will be so happy. By the way, the Powers That Be would not release the books to us for study.. we had to go there, set and read through them in place like it was some government secret what children would be taught. The over reach attitude did not set well. It was I'm from government and I own your children. We will do what we want to them from the first moment. Very high concern was reflected by the entire group. This is not the direction we want American children to be lead into if America is to survive as the Greatest and Richest Nation in recorded history. On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: dan is out of the school biz. the public schools are an absolute and total loss. we need to go back to the old way, where the dumb kids were at work at 14 and the really bright ones went to princeton. instead we fund another stupid government scam and spout buzzwords to confuse the idiotic masses to support it maybe today we just need schools so we can have a war on drugs at the schools . not really sure what other purpose they serve On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I watched this video today. It is about Common Core - the new education curriculum being pushed. Among us mostly old guys, I suspect there are very few of us with kids in school, so it really is off-topic, except that it seems sad. It really is beyond my interest but it seems sad if interesting. Perhaps Dan or other professionals in education can defeat some of what is being said by this video that is decidedly negative against Common Core. Is it really as bad as it sounds? www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjxBClx01jc mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
First, for the record, I'm old, kids are out of college and I'm out of the kids in school business. However, I belong to a group of people who have taken the time to actually read the books which are to be used to teach the common core classrooms. If you were educated any time before 1990 you WOULD NOT BELIEVE what these books hold. History has been re-written. The books are populated with anti-american bias that will set your teeth on edge, unless you are a radical islamic or a committed communist... then you will be so happy. By the way, the Powers That Be would not release the books to us for study.. we had to go there, set and read through them in place like it was some government secret what children would be taught. The over reach attitude did not set well. It was I'm from government and I own your children. We will do what we want to them from the first moment. Very high concern was reflected by the entire group. This is not the direction we want American children to be lead into if America is to survive as the Greatest and Richest Nation in recorded history. On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: dan is out of the school biz. the public schools are an absolute and total loss. we need to go back to the old way, where the dumb kids were at work at 14 and the really bright ones went to princeton. instead we fund another stupid government scam and spout buzzwords to confuse the idiotic masses to support it maybe today we just need schools so we can have a war on drugs at the schools . not really sure what other purpose they serve On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I watched this video today. It is about Common Core - the new education curriculum being pushed. Among us mostly old guys, I suspect there are very few of us with kids in school, so it really is off-topic, except that it seems sad. It really is beyond my interest but it seems sad if interesting. Perhaps Dan or other professionals in education can defeat some of what is being said by this video that is decidedly negative against Common Core. Is it really as bad as it sounds? www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjxBClx01jc mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
Just an interesting fact you all might find disturbing: The entire US high school population is outnumbered in both India and China by the top 10% (in achievement, etc.) of their students. From what little I know about the CC, it does not appear it will address the fact above very well. Another interesting demographic fact: In a few years the majority of new children will be minority (i.e., black and hispanic). In the black demographic 72% are born to single mothers/single parent homes, and I think the hispanic number is fairly similar but they tend to have a larger social structure. Good child school performance correlates strongly with 2-parent households. You can figure out where all that is headed. --R On 4/1/14 1:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What age group are you taking about? High school level? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2014, at 12:47 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: First, for the record, I'm old, kids are out of college and I'm out of the kids in school business. However, I belong to a group of people who have taken the time to actually read the books which are to be used to teach the common core classrooms. If you were educated any time before 1990 you WOULD NOT BELIEVE what these books hold. History has been re-written. The books are populated with anti-american bias that will set your teeth on edge, unless you are a radical islamic or a committed communist... then you will be so happy. By the way, the Powers That Be would not release the books to us for study.. we had to go there, set and read through them in place like it was some government secret what children would be taught. The over reach attitude did not set well. It was I'm from government and I own your children. We will do what we want to them from the first moment. Very high concern was reflected by the entire group. This is not the direction we want American children to be lead into if America is to survive as the Greatest and Richest Nation in recorded history. On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: