Re: [MBZ] Finally, something I would like to have in an electric car

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I have no answers at the moment.. Come Monday.. expect I may contact the
web site and see if it's just a concept or actually certified for flight
and for sale..

If I grasp the design details correctly.. it has an on board fuel engine
that runs generator which drives electric motors.. actually, not a bad
concept over helicopter design for example, which uses shafts, gearboxes,
and complex couplings... in concept at least.. in actual application...
lots of unanswered questions..

To fly it needs FAA certification.. That is no small feat..

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 7:49 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
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> On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 18:53:13 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> >  https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/D4uSWtazRCM?rel=0
>
> Nice idea.
>
> Rather high wing loading with the small wings.
>
> 1 megawatt = 1341 horsepower, how long can the batteries provide 1041
> horsepower? How heavy are they?
>
> How large is the fuel tank? How often does it need to be filled?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Moving engines

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I am solo. Even with a tractor it is a LOT of work

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> Looks like lots a work!
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> Are you solo or is family helping out
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Re: [MBZ] Moving engines

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Looks like lots a work!

Are you solo or is family helping out
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Re: [MBZ] Finally, something I would like to have in an electric car

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 18:53:13 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:


  https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/D4uSWtazRCM?rel=0


Nice idea.

Rather high wing loading with the small wings.

1 megawatt = 1341 horsepower, how long can the batteries provide 1041
horsepower? How heavy are they?

How large is the fuel tank? How often does it need to be filled?

Craig



Bet it won't get 45 or 50 mpg like CL advertisers say our 123s will, 
and my VW and Escorts Diesels would get.


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Re: [MBZ] Moving engines

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

For your viewing pleasure. Only about 15 more to go.

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> On Aug 8, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> I'm out here in the 102 heat, 115 heat index, loading engines to haul out to 
> new okie acres. I received my quick attach pallet fork attachment for my 
> tractor yesterday and boy it sure makes moving them a lot easier. Just scoops 
> them right up.
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Re: [MBZ] Finally, something I would like to have in an electric car

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 18:53:13 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

>  https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/D4uSWtazRCM?rel=0

Nice idea.

Rather high wing loading with the small wings.

1 megawatt = 1341 horsepower, how long can the batteries provide 1041
horsepower? How heavy are they?

How large is the fuel tank? How often does it need to be filled?


Craig

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[MBZ] Finally, something I would like to have in an electric car

[G Mann via Mercedes]

 https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/D4uSWtazRCM?rel=0
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Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire

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On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 17:57:36 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes
 wrote:

> BTW, the two small ('bout 5/8" dia.) burned spots on my hand are
> healing fast and nicely - not burned as badly as I first thought.

Good!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Delivery Notification: Delivery has been delayed

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Das autokorrecten.

Dan


> On Aug 8, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Was bedeutet das "topiary"?
> 
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> Holy cow, it’s been raining again.  I’m trying topiary out the S500 coupe, 
> and it’s so bad I’m finally pulling it into the garage to do most of the 
> interior today.  I gave up trying to work in it in the driveway.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> > On Aug 8, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I thought maybe you and your fleet had gotten flooded in all that rain down 
> > there.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/8/15 7:22 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> One of eight from early this morning.  I also noticed that a bunch of 
> >> messages I sent earlier this week just went through.
> >>
> >> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire

[WILTON via Mercedes]

This afternoon I did a tank exchange (empty one for a "full" one) at 
Wal-Mart for $16.89.  'Did not turn in the leaking one yet, though.


Grilled coupla mighty good salmon steaks without burning myself nor the 
house.


BTW, the two small ('bout 5/8" dia.) burned spots on my hand are healing 
fast and nicely - not burned as badly as I first thought.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire



On 04/08/2015 7:45 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Kleb sez: You can get bottles filled but around here most people just 
swap theirs for a full one for about $18 or so. I guess this is a reason 
why charcoal is better but we use propane because it's easier.


Those swap cylinders are NOT full.  they have 16-18 lb in a 25 lb 
cylinder.  When you get the tank filled, they put in 25 lb for a buck or 
two less than a swap.




Does Costco sell propane down south?
We are currently paying $8.45 for a 20# fill at Costco here in Winnipeg.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT Crazy Uncle Joe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

He's 72 - too old.  Might be veep, though...

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm sure the SS would have it on their drones and dashcams and
> gunsightcams and whatever else.
>
> --R
>
>
>
>
> On 8/8/15 1:18 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> is coming by again today.  Should I go out the end of the driveway and
>>> introduce him to the full moon?
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>> Only if someone records video to preserve the moment for history!
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Delivery Notification: Delivery has been delayed

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Was bedeutet das "topiary"?

