Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

[arche...@embarqmail.com]

On 6/4/2014 10:58 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Gerry wrote:

If you look at Americas position among the nations
of the world, I don't think you can say the U.S. is unsuccessful.


If we want to be seriously realistic, I think we should be saying this
to each other.  Yes, the U.S. is unsuccessful.  Really.  Once we can
own up to this reality, we can chart a path to proper and effective
solutions.  Until then, the slide to total depravity that we are
suffering these days will continue until failure is exceptional, as
all national failures are exceptional.  Shall we join Greece and Rome
in the list of exceptional failures of the eons?  Let's be man enough
to get our heads out of the sand and own up our unsuccessfulness so
that we can get on with success.  Please.
mao

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Domestically you may be right, but I am looking at Americas position 
among the nations of the world.
All nations eventually decline.  The problem is that we have no way of 
knowing when our nation will do so.  Looking at the data link on my 
email to Scott:


http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-worldwide-network-of-us-military-bases/5564

 it doesn't look like it's going to happen any time soon.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Deep water adventure, now dead starter?

[OK Don]

I'd just polish it up, and apply a light oil, LPS #2 perhaps. Some 400 grit
or so sandpaper on the armature might be in order before the DeOxit as well.


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Meade Dillon  wrote:

> After a little thought, I think no grease, just polish it up.  Thoughts?
>
> Max Dillon,
> Charleston SC
>  On Jun 5, 2014 9:35 PM, "Meade Dillon"  wrote:
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] finally & VA

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On 6/4/2014 11:53 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:

Really?

G:  Compared to other nations of similar size, I would put the U.S. at 
the top; militarily, economically, and even domestically although it 
doesn't seem that way to those of us who have seen our standard of 
living go down due to lost jobs, etc.

  It appears to me that Al Qaeda has accomplished their objective of
repelling the US from the Middle East.
G:  If we look only at the Middle East it's a mixed bag.  We still have 
troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, and smaller ME nations.  The only ME nation 
challenging us with anything besides guerrilla warfare is Iran, and 
their bombastic leaders have given way to more reasonable leaders.  We 
failed in pacifying A'stan sufficiently such that a pipeline could be built
from the other -stans to an ocean accessible port, but we "have" secured 
the traditional ME oil supply.  The domination of A'stan has frustrated 
many world powers.  We are in good company. (grin)

   China and Russia, the other big kids
on the block, seem unconcerned about potential US intervention.
G:  It may seem that way, but China is still reticent about declaring 
their domination of the South China Sea, and Russia is no longer 
militarily belligerent about American presence in and support of 
Ukraine.  (They have withdrawn their troops from the border.)

   Meanwhile,
China is buying up the US (piecemeal)
G:  They are simply investing in land and property rather than 
treasuries which currently pay little interest.  If they get too 
aggressive militarily or otherwise, land and property can be confiscated 
much more easily than treasuries which can be sold very rapidly 
electronically.
There was much concern about Japanese investments during the 1980s, but 
their supposed ill effects have not materialized.
The following gives some idea of foreign investment in the U.S. and 
vice-versa:


http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc1/ForeignInvestmentintheUnitedStates.html

  while Europe is blackmailed by Russian
energy.
G:  True, but it offers U.S. and European oil/gas corporations an 
opportunity to sell more of their product to Europe which will 
contribute to Americas balance of payments.

   From where I stand it seems delusional to believe the US still has
great influence in the world.  I would be interested in views of some of our
non-US members.
G:  When the U.S. has had a serious disagreement with other nations 
since the demise of Soviet Russia,  which nation usually backs down?


My humble opinion is that the U.S. is following the dictum of President 
Teddy Roosevelt: "Walk softly but carry a big stick." This sometimes 
confuses other nations, but U.S. "gunboat/economic diplomacy has usually 
brought them around; "so far!"

Gerry
PS:  It's difficult to find a published estimate of Americas worldwide 
power, but critics do offer such data even though it often comes with 
much "anti-Americanism" such as the following from Canada:


http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-worldwide-network-of-us-military-bases/5564

Gerry

-Original Message-
From: arche...@embarqmail.com

...  If you look at Americas position among the
nations of the world, I don't think you can say the U.S. is unsuccessful.