dan is out of the school biz. the public schools are an absolute and total loss. we need to go back to the old way, where the dumb kids were at work at 14 and the really bright ones went to princeton. instead we fund another stupid government scam and spout buzzwords to confuse the idiotic masses to support it maybe today we just need schools so we can have a war on drugs at the schools . not really sure what other purpose they serve On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I watched this video today. It is about Common Core - the new education curriculum being pushed. Among us mostly old guys, I suspect there are very few of us with kids in school, so it really is off-topic, except that it seems sad. It really is beyond my interest but it seems sad if interesting. Perhaps Dan or other professionals in education can defeat some of what is being said by this video that is decidedly negative against Common Core. Is it really as bad as it sounds? www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjxBClx01jc mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Fwd: Facebook - was: Unintentional Loop at Takeoff on a Carrier- - -
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: In order to even see your listings on Facebook, I am required to JOIN facebook. Immediately upon joining facebook my entire contact with the internet is suddenly overwhelmed with popups and trash generated by my I personally have no objection to the trash (never had popups), but it is simple enough to live the life of a hermit on Facebook unless you have a shockingly unusual name. You can block people from seeing all other information about you - and therefore you are private insofar as your name is lost in a sea of other identical names. I know a number of folks who have taken this approach, and have just a few friends they follow. contact with facebook. Something I very much do not desire. Suddenly, I have emails from companies and people who I have no desire to have contact with ONLY by virtue of having ONCE made contact with, and joined Why is he following companies and people on FB if he doesn't want to talk with them? You can select to not get e-mails for friend requests, I turned that off quickly. Both before and after FB I have gotten lots of e-mails from companies and people with whom I have no desire to communicate through e-mail. I usually ignore and/or filter them. If anything the frequency has gone down post-FB, but that's probably because I stopped rolling my own spam filters and went to Gmail exclusively. facebook. It then takes nothing short of overwhelming effort to remove yourself from all those contact points that have been generated without your agreement. It is a lot more difficult to get removed from spam, FWIW. My wife gave out my real e-mail address to a local business, eventually I took it to the BBB to get them to actually remove me. On FB you can just block people, or stop e-mails getting sent from FB's settings menu - another company isn't supposed to use your real e-mail address unless you explicitly give it to them. The upside of having a FB account is for communicating with people who use FB to communicate, and for multicast messages. I found out my maternal grandfather was in the hospital at least three hours before my mother, because my aunt sent her family group a private message on FB before she started calling. I have at least one friend who rarely checks his personal e-mail, but is on FB frequently enough that I sometimes catch him for lunch as late as 11:30. Different people use the internet different ways, so having diverse accounts - even if rarely used - makes it a lot easier to communicate. Also, I like to see pictures of my nieces and nephews, but not enough to hassle my sister. If I log in every couple weeks I can click through my family's postings pretty quickly. I understand my mother does the same. It is, in my considered opinion, the social and electronic equal to deliberately giving yourself herpes. ...also how I feel about having e-mail. And yet there it is, I in fact do have e-mail addresses. It's very rare to find somebody who is both active and authentic, it seems like the primary impetus for people posting on Facebook is to make others envious or to just facilitate a user's own sense of grandeur. I think that's equally true of life in general. You can block people, just like with e-mail, or not friend them in the first place... or just never read status messages. Mostly I just log in when I get an e-mail that I have a new message, or someone has uploaded a picture of 'me' (which is usually one of my kids, since they don't have FB accounts), or if I want to contact someone that uses FB more than e-mail - or if the kids say something silly enough that I want to remember it later. I am surprised by the knee-jerk reactions against FB (in the other thread more than this one), just like I'm surprised by the knee-jerk reactions against EVs. Nobody is making you use it, but it is a convenient communications medium that happens to address some of the issues of other electronic communications formats. I'm just trying to present the affirmative defense here. :) Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Just an interesting fact you all might find disturbing: The entire US high school population is outnumbered in both India and China by the top 10% (in achievement, etc.) of their students. Also outnumbered by the lowest 10%, by any metric you'd like to choose. Does that make you feel better? From what little I know about the CC, it does not appear it will address the fact above very well. Thinking of starting a teen pregnancy program in the SC schools? I hear they've already got it going on. Another interesting demographic fact: In a few years the majority of new children will be minority (i.e., black and hispanic). In the black demographic 72% are born to single mothers/single parent homes, and I think the hispanic number is fairly similar but they tend to have a larger