Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-27 Thread Craig
On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 22:26:09 -0500 OK Don  wrote:

> If Froggy is  '74 as I suspect, he needs a tumbler from a 115 or 116,
> nothing much later. It should heave the edge cut key. It might be that
> Curt is correct, you need to clean it, and possibly need a new key, but
> the tumbler assembly might be OK.

Yes, Clay needs a tumbler from a 115 or 116.

Curt, however, just wanted a side-cut tumbler to play with.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-27 Thread OK Don
If Froggy is  '74 as I suspect, he needs a tumbler from a 115 or 116,
nothing much later. It should heave the edge cut key. It might be that Curt
is correct, you need to clean it, and possibly need a new key, but the
tumbler assembly might be OK.

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Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-27 Thread Craig
On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 09:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
 wrote:

> I can't imagine the side cut keys are significantly different although
> I've never had one to play with. If somebody wanted to donate a tumbler
> from one I'd spend some time on it.

I might be able to liberate one of the tumblers from our '94 E420.


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[MBZ] Presidential Wilton Wheels

2014-04-27 Thread Mitch Haley

Presidential???

http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/4443481321.html

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Re: [MBZ] Hatch latch.

2014-04-27 Thread Frederick Moir
Max.
Both good points. Thanks.
 
Fred Moir 
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>
> From: Meade Dillon 
>To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:04 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hatch latch.
> 
>
>That noise was a motor pulling the hatch shut.
>
>My first guess is the wiring at the hinge has flexed too many times and
>your may have a broken wire or two.
>
>Max Dillon,
>Charleston SC
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hatch latch.

2014-04-27 Thread Meade Dillon
That noise was a motor pulling the hatch shut.

My first guess is the wiring at the hinge has flexed too many times and
your may have a broken wire or two.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Hatch latch.

2014-04-27 Thread WILTON

Locking actuator or locking system supply pump?

Wilt

- Original Message - 
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 3:37 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Hatch latch.


Hi, all.
My '87 300TD used to have a whirr after closing the rear hatch but no longer 
does that.

It still opens and closes without the whirring noise.
Is this a problem or should I just RTFM.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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Re: [MBZ] Hatch latch.

2014-04-27 Thread Dwight Giles
Could it be that a whirring critter in there has expired?
On Apr 27, 2014 4:27 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:

> Or a cursory glance at the FM may be all that is necessary.  :<)
>
> Wilt
>
> - Original Message - From: "Frederick Moir"  >
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 3:37 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Hatch latch.
>
>
> Hi, all.
> My '87 300TD used to have a whirr after closing the rear hatch but no
> longer does that.
> It still opens and closes without the whirring noise.
> Is this a problem or should I just RTFM.
>
> Fred Moir
> Lynn MA
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Re: [MBZ] Hatch latch.

2014-04-27 Thread WILTON

Or a cursory glance at the FM may be all that is necessary.  :<)

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Frederick Moir" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 3:37 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Hatch latch.


Hi, all.
My '87 300TD used to have a whirr after closing the rear hatch but no longer 
does that.

It still opens and closes without the whirring noise.
Is this a problem or should I just RTFM.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.
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[MBZ] Hatch latch.

2014-04-27 Thread Frederick Moir
Hi, all.
My '87 300TD used to have a whirr after closing the rear hatch but no longer 
does that.
It still opens and closes without the whirring noise.
Is this a problem or should I just RTFM.
 
Fred Moir 
Lynn MA 
Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] 5 5 5

2014-04-27 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox6d5SE7kKI

:)


On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 10:08 AM, WILTON  wrote:

> I'm here.  'Loud and clear.
>
> 'May hafta throw in another silly Sondy Tale or, maybe even a George
> (George AFB, CA) Tale.  ;<)
>
> Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-27 Thread Jim Cathey

107's, with their near-20-year run, exhibit quite a
variation over the years.  ACC, engines, keys, etc.
Our 1983 and 1986 SL's used different keys, for example.
1986 was side-cut, the 1983 was old-school edge-cut.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-27 Thread Curt Raymond
I'm I right in assuming 107 keys are side cut like 124/201 keys?

For the edge cut keys like a 123 I think the conventional wisdom that you 
replace the tumbler is wrong. The tumbler itself has absolutely no wear items 
at all that I can detect. What happens is the old lubricant gets gooey, 
actually since the old lubricant is probably just graphite its other crap that 
gets into the tumbler that gets gooey, plus brass shaved off the wafers. My '78 
240D got sticky a couple years ago. I took it apart and cleaned it real good 
with brake cleaner. Then I rebuilt it so it is keyed the same as the doors 
which it wasn't before. Its not brain surgery, the tumbler is a very simple 
piece of kit. I buffed it good so the outside turned nicely in the housing and 
its been good for at least 2 years...

I can't imagine the side cut keys are significantly different although I've 
never had one to play with. If somebody wanted to donate a tumbler from one I'd 
spend some time on it.

-Curt

Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 15:36:20 -0700
From: clay 
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Subject: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers
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I went to the dealer to order a fresh tumbler for Froggy.  We spent a half hour 
on the EPC trying to figure out what the heck to do .  The datac ard does not 
show for the car, and the parts are not available anymore.  There were five 
tumbler options and they all showed as being substituted to another part that 
is not available.  The next step substituted to having to replace the whole 
lock system, but that was not able to get ordered and said to purchase a 
replacement steering column.  That is not available.

Parts guy plans to call Germany or maybe a Unicorn breeder so he can understand 
how to resolve the issue.  I am thinking the early R107 and the W116 share an 
ignition lock.  If there are problems getting replacement parts, all the 1970's 
cars are ticking time bombs.

Anybody think a lock smith can rebuild the original?


clay 

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Re: [MBZ] 5 5 5

2014-04-27 Thread Frederick Moir
Wilton.
I'm all ears.
 
Fred Moir 
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>
> From: WILTON 
>To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 11:08 AM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] 5 5 5
> 
>
>I'm here.  'Loud and clear.
>
>'May hafta throw in another silly Sondy Tale or, maybe even a George (George 
>AFB, CA) Tale.  ;<)
>
>Wilton
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Frederick Moir" 
>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 10:46 AM
>Subject: [MBZ] 5 5 5
>
>
>Tetsing 5 5 5
>
>Fred Moir
>Lynn MA
>Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] 5 5 5

2014-04-27 Thread WILTON

I'm here.  'Loud and clear.

'May hafta throw in another silly Sondy Tale or, maybe even a George (George 
AFB, CA) Tale.  ;<)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Frederick Moir" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2014 10:46 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 5 5 5


Tetsing 5 5 5

Fred Moir
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[MBZ] 5 5 5

2014-04-27 Thread Frederick Moir
Tetsing 5 5 5 
 
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