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Re: [MBZ] Deep water adventure, now dead starter?

[Meade Dillon]

After a little thought, I think no grease, just polish it up.  Thoughts?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
 On Jun 5, 2014 9:35 PM, "Meade Dillon"  wrote:

> Solenoid plunger and barrel quite corroded.  Would a dielectric grease be
> appropriate?
>
> Max Dillon,
> Charleston SC
>
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Re: [MBZ] Deep water adventure, now dead starter?

[Meade Dillon]

Solenoid plunger and barrel quite corroded.  Would a dielectric grease be
appropriate?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Deep water adventure, now dead starter?

[Meade Dillon]

FLAPS tested starter after I removed it.  Owner/manager is a Benz guy, he
thinks a good cleaning should restore dependable operation, showed me what
he'd do.  The starter failed the first test, but then passed the next
four.  The end with the brushes was pretty hot, not normal, he thinks it
has corroded from the swim, but should respond well to cleaning.

Deoxit to the rescue!

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT - burning carbon

[Mountain Man]

Peter wrote:
> ...essentially zero hydrogen in coal.

Does both oxygen and hydrogen burn as the natural gas is consumed?
Or, are we releasing other things that might change climates?
I heard one line about coal today that seemed interesting.  Since coal
is such a bad guy, why not use as much today while we can.  Plus, the
coal we don't use now will be used in china someday after we phase out
of using coal.  Coal, natural gas, oil - these are all carbon fuel
used to produce electrical energy, as if electricity is the be-all
end-all of life.  Something else needs to be invented.  What? - I
dunno but we are in one serious rut.
mao

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[MBZ] OT - Jay's Bio-Diesel car

[OK Don]

Interesting car ---

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Re: [MBZ] OT - burning carbon

[OK Don]

OK - that makes sense now. I thought I was missing something. We're also
making water ---


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Peter Frederick 
wrote:

> You are forgetting the hydrogen -- four hydrogens plus to oxygens per
> carbon atom in natural gas, essentially zero hydrogen in coal.
>
> Peter
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Deep water adventure, now dead starter?

[Craig]

On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 19:34:47 -0400 Meade Dillon 
wrote:

> FLAPS tested alternator and battery, they passed.
> 
> All electrical connections tight, clean.
> 
> Voltage at starter drops to about 10.3 volts when the starter does
> finally turn.  Doesn't change (from about 11.7 volts) when the key is
> turned but the starter doesn't.
> 
> Voltage drop from battery to starter is zero when the key is turned but
> the starter doesn't, and the drop is 0.3 volts when the starter does
> engage.

Sounds like the solenoid isn't pulling in and connecting the starter to
the battery.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Deep water adventure, now dead starter?

[Meade Dillon]

FLAPS tested alternator and battery, they passed.

All electrical connections tight, clean.

Voltage at starter drops to about 10.3 volts when the starter does finally
turn.  Doesn't change (from about 11.7 volts) when the key is turned but
the starter doesn't.

Voltage drop from battery to starter is zero when the key is turned but the
starter doesn't, and the drop is 0.3 volts when the starter does engage.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
 On Jun 4, 2014 5:57 PM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:

> On 04/06/2014 4:49 PM, Meade Dillon wrote:
>
>> I'm sure it's dry by now, I've been driving the car everyday since
>> Saturday, today is the first day the starter acted up.
>>
>> I'm wondering if some flotsam is jamming the solenoid?
>>
>> Max Dillon,
>> Charleston SC
>>
>>
>>  I have a hard time believing that the water killed it if it worked for
> days after the event.
> Either it was about to go anyway, or there is some other issue.
> Take it apart and clean it out good and test it or get it tested before
> buying a new one.
>
> But, maybe before you do all that, check the easier things first.
>
> Are the cables clean?
> Is the battery up to the right voltage?
> Is the alternator putting out the right voltage etc.
> Are the grounds good?
> Is the neutral safety switch good? It is likely under the car and got wet
> too?
>
> Always try the easy things first. We do have a tendancy to rush into
> things and assume things that we ought not to.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - burning carbon

[Peter Frederick]

You are forgetting the hydrogen -- four hydrogens plus to oxygens per  
carbon atom in natural gas, essentially zero hydrogen in coal.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT - burning carbon

[Scott Ritchey]