social structure. Good child school performance correlates strongly with 2-parent households. You can figure out where all that is headed. Will the majority of the old children still be majority in a few years? Maybe since I lived in Durham for so long I don't see why this is a problem. Social structures yes, but that didn't seem racially divergent in Durham at least. (For non-Carolinians, Durham historically had a lot of wealthy blacks; it was home to Black Wall Street. Presently there are natives from many different genetic histories across economic classes, unlike in some other cities where natives who are non-white are more likely to be poor.) My kids went to http://www.greatschools.org/north-carolina/durham/616-Lakewood-Elementary/?tab=demographics where they were clearly a minority. There were a number of smart kids, the school did a good job of keeping them together. Overall they learned a lot. Also a lot of dumb kids, kids who couldn't speak or write English, etc. They now go to http://www.greatschools.org/north-carolina/chapel-hill/7698-Morris-Grove-Elementary-School/?tab=demographics My son's writing was below grade level, but otherwise both he and my daughter started the year well above their peers in this well-to-do school. A much lower bottom but the top is about the same. In my observation parents being interested in their children's education, and talking them through difficulties, has a lot more to do with student success than their height, hair, skin, or eye color. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
https://www.google.ca/#q=england+adopts+sharia+law This scares the you know what out of me. Canada is so mamby pamby on this sort of thing that it will probably come to us too. Our young Mr. Trudeau wants to be PM and hangs out with this crowd telling them how he can fix things for them. It is truly rediculous. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] weekend projects
On 01/04/2014 8:22 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Dead battery, but the alternator is putting out 13.5 V Bad diode can still result in good (-ish) voltage, but still have other ills. Or you have a leak. -- Jim ___ Shouldn't the alternator put out about 14.2V? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)
Oh please, quit whining. Move to Canada. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:44 AM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: -2 mao We need someone to bring our country back from the broken society / deathbed. Some may disagree, and personally I don't care, but Ronald Reagan brought us back from Jimmy Carter. Now we need someone to bring us back from this equally worthless Barack Obama. I don't know who it will be, but we desperately need someone or else this mighty ship and crew will be lost (just like Gilligan). Just my opinion, others are welcome to theirs. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
where it's at not is that the good student are better than ever, the middle ground is disappearing and the vast majority have no reason to be there and stand simply to be slaves forever to the top kids i judge debate. the top kids are GREAT . much better than in my day On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Just an interesting fact you all might find disturbing: The entire US high school population is outnumbered in both India and China by the top 10% (in achievement, etc.) of their students. From what little I know about the CC, it does not appear it will address the fact above very well. Another interesting demographic fact: In a few years the majority of new children will be minority (i.e., black and hispanic). In the black demographic 72% are born to single mothers/single parent homes, and I think the hispanic number is fairly similar but they tend to have a larger social structure. Good child school performance correlates strongly with 2-parent households. You can figure out where all that is headed. --R On 4/1/14 1:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What age group are you taking about? High school level? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2014, at 12:47 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: First, for the record, I'm old, kids are out of college and I'm out of the kids in school business. However, I belong to a group of people who have taken the time to actually read the books which are to be used to teach the common core classrooms. If you were educated any time before 1990 you WOULD NOT BELIEVE what these books hold. History has been re-written. The books are populated with anti-american bias that will set your teeth on edge, unless you are a radical islamic or a committed communist... then you will be so happy. By the way, the Powers That Be would not release the books to us for study.. we had to go there, set and read through them in place like it was some government secret what children would be taught. The over reach attitude did not set well. It was I'm from government and I own your children. We will do what we want to them from the first moment. Very high concern was reflected by the entire group. This is not the direction we want American children to be lead into if America is to survive as the Greatest and Richest Nation in recorded history. On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: dan is out of the school biz. the public schools are an absolute and total loss. we need to go back to the old way, where the dumb kids were at work at 14 and the really bright ones went to princeton. instead we fund another stupid government scam and spout buzzwords to confuse the idiotic masses to support it maybe today we just need schools so we can have a war on drugs at the schools . not really sure what other purpose they serve On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I watched this video today. It is about Common Core - the new education curriculum being pushed. Among us mostly old guys, I suspect there are very few of us with kids in school, so it really is off-topic, except that it seems sad. It really is beyond my interest but it seems sad if interesting. Perhaps Dan or other professionals in education can defeat some of what is being said by this video that is decidedly negative against Common Core. Is it really as bad as it sounds? www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjxBClx01jc mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
