Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 20:46:45 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Check it out:
> 
> http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/wait-the-b-36-peacemaker-flew-with-tank-tracks-for-lan-1638780957

Yup. Also interesting are the comments:

A wingspan of 230 feet, six piston engines and later four
additional turbojet engines, a 278,000lb empty weight, a max bomb
load of close to 80,000lbs and intercontinental range, the B-36
was truly a remarkable giant of the skies.

Very few airfields in the US during the late 1940s were long and
fortified enough to handle the XB-36's takeoff run and original
main gear that featured one massive tire and that exerted 156
pounds per square inch.

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--AU4cgkAT--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/hc22dgpzlycvnwls8mpf.jpg

This, and the fact that it would be useful to forward deploy and
disperse B-36s during a nuclear exchange, meant that a new
landing gear system needed to be devised.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap IR Camera

2014-09-26 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 18:44:54 -0400
Dan Penoff via Mercedes  wrote:

> When I was in the generator business we had a separate department that did 
> thermal imaging of electrical systems.
> 
> When you get into big distribution gear, the conductors are large copper 
> bars.  These are bolted together for both mechanical and electrical 
> connections.  If the bolts become loose, which can happen due to thermal 
> stress, the resistance of the connections can become high enough to cause 
> heating and in a worst case scenario, a fire.  Distribution gear would be 
> scanned every few years or spot checks done at the joints to look for 
> localized heating, when if found, would trigger a full blown scan.
> 
> This department used a very expensive ($50k+) thermal imaging camera to scan 
> the bars under load and record the findings.
> 
> While we didn't get to play with it, the operators would often have it out of 
> the case and set up on a large tripod in the office, ostensibly to 
> "calibrate" it.  What they didn't mention was that they enjoyed watching 
> employees walk by it so they could scan you
> 
> Dan

Female employees "in heat"?  (The temperature of "certain parts" of a females 
body goes up when they are ovulating (and passionate).
I would guess an instrument that cost $50K would be sensitive enough to 
determine that.

Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines

2014-09-26 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
There are simple "pliers" for bending brake lines fairly cheap: ($25.xx), and 
more complex ones for twice as much.
http://www.eastwood.com/shop-equipment/brake-tools.html?SRCCODE=MN140060
or Google: "brake line tubing bender" for a list of  brake tool suppliers.
Gerry

On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 17:46:33 -0400
Dan Penoff wrote:
> The replacement lines come straight, not bent.  Been this way for years.  You 
> have to use the old line as a template and bend the new one to match. 
> BTDT some years back.
> Dan

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap IR Camera

2014-09-26 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Near-IR used to be accomplished with special film, and black-appearing
> filters.  (I have one.)
> -- Jim
>

I still have a half dozen or so rolls of IR 35mm film in the freezer. We
used a #25 filter with it - good enough for playing with. I also have a
Kodak UV passing filter that looks black to the eye. You have to use old
lenses without a UV filter in the cement between elements. We pulled the
yellow plastic covers off of a strobe to get UV for the photos. The focal
point is different than visible light, so we focused the lens, looked at
the distance to the IR mark on the lens barrel, and turned the ring about
that amount the other way. Tri-X did a good job with the UV.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap IR Camera

2014-09-26 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

Can't you just disassemble a digital camera and take the IR filter out?


No.  IR covers a lot of ground, basically from DC to (near) daylight!
The silicon sensors in video/still cameras are sensitive to near-IR.
Far-IR, heat, requires a whole 'nother level of involvement!

Near-IR used to be accomplished with special film, and black-appearing
filters.  (I have one.)  Thermal imaging, when I last played with it,
was a camcorder-ey device with an internal liquid-helium cooling system
(or so they said) like an air conditioner, and ZnS lenses.  Looked like
gray plastic, not glass.  Price was on the order of 1/2 year's salary
for one of the engineers.  Was pretty cool to put your hand against
a heating duct and then see the residual image fade out over a minute
or so after you removed it.  The display used false-color to show heat
levels.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Check it out:

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/wait-the-b-36-peacemaker-flew-with-tank-tracks-for-lan-1638780957

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] New fan in 83 300TD

2014-09-26 Thread MG via Mercedes
Yes there are. Unfortunately they are all bad. The black death 
takes almost all of these way before the car dies.