Natural gas is a hydrocarbon so you obtain heat energy from oxidizing both
the carbon and the hydrogen.  There is already some energy in the
hydrocarbon atomic bonds so it's less energy that an equivalent amount of
elemental hydrogen and carbon but still considerable energy from the
hydrogen.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 6:26 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] OT - burning carbon
> 
> Forgetting the whole question of climate change, global warming, etc. -
> how
> does burning natural gas instead of coal reduce carbon dioxide emissions?
> 
> The way I see it, one carbon atom combines with two oxygen atoms,
> releasing
> energy. There is a finite amount of energy released when this happens. So
> you are either burning very short chains of carbon with gas, or long
> chains
> of carbon with coal, but it's still the same amount of energy per atom of
> carbon burned, so I don't see how you can get less carbon dioxide while
> producing the same amount of electricity by burning gas.
> 
> What am I missing here, or is this just more smoke and mirrors from the
> petroleum lobby?
> 
> We get more miles per gallon of fuel when burning Diesel instead of
> gasoline because there are more carbon atoms per gallon of Diesel. Makes
> sense to me - but I'm producing the same amount of carbon dioxide either
> way.
> 
> --
> OK Don
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> who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - burning carbon

[Meade Dillon]

I suspect the answer is that natural gas is burned in a turbine engine, of
recent vintage and roughly 60% efficient, whereas burning coal to flash
water into steam to turn a turbine to turn a generator is only about 30%
efficient.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

On Jun 5, 2014 6:26 PM, "OK Don"  wrote:
>
> Forgetting the whole question of climate change, global warming, etc. -
how
> does burning natural gas instead of coal reduce carbon dioxide emissions?
>
> The way I see it, one carbon atom combines with two oxygen atoms,
releasing
> energy. There is a finite amount of energy released when this happens. So
> you are either burning very short chains of carbon with gas, or long
chains
> of carbon with coal, but it's still the same amount of energy per atom of
> carbon burned, so I don't see how you can get less carbon dioxide while
> producing the same amount of electricity by burning gas.
>
> What am I missing here, or is this just more smoke and mirrors from the
> petroleum lobby?
>
> We get more miles per gallon of fuel when burning Diesel instead of
> gasoline because there are more carbon atoms per gallon of Diesel. Makes
> sense to me - but I'm producing the same amount of carbon dioxide either
> way.
>
> --
> OK Don
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[MBZ] OT - burning carbon

[OK Don]

Forgetting the whole question of climate change, global warming, etc. - how
does burning natural gas instead of coal reduce carbon dioxide emissions?

The way I see it, one carbon atom combines with two oxygen atoms, releasing
energy. There is a finite amount of energy released when this happens. So
you are either burning very short chains of carbon with gas, or long chains
of carbon with coal, but it's still the same amount of energy per atom of
carbon burned, so I don't see how you can get less carbon dioxide while
producing the same amount of electricity by burning gas.

What am I missing here, or is this just more smoke and mirrors from the
petroleum lobby?

We get more miles per gallon of fuel when burning Diesel instead of
gasoline because there are more carbon atoms per gallon of Diesel. Makes
sense to me - but I'm producing the same amount of carbon dioxide either
way.

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Re: [MBZ] I probably shouldn't buy this...

[OK Don]

The coupe is not as cute as the roadster - I was always threatening to bash
in the center of the roof of mine to give it a pagoda roof. I think the
coupe is a better highway driver due to the longer wheel base. The 5.0
rally cars were all coupes 


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

> I should probably stay away from rusty 4.5L C107s, right?
>>
>
> Rhetorical question?  I've never been too attracted to
> the C107, whereas the R107 is worth some trouble.  Still,
> if it runs (or can be made to) and is cheap enough it
> could be fun.  Wouldn't be my first choice, unless the
> interior was particularly nice or something.
>
> -- Jim
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] I probably shouldn't buy this...

[WILTON]

You mean the 21(?) window bus?

Wilton

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Dan Penoff wrote:
Like a VW window bus? Have you seen the stupid money those are bringing 
these days?


Does "window bus" mean it's a passenger bus with side windows, or does it 
mean it's got a split windshield?


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Re: [MBZ] I probably shouldn't buy this...