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Holy cow, it’s been raining again.  I’m trying topiary out the S500 coupe,
> and it’s so bad I’m finally pulling it into the garage to do most of the
> interior today.  I gave up trying to work in it in the driveway.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Aug 8, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I thought maybe you and your fleet had gotten flooded in all that rain
> down there.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/8/15 7:22 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> One of eight from early this morning.  I also noticed that a bunch of
> messages I sent earlier this week just went through.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb cars in CA $295, NM

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Great daily driver except for lack of an engine.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> http://humboldt.craigslist.org/cto/5142068905.html
>
> If it didn't cost $1500 to get it here, i'd be interested.
>
> http://santafe.craigslist.org/cto/5107047411.html
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Re: [MBZ] Moving engines

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I just hope I did not knock a hole in an oil pan or something. Got a leaking 
one on there . I think I'm going to drain the oil out of them before shelving 
them in the shop

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> On Aug 8, 2015, at 4:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Don't ruin the engines with all that salt water dripping on them (sweat).
> 
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'm out here in the 102 heat, 115 heat index, loading engines to haul out
>> to new okie acres. I received my quick attach pallet fork attachment for my
>> tractor yesterday and boy it sure makes moving them a lot easier. Just
>> scoops them right up.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] My W140 remote is infrared, but my S210 is radio...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 8, 2015 at 4:36 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Apply the Jaime rule: how much will this hack cost, and is my car or person
> worth that cost to the hacker?
> 
> Just because they can, doesn't mean that they will.

I think he said the parts cost him $32.

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Re: [MBZ] Moving engines

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 16:03:24 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Don't ruin the engines with all that salt water dripping on them
> (sweat).

Don't ruin yourself by frying your brains in the heat!


Craig

> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > I'm out here in the 102 heat, 115 heat index, loading engines to haul
> > out to new okie acres. I received my quick attach pallet fork
> > attachment for my tractor yesterday and boy it sure makes moving them
> > a lot easier. Just scoops them right up.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Burial at Sea

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On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 16:13:13 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes
 wrote:

> You're tough, Craig; 'don't think I could do it.  You're to be highly 
> commended.
> 
> Wilton

Thank you, Wilton.


Craig


> - Original Message - 
> From: "Craig via Mercedes" 
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> Cc: "Craig" 
> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 2:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Burial at Sea
> 
> 
> > On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 08:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.thesandgram.com/2009/07/28/burial-at-sea-by-ltcol-george-goodson-usmc-ret/
> >
> > Thank you, Mitch, for the link. Having been a mortuary escort officer
> > when I was in the USAF, I have an inkling of what he went through.
> >
> > A blog entry about the fellow who wrote the posting above is at,
> > http://www.thesandgram.com/2009/12/22/internet-legend-ltcol-george-goodson-usmc-ret/
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Re: [MBZ] My W140 remote is infrared, but my S210 is radio...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 16:36:09 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Apply the Jaime rule: how much will this hack cost, 

$35.00


> and is my car or person worth that cost to the hacker?

That is hard to know. The hack is resuable, though, so the hacker might
think of it as an on-going business ...


> Just because they can, doesn't mean that they will.

Indeed.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Moving engines

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Don't ruin the engines with all that salt water dripping on them (sweat).

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm out here in the 102 heat, 115 heat index, loading engines to haul out
> to new okie acres. I received my quick attach pallet fork attachment for my
> tractor yesterday and boy it sure makes moving them a lot easier. Just
> scoops them right up.
>
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[MBZ] Moving engines

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I'm out here in the 102 heat, 115 heat index, loading engines to haul out to 
new okie acres. I received my quick attach pallet fork attachment for my 
tractor yesterday and boy it sure makes moving them a lot easier. Just scoops 
them right up.

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Re: [MBZ] My W140 remote is infrared, but my S210 is radio...

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Apply the Jaime rule: how much will this hack cost, and is my car or person
worth that cost to the hacker?

Just because they can, doesn't mean that they will.

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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] No more sinking, maybe

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I think of it as the four wheel disk pedal feel, experienced it the first time
I drove a Saab. I think any car with ZERO AIR (sometimes easier said than done)
and 4 wheel disks should have it. 

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] No more sinking, maybe

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I think you're right Dan, that'll be my next move.  I noticed that the
brake hoses on my '87 wagon are looking pretty ragged, might as well get an
extra set for the '95 sedan and see how that works.

Hmmm, if they are the same part number, perhaps I'll get one set of new
hoses for the wagon, and try them on the sedan before they go on the wagon,
then I'll know.  That will only cost me brake fluid and time.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It’s the lines.  The R129s are the same way, they have really mushy
> feeling brakes no matter what.
>
> Put a set of new lines, or better yet, some stainless steel lines and
> you’ll have a noticeable difference.
>
> Dan
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] $2000 for an '83 300D, 130k miles?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Even worse, it was a charity auction car, so they might have paid less.

However, they're probably going to sell for as close to "market value" as
they can, regardless of their cost, until enough time has gone by.

I think if Dad checks with them once or twice, they'll come down.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> The AC doesn't work?
> What did they offer for it in trade-in value, $500?
>
> Mitch.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] $2000 for an '83 300D, 130k miles?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

No, because I would have already bought it myself!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Is it a G300D?
>
> --R
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Burial at Sea

[WILTON via Mercedes]

You're tough, Craig; 'don't think I could do it.  You're to be highly 
commended.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Craig via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Craig" 
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Burial at Sea



On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 08:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:


http://www.thesandgram.com/2009/07/28/burial-at-sea-by-ltcol-george-goodson-usmc-ret/


Thank you, Mitch, for the link. Having been a mortuary escort officer
when I was in the USAF, I have an inkling of what he went through.

A blog entry about the fellow who wrote the posting above is at,
http://www.thesandgram.com/2009/12/22/internet-legend-ltcol-george-goodson-usmc-ret/


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] My W140 remote is infrared, but my S210 is radio...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 08:49:49 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> http://www.wired.com/2015/08/hackers-tiny-device-unlocks-cars-opens-garages

Hmmm!

