Re: [MBZ] Comments about Possible Purchase

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 21:32:18 -0500 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Larry, buy the youngest car you can, avoid the 90's C & E class.
> Quality, especially electronics, hit a low point.

But you also include many W124s in the avoid area that way.


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] Borked the tilt roof

[clay via Mercedes]

I had the tilt roof up and then, being a dork, tried to close it by sliding it 
back instead of making it down.  Now it is not moving.  Motor makes noise.  
Roof rear  is not level.  minor motion when button is activated, but it is all 
jammed up somewhere.  How do I go about unbuggering this mess?  1986 SDL, so 
same so W201 and W124.   I looked online and there was a link to Okiebenz, but 
it came back 404

clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

> Kaleb wrote:
> > ...From watching the news...
> 
> Turn off the TV - you will be sucked in to the abyss of sorcery.
> The other shoe has not dropped yet.  There will be more to come.
> Maybe?  They can't give up this graciously.
> mao
~~~
Subliminal perception has a controversial history:

"The U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) received complaints of a 
television station using subliminal messages in 1974. This was the first new 
case since the original in the 1950's. The FCC responded by issuing a public 
notice, which stated their official position- "We believe that the use of 
subliminal perception is inconsistent with the obligations of a [broadcast] 
licensee, and therefore we take this occasion to make clear that broadcasts 
employing such techniques are contrary to the public interest. Whether 
effective or not, such broadcasts clearly are intended to be deceptive."

http://www.umich.edu/~onebook/pages/tablepages/history.html

~~~
"Subliminal stimuli...are any sensory stimuli below an individual's threshold 
for conscious perception. A recent review of functional magnetic resonance 
imaging (fMRI) studies shows that subliminal stimuli activate specific regions 
of the brain despite participants being unaware.[2] Visual stimuli may be 
quickly flashed before an individual can process them, or flashed and then 
masked, thereby interrupting the processing. Audio stimuli may be played below 
audible volumes or masked by other stimulisnip

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subliminal_stimuli#Effectiveness




---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Comments about Possible Purchase

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Larry, buy the youngest car you can, avoid the 90's C & E class.  Quality, 
especially electronics, hit a low point.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Comments about Possible Purchase

[Larry T via Mercedes]

BTW Guys, it is a 4Matic. , since I have started to include non-diesels, I just 
found another local E320 with only 96K miles on it. It's a 1998 in Glacier 
White. Mitch's comments make it sound like the 4Matic did not suffer the rusty 
spring perches like the non-4Matic, correct? This one is a year older with a 
asking price of $4950. It looks like it was either detailed or well cared for. 
I guess I'll find out how willing they are to accept a lower offer when I take 
a look in person. 
Thanks for the help! 
LarryT 

- Original Message -

From: "Larry T via Mercedes"  
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: "Larry T"  
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 5:47:15 PM 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Comments about Possible Purchase 

Thanks Mitch - Exactly the kind of reply I hoped for. 
Sincerely, 
LarryT 

- Original Message - 

From: "Mitch Haley via Mercedes"  
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"  
Cc: "Mitch Haley"  
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 5:34:03 PM 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Comments about Possible Purchase 

Facelifted 2000-2003 S210. Lower ground clearance than the 1998-1999. Figure 
the 
conductor plate in the transmission won't last much longer if it's still 
original, and IIRC you can't buy them for $175 any more. 
Just about anything that puts it in a limp home mode (like any transmission 
electrical issue) will require special computer tools to reset the memory and 
take it out of limp mode. Clearing the OBDII codes won't help. 

If it's 4matic, they go OK in the snow but they're a bit tail-happy if you 
goose 
the throttle at low speeds. If it's not 4matic, then beware of rusty front 
spring perches. In fact, after 15 years, beware of rust in all forms, for $4500 
it should be in mint condition. 



> On November 10, 2016 at 4:46 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> Howdy. 
> After searching for more than a year for a Diesel powered MB newer 
> than what we have and I hoping to get the group thoughts on a 2001 MB 
> Wagon E320 with 114K miles for $4500. listed as a "Slow Seller" so 
> perhaps I can get it for less. It looks perfect cosmetically and the 
> engine compartment has been kept very clean - or the seller cleaned it 
> nicely. Anyway, I always look for a car that has been kept clean as a 
> indication of the condition. 
> 
> Anyway, I'll probably look at it in person this weekend. Would 
> like to hear what ya'll think of this? 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> LarryT 
> 
> 81 300D 
> 
> ___ 
> http://www.okiebenz.com 
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: 
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 
> 

___ 
http://www.okiebenz.com 

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: 
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 


___ 
http://www.okiebenz.com 

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: 
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Comments about Possible Purchase

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I never owned a car I could operate in limp mode. What have I been
missing...

