[MBZ] Any SLK/R170 Owners Out There?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Fellow employee is buying an SLK230 (2001) with 100k on it from a 
neighbor/original owner.

I know nothing about these cars. Anyone out there familiar with them, know any 
of the Achille's heel/warts? I'm figuring hydraulics, since it's a convertible. 
Looks like a fleece oil filter engine, too, but not totally sure of that.

Of course he's asking me about it, so I said I would do some digging.  Looking 
over at BW now, too.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Any SLK/R170 Owners Out There?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I saw one of the first of those things sitting in front of the grand 
casino in Monte Carlo, it did not appeal to me then nor does it now, 
though my daughter likes them.


I know nothing about them other than they are really small.

--R


On 10/20/15 10:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Fellow employee is buying an SLK230 (2001) with 100k on it from a 
neighbor/original owner.

I know nothing about these cars. Anyone out there familiar with them, know any 
of the Achille's heel/warts? I'm figuring hydraulics, since it's a convertible. 
Looks like a fleece oil filter engine, too, but not totally sure of that.

Of course he's asking me about it, so I said I would do some digging.  Looking 
over at BW now, too.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT: Liberal Hand-wringing, Painful Introspection, and Existential Crises

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Actually my '05 isn't really a bottom feeder, once I replace the driver's 
fender and give it a polish it'll be a pretty nice car.
That said I was considering a Craigslist ad, Boston is a pretty liberal place, 
theres lots of TDIs running around here, no doubt owned by idiot tree huggers.
-Curt
  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
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Curt should be all over this whole thing, get a newer TDI and stop 
fooling with the bottom feeder level dizzels.  He could be a bottom 
feeder but get an upper level dizzel while helping alleviate green white 
guilt.

--R

On 10/20/15 1:22 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> Simple... almost all RV's have provision for a receiver hitch to tow a
> trailer or a car behind.. so... make the "green swap" for the "illegal
> diesel" .. get two of them.. tow one with one to the RV... Rent a flat bed
> trailer to haul the "offensive illegal diesel" with the RV.. and convoy the
> whole lot to where ever you can flip them.. Live in the RV while you are
> doing it..
>
> Better yet.. pick up one of the flatbed oilfield semi trailers and trucks,
> and haul a whole bunch of "offensive illegal diesels" ...
>
> How about a Craigslist add for the area first to "Buy your offensive legal
> diesel" ... for scrap of course..
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I like the Prii-swap idea, I wonder if you could drive one and tow
>> another, do the same back to Chuck town.
>>
>> Need to figure out how to work in the abandoned RVs in North Dakota, left
>> behind now that the oil boom has gone bust.
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Re: [MBZ] Any SLK/R170 Owners Out There?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Same here. Toy car, not a serious vehicle, possibly a throwaway.

CarMax offered the owner $3000 for it. He's selling it to guy I know for that. 
Guy I know is buying it for two teenage daughters.

He is an amazingly cheap bastard, too, so this should be fun to watch.

Dan

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> On Oct 20, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I saw one of the first of those things sitting in front of the grand casino 
> in Monte Carlo, it did not appeal to me then nor does it now, though my 
> daughter likes them.
> 
> I know nothing about them other than they are really small.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
>> On 10/20/15 10:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Fellow employee is buying an SLK230 (2001) with 100k on it from a 
>> neighbor/original owner.
>> 
>> I know nothing about these cars. Anyone out there familiar with them, know 
>> any of the Achille's heel/warts? I'm figuring hydraulics, since it's a 
>> convertible. Looks like a fleece oil filter engine, too, but not totally 
>> sure of that.
>> 
>> Of course he's asking me about it, so I said I would do some digging.  
>> Looking over at BW now, too.
>> 
>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Any SLK/R170 Owners Out There?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I always got a kick out of the little "spoiler" a la Porsche on the back that 
popped up above about 50-60 MPH.  As if it would make a difference...

Dan

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> On Oct 20, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah that sounds about right.  It looked stupid.  I wouldn't be caught dead 
> in a Crossfire.
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 10/20/15 2:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> The Crossfire?
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Any SLK/R170 Owners Out There?