All of our vehicles need a metal key to open ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] No more sinking, maybe

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s the lines.  The R129s are the same way, they have really mushy feeling 
brakes no matter what.

Put a set of new lines, or better yet, some stainless steel lines and you’ll 
have a noticeable difference.

Dan


> On Aug 8, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 11:27:31 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I would love this '95 sedan to have the firm "German" feel that my 124
>> & 123 wagons have/had, but I'm not sure of the root cause.
>> 
>> Who else can share the pedal feel for a 124 E300? How about other '95
>> 124 cars?  Maybe my car is normal? 
> 
> Our '95 E320 had good pedal feel.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] No more sinking, maybe

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 11:27:31 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I would love this '95 sedan to have the firm "German" feel that my 124
> & 123 wagons have/had, but I'm not sure of the root cause.
> 
> Who else can share the pedal feel for a 124 E300? How about other '95
> 124 cars?  Maybe my car is normal? 

Our '95 E320 had good pedal feel.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] $2000 for an '83 300D, 130k miles?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 8, 2015 at 1:01 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Offer $1500 he could probably get it.  Not like there is a huge market 
> in a small town, and $2k is a bit high for a 32yo car to most people.

The AC doesn't work?
What did they offer for it in trade-in value, $500?

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT Crazy Uncle Joe

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I'm sure the SS would have it on their drones and dashcams and 
gunsightcams and whatever else.


--R



On 8/8/15 1:18 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
is coming by again today.  Should I go out the end of the driveway 
and introduce him to the full moon?


--R



Only if someone records video to preserve the moment for history!

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Re: [MBZ] $2000 for an '83 300D, 130k miles?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Is it a G300D?

--R



On 8/8/15 2:19 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

EPC data card says one of the options is an electronic locking differential?

Anyone know if that was a factory option for a 123 car?



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Re: [MBZ] OT Crazy Uncle Joe

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

That ain't hapnin bo.  Watch this space.

--R



On 8/8/15 1:34 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Maybe you should let them build some more roads?



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Burial at Sea

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 08:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> http://www.thesandgram.com/2009/07/28/burial-at-sea-by-ltcol-george-goodson-usmc-ret/

Thank you, Mitch, for the link. Having been a mortuary escort officer
when I was in the USAF, I have an inkling of what he went through.

A blog entry about the fellow who wrote the posting above is at,
http://www.thesandgram.com/2009/12/22/internet-legend-ltcol-george-goodson-usmc-ret/


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] $2000 for an '83 300D, 130k miles?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

EPC data card says one of the options is an electronic locking differential?

Anyone know if that was a factory option for a 123 car?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] OT Crazy Uncle Joe

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Maybe you should let them build some more roads?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 8, 2015 12:59:36 PM EDT, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 wrote:
  It was actually fairly
>low-key, 
>only 6 or 8 vehicles aside from ever how many cops.  It always buggers 
>up the (one) road coming out this way as they have sort of a rolling 
>blockade that blocks off other roads and driveways and such for 10 or
>15 
>minutes.  I have no idea why they don't just fly him out in a helo from
>
>the airport and dispense with all the drama but I guess that would be 
>more involved.
>


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Re: [MBZ] $2000 for an '83 300D, 130k miles?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

They are asking $2600, he's offered $2k.  
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 8, 2015 1:01:07 PM EDT, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Offer $1500 he could probably get it.  Not like there is a huge market 
>in a small town, and $2k is a bit high for a 32yo car to most people.
>
>-R
>
>On 8/8/15 12:24 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> My Dad found this car at a small town dealership, very nice interior
>and exterior looks rust-free with good paint.  Drives very well, but
>the AC doesn't work.  Car looks very well cared for, but no service
>records.
>>
>> I think that's a fair price, if indeed the car is rust free or nearly
>so.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Crazy Uncle Joe

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

is coming by again today.  Should I go out the end of the driveway 
and introduce him to the full moon?


--R



Only if someone records video to preserve the moment for history!

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Re: [MBZ] Trying to screw the clown

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Look on the Adult Swim website.  They have lots of their content posted there 
and it’s free.

I lost track of Archer.  I watched the first episode this season but wasn’t 
moved.  I’ve got the rest of the season on the DVR, but haven’t tried watching 
them yet.

I love Mr. Pickles.  He’s my kind of dog.

Dan


> On Aug 8, 2015, at 8:45 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> No cable here either. Lots of episodes on Youtube. I haven't looked at the 
> Cartoon Network website yet...
> -Curt
>  From: Jim Cathey 
> To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
>  
> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 8:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trying to screw the clown
> 
>> Have you watched any of the earlier day stuff, Uncle Grandpa, Regular 
>> Show, Clarence, Adventure Time? Similar to ATHF for strangeness but 
>> not as raunchy.
> 
> No cable here.  Archer we watch on Netflix.
> 
> 
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Urgent repair shop needed in central mass

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Planning on it later this weekend.

Dan

> On Aug 8, 2015, at 10:37 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On August 6, 2015 at 9:20 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
> 
>> On a related note, he gave me the MB key reference sheets yesterday when I
>> ordered some keys for the S420. There's about 6 pages of stuff and it's the
>> definitive reference for what keys go with which model car along with remote
>> part numbers and key part numbers.
>> 
>> Not something you often use, but a great resource none the less.
> 
> Scan the pages and post them as a .pdf?
> 
> Mitch. 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Delivery Notification: Delivery has been delayed

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Holy cow, it’s been raining again.  I’m trying topiary out the S500 coupe, and 
it’s so bad I’m finally pulling it into the garage to do most of the interior 
today.  I gave up trying to work in it in the driveway.