On Nov 10, 2016 5:47 PM, "Larry T via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Thanks Mitch - Exactly the kind of reply I hoped for.
> Sincerely,
> LarryT
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: "Mitch Haley" 
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 5:34:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Comments about Possible Purchase
>
> Facelifted 2000-2003 S210. Lower ground clearance than the 1998-1999.
> Figure the
> conductor plate in the transmission won't last much longer if it's still
> original, and IIRC you can't buy them for $175 any more.
> Just about anything that puts it in a limp home mode (like any transmission
> electrical issue) will require special computer tools to reset the memory
> and
> take it out of limp mode. Clearing the OBDII codes won't help.
>
> If it's 4matic, they go OK in the snow but they're a bit tail-happy if you
> goose
> the throttle at low speeds. If it's not 4matic, then beware of rusty front
> spring perches. In fact, after 15 years, beware of rust in all forms, for
> $4500
> it should be in mint condition.
>
>
>
> > On November 10, 2016 at 4:46 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Howdy.
> > After searching for more than a year for a Diesel powered MB newer
> > than what we have and I hoping to get the group thoughts on a 2001 MB
> > Wagon E320 with 114K miles for $4500. listed as a "Slow Seller" so
> > perhaps I can get it for less. It looks perfect cosmetically and the
> > engine compartment has been kept very clean - or the seller cleaned it
> > nicely. Anyway, I always look for a car that has been kept clean as a
> > indication of the condition.
> >
> > Anyway, I'll probably look at it in person this weekend. Would
> > like to hear what ya'll think of this?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > LarryT
> >
> > 81 300D
> >
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Trick question!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

And good on you in sticking up for the local environment.

On Nov 10, 2016 5:52 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> They both trash-talked the other in the campaign, which is pretty much
> what is to be expected in a high-stakes political campaign. Now that it is
> time to get down to business, they can talk business whatever they feel
> about each other.  Kinda like many of my friends who were big H-> fans.
> While I loathe that woman, I respect their opinions whether I agree with
> them or not, because they are my friends.  I had no particular feelings
> regarding DT, so while I guess my preferred outcome came out, I find the
> whole thing somewhat distasteful.  But I hope DT can get himself organized
> a try to do a halfway decent job.
>
> I'm sure there will be weeping wailing and gnashing of teeth from the
> opposition, as there has been the last 8, 16, 24, 32 years and longer.
> Welcome to America!
>
> On another aspect, I have pretty much zero effect on anything at a
> national level so I am concentrating my energies on our local issues and
> trying to affect those.  It seems to be working.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 11/10/16 1:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> This is a direct quote from Donald Trump.
>>
>> "President-elect Donald Trump called President Barack Obama a "very good
>> man" as the two long-time antagonists met in the Oval Office in a ritual
>> epitomizing the peaceful transfer of power.
>>
>> Obama told reporters that if Trump succeeds, America succeeds at a White
>> House meeting that encapsulated the stunning political events of the last
>> few days since the President-elect's remarkable election victory."
>>
>> Watch the video - should makes us all feel good to be Americans.
>>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/donald-trump-obama-pa
>> ul-ryan-washington/index.html
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 1:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Define the meaning of "IS"
>>>
>>> Define the meaning of "Good"
>>>
>>> Define how Obama qualifies as actually being a "Man"
>>>
>>> {Using the "Clinton logical argument principles" here}
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> True or false - The President [Obama] is a very good man.
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


 ___
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>>
>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>>
>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>>
>>
> --
> --FT
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Trick question!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

They both trash-talked the other in the campaign, which is pretty much 
what is to be expected in a high-stakes political campaign. Now that it 
is time to get down to business, they can talk business whatever they 
feel about each other.  Kinda like many of my friends who were big H-> 
fans.  While I loathe that woman, I respect their opinions whether I 
agree with them or not, because they are my friends.  I had no 
particular feelings regarding DT, so while I guess my preferred outcome 
came out, I find the whole thing somewhat distasteful.  But I hope DT 
can get himself organized a try to do a halfway decent job.


I'm sure there will be weeping wailing and gnashing of teeth from the 
opposition, as there has been the last 8, 16, 24, 32 years and longer.  
Welcome to America!


On another aspect, I have pretty much zero effect on anything at a 
national level so I am concentrating my energies on our local issues and 
trying to affect those.  It seems to be working.


--FT


On 11/10/16 1:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

This is a direct quote from Donald Trump.

"President-elect Donald Trump called President Barack Obama a "very good
man" as the two long-time antagonists met in the Oval Office in a ritual
epitomizing the peaceful transfer of power.

Obama told reporters that if Trump succeeds, America succeeds at a White
House meeting that encapsulated the stunning political events of the last
few days since the President-elect's remarkable election victory."