[clay via Mercedes]

Small car better suited to petite women.  Local club has a SLK group of just 
that demographic.  

Early examples had issues with the hydraulic tops.  Same issues the early CLK 
cab had.  No room in the trunk for more than an overnight bag and cosmetic 
case.  Some folks are able to fit a golf bag with top down.

The 230 is underpowered.  Drivers prefer the 320 for greater speed and torque.  
The examples I have seen are not well cared for as a rule.  I am sure there are 
many people who do all the dealer work, but I suspect the bulk of the cars were 
leased and sold CPO down the line to wannabe owners who did not provide the 
care required after two years.  Early models were plentiful on the road as new, 
then seemed to fill secondary market used lots, and now are not seen on CL or 
the road.  Second gen cars are few and far between.  


clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
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On Oct 20, 2015, at 7:15 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:

> I saw one of the first of those things sitting in front of the grand casino 
> in Monte Carlo, it did not appeal to me then nor does it now, though my 
> daughter likes them.
> 
> I know nothing about them other than they are really small.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> On 10/20/15 10:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Fellow employee is buying an SLK230 (2001) with 100k on it from a 
>> neighbor/original owner.
>> 
>> I know nothing about these cars. Anyone out there familiar with them, know 
>> any of the Achille's heel/warts? I'm figuring hydraulics, since it's a 
>> convertible. Looks like a fleece oil filter engine, too, but not totally 
>> sure of that.
>> 
>> Of course he's asking me about it, so I said I would do some digging.  
>> Looking over at BW now, too.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Any SLK/R170 Owners Out There?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks, Clay.

Based on the physique of this guy (he couldn't be more than 5'8" in heels) I 
have to believe his kids are small in stature as well.

One owner, dealer maintained from what he's telling me, so it sounds like it's 
been cared for. Since it's going to be kids driving it, just as well that it's 
underpowered.

I checked with Klaus of Top Hydraulics, the recognized g-d and guru of all 
things convertible, and he said the later models were pretty good. Only has 
five cylinders to operate the top, compared to 11 in my SL500. A lot simpler 
system according to him.

Other than that I know nothing else about the car. From what little I've read 
so far, they don't appear to have too many weak points.

Dan

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> On Oct 20, 2015, at 2:49 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Small car better suited to petite women.  Local club has a SLK group of just 
> that demographic.  
> 
> Early examples had issues with the hydraulic tops.  Same issues the early CLK 
> cab had.  No room in the trunk for more than an overnight bag and cosmetic 
> case.  Some folks are able to fit a golf bag with top down.
> 
> The 230 is underpowered.  Drivers prefer the 320 for greater speed and 
> torque.  The examples I have seen are not well cared for as a rule.  I am 
> sure there are many people who do all the dealer work, but I suspect the bulk 
> of the cars were leased and sold CPO down the line to wannabe owners who did 
> not provide the care required after two years.  Early models were plentiful 
> on the road as new, then seemed to fill secondary market used lots, and now 
> are not seen on CL or the road.  Second gen cars are few and far between.  
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2015, at 7:15 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> I saw one of the first of those things sitting in front of the grand casino 
>> in Monte Carlo, it did not appeal to me then nor does it now, though my 
>> daughter likes them.
>> 
>> I know nothing about them other than they are really small.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/20/15 10:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Fellow employee is buying an SLK230 (2001) with 100k on it from a 
>>> neighbor/original owner.
>>> 
>>> I know nothing about these cars. Anyone out there familiar with them, know 
>>> any of the Achille's heel/warts? I'm figuring hydraulics, since it's a 
>>> convertible. Looks like a fleece oil filter engine, too, but not totally 
>>> sure of that.
>>> 
>>> Of course he's asking me about it, so I said I would do some digging.  
>>> Looking over at BW now, too.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Any SLK/R170 Owners Out There?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The Crossfire?

