Re: [MBZ] Binding brakes

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

My money is on sclerotic brake lines.  Replace the rubber lines and bleed
the brakes.  Good luck!



On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Euan Kennedy via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> A question from the Colonies
>
> My 300 TD hasn't had a run for quite a while. Almost six months. Last
> week, she and I ventured out for a sunny Sunday drive.
>
> I found that the front disk brakes were binding. The faster I went of
> course the more they bound. I limped home at 50 kph which seemed to be the
> speed at which air flow over the rotors cancelled friction heat.
>
> I'm assuming that the problem lies not in the calipers but elsewhere. Any
> ideas?
>
> Cheers
>
> Euan
> Christchurch, NZ
>
> 1985 W123 300TD
> 5-spd manual
> 220K miles
>
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[MBZ] Binding brakes

[Euan Kennedy via Mercedes]

A question from the Colonies

My 300 TD hasn't had a run for quite a while. Almost six months. Last 
week, she and I ventured out for a sunny Sunday drive.


I found that the front disk brakes were binding. The faster I went of 
course the more they bound. I limped home at 50 kph which seemed to be 
the speed at which air flow over the rotors cancelled friction heat.


I'm assuming that the problem lies not in the calipers but elsewhere. 
Any ideas?


Cheers

Euan
Christchurch, NZ

1985 W123 300TD
5-spd manual
220K miles

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Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ 2014

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Thanks Jon. Looking forward to the LobstahQ.
On Sep 13, 2014 9:22 PM, "Jon Agne via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> PS:  Dimitri and I are thinking of having a “Q” between our houses in
> Maine.  We’ll call it “LobtstahQ”, and the entire list will be invited.
>
> Details to follow.
>
> Jon
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
>
> > All,
> >
> > I just want to say what a great time I had today meeting with all of the
> attendees.  It’s truly a great group of people.  The food was fantastic,
> (Thanks Kurt and very one else) and I look forward to being there in 2015!
> >
> > Jon Agne
>
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ 2014

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

PS:  Dimitri and I are thinking of having a “Q” between our houses in Maine.  
We’ll call it “LobtstahQ”, and the entire list will be invited.

Details to follow.

Jon


On Sep 13, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:

> All,
> 
> I just want to say what a great time I had today meeting with all of the 
> attendees.  It’s truly a great group of people.  The food was fantastic, 
> (Thanks Kurt and very one else) and I look forward to being there in 2015!
> 
> Jon Agne


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[MBZ] ChowdahQ 2014

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

All,

I just want to say what a great time I had today meeting with all of the 
attendees.  It’s truly a great group of people.  The food was fantastic, 
(Thanks Kurt and very one else) and I look forward to being there in 2015!

Jon Agne
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Re: [MBZ] N

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Logic could be made that a TV camera is a device which caused public and
individual harm on the same scale as a machine gun, thus must be subject to
the same level of government control "for the public good" could it not?

Imagine if Al "notso" Sharpton were limited to 10 words, on par with the
New York gun magazine regulation making the ability to carry more than 10
bullets for your gun a felony crime. Would that "10 word civil rule" have
possibly prevented the Ferguson Mo. riots thus saving both blood and
treasure for the citizens of Mo. ?

Should not logic applied to one Amendment be equally applied to another
Amendment? And if that logic is flawed in one application, is it not
equally flawed in the other?

I never got to have discussions like this for my PhD in Liberal Underwater
Origami and Alternate Lifestyles Studies.

Thanks,

Grant...

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 3:27 PM, LarryT via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Aye!   BTW, we need to remind the anti-gunners they are attempting to deny
> the population one of their civil rights.  As you said, it is about the God
> given right to self preservation.  And to accomplish that some people need
> guns to equal the odds when the victims are too young, too old, too weak,
> too ill, too out numbered, etc.
>
> I agree completely with your suggestion we treat all amendments the same
> --  but I know the current administration wouldn't mind attacking the
> others as well and much of the population would know what was going on -
> unless it got in the way of their watching what was happening with the
> Kardashians.And the media is a toss up. They'd only object if it
> affected them directly - like the 10 word limit and no automatic devices
>
> :-)  We need to keep fighting...
>
> LarryT
> 91 300D
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: N

[G Mann via Mercedes]

A shocking and much overlooked fact. America is a Constitutional Republic [
Pledge of allegiance "and the Republic for which it stands"] not a
democracy.

It can be summed up this way;

A Democracy is two wolves and one sheep voting on what is for dinner.
 [ Majority rules]

A Republic is one well armed sheep inviting two wolves to eat all the grass
they want for dinner.
 [Individual responsibility with the right to self defense by any means
necessary]

As long as this nation functioned as a Republic, it thrived like none other
in history. As soon as it was lead to act as a democracy, it started
failing, it's citizens stopped taking responsibility, and government took
control of citizens God given rights.

Classic example.. IRS seized the Mustang Ranch in Nevada.. one of the
oldest whore houses in the USA and one of the most successful.. it also
sold booze.. Under management by IRS installed agents of the federal
government, it went bankrupt.. The government couldn't even turn a profit
selling women and whiskey. That about sums up how well every other
government agency has functioned. Please name one that has provided good
service and turned a profit or produced a product.. I can't ...

Your mileage may vary..

Grant...