Dan


> On Aug 8, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I thought maybe you and your fleet had gotten flooded in all that rain down 
> there.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/8/15 7:22 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> One of eight from early this morning.  I also noticed that a bunch of 
>> messages I sent earlier this week just went through.
>> 
>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] $2000 for an '83 300D, 130k miles?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Offer $1500 he could probably get it.  Not like there is a huge market 
in a small town, and $2k is a bit high for a 32yo car to most people.


-R

On 8/8/15 12:24 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

My Dad found this car at a small town dealership, very nice interior and 
exterior looks rust-free with good paint.  Drives very well, but the AC doesn't 
work.  Car looks very well cared for, but no service records.

I think that's a fair price, if indeed the car is rust free or nearly so.



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Re: [MBZ] OT Crazy Uncle Joe

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

He's "mulling"

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150808/PC1603/150809393/1009

I think he just came by a little while ago, I heard the helicopter 
buzzing around, but I did not go out to wave the flag.


My buddy and his wife were riding their bikes on the beach when they 
were here a few weeks ago, saw Mrs. B jogging on the beach early Sunday 
morning.  She had a coupla SS guys trailing along and the Coasties had a 
dinghy following off the beach, and there was a cutter a bit further off 
shore.  I was riding my bike the afternoon they came, bunch of cops came 
flying past me in the road and closed it down, I rode on to the 
roundabout and stopped next to one of the deputies and was chatting with 
him, the motorcade came by a few minutes later.  The deputy seemed 
rather bored with the whole matter and seemed to rather be doing 
something else.  I got a bunch of pics.  It was actually fairly low-key, 
only 6 or 8 vehicles aside from ever how many cops.  It always buggers 
up the (one) road coming out this way as they have sort of a rolling 
blockade that blocks off other roads and driveways and such for 10 or 15 
minutes.  I have no idea why they don't just fly him out in a helo from 
the airport and dispense with all the drama but I guess that would be 
more involved.


He occasionally comes to the little shopping center down the road for an 
ice cream or whatever, usually fairly low-key.  I try to avoid the place 
this time a year as it is full of idiot Yankee turistas who check their 
brains at the bridge before proceeding on out this way.


--R


On 8/8/15 12:16 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:



On August 8, 2015 at 11:31 AM Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
wrote:


is coming by again today.  Should I go out the end of the driveway and
introduce him to the full moon?

Is he running for president again?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] $2000 for an '83 300D, 130k miles?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

That is of the miles are legit and not rolled back

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 8, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My Dad found this car at a small town dealership, very nice interior and 
> exterior looks rust-free with good paint.  Drives very well, but the AC 
> doesn't work.  Car looks very well cared for, but no service records.
> 
> I think that's a fair price, if indeed the car is rust free or nearly so.  
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
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[MBZ] $2000 for an '83 300D, 130k miles?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

My Dad found this car at a small town dealership, very nice interior and 
exterior looks rust-free with good paint.  Drives very well, but the AC doesn't 
work.  Car looks very well cared for, but no service records.

I think that's a fair price, if indeed the car is rust free or nearly so.  
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] OT Crazy Uncle Joe

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 8, 2015 at 11:31 AM Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> is coming by again today.  Should I go out the end of the driveway and 
> introduce him to the full moon?

Is he running for president again?

Mitch. 

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[MBZ] OT some RR car pR0n vid

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

http://jalopnik.com/bask-in-the-sweet-serenity-of-the-rolls-royce-assembly-1722787389

--R



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[MBZ] OT Crazy Uncle Joe

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

is coming by again today.  Should I go out the end of the driveway and 
introduce him to the full moon?


--R



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Re: [MBZ] No more sinking, maybe

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks, last night we drove that car around town, brakes are 100% normal.

I would love this '95 sedan to have the firm "German" feel that my 124 & 123 
wagons have/had, but I'm not sure of the root cause.

Who else can share the pedal feel for a 124 E300? How about other '95 124 cars? 
 Maybe my car is normal? 
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 8, 2015 11:17:35 AM EDT, WILTON via Mercedes  
wrote:
>ATTABOY, maybe; 'hope it goes well.
>
>Wilton
>


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Re: [MBZ] No more sinking, maybe

[WILTON via Mercedes]

ATTABOY, maybe; 'hope it goes well.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes" 
Cc: "Meade Dillon" 
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 4:33 PM
Subject: [MBZ] No more sinking, maybe



FTE master cylinder arrived last night about 8:30 p.m., I had half a day
off so I installed it after lunch.  Did not bench bleed it, just used the
power bleeder and pushed fresh fluid out to all four wheels.

Pedal feel is exactly like before (mushy) but it has always been mushy on
that car.  I may decide to try a different brake booster.  What causes a
mushy brake pedal other than air or bad MC?  Time for new brake hoses at
all four corners?

At first, the pedal would sink, just like with the last MC.  I drove it
around the block and stopped hard a few times, and it got better.  Doesn't
sink now, brakes do their thing just fine, no pulling.  I may get some 
more

brake fluid and try bleeding it some more.