Dan

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> On Oct 20, 2015, at 2:55 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What was that Chrysler thing that was pretty much the same design as the SLK 
> but with cheaper components?  I've seen a few of those around but not many.
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 10/20/15 2:49 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>> Small car better suited to petite women.  Local club has a SLK group of just 
>> that demographic.
>> 
>> Early examples had issues with the hydraulic tops.  Same issues the early 
>> CLK cab had.  No room in the trunk for more than an overnight bag and 
>> cosmetic case.  Some folks are able to fit a golf bag with top down.
>> 
>> The 230 is underpowered.  Drivers prefer the 320 for greater speed and 
>> torque.  The examples I have seen are not well cared for as a rule.  I am 
>> sure there are many people who do all the dealer work, but I suspect the 
>> bulk of the cars were leased and sold CPO down the line to wannabe owners 
>> who did not provide the care required after two years.  Early models were 
>> plentiful on the road as new, then seemed to fill secondary market used 
>> lots, and now are not seen on CL or the road.  Second gen cars are few and 
>> far between.
>> 
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2015, at 7:15 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> I saw one of the first of those things sitting in front of the grand casino 
>>> in Monte Carlo, it did not appeal to me then nor does it now, though my 
>>> daughter likes them.
>>> 
>>> I know nothing about them other than they are really small.
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
>>> 
 On 10/20/15 10:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Fellow employee is buying an SLK230 (2001) with 100k on it from a 
 neighbor/original owner.
 
 I know nothing about these cars. Anyone out there familiar with them, know 
 any of the Achille's heel/warts? I'm figuring hydraulics, since it's a 
 convertible. Looks like a fleece oil filter engine, too, but not totally 
 sure of that.
 
 Of course he's asking me about it, so I said I would do some digging.  
 Looking over at BW now, too.
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] Any SLK/R170 Owners Out There?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Yeah that sounds about right.  It looked stupid.  I wouldn't be caught 
dead in a Crossfire.


--R

On 10/20/15 2:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

The Crossfire?

Dan

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On Oct 20, 2015, at 2:55 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
wrote:

What was that Chrysler thing that was pretty much the same design as the SLK 
but with cheaper components?  I've seen a few of those around but not many.

--R


On 10/20/15 2:49 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
Small car better suited to petite women.  Local club has a SLK group of just 
that demographic.

Early examples had issues with the hydraulic tops.  Same issues the early CLK 
cab had.  No room in the trunk for more than an overnight bag and cosmetic 
case.  Some folks are able to fit a golf bag with top down.

The 230 is underpowered.  Drivers prefer the 320 for greater speed and torque.  
The examples I have seen are not well cared for as a rule.  I am sure there are 
many people who do all the dealer work, but I suspect the bulk of the cars were 
leased and sold CPO down the line to wannabe owners who did not provide the 
care required after two years.  Early models were plentiful on the road as new, 
then seemed to fill secondary market used lots, and now are not seen on CL or 
the road.  Second gen cars are few and far between.


clay

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers









On Oct 20, 2015, at 7:15 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:

I saw one of the first of those things sitting in front of the grand casino in 
Monte Carlo, it did not appeal to me then nor does it now, though my daughter 
likes them.

I know nothing about them other than they are really small.

--R



On 10/20/15 10:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Fellow employee is buying an SLK230 (2001) with 100k on it from a 
neighbor/original owner.

I know nothing about these cars. Anyone out there familiar with them, know any 
of the Achille's heel/warts? I'm figuring hydraulics, since it's a convertible. 
Looks like a fleece oil filter engine, too, but not totally sure of that.

Of course he's asking me about it, so I said I would do some digging.  Looking 
over at BW now, too.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT: Liberal Hand-wringing, Painful Introspection, and Existential Crises

[G Mann via Mercedes]

There are only two teams, Predator and Prey ... pick which side you want to
play on .. hahaha..

Seems some of those who invested in the TDI for only the uber green theme
may be playing for the Prey team... Go get'tum tiger ..

Nothing satisfies the palate of the "green white guilt predator" like a
tasty meal of veggie fed tree hugger. ;))

[snark off]

Grant...

