Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 00:40:02 -0400 Allan Streib via Mercedes
 wrote:

> OK Don via Mercedes  writes:
> 
> > Which does result in a new thread in gmail . . .
> 
> But which does not in smarter email clients...

True.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

OK Don via Mercedes  writes:

> Which does result in a new thread in gmail . . .

But which does not in smarter email clients...

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding an alternator

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

The real key is whether or not it will produce full amperage -- old  
high resistance windings, worn off regulator brushes, or weak diodes  
will all test fine with an ohmeter, but the alternator will only  
product part of it's full load rating.


I've got to do the one in the TE, the battery won't stay charged in  
use.  May need a new starter, too -- it's about that age.


Pete

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Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding an alternator

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Finally pulled the alternator and took it apart to test the components.
The windings all test fine, and the diodes/rectifier test fine.  I found
that the voltage regulator contacts look a little dirty, so I'm going to
clean those up and put it all back together, then down to the local FLAPS
for operational testing.  Bearings are fine as well.

I did find this website which seems to have REALLY good prices on Bosch
parts for rebuilding starters and alternators.  I paid about $100 IIRC for
a starter solenoid, these guys sell the same thing for about 1/3 the price:

http://aspwholesale.com/index.php

Take care,
Max
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Re: [MBZ] Kent says SVO is junk

[ernest breakfield via Mercedes]

while i don't use W/SVO in our 617, i think it's only fair to point out 
that Kent neglects to mention many of the critical details associated 
with the alleged VO use on the injectors in question.

amongst the things we don't know are:
- if, or how well, the VO was filtered,
- what temp the fuel was heated to at the injectors,
- whether this was a single-tank system or dual-tank system (where 
start-up and shut-down are on BioD or #2), and
- what percentage of the time the vehicle in question was run 
around-town vs. on the highway.


my personal concerns about VO are more related to issues well 
*after* the injectors, but i think it's only prudent to not be making 
generalizations on the topic without knowing far more of the relevant 
detail.



cheers!
e


On 23/Sep/14 12:47, clay via Mercedes wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4E28hDgXCw&feature=em-subs_digest-vrecs

So, there is really an issue with using veggie oil, as it gums up the 
engine/injectors.  That explains how you shorten the life of a Benz by running 
crap fuel sources.


clay

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1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
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Re: [MBZ] Kent says SVO is junk

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

At least on IP replacement.

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Kent says SVO is junk

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Fine, as long as he keeps the manifolds bolted to the head - not an SVO
issue.

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yea well how is that working out for him?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 23, 2014, at 8:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Our very own Rick Hawkins has many thousands, if not 100's of thousands
> of
> > miles on SVO.
> >
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Kent says SVO is junk

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea well how is that working out for him?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2014, at 8:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Our very own Rick Hawkins has many thousands, if not 100's of thousands of
> miles on SVO.
> 
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> the veggie oil guys i knew all ended up with vehicular trouble.  no such
>> thing as free lunch, perhaps
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:47 PM, clay via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4E28hDgXCw&feature=em-subs_digest-vrecs
>>> 
>>> So, there is really an issue with using veggie oil, as it gums up the
>>> engine/injectors.  That explains how you shorten the life of a Benz by
>>> running crap fuel sources.
> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
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> 
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
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> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Kent says SVO is junk

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Our very own Rick Hawkins has many thousands, if not 100's of thousands of
miles on SVO.

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> the veggie oil guys i knew all ended up with vehicular trouble.  no such
> thing as free lunch, perhaps
>
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:47 PM, clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4E28hDgXCw&feature=em-subs_digest-vrecs
> >
> > So, there is really an issue with using veggie oil, as it gums up the
> > engine/injectors.  That explains how you shorten the life of a Benz by
> > running crap fuel sources.
> >
>
>
>


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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
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Re: [MBZ] Daimler

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

-- Jim wrote:
> The problem is they're
> not really making the things now that I'd want to buy used in
> the future.

That is totally true.  I agree entirely!!
ma

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Re: [MBZ] O/T: Chess

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Greg wrote:
> ...I played as a kid, but
> only (mostly) knew how to move the pieces.

Yeah, that's all I ever learned - how to move pieces.  I hear people
say that it is a real tough mind game.  Ya gotta think in 9
dimensions.
Thanks for chess.com link - maybe after I see it a bit it might be fun to try.
ma

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Re: [MBZ] Kent says SVO is junk

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Five passed.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

On Sep 23, 2014 6:51 PM, "Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > 55 Used Bosch Diesel Fuel Injectors Put to the Test - How Many Passed?
>
> > 
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Kent says SVO is junk

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

I could have told you that... We didn't need Kent!