Do some more research. That is not what it is all about. With Common Core there is no time to teach. Each lesson is provided on a daily basis and on to the next the very next day with no time for the teacher to pass on the info. How can every student learn every lesson in 1 hour or less? Common core is for sheeple. Even our teachers are mostly against common core. Mike On Apr 1, 2014 12:10 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: I believe there are some problems with Common Core, but they are, so far as I can tell, mostly lack of clarity and lack of teaching materials. Hard to produce a set of textbooks following the curriculum in a matter of months. Indiana just ditched Common Core, but that is all about I cannot fathom the notion that there would be very much difference between that and any other standard curriculum unless there are some really bad ones out there -- after all, humans have been recording how to teach children for around 3000 years now. Can't be THAT much new under the sun. Most of the criticism of Common Core is that it's NIH (not invented here) and hence, since it's a Federal Standard, must be spawn of the devil and proponents must be burned at the stake as heretics with much howling and gnashing of teeth. The notion that local standards are better than a national one is a crock of excrement. I seriously doubt some flyspeck down at the end of a dirt road is gonna come up with something better. It's all about cranking up the radical right religious base, not education. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)
Come on up. We might let Andrew in too. Randy On 01/04/2014 3:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Oh please, quit whining. Move to Canada. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:44 AM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: -2 mao We need someone to bring our country back from the broken society / deathbed. Some may disagree, and personally I don't care, but Ronald Reagan brought us back from Jimmy Carter. Now we need someone to bring us back from this equally worthless Barack Obama. I don't know who it will be, but we desperately need someone or else this mighty ship and crew will be lost (just like Gilligan). Just my opinion, others are welcome to theirs. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Self correcting economy
We need someone to bring our country back from the broken society / deathbed. Some may disagree, and personally I don't care, but Ronald Reagan brought us back from Jimmy Carter. Now we need someone to bring us back from this equally worthless Barack Obama. I don't know who it will be, but we desperately need someone or else this mighty ship and crew will be lost (just like Gilligan). Just my opinion, others are welcome to theirs. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale The market always self corrects, with or without the intervention of the next president. Sometimes you have to correct hard, like in 1929, and then rebuild the country. One way or the other, we will see the solution to this. DBV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy
I would point out that Carter is the only president in current history to not have a shot fired during his presidency. Watch him on Bill Maher this week, it's worth seeing. Dan On Apr 1, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Van Knutson wrote: The market always self corrects, with or without the intervention of the next president. Sometimes you have to correct hard, like in 1929, and then rebuild the country. One way or the other, we will see the solution to this. DBV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy
Ford had some shots fired at him. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Dan PenoffSent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 4:53 PMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListReply To: Mercedes Discussion ListSubject: Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economyI would point out that Carter is the only president in current history to not have a shot fired during his presidency.Watch him on Bill Maher this week, it's worth seeing.Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] POOS SL
Thinking about buying this, what do you think? http://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/4399075777.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] POOS SL
Dunno. Would have to see it in person. Some things I would definitely ask: Service records? Check top hydraulics (look for leaks and check the pump/reservoir under the spare tire) 97 and later are the better years, as they have the better tranny and no issues with evaporators and wiring harnesses. Not sure what that last picture is, but heck, it's got light wipers! The M119 engine is pretty bulletproof. You already know about the 722.6xx tranny, so that's something to check out. Otherwise it looks pretty good for the money. I don't care for the blue on blue color scheme, but if anything, that works in your favor as it's not particularly attractive. Dan On Apr 1, 2014, at 6:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Thinking about buying this, what do you think? http://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/4399075777.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] SINCE WHEN (ot)
SINCE WHEN DID THIS LIST'S EMPHASIS CHANGE TO POLITICS? WHY NOT DETERIORATE FURTHER TO ARGUMENTS REGARDING RELIGION? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