On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Has anyone else noticed that when a citizen uses a gun to prevent or stop a
> crime there is zero press coverage except (sometimes) at the local level
> (and, interestingly some foreign press).  But when a gun is used to commit
> a
> crime there is persistent National coverage in the electronic and print
> media.   An intellectually honest person would want to know the degree that
> our perceptions are being warped by this shadow "Ministry of Truth."   For
> example, how many Newtowns were stopped or prevented by armed citizens or
> armed security personnel?
>
> For those that don't know, concealed carry permit/license holders are some
> of the most law-abiding people in the country.  It varies by state, but
> most
> states require extensive criminal and psychological background checks to
> obtain a carry permit/license.
>
> Scott
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From:  Addison Thompson via Mercedes
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:40 PM
> >
> > With all of the statistics and claims made about gun ownership, no one
> has
> > mentioned the huge number of people SAVED through the defensive use of a
> > gun each year. You'll never read about it in the main stream media but
> there
> > have been several studies done that indicate numbers between 500,000 and
> > 2,000,000 per year in the US. Here's an excerpt from just one, a CDC
> study
> > ordered by Obama in Jan 2013:
> > "Defensive uses of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence, although
> > the exact number remains disputed (Cook and Ludwig, 1996; Kleck, 2001a),"
> > the study reads. "Almost all national survey estimates indicate that
> defensive
> > gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by
> criminals,
> > with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3
> > million per year (Kleck, 2001a), in the context of about 300,000 violent
> crimes
> > involving firearms in 2008 (BJS, 2010)."
> > Guns are a tool, a great way to level the playing field that allows the
> weak
> > and small to defend themselves from the thugs. Remember, the courts have
> > stated numerous times that the police have no duty to protect you.
> >
> > Safe driving,
> > AT
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: N

[LarryT via Mercedes]

And records show less than 1/2% of CCW holders have been involved in 
crimes.   And that small percentage was often crimes where a concealed 
gun was inadvertently carried into a location where they are not allowed.


this is In stark contrast to the cries of  gun fights over parking 
spaces and blood running in the streets by those opposed to allowing law 
abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons.


LarryT

On 9/13/2014 4:41 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

Has anyone else noticed that when a citizen uses a gun to prevent or stop a
crime there is zero press coverage except (sometimes) at the local level
(and, interestingly some foreign press).  But when a gun is used to commit a
crime there is persistent National coverage in the electronic and print
media.   An intellectually honest person would want to know the degree that
our perceptions are being warped by this shadow "Ministry of Truth."   For
example, how many Newtowns were stopped or prevented by armed citizens or
armed security personnel?

For those that don't know, concealed carry permit/license holders are some
of the most law-abiding people in the country.  It varies by state, but most
states require extensive criminal and psychological background checks to
obtain a carry permit/license.

Scott


-Original Message-
From:  Addison Thompson via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:40 PM

With all of the statistics and claims made about gun ownership, no one has
mentioned the huge number of people SAVED through the defensive use of a
gun each year. You'll never read about it in the main stream media but

there

have been several studies done that indicate numbers between 500,000 and
2,000,000 per year in the US. Here's an excerpt from just one, a CDC study
ordered by Obama in Jan 2013:
"Defensive uses of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence, although
the exact number remains disputed (Cook and Ludwig, 1996; Kleck, 2001a),"
the study reads. "Almost all national survey estimates indicate that

defensive

gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals,
with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3
million per year (Kleck, 2001a), in the context of about 300,000 violent

crimes

involving firearms in 2008 (BJS, 2010)."
Guns are a tool, a great way to level the playing field that allows the

weak

and small to defend themselves from the thugs. Remember, the courts have
stated numerous times that the police have no duty to protect you.

Safe driving,
AT



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Re: [MBZ] N

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Aye!   BTW, we need to remind the anti-gunners they are attempting to 
deny the population one of their civil rights.  As you said, it is about 
the God given right to self preservation.  And to accomplish that some 
people need guns to equal the odds when the victims are too young, too 
old, too weak, too ill, too out numbered, etc.


I agree completely with your suggestion we treat all amendments the 
same  --  but I know the current administration wouldn't mind attacking 
the others as well and much of the population would know what was going 
on - unless it got in the way of their watching what was happening with 
the Kardashians.And the media is a toss up. They'd only object if it 
affected them directly - like the 10 word limit and no automatic devices


:-)  We need to keep fighting...

LarryT
91 300D

























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Re: [MBZ] N

[LarryT via Mercedes]

it should also be noted that the cost *avoided *by having citizens 
armed, may dwarf the costs shown in the study. Unfortuntely (AFAIK) it 
is impossible to definitively quantify the cost avoided by having armed 
citizens among us.  It has been estimated that between 15,,000 and 
4,500,000 crimes have been stopped or prevented annually by citizens 
using firearms.


LarryT

On 9/12/2014 1:59 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

I notice that the article focuses on the victims only.  Wouldn't any attempt
to solve the problem need to focus on the perpetrators rather than the
victims?  Why is it only GUN violence that we wish to combat?  Why not
attack VIOLENCE as the root problem rather than focus only on guns?

Remember that before guns existed rule was by the class of professional
fighters such as knights and samurai who spent their lives training.  Look
at history and see that democracy and firearms evolved concurrently.
Without firearms the thugs rule.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:42 AM
To: Randy Bennell; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] N

Here's an interesting new study on gun violence, and associated costs, by
the Urban Institute:

http://blog.metrotrends.org/2014/08/costs-gun-violence-hospital-price-tag/




On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Probably true but you know what they say about statistics.