On Tuesday, September 23, 2014, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> 55 Used Bosch Diesel Fuel Injectors Put to the Test - How Many Passed?
> 
>
> So, there is really an issue with using veggie oil, as it gums up the
> engine/injectors.  That explains how you shorten the life of a Benz by
> running crap fuel sources.
>
>
> clay
>
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 106, Issue 101

[MG via Mercedes]

Sorry it got buggered up should have been "does just as good a 
job" The reason the York does so good is because it doesn't 
circulate very much oil, less oil means better heat transfer. The 
Sanden is the same, has an oil sump and doesn't circulate much 
oil. Because of the way it's built 5 or 7 'wobble plate driven 
pistons vs crankshaft with two pistons for the York, the Sanden 
uses less power to do the same job. Or so it was explained to me.


Manfred

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[MBZ] new C63

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

and a wagon too!

http://jalopnik.com/2015-mercedes-benz-c63-amg-this-is-it-and-holy-crap-5-1638185389

--R


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Re: [MBZ] Kent says SVO is junk

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

the veggie oil guys i knew all ended up with vehicular trouble.  no such
thing as free lunch, perhaps

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:47 PM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4E28hDgXCw&feature=em-subs_digest-vrecs
>
> So, there is really an issue with using veggie oil, as it gums up the
> engine/injectors.  That explains how you shorten the life of a Benz by
> running crap fuel sources.
>
>
> clay
>
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[MBZ] Kent says SVO is junk

[clay via Mercedes]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4E28hDgXCw&feature=em-subs_digest-vrecs

So, there is really an issue with using veggie oil, as it gums up the 
engine/injectors.  That explains how you shorten the life of a Benz by running 
crap fuel sources.  


clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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[MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale & thermal underwear

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Craig, I sent photos of the thermal underwear labels coupla days ago.  Did 
ya get 'em?  'Any interest?


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "WILTON via Mercedes" 
To: ; "Mercedes Discussion List" 


Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


'Checked the stash last night - these are "no brand," (one label says 
"Southern Silk Mills, NC) US gov issue, extreme cold weather, 100% 
cotton, waffle weave; 7 pants, size 35-38, 6 shirts, size 38; several 
appear to have never been worn.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "archer75--- via Mercedes" 
To: "Curt Raymond" ; "Mercedes Discussion List" 


Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


i used to be comfortable with thermals down to about zero F, but here 
lately the heavy thermals aren't enough below 32F. Age probably has 
something to do with it. I'm thinking there might be even more effective 
thermals for arctic regions.

I'll see what I can out on the 'net since Wilton has his stored away.
Thanks,
Gerry

Curt Raymond wrote:

The brand of thermal underwear is less important than the weight and 
material. I've got 3 pairs, lightweight for when its not that cold and 
I need to move around. Heavier for when its colder and/or I'm moving 
less (like snowmobiling) and heavyweight for serious cold or just 
hanging around. The heavyweight are good for ice fishing where you do a 
lot of sitting and waiting unless I happen to meet somebody with a good 
ice shack that has a woodstove and maybe a little insulation.


Mine are all polypropylene which is miles ahead of cotton. They tell me 
silk is good but its spendy.


-Curt



 From: archer75--- via Mercedes 
To: WILTON ; Mercedes Discussion List 


Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale


For the past 20 years I've heated my shop with ten 100 watt filament 
bulbs (which also provide plenty of light) except for one very cold 
winter which required 12 bulbs.  Of course, I'm 'way north of Dan; 
about 90 miles or so and I like the shop hot; about 78F.

Gerry
P.S. Wilton, do you remember the brand of thermal underwear you 
mentioned; North Face, or something like that perhaps? The Patagonia 
brand I've been using was not warm enough the last time I went up north 
to North Carolina in the winter.  Grandson in Raleigh may be engaged to 
an Assyrian girl and there may be a wedding. (Still haven't been able 
to figure out where the Assyrians live in the Middle East.)