Watch the video - should makes us all feel good to be Americans.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/donald-trump-obama-paul-ryan-washington/index.html

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 1:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:


Define the meaning of "IS"

Define the meaning of "Good"

Define how Obama qualifies as actually being a "Man"

{Using the "Clinton logical argument principles" here}



On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


True or false - The President [Obama] is a very good man.
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



--
--FT


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Comments about Possible Purchase

[Larry T via Mercedes]

Thanks Mitch - Exactly the kind of reply I hoped for. 
Sincerely, 
LarryT 

- Original Message -

From: "Mitch Haley via Mercedes"  
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"  
Cc: "Mitch Haley"  
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 5:34:03 PM 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Comments about Possible Purchase 

Facelifted 2000-2003 S210. Lower ground clearance than the 1998-1999. Figure 
the 
conductor plate in the transmission won't last much longer if it's still 
original, and IIRC you can't buy them for $175 any more. 
Just about anything that puts it in a limp home mode (like any transmission 
electrical issue) will require special computer tools to reset the memory and 
take it out of limp mode. Clearing the OBDII codes won't help. 

If it's 4matic, they go OK in the snow but they're a bit tail-happy if you 
goose 
the throttle at low speeds. If it's not 4matic, then beware of rusty front 
spring perches. In fact, after 15 years, beware of rust in all forms, for $4500 
it should be in mint condition. 



> On November 10, 2016 at 4:46 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> Howdy. 
> After searching for more than a year for a Diesel powered MB newer 
> than what we have and I hoping to get the group thoughts on a 2001 MB 
> Wagon E320 with 114K miles for $4500. listed as a "Slow Seller" so 
> perhaps I can get it for less. It looks perfect cosmetically and the 
> engine compartment has been kept very clean - or the seller cleaned it 
> nicely. Anyway, I always look for a car that has been kept clean as a 
> indication of the condition. 
> 
> Anyway, I'll probably look at it in person this weekend. Would 
> like to hear what ya'll think of this? 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> LarryT 
> 
> 81 300D 
> 
> ___ 
> http://www.okiebenz.com 
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: 
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 
> 

___ 
http://www.okiebenz.com 

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: 
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Comments about Possible Purchase

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Facelifted 2000-2003 S210. Lower ground clearance than the 1998-1999. Figure the
conductor plate in the transmission won't last much longer if it's still
original, and IIRC you can't buy them for $175 any more. 
Just about anything that puts it in a limp home mode (like any transmission
electrical issue) will require special computer tools to reset the memory and
take it out of limp mode. Clearing the OBDII codes won't help. 

If it's 4matic, they go OK in the snow but they're a bit tail-happy if you goose
the throttle at low speeds. If it's not 4matic, then beware of rusty front
spring perches. In fact, after 15 years, beware of rust in all forms, for $4500
it should be in mint condition. 



> On November 10, 2016 at 4:46 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Howdy.
>  After searching for more than a year for a Diesel powered MB newer 
> than what we have and I hoping to get the group thoughts on a 2001 MB 
> Wagon E320 with 114K miles for $4500. listed as a "Slow Seller" so 
> perhaps I can get it for less. It looks perfect cosmetically and the 
> engine compartment has been kept very clean - or the seller cleaned it 
> nicely. Anyway, I always look for a car that has been kept clean as a 
> indication of the condition.
> 
>  Anyway, I'll probably look at it in person this weekend.  Would 
> like to hear what ya'll think of this?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> LarryT
> 
> 81 300D
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] Comments about Possible Purchase

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

Howdy.
After searching for more than a year for a Diesel powered MB newer 
than what we have and I hoping to get the group thoughts on a 2001 MB 
Wagon E320 with 114K miles for $4500. listed as a "Slow Seller" so 
perhaps I can get it for less. It looks perfect cosmetically and the 
engine compartment has been kept very clean - or the seller cleaned it 
nicely. Anyway, I always look for a car that has been kept clean as a 
indication of the condition.


Anyway, I'll probably look at it in person this weekend.  Would 
like to hear what ya'll think of this?


Thanks

LarryT

81 300D

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

He died of happiness.

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Gerry wrote:
> > Where has Curlie been while all this was going on? He should have been
> here in the middle of it.
>
> Banned... probably.
> Dan? Kaleb? Anyone?
> mao
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Gerry wrote:
> Where has Curlie been while all this was going on? He should have been here 
> in the middle of it.

Banned... probably.
Dan? Kaleb? Anyone?
mao

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Trick question!

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Andrew wrote:
> True or false - The President [Obama] is a very good man.