And, I assume your odds of dying in gun violence are a lot higher in
the USA than they are in Canada.

RB

On 09/09/2014 7:02 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:


More people die of:
Heart disease (by almost a factor of 20) and Medical Mistakes.

Statistically speaking your chance of dying in gun violence is
astonishingly small.

-Curt






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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: N

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

i think it's because poos won't go with kleb and i to sarasota to kill that
dog!

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Addison Thompson via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Do you think that those in the media have an anti-gun/anti-self defense
> bias?
> Naw, that just couldn't be……..
> AT
>
> On Sep 13, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Scott Ritchey  wrote:
>
> Has anyone else noticed that when a citizen uses a gun to prevent or stop a
> crime there is zero press coverage except (sometimes) at the local level
> (and, interestingly some foreign press).  But when a gun is used to commit
> a
> crime there is persistent National coverage in the electronic and print
> media.   An intellectually honest person would want to know the degree that
> our perceptions are being warped by this shadow "Ministry of Truth."   For
> example, how many Newtowns were stopped or prevented by armed citizens or
> armed security personnel?
>
> For those that don't know, concealed carry permit/license holders are some
> of the most law-abiding people in the country.  It varies by state, but
> most
> states require extensive criminal and psychological background checks to
> obtain a carry permit/license.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: N

[Addison Thompson via Mercedes]

Do you think that those in the media have an anti-gun/anti-self defense bias? 
Naw, that just couldn't be……..
AT

On Sep 13, 2014, at 1:41 PM, Scott Ritchey  wrote:

Has anyone else noticed that when a citizen uses a gun to prevent or stop a
crime there is zero press coverage except (sometimes) at the local level
(and, interestingly some foreign press).  But when a gun is used to commit a
crime there is persistent National coverage in the electronic and print
media.   An intellectually honest person would want to know the degree that
our perceptions are being warped by this shadow "Ministry of Truth."   For
example, how many Newtowns were stopped or prevented by armed citizens or
armed security personnel?   

For those that don't know, concealed carry permit/license holders are some
of the most law-abiding people in the country.  It varies by state, but most
states require extensive criminal and psychological background checks to
obtain a carry permit/license.  


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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: N

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Has anyone else noticed that when a citizen uses a gun to prevent or stop a
crime there is zero press coverage except (sometimes) at the local level
(and, interestingly some foreign press).  But when a gun is used to commit a
crime there is persistent National coverage in the electronic and print
media.   An intellectually honest person would want to know the degree that
our perceptions are being warped by this shadow "Ministry of Truth."   For
example, how many Newtowns were stopped or prevented by armed citizens or
armed security personnel?   

For those that don't know, concealed carry permit/license holders are some
of the most law-abiding people in the country.  It varies by state, but most
states require extensive criminal and psychological background checks to
obtain a carry permit/license.  

Scott

> -Original Message-
> From:  Addison Thompson via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:40 PM
> 
> With all of the statistics and claims made about gun ownership, no one has
> mentioned the huge number of people SAVED through the defensive use of a
> gun each year. You'll never read about it in the main stream media but
there
> have been several studies done that indicate numbers between 500,000 and
> 2,000,000 per year in the US. Here's an excerpt from just one, a CDC study
> ordered by Obama in Jan 2013:
> "Defensive uses of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence, although
> the exact number remains disputed (Cook and Ludwig, 1996; Kleck, 2001a),"
> the study reads. "Almost all national survey estimates indicate that
defensive
> gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals,
> with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3
> million per year (Kleck, 2001a), in the context of about 300,000 violent
crimes
> involving firearms in 2008 (BJS, 2010)."
> Guns are a tool, a great way to level the playing field that allows the
weak
> and small to defend themselves from the thugs. Remember, the courts have
> stated numerous times that the police have no duty to protect you.
> 
> Safe driving,
> AT
> 


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Re: [MBZ] FYI eBay spring compressor

[John Reames via Mercedes]

I called Baum and asked point-blank.

They said that it was one of their distributors, not them...

But I wouldn't be surprised if the distinction was a legal fiction for 
business, financial and/or liability purposes.