WILTON wrote:

> 'Reminds me, I think I have a drawer full of thermal underwear in a 
> chest in my bedroom not used since I left Greenland in Feb. '79; may 
> be an A-3 bag in the attic with some winter gear, too.  I really need 
> to lighten the load on the house foundation!  I did give my unused 
> bunny boots and mukluks to Danish friend the day before I left 
> Greenland, though.  'Had some of each of those for many years in 
> Nebraska, Michigan UP and Greenland, but I never did wear them.

>
> Wilton
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: G Mann

>   To: WILTON
>   Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 2:03 PM
>   Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
>
>
>   All in good jest Wilton.. ;))
>
>
>   For myself, one of the happy moments of my life was when I stood on 
> top of my moving trailer and did a discus throw of the snow shovel I 
> had carefully packed [along with all the other winter gear] out into 
> the desert at about Lourdsburg, NM, having come to the realization 
> that I would NEVER need it again in this lifetime.

>
>
>   Later, I unpacked the set of winter tires, down parkas and snow 
> boots, long thermals, and kept them in a back closet for about 5 
> yrs... then off to Goodwill.. yet another happy moment..

>
>
>   Buy a good shade hat, learn to live in the desert.. be happy. ;))) 
> Payments my new home here [back then] were almost exactly what it 
> cost per month to heat my midwest home in winter.. H.

>
>
>
>   On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:35 AM, WILTON  wrote:
>
> 'Know how to hurt a guy, don't ya?
>
> Wilt
>
> - Original Message - From: "G Mann via Mercedes" 
> 
> To: "Dan Penoff" ; "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> 

> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cub Cadet finale
>
>
>
>   What is "Snow"
>
>   From September through March, I do have to sweep the sunshine 
> off my
>   driveway every morning. But, it's only a courtesy thing we 
> neighbors do.

>
>   We did have a pretty harsh winter last year. My heater came on 
> for about an

>   hour one day in January
>
>
>   On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
> I find this statement troubling.  Having shoveled, blown and 
> plowed snow
> many times, I can never think of of time I could have 
> considered the

> conditions

Re: [MBZ] The Diesel Story

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGoQWNElahg

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> http://hackaday.com/2014/09/23/retrotechtacular-the-diesel-story
>
> --R
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[MBZ] The Diesel Story

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

http://hackaday.com/2014/09/23/retrotechtacular-the-diesel-story

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Re: [MBZ] Head of world chess says he was abducted by aliens and that chess is an aliens game

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

i only know my namesake, kasparov.  before then only bobby fisher.  i guess
i'm not a big fan

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:57 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Has anyone kept up with a chess tournament in St. Louis where a top player
> has demolished other top players in an amazing series of wins?
>
>
> http://www.theweekinchess.com/chessnews/events/2nd-sinquefield-cup-2014/caruana-wins-the-sinquefield-cup-with-two-rounds-to-spare-but-allows-carlsen-to-escape-with-a-draw
>
>
> http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/fabiano-caruana-is-doing-the-impossible-at-chesss-most-competitive-tournament/
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabiano_Caruana
>
> Matches where the world champ is defeated by another grandmaster are
> interesting, but this is unheard of.
> 
>
> Here is another interesting situation in current world chess:
>
> "Kirsan Ilyumzhinov – who controls world chess (FIDE) - claims to have
> been abducted by aliens.  He was re-elected in the battle for control of
> world chess."
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsan_Ilyumzhinov
>
> Ilyumzhinov has drawn world-wide attention for claiming personal contact
> with aliens, alleging that they took him on a mystical tour of the galaxy
> in their spaceship in 1997.[6][7] A Chess Notes feature article by Edward
> Winter provides a comprehensive collection of Ilyumzhinov's own words on
> his alleged encounters with aliens.
>
> " President Kirsan Ilyumzhinov tells of his invitation to an alien
> spaceship":
>
> ‘It happened on 17 September, I remember, in Moscow; it happened in my
> apartment.
>
> ... I was taken from my apartment in Moscow and taken to this
> spaceship, and we went to some star. After that I asked “Please bring me
> back” because the next day I should be back in Kalmykia, to Elista, and go
> to the Ukraine. They said, “No problem Kirsan you have time.”
>
> They are people like us. They have the same mind, the same vision. I
> talked with them. I understand we are not alone in this whole world. We are
> not unique.
>
> I am not a crazy man ... but after that when I gave the first
> interview to Radio Freedom in Russia five years ago thousands, not
> hundreds, thousands of people wrote me letters and called me on the phone
> saying “Kirsan, you are a politician and you aren’t afraid to speak about
> it.” From the United States every year, it is an official statistic, more
> than four thousand people are contacted in such a way. My theory is that
> chess comes from space. Why? Because the same rules, 64 squares, black and
> white, and the same rules in Japan, in China, in Qatar, in Mongolia, in
> Africa. The rules are the same. Why? I think it seems maybe it is from
> space."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsan_Ilyumzhinov
>
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11026510/Garry-Kasparov-loses-battle-for-control-of-world-chess-to-alien-abductee.html
>
> ...
> Gerrywho doesn't have time for chess anymore.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Head of world chess says he was abducted by aliens and that chess is an aliens game

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Wow!  Chess came from outer space!  Who knew?