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Actually my '05 isn't really a bottom feeder, once I replace the driver's
> fender and give it a polish it'll be a pretty nice car.
> That said I was considering a Craigslist ad, Boston is a pretty liberal
> place, theres lots of TDIs running around here, no doubt owned by idiot
> tree huggers.
> -Curt
>   From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Rich Thomas 
>  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 9:49 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT: Liberal Hand-wringing, Painful
> Introspection, and Existential Crises
>
> Curt should be all over this whole thing, get a newer TDI and stop
> fooling with the bottom feeder level dizzels.  He could be a bottom
> feeder but get an upper level dizzel while helping alleviate green white
> guilt.
>
> --R
>
> On 10/20/15 1:22 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > Simple... almost all RV's have provision for a receiver hitch to tow a
> > trailer or a car behind.. so... make the "green swap" for the "illegal
> > diesel" .. get two of them.. tow one with one to the RV... Rent a flat
> bed
> > trailer to haul the "offensive illegal diesel" with the RV.. and convoy
> the
> > whole lot to where ever you can flip them.. Live in the RV while you are
> > doing it..
> >
> > Better yet.. pick up one of the flatbed oilfield semi trailers and
> trucks,
> > and haul a whole bunch of "offensive illegal diesels" ...
> >
> > How about a Craigslist add for the area first to "Buy your offensive
> legal
> > diesel" ... for scrap of course..
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I like the Prii-swap idea, I wonder if you could drive one and tow
> >> another, do the same back to Chuck town.
> >>
> >> Need to figure out how to work in the abandoned RVs in North Dakota,
> left
> >> behind now that the oil boom has gone bust.
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> >> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Which Xenon bulb to buy?

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> On October 20, 2015 at 11:51 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> > Avoid the Chinee stuff, it’s crap.
> 
> The $5 D2C that I put into the X5 is 2.5 years old, and
> still working just fine.  Amazon.  I have no idea who
> made it.  It's the wrong color, 6kK, but I was able to
> get it much quicker (and cheaper) than the correct one,
> which is still sitting on the shelf.


If I get a pair of D2R of the correct 4.3kK color, I would expect it to work out
as well or better than your situation. 

D2R - for reflector focused lamps.
D2S - for front focused (projector) lamps. 
D2C - this D2 stuff is outdated, let's just stock one bulb that sort of works
for D2R and D2S applications. 

Given the price difference, I think I'll buy the 'junk', put it in the dead
light, and compare it to the
old Phillips on the other side. If it's a lot worse, I'll get something better.
If it's not bad, I'll put
the other new bulb in and put the Phillips in the glove box for a spare. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Any SLK/R170 Owners Out There?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

What was that Chrysler thing that was pretty much the same design as the 
SLK but with cheaper components?  I've seen a few of those around but 
not many.


--R

On 10/20/15 2:49 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

Small car better suited to petite women.  Local club has a SLK group of just 
that demographic.

Early examples had issues with the hydraulic tops.  Same issues the early CLK 
cab had.  No room in the trunk for more than an overnight bag and cosmetic 
case.  Some folks are able to fit a golf bag with top down.

The 230 is underpowered.  Drivers prefer the 320 for greater speed and torque.  
The examples I have seen are not well cared for as a rule.  I am sure there are 
many people who do all the dealer work, but I suspect the bulk of the cars were 
leased and sold CPO down the line to wannabe owners who did not provide the 
care required after two years.  Early models were plentiful on the road as new, 
then seemed to fill secondary market used lots, and now are not seen on CL or 
the road.  Second gen cars are few and far between.


clay

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1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
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On Oct 20, 2015, at 7:15 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:


I saw one of the first of those things sitting in front of the grand casino in 
Monte Carlo, it did not appeal to me then nor does it now, though my daughter 
likes them.

I know nothing about them other than they are really small.

--R


On 10/20/15 10:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Fellow employee is buying an SLK230 (2001) with 100k on it from a 
neighbor/original owner.

I know nothing about these cars. Anyone out there familiar with them, know any 
of the Achille's heel/warts? I'm figuring hydraulics, since it's a convertible. 
Looks like a fleece oil filter engine, too, but not totally sure of that.

Of course he's asking me about it, so I said I would do some digging.  Looking 
over at BW now, too.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] limousine

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

So Rick,

Is this yours or is it on consignment?