I think I'll drive this car for a few days and see how it performs.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Secret message to Gerry Was: Gerry's undeliverables

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I almost always follow-up with a phone call, I think there are only a couple of 
guys that respond.  Tom Hanson is the manager, the other guy is just as good.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

 Curly wrote: I have in a parts 
>request to the CC, but no response for a week.  I don't have part 
>numbers yet.

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[MBZ] Kleb cars in CA $295, NM

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

http://humboldt.craigslist.org/cto/5142068905.html

If it didn't cost $1500 to get it here, i'd be interested.

http://santafe.craigslist.org/cto/5107047411.html



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Re: [MBZ] Ceramic brakes Wuz:This is bad

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I think organic is a euphemism for ASBESTOS.

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Are they free-range, renewable, ethically-produced pads?  Not all organic
> is equal!
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 8/8/15 1:02 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> FWIW:  I have never had ceramic pads on an MB.  ALL stop well, no
>> problems with fade, etc with the cheap or midrange pads.  The very cheapest
>> pads are ok, they just make your wheels dirtier.  Midrange are a little
>> less dirty for the wheels.
>>
>> OE on the MBs were organic or asbestos, depending on age. (pre 1990 MBs)
>> OE on the dogde were ceramic, so I used ceramic there.
>>
>>
>>
>> DO you want or care about clean wheels?
>>
>> Ceramic will keep your wheels cleaner.  I've had very good luck with
>> cheap pads from oreely.  They do make your wheels dirty.  I just clean and
>> paint the wheels every few years with a rattlecan. Unless you are driving
>> on a race track, the cheap (organic) pads work very well.  If you plan to
>> drag the brakes all the way down a mountain, they may fade, but I never
>> have any problem.
>>
>> Ceramic on the dogde van:  The anti skid accelerometer has been fubar
>> mostly since we got the van.  Most of the time the system turns itself off,
>> but sometimes the LF brake drags.  this ruins the discs and pads.  About 18
>> months ago I put new pads and rotors on; did the ceramic pad breakin stuff;
>> and they were wonderful.
>>
>> Unfortunately, i never figured out how to snip the purple wire somewhere
>> buried under the console that is said to disable the antiskid system.  So
>> the new rotors and pads are ruined.  I recently dug in to the console
>> innards and found the accelerometer.  I never found the purple wire, but I
>> unplugged the accelerometer, with the same effect.  Anti skid is now dead.
>> There are 2 fuses you can pull to disable, but it also kills the
>> speedometer, odometer and some other somewhat necessary systems. This is
>> all not really the fault of ceramic pads, but i don't think the cheap pads
>> would cause the rotor warping like these did.
>>
>> The whole deal of the special breakin procedure for the ceramic pads is
>> related to not warping the rotors and putting a glaze on the ceramic pad.
>>
>>
>> How do organic pads compare to ceramic?
>>> --
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> '87 300TD
>>> '95 E300
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Delivery Notification: Delivery has been delayed

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I thought maybe you and your fleet had gotten flooded in all that rain 
down there.


--R



On 8/8/15 7:22 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

One of eight from early this morning.  I also noticed that a bunch of messages 
I sent earlier this week just went through.

Dan



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Re: [MBZ] Ceramic brakes Wuz:This is bad

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Are they free-range, renewable, ethically-produced pads?  Not all 
organic is equal!


--R



On 8/8/15 1:02 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
FWIW:  I have never had ceramic pads on an MB.  ALL stop well, no 
problems with fade, etc with the cheap or midrange pads.  The very 
cheapest pads are ok, they just make your wheels dirtier.  Midrange 
are a little less dirty for the wheels.


OE on the MBs were organic or asbestos, depending on age. (pre 1990 MBs)
OE on the dogde were ceramic, so I used ceramic there.



DO you want or care about clean wheels?

Ceramic will keep your wheels cleaner.  I've had very good luck with 
cheap pads from oreely.  They do make your wheels dirty.  I just clean 
and paint the wheels every few years with a rattlecan. Unless you are 
driving on a race track, the cheap (organic) pads work very well.  If 
you plan to drag the brakes all the way down a mountain, they may 
fade, but I never have any problem.


Ceramic on the dogde van:  The anti skid accelerometer has been fubar 
mostly since we got the van.  Most of the time the system turns itself 
off, but sometimes the LF brake drags.  this ruins the discs and 
pads.  About 18 months ago I put new pads and rotors on; did the 
ceramic pad breakin stuff; and they were wonderful.


Unfortunately, i never figured out how to snip the purple wire 
somewhere buried under the console that is said to disable the 
antiskid system.  So the new rotors and pads are ruined.  I recently 
dug in to the console innards and found the accelerometer.  I never 
found the purple wire, but I unplugged the accelerometer, with the 
same effect.  Anti skid is now dead. There are 2 fuses you can pull to 
disable, but it also kills the speedometer, odometer and some other 
somewhat necessary systems. This is all not really the fault of 
ceramic pads, but i don't think the cheap pads would cause the rotor 
warping like these did.


The whole deal of the special breakin procedure for the ceramic pads 
is related to not warping the rotors and putting a glaze on the 
ceramic pad.




How do organic pads compare to ceramic?
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300



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Re: [MBZ] Urgent repair shop needed in central mass

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 6, 2015 at 9:20 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:

> On a related note, he gave me the MB key reference sheets yesterday when I
> ordered some keys for the S420. There's about 6 pages of stuff and it's the
> definitive reference for what keys go with which model car along with remote
> part numbers and key part numbers.
> 
> Not something you often use, but a great resource none the less.