There are quite a few different cars that you can get these from. 
Just look on the dash of all the late 80's to early 90's. If you 
want to put one into a w123, try to get one of the shorter ones.


It took a bit to get it to fit. I had to break out two of the 
plastic barrels that the screws go into on an old instrument 
panel housing. So when you take the unit out of the junker you 
might want to consider taking two barrels from it's panel housing.


The screws are to the barrels in place on the temp gauge and then 
the barrels are flattened on the top so the whole thing will 
slide into the space in your panel housing. When everything fits 
put a bit of glue to hold the barrel to your housing and you are 
good to go. Make sure you don't glue the screws or gauge to the 
barrels or you might not get it apart later.


Manfred


Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 16:02:49 -0600
From: Craig 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New fan in 83 300TD


> > BTW just got back from the junk yard. Got 2 of the LCD outside
> > temp gauges and senders. One will go into the TD and the other
> > into my daughter's 81 SD.

Are there any more there?



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap IR Camera

2014-09-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
When I was in the generator business we had a separate department that did 
thermal imaging of electrical systems.

When you get into big distribution gear, the conductors are large copper bars.  
These are bolted together for both mechanical and electrical connections.  If 
the bolts become loose, which can happen due to thermal stress, the resistance 
of the connections can become high enough to cause heating and in a worst case 
scenario, a fire.  Distribution gear would be scanned every few years or spot 
checks done at the joints to look for localized heating, when if found, would 
trigger a full blown scan.

This department used a very expensive ($50k+) thermal imaging camera to scan 
the bars under load and record the findings.

While we didn't get to play with it, the operators would often have it out of 
the case and set up on a large tripod in the office, ostensibly to "calibrate" 
it.  What they didn't mention was that they enjoyed watching employees walk by 
it so they could scan you

Dan

On Sep 26, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 12:50:36 -0400 Tim Crone  wrote:
> 
>> I should have mentioned that the listed module was set up for thermal
>> imaging, not IR plus visible.  You can get camera elements with the IR
>> filter deleted for the Raspberry Pi for ~$25.
> 
> While working at the Lab, I was asked to do a project that required the
> use of a thermal imaging camera that had a refrigerant system with a
> small compressor in it. It could image things at room temperature.
> 
> To make sure I knew how to use it (and wouldn't flub things up when doing
> the project), I brought it home to learn. It was interesting looking at
> our house through it during the winter time.
> 
> That camera cost about three orders of magnitude more than the Raspberry
> Pi camera Tim mentioned above.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Wheels

2014-09-26 Thread MG via Mercedes

Mitch Haley wrote:

MG via Mercedes wrote:
Does anyone have a set of Mial weave pattern wheels in 7x 14 or 15 for 
a w123? I saw some in a picture one either a white or blue care once 
and they looked kind of nice.


Mial or Rial?

Mitch.

The way I saw them it said Rial. Look kind of like wire wheels 
just in aluminum. Supposedly made in Germany originally.


Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines

2014-09-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Correct. It is the correct length for the application, but not bent.  The shop 
techs have to bend the line to match the old one using a tubing bender.

Can you imagine what a nightmare it would be to ship and stock these lines if 
they were all bent to shape?

Oy!

Dan
 
On Sep 26, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> So you are saying the tubing is application-specific with flares on both
> ends.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] New fan in 83 300TD

2014-09-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 18:09:49 -0400 MG via Mercedes
 wrote:

> BTW just got back from the junk yard. Got 2 of the LCD outside 
> temp gauges and senders. One will go into the TD and the other 
> into my daughter's 81 SD.

Are there any more there?