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> On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:27, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That;s interesting, as I was looking at one of these a few weeks ago and 
> noticed that "El Paso Tools" was in the same ZIP code as Baum (they're not 
> far from me in Sarasota, FL).  I was wondering if this was a "back door" for 
> Baum to sell in the consumer space.
> 
> Sounds like it is
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:19 PM, John Reames via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I ordered a spring compressor from "El Paso Tools" (alkyracer101).
>> 
>> It arrived in a box sealed with "Baum Tools Unlimited" paper/filament tape.  
>> Inside the box was a heavy-gauge blow-molded case also bearing "Baum Tools 
>> Unlimited" labels.  Inside the case, the instructions were packed in a 
>> ziploc bag; the instructions also agreed with the branding. 
>> 
>> I believe that it's safe to presume that the tool is a Baum product, albeit 
>> at less than 1/4 of Baum's direct sales cost.
>> 
>> The tool itself appears to be of good quality; the center column uses a 
>> three lug design to hold the lower plate in place and prevent rotation, not 
>> unlike the Klann model, but I believe that the lugs are larger than the 
>> Klann ones.  The top end has a conical tapered section to hold the top plate 
>> in place and six lugs, not unlike a spline to prevent rotation.
>> 
>> The center column has ball bearing type thrust bearing.  This explains the 
>> note that use of power/impact tools would void the warranty, since the ball 
>> bearing would quickly develop brinelling.  The inner/lower "sleeves" are 
>> prevented from rotating by several square lugs that ride in grooves.  The 
>> upper section has grooves that are cut all the way through, which permits 
>> re-lubrication of the screw (which has a trapezoidal type thread instead of 
>> the square or even triangular threads as are found on cheaper units).
>> 
>> The screw itself looks to have a black oxide or similar finish, with the 
>> rest of the center column looks like it has been parkerized with a black 
>> finish.  It looks like the top end of the tool is possibly a little larger 
>> in diameter than the Klann unit that I rented from Rusty a while back (based 
>> on my memory of how it felt in my hand)
>> 
>> The plates look to be a lighter grey parkerized finish, and are nice and 
>> thick; there are two different sizes of plates, just like the Klann.  
>> 
>> Overall weight of the tool set in its case is close to 15 lbs.  I definitely 
>> feel safe in using it; I am almost tempted to replace a a cracked LCA and 
>> ball joints in a W210 despite the rain, but I am not going to for safety 
>> reasons.
>> 
>> I'll let y'all know how well it works after I get those jobs done.  I think 
>> it's a heck of a good buy at about $150 shipped!
>> 
>> -j. 
>> 
>> --
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Re: [MBZ] OT propane burners

[clay via Mercedes]

Mine die from the tin worm, but not as fast as yours.  Mostly cheap chinese 
garbage does not have enough stainless parts to live long.  The iron and sheet 
metal have begun rusting away.  I will need to source a larger gauge of metal 
to replace the junk metal.  Probably looking at forged instead of bent sheet 
metal and low quality high temp paint

clay

On Sep 12, 2014, at 4:39 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote:

> Speaking of Propane grills - we bought one 3 or 4 years ago and it has 
> suffered from rusting very badly.   It has little sheetmetal clips that hold 
> the heat shields in place - all are basically gone from rust.  i do keep my 
> grill out side but its cover is always closed once the grill has cooled a 
> bit  It wasn't a cheap grill either - well everything is relative - but 
> we paid between $150 and $200 for it.  That's not cheap for me.  I know SS 
> grills are available but I suspect the prices are pretty steep.
> 
> Does everyone see their grills disappear before their eyes or am I the only 
> one with a grill that enjoys rusting so much?
> 
> LarryT
> 
> On 9/11/2014 6:10 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>> Turkey friers usually run 70,000 to 95,000 btu.  Lotta heat.  I don't use 
>> anywhere near that much for canning.
>> 
>> Not to knock coleman stoves, but a propane burner is much more convenient if 
>> you also have a propane grill.
>> 
>> Peter
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[MBZ] Serious Goodwood car pR0n

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

http://jalopnik.com/i-found-gearhead-heaven-at-full-throttle-on-an-old-engl-1554691165

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Re: [MBZ] FYI eBay spring compressor

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

you'd think he'd have learned his lesson with rusty cars

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Poos is too busy with his rusty 140
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
> >
> > poos won't go with us  :(
> >
> >> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> Yes we should.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Sep 13, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > me, you and kleb need to go to sarasota on a fact finding mission.
> maybe
> >> > even kill leona helmsley's dog while there
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> That;s interesting, as I was looking at one of these a few weeks ago
> and
> >> >> noticed that "El Paso Tools" was in the same ZIP code as Baum
> (they're not
> >> >> far from me in Sarasota, FL).  I was wondering if this was a "back
> door"
> >> >> for Baum to sell in the consumer space.
> >> >>
> >> >> Sounds like it is
> >> >>
> >> >> Dan
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:19 PM, John Reames via Mercedes <
> >> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> I ordered a spring compressor from "El Paso Tools" (alkyracer101).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It arrived in a box sealed with "Baum Tools Unlimited"
> paper/filament
> >> >> tape.  Inside the box was a heavy-gauge blow-molded case also
> bearing "Baum
> >> >> Tools Unlimited" labels.  Inside the case, the instructions were
> packed in
> >> >> a ziploc bag; the instructions also agreed with the branding.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I believe that it's safe to presume that the tool is a Baum product,
> >> >> albeit at less than 1/4 of Baum's direct sales cost.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The tool itself appears to be of good quality; the center column
> uses a
> >> >> three lug design to hold the lower plate in place and prevent
> rotation, not
> >> >> unlike the Klann model, but I believe that the lugs are larger than
> the
> >> >> Klann ones.  The top end has a conical tapered section to hold the
> top
> >> >> plate in place and six lugs, not unlike a spline to prevent rotation.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The center column has ball bearing type thrust bearing.  This
> explains
> >> >> the note that use of power/impact tools would void the warranty,
> since the
> >> >> ball bearing would quickly develop brinelling.  The inner/lower
> "sleeves"
> >> >> are prevented from rotating by several square lugs that ride in
> grooves.
> >> >> The upper section has grooves that are cut all the way through, which
> >> >> permits re-lubrication of the screw (which has a trapezoidal type
> thread
> >> >> instead of the square or even triangular threads as are found on
> cheaper
> >> >> units).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The screw itself looks to have a black oxide or similar finish,
> with the
> >> >> rest of the center column looks like it has been parkerized with a
> black
> >> >> finish.  It looks like the top end of the tool is possibly a little
> larger
> >> >> in diameter than the Klann unit that I rented from Rusty a while back
> >> >> (based on my memory of how it felt in my hand)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The plates look to be a lighter grey parkerized finish, and are
> nice and
> >> >> thick; there are two different sizes of plates, just like the Klann.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Overall weight of the tool set in its case is close to 15 lbs.  I
> >> >> definitely feel safe in using it; I am almost tempted to replace a a
> >> >> cracked LCA and ball joints in a W210 despite the rain, but I am not
> going
> >> >> to for safety reasons.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'll let y'all know how well it works after I get those jobs done.
> I
> >> >> think it's a heck of a good buy at about $150 shipped!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -j.
> >> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] FYI eBay spring compressor