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of archer75--- 
via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 9:58 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Head of world chess says he was abducted by aliens and that 
chess is an aliens game


Has anyone kept up with a chess tournament in St. Louis where a top player has 
demolished other top players in an amazing series of wins?

http://www.theweekinchess.com/chessnews/events/2nd-sinquefield-cup-2014/caruana-wins-the-sinquefield-cup-with-two-rounds-to-spare-but-allows-carlsen-to-escape-with-a-draw

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/fabiano-caruana-is-doing-the-impossible-at-chesss-most-competitive-tournament/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabiano_Caruana

Matches where the world champ is defeated by another grandmaster are 
interesting, but this is unheard of.


Here is another interesting situation in current world chess:

"Kirsan Ilyumzhinov – who controls world chess (FIDE) - claims to have been 
abducted by aliens.  He was re-elected in the battle for control of world 
chess."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsan_Ilyumzhinov

Ilyumzhinov has drawn world-wide attention for claiming personal contact with 
aliens, alleging that they took him on a mystical tour of the galaxy in their 
spaceship in 1997.[6][7] A Chess Notes feature article by Edward Winter 
provides a comprehensive collection of Ilyumzhinov's own words on his alleged 
encounters with aliens.

" President Kirsan Ilyumzhinov tells of his invitation to an alien spaceship":

‘It happened on 17 September, I remember, in Moscow; it happened in my 
apartment.

... I was taken from my apartment in Moscow and taken to this spaceship, 
and we went to some star. After that I asked “Please bring me back” because the 
next day I should be back in Kalmykia, to Elista, and go to the Ukraine. They 
said, “No problem Kirsan you have time.”

They are people like us. They have the same mind, the same vision. I talked 
with them. I understand we are not alone in this whole world. We are not unique.

I am not a crazy man ... but after that when I gave the first interview to 
Radio Freedom in Russia five years ago thousands, not hundreds, thousands of 
people wrote me letters and called me on the phone saying “Kirsan, you are a 
politician and you aren’t afraid to speak about it.” From the United States 
every year, it is an official statistic, more than four thousand people are 
contacted in such a way. My theory is that chess comes from space. Why? Because 
the same rules, 64 squares, black and white, and the same rules in Japan, in 
China, in Qatar, in Mongolia, in Africa. The rules are the same. Why? I think 
it seems maybe it is from space."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsan_Ilyumzhinov 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11026510/Garry-Kasparov-loses-battle-for-control-of-world-chess-to-alien-abductee.html

...
Gerrywho doesn't have time for chess anymore.



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Re: [MBZ] O/T Chess

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Dan:

It sounds like you would be closer to my class of player than Tom (yes, very
impressive story!).  Let me know if you would like to try a game.  It is
rigorous exercise for the mind!

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 7:36 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Chess

That's pretty cool, Tom.  While no more than a very casual chess player who
hasn't played since high school, I enjoyed hearing the story.