Dan

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> On Oct 20, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow, I know somebody FAMOUS!
> 
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:21 AM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> did y'all understand that we HAVE the limo that's for sale in athens. It's
>> in my field and i assume it's some californic conversion
>> 
>> i can't imagine using it as a press hauler …. if you cut the roof it would
>> really have no strength but it IS a cool image (with the jib crane, of
>> course)
>> 
>> i think it is reinforced and it's probably not as rusty as it looks … we
>> should peel the soft top and prime the roof and it would probably look
>> better
>> 
>> i've never driven it but i think the owner (who paid maybe $4,500 for it
>> in some demented state of confusion) was scared to drive it … it was too
>> long and maybe has a huge turning radius … i don't know.
>> 
>> 
>> thanks,
>> 
>> xx rick
>> Rick Hawkins
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Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT: Liberal Hand-wringing, Painful Introspection, and Existential Crises

[clay via Mercedes]

PNW has a great over population of VW veggie burners.  The greenie weenies 
liked getting farther per gallon, and being able to toss in veggie oils or BioD 
for that extra sunshine blessing.  I am not so sure the nasty smoke was such a 
guilt issue for them, as it was sticking it to the petro people.



clay 

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On Oct 20, 2015, at 9:47 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

> There are only two teams, Predator and Prey ... pick which side you want to
> play on .. hahaha..
> 
> Seems some of those who invested in the TDI for only the uber green theme
> may be playing for the Prey team... Go get'tum tiger ..
> 
> Nothing satisfies the palate of the "green white guilt predator" like a
> tasty meal of veggie fed tree hugger. ;))
> 
> [snark off]
> 
> Grant...
> 
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Actually my '05 isn't really a bottom feeder, once I replace the driver's
>> fender and give it a polish it'll be a pretty nice car.
>> That said I was considering a Craigslist ad, Boston is a pretty liberal
>> place, theres lots of TDIs running around here, no doubt owned by idiot
>> tree huggers.
>> -Curt
>>  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: Rich Thomas 
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 9:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT: Liberal Hand-wringing, Painful
>> Introspection, and Existential Crises
>> 
>> Curt should be all over this whole thing, get a newer TDI and stop
>> fooling with the bottom feeder level dizzels.  He could be a bottom
>> feeder but get an upper level dizzel while helping alleviate green white
>> guilt.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> On 10/20/15 1:22 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Simple... almost all RV's have provision for a receiver hitch to tow a
>>> trailer or a car behind.. so... make the "green swap" for the "illegal
>>> diesel" .. get two of them.. tow one with one to the RV... Rent a flat
>> bed
>>> trailer to haul the "offensive illegal diesel" with the RV.. and convoy
>> the
>>> whole lot to where ever you can flip them.. Live in the RV while you are
>>> doing it..
>>> 
>>> Better yet.. pick up one of the flatbed oilfield semi trailers and
>> trucks,
>>> and haul a whole bunch of "offensive illegal diesels" ...
>>> 
>>> How about a Craigslist add for the area first to "Buy your offensive
>> legal
>>> diesel" ... for scrap of course..
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I like the Prii-swap idea, I wonder if you could drive one and tow
 another, do the same back to Chuck town.
 
 Need to figure out how to work in the abandoned RVs in North Dakota,
>> left
 behind now that the oil boom has gone bust.
 --
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Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT: Liberal Hand-wringing, Painful Introspection, and Existential Crises

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I was reading an article in the paper about this while eating lunch, it 
looks like the lawyers are lining up to "help" the owners of these 
things, with various remedies being considered, including compensation, 
buyback, replacement, etc. depending on what they can sort out in the 
different states/fed level.  Of course the lawyers would get 30% on the 
deal, owners would probably get a coupon to buy another VW, and all this 
would take about 8 years to wind its way along.


I wonder if there might be a market in going to the greenies and 
offering them cash right now for the car to be done with it, they could 
then go buy a Pious and feel better.  If you could get them 
cheap enough you could probably ride out the process and make some money 
off the deal, or just sell them "as is" to others who would be willing 
to ride out the process with some potential of getting something out of 
it.  You'd have to calculate values and such but I bet some $$ could be 
made off it if you wanted to fool with the whole deal.