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Poos is too busy with his rusty 140

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
> 
> poos won't go with us  :(
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Yes we should.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Sep 13, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > me, you and kleb need to go to sarasota on a fact finding mission.  maybe
>> > even kill leona helmsley's dog while there
>> >
>> > On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> That;s interesting, as I was looking at one of these a few weeks ago and
>> >> noticed that "El Paso Tools" was in the same ZIP code as Baum (they're not
>> >> far from me in Sarasota, FL).  I was wondering if this was a "back door"
>> >> for Baum to sell in the consumer space.
>> >>
>> >> Sounds like it is
>> >>
>> >> Dan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:19 PM, John Reames via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I ordered a spring compressor from "El Paso Tools" (alkyracer101).
>> >>>
>> >>> It arrived in a box sealed with "Baum Tools Unlimited" paper/filament
>> >> tape.  Inside the box was a heavy-gauge blow-molded case also bearing 
>> >> "Baum
>> >> Tools Unlimited" labels.  Inside the case, the instructions were packed in
>> >> a ziploc bag; the instructions also agreed with the branding.
>> >>>
>> >>> I believe that it's safe to presume that the tool is a Baum product,
>> >> albeit at less than 1/4 of Baum's direct sales cost.
>> >>>
>> >>> The tool itself appears to be of good quality; the center column uses a
>> >> three lug design to hold the lower plate in place and prevent rotation, 
>> >> not
>> >> unlike the Klann model, but I believe that the lugs are larger than the
>> >> Klann ones.  The top end has a conical tapered section to hold the top
>> >> plate in place and six lugs, not unlike a spline to prevent rotation.
>> >>>
>> >>> The center column has ball bearing type thrust bearing.  This explains
>> >> the note that use of power/impact tools would void the warranty, since the
>> >> ball bearing would quickly develop brinelling.  The inner/lower "sleeves"
>> >> are prevented from rotating by several square lugs that ride in grooves.
>> >> The upper section has grooves that are cut all the way through, which
>> >> permits re-lubrication of the screw (which has a trapezoidal type thread
>> >> instead of the square or even triangular threads as are found on cheaper
>> >> units).
>> >>>
>> >>> The screw itself looks to have a black oxide or similar finish, with the
>> >> rest of the center column looks like it has been parkerized with a black
>> >> finish.  It looks like the top end of the tool is possibly a little larger
>> >> in diameter than the Klann unit that I rented from Rusty a while back
>> >> (based on my memory of how it felt in my hand)
>> >>>
>> >>> The plates look to be a lighter grey parkerized finish, and are nice and
>> >> thick; there are two different sizes of plates, just like the Klann.
>> >>>
>> >>> Overall weight of the tool set in its case is close to 15 lbs.  I
>> >> definitely feel safe in using it; I am almost tempted to replace a a
>> >> cracked LCA and ball joints in a W210 despite the rain, but I am not going
>> >> to for safety reasons.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'll let y'all know how well it works after I get those jobs done.  I
>> >> think it's a heck of a good buy at about $150 shipped!
>> >>>
>> >>> -j.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> John W Reames
>> >>> jream...@verizon.net
>> >>> Home: +14106646986
>> >>> Mobile: +14437915905
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Re: [MBZ] FYI eBay spring compressor