Thanks,

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 23, 2014, at 9:46 AM, toms cat1 via Mercedes
 wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Greg,
> 
> I have played a lot of chess over the years, but I just don't have time
anymore.  I do love the game, but I hate 2 dimensional  computer chess.  I
much prefer playing over the board against a live opponent.   I will not
play online.  Years ago, I played at a local club, regional tournaments,
etc, and I had an official USCF Rating, long since lapsed from disuse
however.:)
> 
> My claim to fame, however, is that in March 1964, I had the honor of being
crushed in a simultaneous exhibition match in Westerly RI by the 6 Time
Reigning US Champion, a fella named Bobby Fischer.  Eight years later he
became World Champion.  
> 
> I recorded the game in my Chess Scorebook at the time.  It is funny to see
you mention this today, because I have just corresponded 3 days ago with
International Master John Donaldson, who is currently writing another book
on Bobby Fischer.  He previously published a book (among others) called " A
Legend on the Road:  Bobby Fischer's 1964 Simultaneous Exhibition Tour".
The Westerly exhibition is discussed in the book, including a game (Stanley
King) that Bobby lost there.  He won 44 games, drew 2 and lost 1.  When
Stanley King died 38 years later (2002), his obituary noted that he beat
Bobby Fischer that day in Westerly! 
> 
> :)
> 
> Donaldson is going to include my game  in his new book.  I should mention
that, as I reviewed the game, I found that a number of my moves were
cringe-worthy.  :)  But it is what it is, and I was young at the time.  
> 
> And really, how many guys do you know that can say that they got crushed
by Bobby Fischer!  
> 
> :)
> 
> He was actually a quiet, shy and very polite 21 year old throughout the
afternoon.  And it made me a die-hard Fischer fan, although his later years
were very sad and troubling.
> 
> Enjoy the game!  I still do the daily chess puzzle religiously in the
local paper, btw, but that is about it.  
> 
> Tom Schuch
> Connecticut

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[MBZ] Head of world chess says he was abducted by aliens and that chess is an aliens game

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Has anyone kept up with a chess tournament in St. Louis where a top player has 
demolished other top players in an amazing series of wins?

http://www.theweekinchess.com/chessnews/events/2nd-sinquefield-cup-2014/caruana-wins-the-sinquefield-cup-with-two-rounds-to-spare-but-allows-carlsen-to-escape-with-a-draw

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/fabiano-caruana-is-doing-the-impossible-at-chesss-most-competitive-tournament/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabiano_Caruana

Matches where the world champ is defeated by another grandmaster are 
interesting, but this is unheard of.


Here is another interesting situation in current world chess:

"Kirsan Ilyumzhinov – who controls world chess (FIDE) - claims to have been 
abducted by aliens.  He was re-elected in the battle for control of world 
chess."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsan_Ilyumzhinov

Ilyumzhinov has drawn world-wide attention for claiming personal contact with 
aliens, alleging that they took him on a mystical tour of the galaxy in their 
spaceship in 1997.[6][7] A Chess Notes feature article by Edward Winter 
provides a comprehensive collection of Ilyumzhinov's own words on his alleged 
encounters with aliens.

" President Kirsan Ilyumzhinov tells of his invitation to an alien spaceship":

‘It happened on 17 September, I remember, in Moscow; it happened in my 
apartment.

... I was taken from my apartment in Moscow and taken to this spaceship, 
and we went to some star. After that I asked “Please bring me back” because the 
next day I should be back in Kalmykia, to Elista, and go to the Ukraine. They 
said, “No problem Kirsan you have time.”

They are people like us. They have the same mind, the same vision. I talked 
with them. I understand we are not alone in this whole world. We are not unique.

I am not a crazy man ... but after that when I gave the first interview to 
Radio Freedom in Russia five years ago thousands, not hundreds, thousands of 
people wrote me letters and called me on the phone saying “Kirsan, you are a 
politician and you aren’t afraid to speak about it.” From the United States 
every year, it is an official statistic, more than four thousand people are 
contacted in such a way. My theory is that chess comes from space. Why? Because 
the same rules, 64 squares, black and white, and the same rules in Japan, in 
China, in Qatar, in Mongolia, in Africa. The rules are the same. Why? I think 
it seems maybe it is from space."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsan_Ilyumzhinov 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11026510/Garry-Kasparov-loses-battle-for-control-of-world-chess-to-alien-abductee.html

...
Gerrywho doesn't have time for chess anymore.



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Re: [MBZ] Daimler

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

i (for one) wish buying a simple car was an option here. what would it 
cost? would a Mercedes built today last 25, 30, 35 years?

consider that the 300D sold for upwards of $30K in the 1980s...


I'd not be in the market for a new one.  The problem is they're
not really making the things now that I'd want to buy used in
the future.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Daimler

[ernest breakfield via Mercedes]

i (for one) wish buying a simple car was an option here. what would it 
cost? would a Mercedes built today last 25, 30, 35 years?

consider that the 300D sold for upwards of $30K in the 1980s...


cheers!
e


On 22/Sep/14 18:48, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:


They could do it with the E250 and I would not complain one bit. ?


Are you suggesting that if MBUSA would let you buy a taxi grade E250 
diesel you'd consider it?