--R

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Re: [MBZ] limousine

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Wow, I know somebody FAMOUS!

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:21 AM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> did y'all understand that we HAVE the limo that's for sale in athens. It's
> in my field and i assume it's some californic conversion
>
> i can't imagine using it as a press hauler …. if you cut the roof it would
> really have no strength but it IS a cool image (with the jib crane, of
> course)
>
> i think it is reinforced and it's probably not as rusty as it looks … we
> should peel the soft top and prime the roof and it would probably look
> better
>
> i've never driven it but i think the owner (who paid maybe $4,500 for it
> in some demented state of confusion) was scared to drive it … it was too
> long and maybe has a huge turning radius … i don't know.
>
>
> thanks,
>
> xx rick
> Rick Hawkins
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Re: [MBZ] Which Xenon bulb to buy?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Avoid the Chinee stuff, it’s crap.


The $5 D2C that I put into the X5 is 2.5 years old, and
still working just fine.  Amazon.  I have no idea who
made it.  It's the wrong color, 6kK, but I was able to
get it much quicker (and cheaper) than the correct one,
which is still sitting on the shelf.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] How much is this worth?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Less than they're asking, for sure.

A very limited market, and why would you think the owner hasn't already picked 
it clean for his former car?

Dan

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> On Oct 20, 2015, at 5:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1953-Mercedes-300-Adenauer-Parts-Car-No-Reserve-/111
> 802460480?hash=item1a07f22940:g:2acAAOSw9mFWJkri=mtr
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[MBZ] How much is this worth?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

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802460480?hash=item1a07f22940:g:2acAAOSw9mFWJkri=mtr

 

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Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT: Liberal Hand-wringing, Painful Introspection, and Existential Crises

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

How does the M-ship mileage compare to EPA window sticker rating?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 20, 2015 7:35:33 PM EDT, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Maybe there is some issue and I can get my compensation for the ML, or 
>make them give us a new one!  I was frauded!  I'm a victim!  I was 
>violated!  Reparations!  Somebody Do Something!
>
>--R
>
>
>
>On 10/20/15 6:16 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> I'm still waiting for the Mercedes shoe to drop. I'm suspicious of
>the discrepancy between the EPA MPG numbers (low) and actual observed
>numbers (high). Might MB have also planted EPA pollution test defeat
>code, which decreased mileage during the test while decreasing
>pollution?
>>
>> My understanding is that a contributing factor in the case of VW is
>the relatively loose European model for vehicle pollution standards
>testing, which invites some serious "gaming" of the testing to improve
>performance.  If VW decided to play fast and loose "over there" and
>then fell down that slippery slope for the U.S.A. EPA testing, could
>the same have happened to Mercedes?  BMW?
>
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[MBZ] Hey Poos Many added on security features, including bullet proof windows!

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

this is the One you have been Looking for
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5276284423.html

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[MBZ] Hello mercededs is in working order not shifting properly.

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5192009449.html

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Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT: Liberal Hand-wringing, Painful Introspection, and Existential Crises

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

(Reuters) - The U.S. regulator that exposed Volkswagen's rigging of emissions 
tests is investigating more than two dozen diesel car models made by BMW , 
Chrysler, General Motors , Land Rover and Mercedes-Benz to find out whether 
they engaged in similar cheating, the Financial Times reported...snip

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-us-regulator-extends-diesel-emissions-probe-to-other-car-models-ft-2015-10

...
> I'm still waiting for the Mercedes shoe to drop. I'm suspicious of the 
> discrepancy between the EPA MPG numbers (low) and actual observed numbers 
> (high). Might MB have also planted EPA pollution test defeat code, which 
> decreased mileage during the test while decreasing pollution?
> 
> My understanding is that a contributing factor in the case of VW is the 
> relatively loose European model for vehicle pollution standards testing, 
> which invites some serious "gaming" of the testing to improve performance.  
> If VW decided to play fast and loose "over there" and then fell down that 
> slippery slope for the U.S.A. EPA testing, could the same have happened to 
> Mercedes?  BMW?
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Re: [MBZ] Any SLK/R170 Owners Out There?