The biggest problem with all this educational garbage is that no one will stick with anything long enough to determine if it's effective. Floriduh is all about the bright shiny educational theory, and in doing so, doesn't have enough consistency to have collected enough data for any sort of realistic statistical studies of he results. Floriduh, thanks to our idiot governor, Rick Scott (also known as Skeletor) has abandoned Common Core on a national level and is now going to do their own thing, whatever the heck that will be. The worst part about this is that teachers continue to be attacked for their incompetence along with being beaten by the Value Added system, which the way that Floriduh administers it, is the professional equivalent of having a red hot poker shoved in just about any bodily orifice that's handy. Let me posit this to the group: How would you like your performance review and ultimately your potential for a raise or bonus be determined by the performance of people in your company that you don't even work with? Had I been in a school doing my IT stuff and employed as an instructional person, my ability to get a raise would be based on the sum total of the academic performance of EVERY student in the school. That's even if I never ONCE instructed them or had any kind of interaction whatsoever. Sounds fair, eh? Dan don't get me started about education in Floriduh Man On Apr 1, 2014, at 8:05 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Do some more research. That is not what it is all about. With Common Core there is no time to teach. Each lesson is provided on a daily basis and on to the next the very next day with no time for the teacher to pass on the info. How can every student learn every lesson in 1 hour or less? Common core is for sheeple. Even our teachers are mostly against common core. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] SINCE WHEN (ot)
Amen brother On Apr 1, 2014 6:22 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: SINCE WHEN DID THIS LIST'S EMPHASIS CHANGE TO POLITICS? WHY NOT DETERIORATE FURTHER TO ARGUMENTS REGARDING RELIGION? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy
U... Iran Embassy takeover.. hostages held for the entire duration of Carters office? And no shots fired.. yes .. that was a success, wasn't it? {All Embassy holdings are considered by all nations as Sovereign Soil of the Nation Embassy} ... Sorry... I can't count that as a score for the leader of America.. Your personal tastes given all due respect. Repeat, with current administration. Add death of the Ambassador... Sorry.. still second rate. Some else just posted a complaint that the list has degraded to politics and perhaps we should argue religion.. hmm.. I kindly submit the following: 1. Oil threads have all been resolved. 2. Everyone's much loved Mercedes is preforming as designed and virtually unbroken [apparently]. 3. Garry and all detractors have gone civil. 4. SHMBO is apparently satisfied with list members [husbands or SO's] 5. The unemployed are now employed, or search directed. What's left to complain about except politics? And,, it's such a handy scape goat... comedians do it daily, we listen and are entertained.. Perhaps we are taking ourselves to seriously to consider that we have sufficient intellect to understand and discuss complex social issues without vilifying other list members.. but to date.. I see only civil social discourse plainly spoken.. I will say, however, the last words I heard from a lifetime atheist in Vietnam in 1968 under fire was Oooohh God. I've always wondered how that worked out.. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I would point out that Carter is the only president in current history to not have a shot fired during his presidency. Watch him on Bill Maher this week, it's worth seeing. Dan On Apr 1, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Van Knutson wrote: The market always self corrects, with or without the intervention of the next president. Sometimes you have to correct hard, like in 1929, and then rebuild the country. One way or the other, we will see the solution to this. DBV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)
Gary wrote: we are alone here in our perspective, gordon. we wear the snowy river hat and walk the snowy river walk. Okay, we can do that - it's good company. Anyone else? Tell us this is not the american way? I say it is part of the JFK ask what you can do for your country. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] POOS SL
Kaleb wrote: Thinking about buying this, what do you think? Kaleb joins geezer clan. Another 'stang. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] SINCE WHEN (ot)
Dwight wrote: Amen brother Holy... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy
Grant wrote: ...perhaps we should argue religion... Again, holy... Yeah, lets do religion. Or, perhaps we hack okiebenz to broke and then bring it back after a month and we can all tell what wonderful things we are doing now that our benz is broke and thrown away. I bet my 3-pedal benz will still be okay. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] MBZ Diesel Spin-offs
One of the great things about wrenching on my 300TD and 300SD and reading this list is the Diesel knowledge I gained. Probably like most, all my previous experience was with gassers. Since I owned two Diesel sail boats and nor a Diesel tractor (plus the 300SD) and this Diesel knowledge had really paid off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