Scan the pages and post them as a .pdf?

Mitch. 

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[MBZ] Secret message to Gerry Was: Gerry's undeliverables

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

For the trip:  We want to drive, as it will be less expensive.  My 
son and his family will fly after they visit inlaws and outlaws


For the 4 speed shifter links:  There is one bushing on the end of 
each of the 3 shift rods.  On the other end, an ball socket.  The 
bushings are black as opposed to the white/clear for the AT.  They 
are different part number from the AT bushings.  I have in a parts 
request to the CC, but no response for a week.  I don't have part 
numbers yet.





Gerrys undeliverable messages to MBZ:

Are you flying or driving on your winter vacation?
Thanks,
Gerry
Curly McLain via Mercedes  wrote:

 I just did a nationwide craikslist search for 240Ds... Its a LOT
 different from the last time I did that several years ago.  Used to
 be lots of 240Ds.  Tonight, only 3 cars listed within the past week.
 And some scrapper in Oregon who is advertising as a local on
 craikslist all over the country.


It's about five miles from me in Citrus County. They bought out a 
junk yard and
built a big warehouse; maybe 75 doors. All kinds of trucks are 
coming and going

day and night. Acres of cars on the back lot.
I ordered a used generator. It came shrink-wrapped in opaque plastic.  When I
got home and unwrapped it, it was covered with mud, the armature was badly
grooved, and it wouldn't come up to specs when I bench tested it. My 
impression

is that they aren't interested in selling small parts to individuals; at least
not here.
Gerry

 Jacksonville, maybe.  They took over the remains of Atlanta Stuttgart, I
 believe.  I know hey have a location in GA.
 Dan

 On Aug 2, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:
 Wasn't there a Potomac German Auto yard in Florida that became an LKQ yard?
  Anyone remember the location?
 Max Dillon

.
I'm pretty sure my '83 has 4; on both ends of two links. An '80 might be
different.
Gerry
Curly McLain wrote:
 Anyone know for sure how many bushings are needed for the 4 speed

 manual transmission?  I think it is three, one for each rod, and the
 other end has an adjuster with a key, so no bushing is needed.  Is
 this right?  Thanks
 1980 240D

.
I wonder how effective a 2200 psi pressure washer throwing a narrow stream of
water would be?  Mine can throw water pretty far and there are more expensive
models with higher pressure.
Gerry
Meade wrote:

 I see a market for gun-like tool which shoots a net or somesuch to bring
 down a drone.  Keep the drone until anyone claiming to be the owner can
 prove they are the owner in a court of law.  After enough publicity, jail
 time & fines for those breaking federal laws, and just the pure hassle of

 > getting your drone back, drone incidents like this will be reduced.
 >> -
 > Max
 > Charleston SC
..
55 years total ownership of 5 Mercedes diesels since 1973.
Since all ran at least 10K/year with the first one doing about 
30K/year for six
years, the approx mileage would be a conservative total of about 
770,000 miles.

4 members of the family drove them.
Gerry
Andrew wrote:

 My ownership year totals (12) are less impressive than their combined
 mileage - 645,000 - or to the moon and back, and nearly there again
 Andrew
 1983 300TD  owned since 2008  349,000 mi.
 1985 300TD  owned since 2010   296,000

...

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Delivery Notification: Delivery has been delayed

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The problem is lots of spam has been coming from your isp so some of your 
messages have been getting caught in the spam filters. Should be cleared now.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 8, 2015, at 6:22 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> One of eight from early this morning.  I also noticed that a bunch of 
> messages I sent earlier this week just went through.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
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>> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 17:46:14 -0400
>> From: Dan Penoff 
>> To: Okie Benz 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] That sinking (brake) feeling
>> 
>> Your message has been enqueued and undeliverable for 2 days
>> to the following recipients:
>> 
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>> 
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>> Randy,
>> 
>> How did you hone the bore?
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
 On Aug 5, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes =
>>>  wrote:
>>> =20
>>> I ordered a rebuild kit for the mc in my 1976 115 300D.
>>> It took a while to show up but I got it. It is Raybestos brand and =
>> says that it was made in Australia.
>>> I am struggling to get the kit installed however. It was a bit of a =
>> bear to get apart and is also challenging me in putting it back =
>> together. No problem taking the mc out of the car.
>>> It is amazing how stretchy the rubber parts are. Even after the Lord =
>> only knows how long the existing parts had soaked in brake fluid, they =
>> were not easy to get off of the metal plunger. It took some pr

[MBZ] Gerry's undeliverables

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Gerrys undeliverable messages to MBZ:

Are you flying or driving on your winter vacation?
Thanks,
Gerry
Curly McLain via Mercedes  wrote:
> I just did a nationwide craikslist search for 240Ds... Its a LOT
> different from the last time I did that several years ago.  Used to
> be lots of 240Ds.  Tonight, only 3 cars listed within the past week.
> And some scrapper in Oregon who is advertising as a local on
> craikslist all over the country.