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] O/T Chess

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That's pretty cool, Tom.  While no more than a very casual chess player who 
hasn't played since high school, I enjoyed hearing the story.

Thanks,

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 23, 2014, at 9:46 AM, toms cat1 via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Greg,
> 
> I have played a lot of chess over the years, but I just don't have time 
> anymore.  I do love the game, but I hate 2 dimensional  computer chess.  I 
> much prefer playing over the board against a live opponent.   I will not play 
> online.  Years ago, I played at a local club, regional tournaments, etc, and 
> I had an official USCF Rating, long since lapsed from disuse however.:)
> 
> My claim to fame, however, is that in March 1964, I had the honor of being 
> crushed in a simultaneous exhibition match in Westerly RI by the 6 Time 
> Reigning US Champion, a fella named Bobby Fischer.  Eight years later he 
> became World Champion.  
> 
> I recorded the game in my Chess Scorebook at the time.  It is funny to see 
> you mention this today, because I have just corresponded 3 days ago with 
> International Master John Donaldson, who is currently writing another book on 
> Bobby Fischer.  He previously published a book (among others) called " A 
> Legend on the Road:  Bobby Fischer's 1964 Simultaneous Exhibition Tour".   
> The Westerly exhibition is discussed in the book, including a game (Stanley 
> King) that Bobby lost there.  He won 44 games, drew 2 and lost 1.  When 
> Stanley King died 38 years later (2002), his obituary noted that he beat 
> Bobby Fischer that day in Westerly! 
> 
> :)
> 
> Donaldson is going to include my game  in his new book.  I should mention 
> that, as I reviewed the game, I found that a number of my moves were 
> cringe-worthy.  :)  But it is what it is, and I was young at the time.  
> 
> And really, how many guys do you know that can say that they got crushed by 
> Bobby Fischer!  
> 
> :)
> 
> He was actually a quiet, shy and very polite 21 year old throughout the 
> afternoon.  And it made me a die-hard Fischer fan, although his later years 
> were very sad and troubling.
> 
> Enjoy the game!  I still do the daily chess puzzle religiously in the local 
> paper, btw, but that is about it.  
> 
> Tom Schuch
> Connecticut

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Re: [MBZ] O/T Chess

[toms cat1 via Mercedes]

 
 
Hi Greg,
 
I have played a lot of chess over the years, but I just don't have time 
anymore.  I do love the game, but I hate 2 dimensional  computer chess.  I much 
prefer playing over the board against a live opponent.   I will not play 
online.  Years ago, I played at a local club, regional tournaments, etc, and I 
had an official USCF Rating, long since lapsed from disuse however.:)
 
My claim to fame, however, is that in March 1964, I had the honor of being 
crushed in a simultaneous exhibition match in Westerly RI by the 6 Time 
Reigning US Champion, a fella named Bobby Fischer.  Eight years later he became 
World Champion.  
 
I recorded the game in my Chess Scorebook at the time.  It is funny to see you 
mention this today, because I have just corresponded 3 days ago with 
International Master John Donaldson, who is currently writing another book on 
Bobby Fischer.  He previously published a book (among others) called " A Legend 
on the Road:  Bobby Fischer's 1964 Simultaneous Exhibition Tour".   The 
Westerly exhibition is discussed in the book, including a game (Stanley King) 
that Bobby lost there.  He won 44 games, drew 2 and lost 1.  When Stanley King 
died 38 years later (2002), his obituary noted that he beat Bobby Fischer that 
day in Westerly! 
 
:)
 
Donaldson is going to include my game  in his new book.  I should mention that, 
as I reviewed the game, I found that a number of my moves were 
cringe-worthy.  :)  But it is what it is, and I was young at the time.  
 
And really, how many guys do you know that can say that they got crushed by 
Bobby Fischer!  
 
:)
 
He was actually a quiet, shy and very polite 21 year old throughout the 
afternoon.  And it made me a die-hard Fischer fan, although his later years 
were very sad and troubling.
 
Enjoy the game!  I still do the daily chess puzzle religiously in the local 
paper, btw, but that is about it.  
 
Tom Schuch
Connecticut
 
 
 
Hi:
Is there anyone on the list who likes to play chess?  I played as a kid, but
only (mostly) knew how to move the pieces.  I am really enjoying it!  I am
currently playing one of my sons (the one who owns a Mercedes) and one of
his friends on chess.com.  I have played a few games already, and am
learning a lot.  Let me know.  Perhaps we can play.

Greg



  
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