IMO, it's time (well, long past time) to bust the trusts of the education monopoly. The question is how? Abolishing the US Depart of Education would be a good start. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 1:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so... First, for the record, I'm old, kids are out of college and I'm out of the kids in school business. However, I belong to a group of people who have taken the time to actually read the books which are to be used to teach the common core classrooms. If you were educated any time before 1990 you WOULD NOT BELIEVE what these books hold. History has been re-written. The books are populated with anti-american bias that will set your teeth on edge, unless you are a radical islamic or a committed communist... then you will be so happy. By the way, the Powers That Be would not release the books to us for study.. we had to go there, set and read through them in place like it was some government secret what children would be taught. The over reach attitude did not set well. It was I'm from government and I own your children. We will do what we want to them from the first moment. Very high concern was reflected by the entire group. This is not the direction we want American children to be lead into if America is to survive as the Greatest and Richest Nation in recorded history. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger On 01/04/14 05:45, Rich Thomas wrote: It is a negative ground. I just clip both to the battery posts (red + , black -) or you can do the thing with the black clamp to something bare metal, which is to minimize sparking when attaching/detaching the clamps, which could ignite the gases that come out the battery when charging (hydrogen and maybe some sulfurous stuff). But you can live dangerously! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)
I do not play with big pharma I like my Doc, so it is worth the fee to retain access. He understands my choice to only seek the least amount of care clay On Mar 31, 2014, at 8:51 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: if you quit eating garbage and spent an hour a day in some sort of movement, you'd never have a need for a doctor. or you can choose a life of dependency on big pharma instead On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:48 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: The group is independent of insurance programs, retains privileges at hospitals, and has a set annual fee based on age. Much less expensive to be a young buck, since you do not bother showing up for more than flu shots, and your physical. Old farts pay more, since you are more likely to have wear related issues. Really aged people pay top dollar, but still under $5k per annum. If I suffer some manner of illness or injury, I call and can get in that day, within hours, for treatment. There is no co pay, no forms, no screwing around. They perform standard lab testing on site, simple radiographic diagnostics, and keep a swift response on call medico who will resolve your issue then, instead of making you chat up a nurse or call center, then wait for hours to get taken care of. This is the old fashioned doctor program. Make a google search for your location to see a list of providers. clay On Mar 30, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Mountain Man wrote: What is healthcare? It sounds like most of the dialog is about insco? Clay - tell us more about this concierge medical, please. Is there an association of concierge medical to find local doc in other parts of the country? Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] SINCE WHEN (ot)
Humor a plea. On Apr 1, 2014 7:27 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Dwight wrote: Amen brother Holy... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy
James Carter had lust in his heart and was afeared of swimming rabbits. There was not enough spine in that man to deal with world issues. He did have a nice gathering at Camp David that had no impact, other than good press. We had 440 days of very embarrassing cowardice under his watch. That he move on to build homes, it to be his lasting legacy clay On Apr 1, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I would point out that Carter is the only president in current history to not have a shot fired during his presidency. Watch him on Bill Maher this week, it's worth seeing. Dan On Apr 1, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Van Knutson wrote: The market always self corrects, with or without the intervention of the next president. Sometimes you have to correct hard, like in 1929, and then rebuild the country. One way or the other, we will see the solution to this. DBV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
Not to pick a fight, but isn't that exactly how the world really works? Companies and countries rise and fall on the decisions and actions of a few leaders and other key people even if everyone else is doing good work. I recall several cases when my company lost money because of the actions of a few folks working a particular contract and almost nobody got a raise or bonus. -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 6:29 PM ... Let me posit this to the group: How would you like your performance review and ultimately your potential for a raise or bonus be determined by the performance of people in your company that you don't even work with? ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
Mark Steyn (a Canadian) has a lot to say on this subject if you care to watch his videos (e.g. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mark+steynislam or read his books (e.g. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooksfield -keywords=mark+steyn. The demographic data (both native and Islamic) is compelling. Will a new Charles Martel emerge on this side of the pond or will our culture silently surrender in the name of diversity and political correctness (which is an euphemism for censorship and thought control)? Maybe we have become Rome. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 3:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so... https://www.google.ca/#q=england+adopts+sharia+law This scares the you know what out of me. Canada is so mamby pamby on this sort of thing that it will probably come to us too. Our young Mr. Trudeau wants to be PM and hangs out with this crowd telling them how he can fix things for them. It is truly rediculous. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