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Our personal driver, skinny, petite lady,  has a 2001  SLK320, and loves it.  
It’s a well kept example with just under 80K miles on it.  She rejected the 
SLK230, underpowered and tinny sounding.

Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
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[MBZ] CL photog of the week, crackhead Chevguar

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5277305324.html

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Re: [MBZ] limousine

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Rick Hawkins - Mercedes stretch limousine dealer extraordinaire!

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So Rick,
>
> Is this yours or is it on consignment?
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Oct 20, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Wow, I know somebody FAMOUS!
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 1:21 AM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> did y'all understand that we HAVE the limo that's for sale in athens.
> It's
> >> in my field and i assume it's some californic conversion
> >>
> >> i can't imagine using it as a press hauler …. if you cut the roof it
> would
> >> really have no strength but it IS a cool image (with the jib crane, of
> >> course)
> >>
> >> i think it is reinforced and it's probably not as rusty as it looks … we
> >> should peel the soft top and prime the roof and it would probably look
> >> better
> >>
> >> i've never driven it but i think the owner (who paid maybe $4,500 for it
> >> in some demented state of confusion) was scared to drive it … it was too
> >> long and maybe has a huge turning radius … i don't know.
> >>
> >>
> >> thanks,
> >>
> >> xx rick
> >> Rick Hawkins
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[MBZ] VERY SAFE CAR weighs over two tons!

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

   Mercedes R320 BlueTec Diesel


http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5258178630.html

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Re: [MBZ] not Mercedes but Jag

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Pictures?

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 8:32 PM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I had an offer from someone to make a bid on a 98 Jag XJ8. Don't know
> anything about them but this one is supposed to have a new factory motor
> installed by the dealer that forgot to put oil in when doing an oil change
> and locked the original engine. It's only had about 100 miles on it since
> then and less then 100K in all. What think you as to the value of the car.
> Everything works.
>
> Manfred
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Re: [MBZ] it cost 220 on autosone thats why im selling so cheap

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I love the stream of consciousness.  Wonder if the guy talks like this as
well?

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> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5266755744.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hello mercededs is in working order not shifting properly.

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I'd ask for elaboration, e.g., "shifts from D into R at high speeds w/o
warning".

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> http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5192009449.html
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Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT: Liberal Hand-wringing, Painful Introspection, and Existential Crises

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I'm still waiting for the Mercedes shoe to drop. I'm suspicious of the 
discrepancy between the EPA MPG numbers (low) and actual observed numbers 
(high). Might MB have also planted EPA pollution test defeat code, which 
decreased mileage during the test while decreasing pollution?

My understanding is that a contributing factor in the case of VW is the 
relatively loose European model for vehicle pollution standards testing, which 
invites some serious "gaming" of the testing to improve performance.  If VW 
decided to play fast and loose "over there" and then fell down that slippery 
slope for the U.S.A. EPA testing, could the same have happened to Mercedes?  
BMW?
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Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT: Liberal Hand-wringing, Painful Introspection, and Existential Crises

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Maybe there is some issue and I can get my compensation for the ML, or 
make them give us a new one!  I was frauded!  I'm a victim!  I was 
violated!  Reparations!  Somebody Do Something!


--R



On 10/20/15 6:16 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I'm still waiting for the Mercedes shoe to drop. I'm suspicious of the 
discrepancy between the EPA MPG numbers (low) and actual observed numbers 
(high). Might MB have also planted EPA pollution test defeat code, which 
decreased mileage during the test while decreasing pollution?

My understanding is that a contributing factor in the case of VW is the relatively loose European 
model for vehicle pollution standards testing, which invites some serious "gaming" of the 
testing to improve performance.  If VW decided to play fast and loose "over there" and 
then fell down that slippery slope for the U.S.A. EPA testing, could the same have happened to 
Mercedes?  BMW?