> Also two rear window winder units that will be converted to use in the
> 83 TD. No more bent window winder plates for me. :-)

That sounds like a good plan!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap IR Camera

2014-09-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 12:50:36 -0400 Tim Crone  wrote:

> I should have mentioned that the listed module was set up for thermal
> imaging, not IR plus visible.  You can get camera elements with the IR
> filter deleted for the Raspberry Pi for ~$25.

While working at the Lab, I was asked to do a project that required the
use of a thermal imaging camera that had a refrigerant system with a
small compressor in it. It could image things at room temperature.

To make sure I knew how to use it (and wouldn't flub things up when doing
the project), I brought it home to learn. It was interesting looking at
our house through it during the winter time.

That camera cost about three orders of magnitude more than the Raspberry
Pi camera Tim mentioned above.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines

2014-09-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 17:46:33 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The replacement lines come straight, not bent.  Been this way for
> years.  You have to use the old line as a template and bend the new one
> to match.
> 
> > If the tubing already has flares on both ends, the spring type won't
> > work. That would depend upon whether MB sells application-specific
> > brake lines, or just general-usage bulk line.

So you are saying the tubing is application-specific with flares on both
ends.


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines

2014-09-26 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Brake tube bending tools are cheap.. and they make such nice radius bends..
why not use them?

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> Do you end up needing any tools to bend them or are they soft enough to
> bend by hand without crushing?
>
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> >
> > Always been that way.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
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> >> On Sep 26, 2014, at 2:54 PM, John Reames via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> FYI, when you order them they are not bent in the proper shapes; you
> have to do that yourself!
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines

2014-09-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The replacement lines come straight, not bent.  Been this way for years.  You 
have to use the old line as a template and bend the new one to match.

BTDT some years back.

Dan
 
On Sep 26, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 16:43:36 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I haven't done this job but I think you want to use a tool so you don't
>> kink the line.  I've seen two kinds,  One is like a conduit bender
>> where you bend the line around a circular form.  The other is like a
>> spring that fits over the tube to prevent kinking.  I can't recommend
>> which is best.
> 
> If the tubing already has flares on both ends, the spring type won't work.
> That would depend upon whether MB sells application-specific brake lines,
> or just general-usage bulk line.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines

2014-09-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 16:43:36 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I haven't done this job but I think you want to use a tool so you don't
> kink the line.  I've seen two kinds,  One is like a conduit bender
> where you bend the line around a circular form.  The other is like a
> spring that fits over the tube to prevent kinking.  I can't recommend
> which is best.

If the tubing already has flares on both ends, the spring type won't work.
That would depend upon whether MB sells application-specific brake lines,
or just general-usage bulk line.


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines

2014-09-26 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
Yeah, there are a couple of wicked sharp bends in the existing lines :/ (maybe 
1/4 internal radius...)

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> On Sep 26, 2014, at 17:05, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You can't use the spring type benders on these because they won't fit over 
> the fittings.
> 
> I have a little conduit type bender I bought at an auto parts store years ago 
> that worked quite well once you got the hang of it.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I haven't done this job but I think you want to use a tool so you don't kink
>> the line.  I've seen two kinds,  One is like a conduit bender where you bend
>> the line around a circular form.  The other is like a spring that fits over
>> the tube to prevent kinking.  I can't recommend which is best.
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>>> John Reames via Mercedes
>>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 3:57 PM
>>> To: Dan Penoff; Mercedes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines
>>> 
>>> Do you end up needing any tools to bend them or are they soft enough to
>>> bend by hand without crushing?
>>> 
>>> 
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> On Sep 26, 2014, at 15:17, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
  wrote:
 
 Always been that way.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On Sep 26, 2014, at 2:54 PM, John Reames via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
> 
> FYI, when you order them they are not bent in the proper shapes; you
>>> have to do that yourself!
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 106, Issue 112

2014-09-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Picky, picky, picky.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Addison Thompson via Mercedes <
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> It looks like it was in a fire!
> AT
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>
> From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
> Subject: [MBZ] A little sun damage
> Date: September 25, 2014 5:35:58 PM PDT
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> Date: September 25, 2014 5:43:06 PM PDT
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines

2014-09-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You can't use the spring type benders on these because they won't fit over the 
fittings.