I should clarify this: My ability to get an increase in pay and keep my job is not determined by how well the students I teach directly perform, but how well students whom I never have contact with do. To add to this, a percentage of those student may be special ed kids who get tested like mainstream kids despite their inability to even understand basic concepts. In other words, they will, without exception, fail any and all standardized tests they are given. I understand the concept of private sector businesses with a few people making global decisions that affect all. However, I have never worked for a private sector company who evaluated my performance by using the performance of other employees to judge mine. You are saying that if management makes a poor decision that affects the company as a whole, everyone suffers. I get that. But - if I do my job well I still get recognized for my efforts, even if it is not reflected in compensation. My performance review is not based on the performance of others or things I have no direct connection to. That is the difference. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 1, 2014, at 8:47 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Not to pick a fight, but isn't that exactly how the world really works? Companies and countries rise and fall on the decisions and actions of a few leaders and other key people even if everyone else is doing good work. I recall several cases when my company lost money because of the actions of a few folks working a particular contract and almost nobody got a raise or bonus. -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 6:29 PM ... Let me posit this to the group: How would you like your performance review and ultimately your potential for a raise or bonus be determined by the performance of people in your company that you don't even work with? ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBZ Diesel Spin-offs
Yes for me too on my two 240D's, my 300D 2.5t my 300CD. I hope the list can maintain some of this diesel wrenching tradition even as it overhauls education health care. On Apr 1, 2014 7:59 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: One of the great things about wrenching on my 300TD and 300SD and reading this list is the Diesel knowledge I gained. Probably like most, all my previous experience was with gassers. Since I owned two Diesel sail boats and nor a Diesel tractor (plus the 300SD) and this Diesel knowledge had really paid off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy
The market always self corrects, with or without the intervention of the next president. Sometimes you have to correct hard, like in 1929, and then rebuild the country. One way or the other, we will see the solution to this. DBV THe french society in the late 1700s corrected after the opulence of their monarch. Our monarchy will end the same way, if the economic collapse does not come first. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Self correcting economy
I would point out that Carter is the only president in current history to not have a shot fired during his presidency. Watch him on Bill Maher this week, it's worth seeing. Dan that doesn't save him from being the second worst president in history, and the second weakest president in history.BTW, he held both records until 5 years ago. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBZ Diesel Spin-offs
Hmmm. Diesel driven health care and education? I think we may be on to something... Klatta-klatta We need to be sure to CHECK THE FUSES, though. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 1, 2014, at 9:40 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes for me too on my two 240D's, my 300D 2.5t my 300CD. I hope the list can maintain some of this diesel wrenching tradition even as it overhauls education health care. On Apr 1, 2014 7:59 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: One of the great things about wrenching on my 300TD and 300SD and reading this list is the Diesel knowledge I gained. Probably like most, all my previous experience was with gassers. Since I owned two Diesel sail boats and nor a Diesel tractor (plus the 300SD) and this Diesel knowledge had really paid off. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger On 01/04/14 05:45, Rich Thomas wrote: It is a negative ground. I just clip both to the battery posts (red + , black -) or you can do the thing with the black clamp to something bare metal, which is to minimize sparking when attaching/detaching the clamps, which could ignite the gases that come out the battery when charging (hydrogen and maybe some sulfurous stuff). But you can live dangerously! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBZ Diesel Spin-offs
Yes for me too on my two 240D's, my 300D 2.5t my 300CD. I hope the list can maintain some of this diesel wrenching tradition even as it overhauls education health care. On Apr 1, 2014 7:59 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: One of the great things about wrenching on my 300TD and 300SD and reading this list is the Diesel knowledge I gained. Probably like most, all my previous experience was with gassers. Since I owned two Diesel sail boats and nor a Diesel tractor (plus the 300SD) and this Diesel knowledge had really paid off. Ask away. I learned diesel mechanics out of necessity in 1972 when the recently stealership rebuilt engine in my 200D crapped out on I 80. after taking it apart and consulting experts, the only moving parts that were reusable were 6 of the 8 valves. Outside, the IP was reused after also being rebuilt. I have worked on detriot gassers and a few MB gassers and quite a few Diesels since then. Before that I was responsible for working on trucks and cars and tractors, and motorcycles since I was big enough to turn a wrench or run a wire brush or sandpaper to prep stuff for painting. Lacking MB questions, we talk about other stuff. There is a great talent pool here. For those who want more MB content, as more MB questions. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Hey Andrew!