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

poos won't go with us  :(

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes we should.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 13, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > me, you and kleb need to go to sarasota on a fact finding mission.  maybe
> > even kill leona helmsley's dog while there
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> That;s interesting, as I was looking at one of these a few weeks ago and
> >> noticed that "El Paso Tools" was in the same ZIP code as Baum (they're
> not
> >> far from me in Sarasota, FL).  I was wondering if this was a "back door"
> >> for Baum to sell in the consumer space.
> >>
> >> Sounds like it is
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:19 PM, John Reames via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I ordered a spring compressor from "El Paso Tools" (alkyracer101).
> >>>
> >>> It arrived in a box sealed with "Baum Tools Unlimited" paper/filament
> >> tape.  Inside the box was a heavy-gauge blow-molded case also bearing
> "Baum
> >> Tools Unlimited" labels.  Inside the case, the instructions were packed
> in
> >> a ziploc bag; the instructions also agreed with the branding.
> >>>
> >>> I believe that it's safe to presume that the tool is a Baum product,
> >> albeit at less than 1/4 of Baum's direct sales cost.
> >>>
> >>> The tool itself appears to be of good quality; the center column uses a
> >> three lug design to hold the lower plate in place and prevent rotation,
> not
> >> unlike the Klann model, but I believe that the lugs are larger than the
> >> Klann ones.  The top end has a conical tapered section to hold the top
> >> plate in place and six lugs, not unlike a spline to prevent rotation.
> >>>
> >>> The center column has ball bearing type thrust bearing.  This explains
> >> the note that use of power/impact tools would void the warranty, since
> the
> >> ball bearing would quickly develop brinelling.  The inner/lower
> "sleeves"
> >> are prevented from rotating by several square lugs that ride in grooves.
> >> The upper section has grooves that are cut all the way through, which
> >> permits re-lubrication of the screw (which has a trapezoidal type thread
> >> instead of the square or even triangular threads as are found on cheaper
> >> units).
> >>>
> >>> The screw itself looks to have a black oxide or similar finish, with
> the
> >> rest of the center column looks like it has been parkerized with a black
> >> finish.  It looks like the top end of the tool is possibly a little
> larger
> >> in diameter than the Klann unit that I rented from Rusty a while back
> >> (based on my memory of how it felt in my hand)
> >>>
> >>> The plates look to be a lighter grey parkerized finish, and are nice
> and
> >> thick; there are two different sizes of plates, just like the Klann.
> >>>
> >>> Overall weight of the tool set in its case is close to 15 lbs.  I
> >> definitely feel safe in using it; I am almost tempted to replace a a
> >> cracked LCA and ball joints in a W210 despite the rain, but I am not
> going
> >> to for safety reasons.
> >>>
> >>> I'll let y'all know how well it works after I get those jobs done.  I
> >> think it's a heck of a good buy at about $150 shipped!
> >>>
> >>> -j.
> >>>
> >>> --
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Re: [MBZ] FYI eBay spring compressor

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes we should.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> me, you and kleb need to go to sarasota on a fact finding mission.  maybe
> even kill leona helmsley's dog while there
> 
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> That;s interesting, as I was looking at one of these a few weeks ago and
>> noticed that "El Paso Tools" was in the same ZIP code as Baum (they're not
>> far from me in Sarasota, FL).  I was wondering if this was a "back door"
>> for Baum to sell in the consumer space.
>> 
>> Sounds like it is
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:19 PM, John Reames via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I ordered a spring compressor from "El Paso Tools" (alkyracer101).
>>> 
>>> It arrived in a box sealed with "Baum Tools Unlimited" paper/filament
>> tape.  Inside the box was a heavy-gauge blow-molded case also bearing "Baum
>> Tools Unlimited" labels.  Inside the case, the instructions were packed in
>> a ziploc bag; the instructions also agreed with the branding.
>>> 
>>> I believe that it's safe to presume that the tool is a Baum product,
>> albeit at less than 1/4 of Baum's direct sales cost.
>>> 
>>> The tool itself appears to be of good quality; the center column uses a
>> three lug design to hold the lower plate in place and prevent rotation, not
>> unlike the Klann model, but I believe that the lugs are larger than the
>> Klann ones.  The top end has a conical tapered section to hold the top
>> plate in place and six lugs, not unlike a spline to prevent rotation.
>>> 
>>> The center column has ball bearing type thrust bearing.  This explains
>> the note that use of power/impact tools would void the warranty, since the
>> ball bearing would quickly develop brinelling.  The inner/lower "sleeves"
>> are prevented from rotating by several square lugs that ride in grooves.
>> The upper section has grooves that are cut all the way through, which
>> permits re-lubrication of the screw (which has a trapezoidal type thread
>> instead of the square or even triangular threads as are found on cheaper
>> units).
>>> 
>>> The screw itself looks to have a black oxide or similar finish, with the
>> rest of the center column looks like it has been parkerized with a black
>> finish.  It looks like the top end of the tool is possibly a little larger
>> in diameter than the Klann unit that I rented from Rusty a while back
>> (based on my memory of how it felt in my hand)
>>> 
>>> The plates look to be a lighter grey parkerized finish, and are nice and
>> thick; there are two different sizes of plates, just like the Klann.
>>> 
>>> Overall weight of the tool set in its case is close to 15 lbs.  I
>> definitely feel safe in using it; I am almost tempted to replace a a
>> cracked LCA and ball joints in a W210 despite the rain, but I am not going
>> to for safety reasons.
>>> 
>>> I'll let y'all know how well it works after I get those jobs done.  I
>> think it's a heck of a good buy at about $150 shipped!
>>> 
>>> -j.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> John W Reames
>>> jream...@verizon.net
>>> Home: +14106646986
>>> Mobile: +14437915905
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Re: [MBZ] FYI eBay spring compressor

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

me, you and kleb need to go to sarasota on a fact finding mission.  maybe
even kill leona helmsley's dog while there