I have a little conduit type bender I bought at an auto parts store years ago 
that worked quite well once you got the hang of it.

Dan

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> I haven't done this job but I think you want to use a tool so you don't kink
> the line.  I've seen two kinds,  One is like a conduit bender where you bend
> the line around a circular form.  The other is like a spring that fits over
> the tube to prevent kinking.  I can't recommend which is best.
> 
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>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines
>> 
>> Do you end up needing any tools to bend them or are they soft enough to
>> bend by hand without crushing?
>> 
>> 
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 On Sep 26, 2014, at 15:17, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
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>>> Always been that way.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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 On Sep 26, 2014, at 2:54 PM, John Reames via Mercedes
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 FYI, when you order them they are not bent in the proper shapes; you
>> have to do that yourself!
 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines

2014-09-26 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
If the line has fittings on the ends, I doubt that the spring type tool will
fit over the fittings.  But I agree that you need something to avoid kinks.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines

I haven't done this job but I think you want to use a tool so you don't kink
the line.  I've seen two kinds,  One is like a conduit bender where you bend
the line around a circular form.  The other is like a spring that fits over
the tube to prevent kinking.  I can't recommend which is best.

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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines
> 
> Do you end up needing any tools to bend them or are they soft enough 
> to bend by hand without crushing?
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines

2014-09-26 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I haven't done this job but I think you want to use a tool so you don't kink
the line.  I've seen two kinds,  One is like a conduit bender where you bend
the line around a circular form.  The other is like a spring that fits over
the tube to prevent kinking.  I can't recommend which is best.

> -Original Message-
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> John Reames via Mercedes
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines
> 
> Do you end up needing any tools to bend them or are they soft enough to
> bend by hand without crushing?
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines

2014-09-26 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
Do you end up needing any tools to bend them or are they soft enough to bend by 
hand without crushing?



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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines

2014-09-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Always been that way.

Dan

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[MBZ] Mercedes brake lines

2014-09-26 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
FYI, when you order them they are not bent in the proper shapes; you have to do 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 106, Issue 112

2014-09-26 Thread Addison Thompson via Mercedes
It looks like it was in a fire!
AT


From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
Subject: [MBZ] A little sun damage
Date: September 25, 2014 5:35:58 PM PDT
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1987 Mercedes 560 SL Convertible
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From: Meade Dillon 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] A little sun damage
Date: September 25, 2014 5:43:06 PM PDT
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Yep, thermonuclear radiation will do that...

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap IR Camera

2014-09-26 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
We had a really nice Sony digicam that had a "night vision" feature 
which was really cool for night shots.  My wife had bought it through a 
past job, we had to give it up when she left and I'm sure it got thrown 
in some bin somewhere.  I was thinking I should try to find one on ebay 
for cheap.  I have an old Sony camcorder with night vision that the tape 
part does not work (I found it in the recycle bin) but it works fine as 
a computer cam.


--R


On 9/26/14 1:45 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

IIRC there are some digital cameras that never had an IR filter.  I recall
using one of mine to check if one of my IR remotes was working properly.
But I think that an actual IR camera has different sensors.

Greg

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Can't you just disassemble a digital camera and take the IR filter out?

Dan

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On Sep 25, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Tim Crone via Mercedes

 wrote:

I read this review of a neat little 206x156 IR camera, yours for only
$199.  This is rather shockingly cheaper than I've seen such a gadget
before, but according to the review it works reasonably.  He has a
nice video of his car (appears to be an Infiniti, hence OT) warming up.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/09/25/hands-on-with-the-199-seek-the
rmal-smartphone-infrared-camera-yes-really-actually-this-is-amazing/

Unfortunately I have no use for it at the moment, but it's nice to
know that such things are available.  Maybe I'll develop a possible
exhaust leak someday soon... :)

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap IR Camera

2014-09-26 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
IIRC there are some digital cameras that never had an IR filter.  I recall
using one of mine to check if one of my IR remotes was working properly.
But I think that an actual IR camera has different sensors.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap IR Camera

Can't you just disassemble a digital camera and take the IR filter out?