[Dan Penoff]

Both, really. I'm talking about the old VW busses with windows and the 23 
little Windows around the top.

They're fetching upwards of $50k in good shape these days.

Dan

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> On Jun 5, 2014, at 2:10 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> Like a VW window bus? Have you seen the stupid money those are bringing these 
> days?
> 
> Dan who used to have a 1961 barn door van
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2014, at 12:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
>> 
>> One day the C107 will be so rare a pristine exqample will be worth $0s
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Rich Thomas <
>> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Go for a Kleb price and you would at least have a bunch of parts to sell
>>> and get your dinero back.
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6/5/14 9:54 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
 
 I should probably stay away from rusty 4.5L C107s, right?
 
 Rhetorical question?  I've never been too attracted to
 the C107, whereas the R107 is worth some trouble.  Still,
 if it runs (or can be made to) and is cheap enough it
 could be fun.  Wouldn't be my first choice, unless the
 interior was particularly nice or something.
 
 -- Jim
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] I probably shouldn't buy this...

[Mitch Haley]

Dan Penoff wrote:

Like a VW window bus? Have you seen the stupid money those are bringing these 
days?


Does "window bus" mean it's a passenger bus with side windows, or does it mean 
it's got a split windshield?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] I probably shouldn't buy this...

[Gary Hurst]

i remember back in the 80s when VW vans and bugs in running order coudl be
had all day long for 500 bucks.  i hear it was the same with minis in the
UK.  ah, well  :(


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Dan Penoff  wrote:

> Like a VW window bus? Have you seen the stupid money those are bringing
> these days?
>
> Dan who used to have a 1961 barn door van
>
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> > On Jun 5, 2014, at 12:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > One day the C107 will be so rare a pristine exqample will be worth
> $0s
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Rich Thomas <
> > richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Go for a Kleb price and you would at least have a bunch of parts to sell
> >> and get your dinero back.
> >>
> >> --R
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 6/5/14 9:54 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I should probably stay away from rusty 4.5L C107s, right?
> >>>
> >>> Rhetorical question?  I've never been too attracted to
> >>> the C107, whereas the R107 is worth some trouble.  Still,
> >>> if it runs (or can be made to) and is cheap enough it
> >>> could be fun.  Wouldn't be my first choice, unless the
> >>> interior was particularly nice or something.
> >>>
> >>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] I probably shouldn't buy this...

[Meade Dillon]

If you do bite on that, first question should be "When was the last time
anyone tried to start it?"  I think I remember reading that if rust has
formed in the gas tank, trying to start car will mess up the fuel pump and
maybe other fuel injection bits ($).

Need to check the gas tank, maybe drain/flush, or rig a temporary gas tank.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] I probably shouldn't buy this...

[Dan Penoff]

Like a VW window bus? Have you seen the stupid money those are bringing these 
days?

Dan who used to have a 1961 barn door van

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 5, 2014, at 12:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> One day the C107 will be so rare a pristine exqample will be worth $0s
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Rich Thomas <
> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
> 
>> Go for a Kleb price and you would at least have a bunch of parts to sell
>> and get your dinero back.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/5/14 9:54 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
>>> 
>>> I should probably stay away from rusty 4.5L C107s, right?
>>> 
>>> Rhetorical question?  I've never been too attracted to
>>> the C107, whereas the R107 is worth some trouble.  Still,
>>> if it runs (or can be made to) and is cheap enough it
>>> could be fun.  Wouldn't be my first choice, unless the
>>> interior was particularly nice or something.
>>> 
>>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] I probably shouldn't buy this...

[Randy Bennell]

But we may not live that long.

Nevertheless, what does one expect for $500? I know asking is $600 but 
most folks willing to come down some so maybe even less than $500.
Also remember no such thing as a cheap MB but the risk is small at the 
outset and if it proves to be a pile of junk, then one sells some parts 
and looks for another project.


I have not done so with MBs but I have acquired and disposed of a number 
of nearly derelict boats in the past 5 years and have not lost any money 
- just some time.


I have one boat left that I hope to fix and use. Never will be valuable 
but hopefully it will not be too expensive to repair and will serve us well.
A 20 foot aluminum Lund with an inline 6 cylinder 165 HP Chevy engine 
coupled to a Mercruiser outdrive etc.
Needs new plywood floors etc and as I said, will never be valuable but 
is big and relatively tough etc.