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That;s interesting, as I was looking at one of these a few weeks ago and
> noticed that "El Paso Tools" was in the same ZIP code as Baum (they're not
> far from me in Sarasota, FL).  I was wondering if this was a "back door"
> for Baum to sell in the consumer space.
>
> Sounds like it is
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:19 PM, John Reames via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I ordered a spring compressor from "El Paso Tools" (alkyracer101).
> >
> > It arrived in a box sealed with "Baum Tools Unlimited" paper/filament
> tape.  Inside the box was a heavy-gauge blow-molded case also bearing "Baum
> Tools Unlimited" labels.  Inside the case, the instructions were packed in
> a ziploc bag; the instructions also agreed with the branding.
> >
> > I believe that it's safe to presume that the tool is a Baum product,
> albeit at less than 1/4 of Baum's direct sales cost.
> >
> > The tool itself appears to be of good quality; the center column uses a
> three lug design to hold the lower plate in place and prevent rotation, not
> unlike the Klann model, but I believe that the lugs are larger than the
> Klann ones.  The top end has a conical tapered section to hold the top
> plate in place and six lugs, not unlike a spline to prevent rotation.
> >
> > The center column has ball bearing type thrust bearing.  This explains
> the note that use of power/impact tools would void the warranty, since the
> ball bearing would quickly develop brinelling.  The inner/lower "sleeves"
> are prevented from rotating by several square lugs that ride in grooves.
> The upper section has grooves that are cut all the way through, which
> permits re-lubrication of the screw (which has a trapezoidal type thread
> instead of the square or even triangular threads as are found on cheaper
> units).
> >
> > The screw itself looks to have a black oxide or similar finish, with the
> rest of the center column looks like it has been parkerized with a black
> finish.  It looks like the top end of the tool is possibly a little larger
> in diameter than the Klann unit that I rented from Rusty a while back
> (based on my memory of how it felt in my hand)
> >
> > The plates look to be a lighter grey parkerized finish, and are nice and
> thick; there are two different sizes of plates, just like the Klann.
> >
> > Overall weight of the tool set in its case is close to 15 lbs.  I
> definitely feel safe in using it; I am almost tempted to replace a a
> cracked LCA and ball joints in a W210 despite the rain, but I am not going
> to for safety reasons.
> >
> > I'll let y'all know how well it works after I get those jobs done.  I
> think it's a heck of a good buy at about $150 shipped!
> >
> > -j.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] FYI eBay spring compressor

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That;s interesting, as I was looking at one of these a few weeks ago and 
noticed that "El Paso Tools" was in the same ZIP code as Baum (they're not far 
from me in Sarasota, FL).  I was wondering if this was a "back door" for Baum 
to sell in the consumer space.

Sounds like it is

Dan

  
On Sep 13, 2014, at 12:19 PM, John Reames via Mercedes  
wrote:

> I ordered a spring compressor from "El Paso Tools" (alkyracer101).
> 
> It arrived in a box sealed with "Baum Tools Unlimited" paper/filament tape.  
> Inside the box was a heavy-gauge blow-molded case also bearing "Baum Tools 
> Unlimited" labels.  Inside the case, the instructions were packed in a ziploc 
> bag; the instructions also agreed with the branding. 
> 
> I believe that it's safe to presume that the tool is a Baum product, albeit 
> at less than 1/4 of Baum's direct sales cost.
> 
> The tool itself appears to be of good quality; the center column uses a three 
> lug design to hold the lower plate in place and prevent rotation, not unlike 
> the Klann model, but I believe that the lugs are larger than the Klann ones.  
> The top end has a conical tapered section to hold the top plate in place and 
> six lugs, not unlike a spline to prevent rotation.
> 
> The center column has ball bearing type thrust bearing.  This explains the 
> note that use of power/impact tools would void the warranty, since the ball 
> bearing would quickly develop brinelling.  The inner/lower "sleeves" are 
> prevented from rotating by several square lugs that ride in grooves.  The 
> upper section has grooves that are cut all the way through, which permits 
> re-lubrication of the screw (which has a trapezoidal type thread instead of 
> the square or even triangular threads as are found on cheaper units).
> 
> The screw itself looks to have a black oxide or similar finish, with the rest 
> of the center column looks like it has been parkerized with a black finish.  
> It looks like the top end of the tool is possibly a little larger in diameter 
> than the Klann unit that I rented from Rusty a while back (based on my memory 
> of how it felt in my hand)
> 
> The plates look to be a lighter grey parkerized finish, and are nice and 
> thick; there are two different sizes of plates, just like the Klann.  
> 
> Overall weight of the tool set in its case is close to 15 lbs.  I definitely 
> feel safe in using it; I am almost tempted to replace a a cracked LCA and 
> ball joints in a W210 despite the rain, but I am not going to for safety 
> reasons.
> 
> I'll let y'all know how well it works after I get those jobs done.  I think 
> it's a heck of a good buy at about $150 shipped!
> 
> -j. 
> 
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[MBZ] FYI eBay spring compressor

[John Reames via Mercedes]

I ordered a spring compressor from "El Paso Tools" (alkyracer101).

It arrived in a box sealed with "Baum Tools Unlimited" paper/filament tape.  
Inside the box was a heavy-gauge blow-molded case also bearing "Baum Tools 
Unlimited" labels.  Inside the case, the instructions were packed in a ziploc 
bag; the instructions also agreed with the branding. 

I believe that it's safe to presume that the tool is a Baum product, albeit at 
less than 1/4 of Baum's direct sales cost.

The tool itself appears to be of good quality; the center column uses a three 
lug design to hold the lower plate in place and prevent rotation, not unlike 
the Klann model, but I believe that the lugs are larger than the Klann ones.  
The top end has a conical tapered section to hold the top plate in place and 
six lugs, not unlike a spline to prevent rotation.