Dan

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> On Sep 25, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Tim Crone via Mercedes
 wrote:
> 
> I read this review of a neat little 206x156 IR camera, yours for only 
> $199.  This is rather shockingly cheaper than I've seen such a gadget 
> before, but according to the review it works reasonably.  He has a 
> nice video of his car (appears to be an Infiniti, hence OT) warming up.
> 
> http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/09/25/hands-on-with-the-199-seek-the
> rmal-smartphone-infrared-camera-yes-really-actually-this-is-amazing/
> 
> Unfortunately I have no use for it at the moment, but it's nice to 
> know that such things are available.  Maybe I'll develop a possible 
> exhaust leak someday soon... :)
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap IR Camera

2014-09-26 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:29:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Can't you just disassemble a digital camera and take the IR filter out?
>
> \So, if you can get the IR filter out of a digital camera, that should
> work as well.
>

I should have mentioned that the listed module was set up for thermal
imaging, not IR plus visible.  You can get camera elements with the IR
filter deleted for the Raspberry Pi for ~$25.

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap IR Camera

2014-09-26 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:29:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Can't you just disassemble a digital camera and take the IR filter out?

When I was in graduate school, we were working with IR lasers and could
not see the beam. One of the other students brought in a child's toy
video camera, removed the IR filter, and had a real-time, live
presentation of where the IR beam was going. It worked very well.

So, if you can get the IR filter out of a digital camera, that should
work as well.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] "Stop it Wayne, you're scaring me!"

2014-09-26 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

http://bringatrailer.com/2014/09/25/muscle-hatch-4015-speed-1978-amc-pacer/


Should have put custom front springs in it.
Cut coils on Michigan roads will shake your teeth out.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap IR Camera

2014-09-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Can't you just disassemble a digital camera and take the IR filter out?

Dan

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> On Sep 25, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Tim Crone via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I read this review of a neat little 206x156 IR camera, yours for only
> $199.  This is rather shockingly cheaper than I've seen such a gadget
> before, but according to the review it works reasonably.  He has a nice
> video of his car (appears to be an Infiniti, hence OT) warming up.
> 
> http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/09/25/hands-on-with-the-199-seek-thermal-smartphone-infrared-camera-yes-really-actually-this-is-amazing/
> 
> Unfortunately I have no use for it at the moment, but it's nice to know
> that such things are available.  Maybe I'll develop a possible exhaust leak
> someday soon... :)
> 
> Best,
> Tim
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Re: [MBZ] "Stop it Wayne, you're scaring me!"

2014-09-26 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Party on, Garth!

I like it.  Just the thing to go pick up some Cream of Sum Yun Guy soup.

--R


On 9/26/14 9:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

http://bringatrailer.com/2014/09/25/muscle-hatch-4015-speed-1978-amc-pacer/

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[MBZ] "Stop it Wayne, you're scaring me!"

2014-09-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
http://bringatrailer.com/2014/09/25/muscle-hatch-4015-speed-1978-amc-pacer/

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Re: [MBZ] Wheels

2014-09-26 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

MG via Mercedes wrote:
Does anyone have a set of Mial weave pattern wheels in 7x 14 or 15 for a 
w123? I saw some in a picture one either a white or blue care once and 
they looked kind of nice.


Mial or Rial?

Mitch.

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[MBZ] Wheels

2014-09-26 Thread MG via Mercedes
Does anyone have a set of Mial weave pattern wheels in 7x 14 or 
15 for a w123? I saw some in a picture one either a white or blue 
care once and they looked kind of nice.


Manfred

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