Did you get the offlist messages I sent you about the wheels? Re-sent yesterday again since I never got any response. Are you mad at me? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] at first this seemed like a decent car
but it appears to have much rust, and what the heck happened to the door panels. Still interesting. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SEL-4-5-early-prod-unit-63-1972-Mercedes-300SEL-4-5-W109-grey-blue-/281300398572?forcerrptr=truehash=item417ecf71ecitem=281300398572pt=US_Cars_Trucks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBZ Diesel Spin-offs
Dwight wrote: I hope the list can maintain some of this diesel wrenching tradition even as it overhauls education health care. We need to define terms. Education as fedgov indoctrinates is not practical, essentially. Health care as fedgov speaks is insco, not care. Care is eating and exercise. We can't fix stupid, but we can have a decent dialog without being dumb. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] 124 rear suspension
What should mech. and I look for on my 124 ('87 300D w/135 kmi) rear suspension tomorrow afternoon? Loose or worn stuff, that is. Car has felt squirrelly recently; pumped up tires a bit; 'found rt. rear slightly low. 'Drives a little better. Wilt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension
What should mech. and I look for on my 124 ('87 300D w/135 kmi) rear suspension tomorrow afternoon? Loose or worn stuff, that is. Car has felt squirrelly recently; pumped up tires a bit; 'found rt. rear slightly low. 'Drives a little better. Wilt __ If the links on each side are not obviously loose, then you probably need to replace the rear subframe bushings. 4 of them. not hard, but maybe something you can no longer manage alone. Use Dawn straight from the bottle to lube the new ones to put in. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension
Here's the drill: ANY link with a displaced center or shreds of rubber needs to be replaced. Symptoms of bad links are torque steer (especially on acceleration) and excessive sensitivity to crosswinds. Check for uneven wear on rear tires -- droopy shocks will cause them to wear on the insides. Jack up and check for in/out play at the bottom of the wheel carrier -- if present, the bearing or the inner pivot bushing is shot in the spring link (these are repaceable). Outer bearing will usually click when bad. Toe in/toe out looseness (that is, if you can move the tire as if steering the car) means the tie rod is shot. Get a long straight edge and hold against the tire and sight down between straightedge and doors/frame. If the tire isn't just about dead straight ahead, and the other side is equally out but in the same direction, the subframe bushings are shot. I need to finish mine, I've got the parts to put new bushing and bearing in the spring link and new tie rods in, along with new shocks. I also have the subframe mounts, again just need to find the time. I've replaced the rest of the links. If you do anything with tie rods or subframe bushings, you will need to get a proper 4-wheel alignment done. You cannot adjust by eye well enough to make the car safe to drive except to the alignment shop. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension
Yep, it's excessively sensitive to crosswinds, but haven't noticed any need to hold left or right rudder during acceleration. ;) 'Even felt dangerous enough to scare me, though, several days ago at 70 mph in crosswind. Was much better after inflating tires (rt. rear was low) to proper pressure, but I still want a good look at suspension. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension Here's the drill: ANY link with a displaced center or shreds of rubber needs to be replaced. Symptoms of bad links are torque steer (especially on acceleration) and excessive sensitivity to crosswinds. Check for uneven wear on rear tires -- droopy shocks will cause them to wear on the insides. Jack up and check for in/out play at the bottom of the wheel carrier -- if present, the bearing or the inner pivot bushing is shot in the spring link (these are repaceable). Outer bearing will usually click when bad. Toe in/toe out looseness (that is, if you can move the tire as if steering the car) means the tie rod is shot. Get a long straight edge and hold against the tire and sight down between straightedge and doors/frame. If the tire isn't just about dead straight ahead, and the other side is equally out but in the same direction, the subframe bushings are shot. I need to finish mine, I've got the parts to put new bushing and bearing in the spring link and new tie rods in, along with new shocks. I also have the subframe mounts, again just need to find the time. I've replaced the rest of the links. If you do anything with tie rods or subframe bushings, you will need to get a proper 4-wheel alignment done. You cannot adjust by eye well enough to make the car safe to drive except to the alignment shop. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension
Yep, if it needs repair, I'll have the mech/tech do it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension What should mech. and I look for on my 124 ('87 300D w/135 kmi) rear suspension tomorrow afternoon? Loose or worn stuff, that is. Car has felt squirrelly recently; pumped up tires a bit; 'found rt. rear slightly low. 'Drives a little better. Wilt __ If the links on each side are not obviously loose, then you probably need to replace the rear subframe bushings. 4 of them. not hard, but maybe something you can no longer manage alone. Use Dawn straight from the bottle to lube the new ones to put in. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 rear suspension
Even felt dangerous enough to scare me, Worst handling car I've ever driven was our 190D with _slightly_ bad rear links. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.