It's about five miles from me in Citrus County. They bought out a junk yard and
built a big warehouse; maybe 75 doors. All kinds of trucks are coming and going
day and night. Acres of cars on the back lot.
I ordered a used generator. It came shrink-wrapped in opaque plastic.  When I
got home and unwrapped it, it was covered with mud, the armature was badly
grooved, and it wouldn't come up to specs when I bench tested it. My impression
is that they aren't interested in selling small parts to individuals; at least
not here.
Gerry
> Jacksonville, maybe.  They took over the remains of Atlanta Stuttgart, I
> believe.  I know hey have a location in GA.
> Dan
>> On Aug 2, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> Wasn't there a Potomac German Auto yard in Florida that became an LKQ yard?
>>  Anyone remember the location?
>> Max Dillon
.
I'm pretty sure my '83 has 4; on both ends of two links. An '80 might be
different.
Gerry
Curly McLain wrote:
 Anyone know for sure how many bushings are needed for the 4 speed
> manual transmission?  I think it is three, one for each rod, and the
> other end has an adjuster with a key, so no bushing is needed.  Is
> this right?  Thanks
> 1980 240D
.
I wonder how effective a 2200 psi pressure washer throwing a narrow stream of
water would be?  Mine can throw water pretty far and there are more expensive
models with higher pressure.
Gerry
Meade wrote:
> I see a market for gun-like tool which shoots a net or somesuch to bring
> down a drone.  Keep the drone until anyone claiming to be the owner can
> prove they are the owner in a court of law.  After enough publicity, jail
> time & fines for those breaking federal laws, and just the pure hassle of
> getting your drone back, drone incidents like this will be reduced.
>> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
..
55 years total ownership of 5 Mercedes diesels since 1973.
Since all ran at least 10K/year with the first one doing about 30K/year for six
years, the approx mileage would be a conservative total of about 770,000 miles.
4 members of the family drove them.
Gerry
Andrew wrote:
> My ownership year totals (12) are less impressive than their combined
> mileage - 645,000 - or to the moon and back, and nearly there again
> Andrew
> 1983 300TD  owned since 2008  349,000 mi.
> 1985 300TD  owned since 2010   296,000
...

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[MBZ] My W140 remote is infrared, but my S210 is radio...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

http://www.wired.com/2015/08/hackers-tiny-device-unlocks-cars-opens-garages

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Re: [MBZ] Trying to screw the clown

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

No cable here either. Lots of episodes on Youtube. I haven't looked at the 
Cartoon Network website yet...
-Curt
  From: Jim Cathey 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 8:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trying to screw the clown
   
> Have you watched any of the earlier day stuff, Uncle Grandpa, Regular 
> Show, Clarence, Adventure Time? Similar to ATHF for strangeness but 
> not as raunchy.

No cable here.  Archer we watch on Netflix.



-- Jim



  
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Re: [MBZ] Trying to screw the clown

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Have you watched any of the earlier day stuff, Uncle Grandpa, Regular 
Show, Clarence, Adventure Time? Similar to ATHF for strangeness but 
not as raunchy.


No cable here.  Archer we watch on Netflix.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Trying to screw the clown

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Have you watched any of the earlier day stuff, Uncle Grandpa, Regular Show, 
Clarence, Adventure Time? Similar to ATHF for strangeness but not as raunchy.
-Curt
  From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Jim Cathey  
 Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 8:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trying to screw the clown
   
> Dan fan of Robot Chicken and Aqua Teen Hunger Force

Myself, I'm a fan of Archer.

-- Jim




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Re: [MBZ] Trying to screw the clown

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Dan fan of Robot Chicken and Aqua Teen Hunger Force


Myself, I'm a fan of Archer.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Thermostats at Liquidation Pricing

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Get a Nest.  I’ve had one for nearly two years and it’s close to having paid 
for itself.

Dan


> On Aug 7, 2015, at 11:35 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Since many of you have been having Heating/AC problems this year, may someone 
> is interested in a new thermostat.  These guys have been sending me a lot of 
> deals for air cond.  Sounds like Kleb is fixed up again, but someone else may 
> be down.
> 
> Happy DIYing!
> 
> 
> 
> Click on the "click here" link below to see the thermostats on sale. Some are 
> really cheap.  For the website: surpluscityliquidators.com if you need a 
> furnace, a/c water hotter, 'lectric motor, etc.
> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Ceramic brakes Wuz:This is bad

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

There’s no special break-in process for ceramic pads that I know of.  You bed 
them in just like you would a set of organic pads, and that’s it.

I’ve used ceramic pads on the last three cars I’ve owned, and not only do they 
keep the wheels a lot cleaner, they last longer, too.

I just bought a set of domestic name brand (Wagner?) organic pads for the 1998 
S420 from Rock Auto on closeout.  A whopping $6.00.

Dan


> On Aug 8, 2015, at 12:58 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> DO you want or care about clean wheels?
> 
> Ceramic will keep your wheels cleaner.  I've had very good luck with cheap 
> pads from oreely.  They do make your wheels dirty.  I just clean and paint 
> the wheels every few years with a rattlecan.  Unless you are driving on a 
> race track, the cheap (organic) pads work very well.  If you plan to drag the 
> brakes all the way down a mountain, they may fade, but I never have any 
> problem.
> 
> Ceramic on the dogde van:  The anti skid accelerometer has been fubar mostly 
> since we got the van.  Most of the time the system turns itself off, but 
> sometimes the LF brake drags.  this ruins the discs and pads.  About 18 
> months ago I put new pads and rotors on; did the ceramic pad breakin stuff; 
> and they were wonderful.
> 
> Unfortunately, i never figured out how to snip the purple wire somewhere 
> buried under the console that is said to disable the antiskid system.  So the 
> new rotors and pads are ruined.  I recently dug in to the console innards and 
> found the accelerometer.  I never found the purple wire, but I unplugged the 
> accelerometer, with the same effect.  Anti skid is now dead.  There are 2 
> fuses you can pull to disable, but it also kills the speedometer, odometer 
> and some other somewhat necessary systems.  This is all not really the fault 
> of ceramic pads, but i don't think the cheap pads would cause the rotor 
> warping like these did.
> 
> The whole deal of the special breakin procedure for the ceramic pads is 
> related to not warping the rotors and putting a glaze on the ceramic pad.
> 
> 
>> How do organic pads compare to ceramic?
>> --
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
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[MBZ] Fwd: Delivery Notification: Delivery has been delayed

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

One of eight from early this morning.  I also noticed that a bunch of messages 
I sent earlier this week just went through.