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[MBZ] not Mercedes but Jag

[MG via Mercedes]

I had an offer from someone to make a bid on a 98 Jag XJ8. Don't 
know anything about them but this one is supposed to have a new 
factory motor installed by the dealer that forgot to put oil in 
when doing an oil change and locked the original engine. It's 
only had about 100 miles on it since then and less then 100K in 
all. What think you as to the value of the car. Everything works.


Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] CL photog of the week, crackhead Chevguar

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It's a good deal if the string beans on the PS front seat convey.

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[MBZ] it cost 220 on autosone thats why im selling so cheap

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5266755744.html

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Re: [MBZ] VERY SAFE CAR weighs over two tons!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

One (model) year fits all?

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Re: [MBZ] CL photog of the week, crackhead Chevguar

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Those cost extra they were grown in cat poop

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On 10/20/15 8:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

It's a good deal if the string beans on the PS front seat convey.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 8:19 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> wrote:


http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5277305324.html

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Poos Many added on security features, including bullet proof windows!

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:

this is the One you have been Looking for
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5276284423.html


3 pics of seats, but none of driver's seat.
I guess that says high miles.

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Re: [MBZ] Hello mercededs is in working order not shifting properly.

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5192009449.html


My '97 S420 LWB wasn't shifting properly, and it cost about 1/3 of what he's 
asking for that.


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Re: [MBZ] Any SLK/R170 Owners Out There?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Crack head pimped SLKs

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5276756761.html

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5273121027.html

--R



On 10/20/15 7:04 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:

Our personal driver, skinny, petite lady,  has a 2001  SLK320, and loves it.  
It’s a well kept example with just under 80K miles on it.  She rejected the 
SLK230, underpowered and tinny sounding.

Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
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Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT: Liberal Hand-wringing, Painful Introspection, and Existential Crises

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Guys, 
I'm not sure what the fuss is here. I've never purchased a new car including 
back into the 70s which ever met the mileage listed on the sticker. I think VW 
should sue the EPA for restriction of trade or some such nonsense. Either way, 
I agree, the lawyers will end up richer, the government gets more money in 
fines, and the buyer gets hosed. I personally drove a 77 full size Olds Cutlass 
with a 350 V8 on loan from the dealership which got 35 mpg on the highway doing 
70-75 with the AC on in July. I wanted the car, but the dealership said they 
couldn't sell it because as their loaner they'd made mods which didn't meet EPA 
rules/regulations. So, does the EPA / government care about mileage or control? 
Anyway, it's all BS to me and just my .02. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) 
www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) 

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Re: [MBZ] Hey Poos Many added on security features, including bullet proof windows!

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Mitch, 
It may not be high mileage. It may be one of those owners with a big butt who 
"plops" down on the seat instead of getting in easily. 
Just saying 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) 
www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) 

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Re: [MBZ] VERY SAFE CAR weighs over two tons!

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Tempting

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Andrew Strasfogel" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] VERY SAFE CAR weighs over two tons!



One (model) year fits all?

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:



   Mercedes R320 BlueTec Diesel


http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5258178630.html

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Re: [MBZ] Somewhat OT: Liberal Hand-wringing, Painful Introspection, and Existential Crises

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Curt should be all over this whole thing, get a newer TDI and stop 
fooling with the bottom feeder level dizzels.  He could be a bottom 
feeder but get an upper level dizzel while helping alleviate green white 
guilt.


--R

On 10/20/15 1:22 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Simple... almost all RV's have provision for a receiver hitch to tow a
trailer or a car behind.. so... make the "green swap" for the "illegal
diesel" .. get two of them.. tow one with one to the RV... Rent a flat bed
trailer to haul the "offensive illegal diesel" with the RV.. and convoy the
whole lot to where ever you can flip them.. Live in the RV while you are
doing it..

Better yet.. pick up one of the flatbed oilfield semi trailers and trucks,
and haul a whole bunch of "offensive illegal diesels" ...

How about a Craigslist add for the area first to "Buy your offensive legal
diesel" ... for scrap of course..

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I like the Prii-swap idea, I wonder if you could drive one and tow
another, do the same back to Chuck town.

Need to figure out how to work in the abandoned RVs in North Dakota, left
behind now that the oil boom has gone bust.
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