Not planning to make it plush or all that pretty.
I paid $1K for it on a big tandem axle trailer with a spare outdrive so 
I don't see how I can lose.




On 05/06/2014 11:36 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

One day the C107 will be so rare a pristine exqample will be worth $0s


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:


Go for a Kleb price and you would at least have a bunch of parts to sell
and get your dinero back.

--R


On 6/5/14 9:54 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:


I should probably stay away from rusty 4.5L C107s, right?
Rhetorical question?  I've never been too attracted to
the C107, whereas the R107 is worth some trouble.  Still,
if it runs (or can be made to) and is cheap enough it
could be fun.  Wouldn't be my first choice, unless the
interior was particularly nice or something.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] I probably shouldn't buy this...

[Andrew Strasfogel]

One day the C107 will be so rare a pristine exqample will be worth $0s


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> Go for a Kleb price and you would at least have a bunch of parts to sell
> and get your dinero back.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 6/5/14 9:54 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:
>
>> I should probably stay away from rusty 4.5L C107s, right?
>>>
>>
>> Rhetorical question?  I've never been too attracted to
>> the C107, whereas the R107 is worth some trouble.  Still,
>> if it runs (or can be made to) and is cheap enough it
>> could be fun.  Wouldn't be my first choice, unless the
>> interior was particularly nice or something.
>>
>> -- Jim
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[MBZ] OT: D-Day Anniversary

[Tim Crone]

Thought there might be some interest in this, the CBS news reports from
D-Day:
https://archive.org/details/CBD440606CBSDDayCBS

As always, a debt of gratitude to those of you who served in both peacetime
and conflict.

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] I probably shouldn't buy this...

[Rich Thomas]

Go for a Kleb price and you would at least have a bunch of parts to sell 
and get your dinero back.


--R

On 6/5/14 9:54 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

I should probably stay away from rusty 4.5L C107s, right?


Rhetorical question?  I've never been too attracted to
the C107, whereas the R107 is worth some trouble.  Still,
if it runs (or can be made to) and is cheap enough it
could be fun.  Wouldn't be my first choice, unless the
interior was particularly nice or something.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] I probably shouldn't buy this...

[Jim Cathey]

I should probably stay away from rusty 4.5L C107s, right?


Rhetorical question?  I've never been too attracted to
the C107, whereas the R107 is worth some trouble.  Still,
if it runs (or can be made to) and is cheap enough it
could be fun.  Wouldn't be my first choice, unless the
interior was particularly nice or something.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] injector Pump removal

[Larry Turner]

Thanks Max - good list/instructions.   if the temp moderates a little 
and the stars align, I'll give it a try...


Larry

On 6/4/2014 4:25 PM, Meade Dillon wrote:

Also keep all the metal injection lines - pricey to replace.

Only real "gotcha" is that the bolt holding the IP to the IP timer is
reverse threaded.

Please grab the power steering pump if it is tandem (i.e. has four hose
connections instead of two, because the car either has SLS or ASD), and
I'll reimburse you up to $100 for the pump.

I'd also love to have the upper radiator hose with hose clamps, in order to
make a flushing hose.  $10?

Tools:
Lug wrench
metric sockets (10mm up to 19mm) and ratchet with extensions
metric open end wrench set (10mm up to 19mm)
5mm and 6mm hex socket bits - don't remember which size for the intake
manifold stuff
screw drivers

Remove fan shroud
Remove serpentine belt (May want to remove the radiator?)
Remove vacuum pump (may have to remove pulley from power steering?)
Remove the three bolts that go through the block (front to back) that hold
the IP to the block (these are what you must loosen to adjust the timing).
Access from engine front.
Remove the intake manifold
Remove the metal injection lines
Remove the IP mount at rear of pump
May have to remove cruise control actuator
Remove bolt holding IP to the IP timer - left handed threads - access from
engine front.
Remove various vacuum / electrical connections

-Max



On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Larry Turner  wrote:


Hi Gang --
Our local Pull n pay has a 91 300D and i was thinking I should get the IP
if the price is right to keep as a spare.  What tools would I need to
remove it?  I can look at mine for the obvious, but is there anything
unusual I need to consider?


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