Dan

> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: Verizon Online Postmaster 
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>  Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 17:46:14 -0400
>  From: Dan Penoff 
>  To: Okie Benz 
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] That sinking (brake) feeling
> 
> Your message has been enqueued and undeliverable for 2 days
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>  Recipient address: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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> Delivery attempt history for your mail:
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> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2015 17:46:14 -0400
> From: Dan Penoff 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] That sinking (brake) feeling
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> Randy,
> 
> How did you hone the bore?
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes =
>  wrote:
>> =20
>> I ordered a rebuild kit for the mc in my 1976 115 300D.
>> It took a while to show up but I got it. It is Raybestos brand and =
> says that it was made in Australia.
>> I am struggling to get the kit installed however. It was a bit of a =
> bear to get apart and is also challenging me in putting it back =
> together. No problem taking the mc out of the car.
>> It is amazing how stretchy the rubber parts are. Even after the Lord =
> only knows how long the existing parts had soaked in brake fluid, they =
> were not easy to get off of the metal plunger. It took some prying to =
> get them off. Then one has to stretch the new ones onto it. Not easy. I =

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Re: [MBZ] That sinking (brake) feeling

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Randy,

How did you hone the bore?

Dan


> On Aug 5, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I ordered a rebuild kit for the mc in my 1976 115 300D.
> It took a while to show up but I got it. It is Raybestos brand and says that 
> it was made in Australia.
> I am struggling to get the kit installed however. It was a bit of a bear to 
> get apart and is also challenging me in putting it back together. No problem 
> taking the mc out of the car.
> It is amazing how stretchy the rubber parts are. Even after the Lord only 
> knows how long the existing parts had soaked in brake fluid, they were not 
> easy to get off of the metal plunger. It took some prying to get them off. 
> Then one has to stretch the new ones onto it. Not easy. I cut the nozzle off 
> of a big caulking tube and used it to slide the rubber cup up on over the 
> ridge on the metal plunger. I tried to just roll it on with my fingers but 
> that is not easy when trying to do it to a small rubber doodad soaked in 
> brake fluid while wearing rubber gloves. Using the nozzle from the caulking 
> tube permitted me to stretch the rubber cup up to about the size of the metal 
> plunger diameter so that I could slip it over the ridge into the groove. 
> While doing so, I hoped I was not doing it any harm.  I guess, time will tell.
> 
> Now that I have that part together, my next challenge is to get that plunger 
> with the rubber cups on it to slide into the bore on the mc casting. There is 
> no way to do it with one's fingers as the smaller bore is at least 2 inches 
> down inside the larger bore on the stepped housing. I think the answer is to 
> find some tubing the right size and slip the plunger into it and reach the 
> whole mess down inside and get it lined up with the bore and then push the 
> plunger out of the tubing into the bore. I measured the plunger and it is 
> .749" so pretty close to 3/4" and 3/4" inside diameter pipe ought not to be 
> too hard to find. I need to poke around in my junk and see what I can come up 
> with, or head to a hardware store with my digital calipers to see what I can 
> find.
> The service manual on the CD indicates that MB likely provided a rebuild kit 
> for these at one time that came essentially assembled with a new plunger 
> inside a plastic tube. One shoved the tube into the mc housing and just 
> pushed it in. At least that is what it looks like to me in the photos.
> I am not so lucky. I just got a small bag of loose parts in a box. The price 
> was right and the mc looks good so it seemed to me to be a good thing to try 
> to keep the car pretty much original. However, I have paid more in insurance 
> for the period it has been off the road while I waited for the parts and then 
> while it waited for me to work on it, than it would have cost to have a 
> rebuilt one almost immediately. Such is life, "live and learn" hopefully.
> 
> RB
> 
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Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If you want to avoid potentially chilly temperatures, I would stay south of the 
Space Coast (Melbourne, Cocoa Beach) on the east coast, and Tampa on the west.

The Panhandle and Jacksonville have seasons. It can easily get into the 30s-40s 
in Pensacola and Panama City in the winter months.

Avoid South Florida unless you're looking for an "international" flare. Naples 
is nice but it's where all the rich conservatives winter, so it's pricey.

You could always go to the Bradenton area, which is immediately south of me 
(Tampa). It's where the Amish winter.

Dan (don't tell the deacon!)

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On Aug 4, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

>> I went to Naples last Feb. and swam in the Gulf - barely tolerable at 70
>> degrees.
> 
> Napoli is nice, but too far and too expensive.  It might cost less to go to 
> the real Napoli than the fake one in FL.
> 
> We are trying to find someplace that is available and easy travel for family 
> in gu'fpo't and West Virginny, and preferably warm and some form of sand 
> beach, if only a pond.
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