The center column has ball bearing type thrust bearing.  This explains the note 
that use of power/impact tools would void the warranty, since the ball bearing 
would quickly develop brinelling.  The inner/lower "sleeves" are prevented from 
rotating by several square lugs that ride in grooves.  The upper section has 
grooves that are cut all the way through, which permits re-lubrication of the 
screw (which has a trapezoidal type thread instead of the square or even 
triangular threads as are found on cheaper units).

The screw itself looks to have a black oxide or similar finish, with the rest 
of the center column looks like it has been parkerized with a black finish.  It 
looks like the top end of the tool is possibly a little larger in diameter than 
the Klann unit that I rented from Rusty a while back (based on my memory of how 
it felt in my hand)

The plates look to be a lighter grey parkerized finish, and are nice and thick; 
there are two different sizes of plates, just like the Klann.  

Overall weight of the tool set in its case is close to 15 lbs.  I definitely 
feel safe in using it; I am almost tempted to replace a a cracked LCA and ball 
joints in a W210 despite the rain, but I am not going to for safety reasons.

I'll let y'all know how well it works after I get those jobs done.  I think 
it's a heck of a good buy at about $150 shipped!

-j. 

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Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Double-take

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Nice, 'cept the wheels; 'can't understand why so many people go crazy as 
Hell over wheels.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 6:51 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Today's CL Double-take



Whaaa??

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/4646334824.html

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Double-take

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/4646334824.html


Looks nicer than mine.  Except for the wheels.  On mine you
can see the heavy channel iron bolted to the bottom.  No,
it was not done in the Vaterland!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] N

[G Mann via Mercedes]

It is my considered personal opinion that if one of the other Amendments
were being given the same treatment as the Second Amendment, there would be
much public concern. Second Amendment, by the way, is not about guns, it is
about the personal God given right to self protection by any means.

I propose, in the interest of equality, the First Amendment be subject to
any limitation placed on Second Amendment. To wit... A ten word limit,
special government issued permit to speak, waiting period with background
check to insure that you are not an offending speaker, and if you are a
prohibited speaker prison for possession and use of speech. Further,
possession of rapid speech devices [teleprompters, news cameras, bull
horns, and newspaper printing devices] should require a special BATF tax
stamp which cost $2000 per serial numbered item [or more] and expensive and
exhaustive background checks taking over 6 months. Also, no such item made
after 1968 could be sold or transfer ownership.

All in favor say "Aye"... [voice vote, no need to put it on Congressional
record how you voted, election coming up, you know.

Favorite quote of Will Rodgers: "Thank God we don't get all the government
we pay for"

Respectfully,

Grant...

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 4:15 AM, LarryT via Mercedes 
wrote:

> ;-)  Good memory... he was typical of the people writing the regulations
> that will rule our lives,,,  Dude,  it would be laughable if it weren't
> so tragic.   (I assume everyone knows what we are talking about?)
>
> Larry
>
>
> On 9/12/2014 2:01 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> "Dude, that was like...2 years ago!"
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
>> Strasfogel via Mercedes
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:24 PM
>> To: Mitch Haley; Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] N
>>
>> That's ancient history.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>>  What anti-gun laws?

  Possession of handguns by non-government employees was totally banned
>>> in both District of Criminals and Chitcago for decades before recently
>>> being overturned by the Supreme Court. And by totally banned, I mean
>>> they considered it a felony to have one inside your home that you
>>> never took anywhere.
>>> OTOH, if you were an anti-gun newspaper writer, it was not only OK to
>>> have a handgun, you could shoot a kid for swimming in your pool
>>> without permission and not face charges. (Carl Rowan)
>>>
>>> Most people would consider that an "anti-gun law".
>>>
>>> Mitch.
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Double-take

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On September 13, 2014 at 7:37 AM "M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
>
>
> Them's some fugly rims alright.
>
> And yeah, there was a cottage industry in the Fatherland making 114 coupes
> into dropheads...
>

And did most of those dropheads have floppy flexible chassis?

BTW, what's the price, $12k or $15k?
Is it a coupe or a convertible?

Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Double-take

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Them's some fugly rims alright.

And yeah, there was a cottage industry in the Fatherland making 114 coupes
into dropheads...

-MMM-


On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Nice factory custom wheels.
> On Sep 13, 2014 6:51 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
>
> > Whaaa??
> >
> > http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/4646334824.html
> >
> > Dan
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] N

[LarryT via Mercedes]

;-)  Good memory... he was typical of the people writing the regulations 
that will rule our lives,,,  Dude,  it would be laughable if it 
weren't so tragic.   (I assume everyone knows what we are talking about?)


Larry


On 9/12/2014 2:01 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

"Dude, that was like...2 years ago!"

Greg

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Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:24 PM
To: Mitch Haley; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] N

That's ancient history.

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:


What anti-gun laws?


Possession of handguns by non-government employees was totally banned
in both District of Criminals and Chitcago for decades before recently
being overturned by the Supreme Court. And by totally banned, I mean
they considered it a felony to have one inside your home that you
never took anywhere.
OTOH, if you were an anti-gun newspaper writer, it was not only OK to
have a handgun, you could shoot a kid for swimming in your pool
without permission and not face charges. (Carl Rowan)

Most people would consider that an "anti-gun law".

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Double-take

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Nice factory custom wheels.
On Sep 13, 2014 6:51 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Whaaa??
>
> http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/4646334824.html
>
> Dan
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[MBZ] Today's CL Double-take

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Whaaa??

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/4646334824.html

Dan

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