Include Jimmy Carter in this also.  Also John Kennedy.  Also Bobbie Kennedy.
Time adds to what we knew as the time these men happened, maybe?
Jimmy, JFK, RFK really are good men, after time passes.
In that perspective, True - The President [Obama] is a very good man.
No... ACA and progressive ideals don't seem sensible or valuable,
but... the man seems very good, separating the politic from the man.
Face it - the man is not the man he was 8-years ago anymore - he was
made to be a pawn of Control since the election 8 years ago, and to
think DJT is not a pawn of Control is foolish.  We really are
ignorant.
mao

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Trump

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Craig wrote:
> Those who will not learn from history are condemned to repeat its
> mistakes.

History has been malformed, twisted and constitutes bad indoctrination.
i.e. civil war, ww1, ww2, 911, moon...oops, had to slip that in...
mao

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Where has Curlie been while all this was going on? He should have been here in 
the middle of it.
Gerry

"Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> There were riots and protests all over the country. From watching the news 
> the reporters would try to get them to talk to them and all they would do is 
> yell vulgarities about trump, which made it on live television. They got this 
> one kid to talk and it started saying that he felt like trump did not 
> represent him then all the sudden yelled trump is a p and ran off, 
> very very immature. In fact all of the protesters I saw appeared to be in 
> that early to mid 30s and younger group.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Nov 9, 2016, at 11:46 PM, clay via Mercedes  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Maybe it was just a bunch of spineless donkey dorks who were too afraid to 
> > stand up to H-> CCF and tell her nobody wanted her to hold office.  The 
> > last time, people chose the lesser evil, a black muslim from Kenya.  She 
> > proclaimed it was her given right to be the donkey choice.  No idea what 
> > manner of arm twisting, lies, of bribes CCF paid out to keep the worthy 
> > candidates out of the race.  Bernie was too out there to get purchased 
> > until the end.
> > 
> > That Donny could out fox the spineless elephants who were not willing to 
> > step outside the box and call a spade a spade on all the issues facing the 
> > nation, just shows how out of touch the “leadership” and people of the 
> > swamp became.
> > 
> > Seattle was so outraged, that there were many rioting bleeding hearts last 
> > night.  They could not go quietly into the night.  This morning the 
> > commuters were distraught enough to try to end it all in traffic.  Lots of 
> > messed up commute with greater than normal accidents.  The liberal bubble 
> > burst and reality smacked these people in the face.
> > 
> > clay
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Nov 9, 2016, at 7:26 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/11/09/trump-triumphs-medias-primal-scream-is-heard-round-world.html
> >> 
> >> A nearly unanimous media failed to carry the unpopular Hillary across the
> >> finish line. Once again, America rejected the liberal Democrat. Advil set
> >> the tone early with a comment: “Politics giving you a #migraine? Advil®
> >> Migraine is the best candidate for pain relief.” CNN commentator David
> >> Axelrod called it a “primal scream.” ABC’s Terry Moran called it “a
> >> rejection of the neoliberal world order that has been the consensus
> >> around the world.” CNN commentator and former Obama green jobs czar Van
> >> Jones called the election a “White-lash against a changing country.”

---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Kaleb wrote:
> ...From watching the news...

Turn off the TV - you will be sucked in to the abyss of sorcery.
The other shoe has not dropped yet.  There will be more to come.
Maybe?  They can't give up this graciously.
mao

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Trick question!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

This is a direct quote from Donald Trump.

"President-elect Donald Trump called President Barack Obama a "very good
man" as the two long-time antagonists met in the Oval Office in a ritual
epitomizing the peaceful transfer of power.

Obama told reporters that if Trump succeeds, America succeeds at a White
House meeting that encapsulated the stunning political events of the last
few days since the President-elect's remarkable election victory."

Watch the video - should makes us all feel good to be Americans.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/donald-trump-obama-paul-ryan-washington/index.html

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 1:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Define the meaning of "IS"
>
> Define the meaning of "Good"
>
> Define how Obama qualifies as actually being a "Man"
>
> {Using the "Clinton logical argument principles" here}
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > True or false - The President [Obama] is a very good man.
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
> >
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Trick question!

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Define the meaning of "IS"

Define the meaning of "Good"

Define how Obama qualifies as actually being a "Man"

{Using the "Clinton logical argument principles" here}



On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> True or false - The President [Obama] is a very good man.
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

[MBZ] Trick question!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

True or false - The President [Obama] is a very good man.
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Trump

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Amen Craig

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 10, 2016, at 11:02 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 07:54:22 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> Bernie is a communist 
> 
> And, while not (as) corrupt as H->, would have done the United States no
> good.
> 
> Those who will not learn from history are condemned to repeat its
> mistakes.
> 
> Unfortunately, there are many who have been prevented to learn from
> history.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 9, 2016, at 10:46 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Agreed - unfortunately, Bernie burned out.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I think that if the D's had run just about _anybody_ but that witch
 they would have won.  But she just puts plenty of people off,
 including me. High creep factor.
 
 Fortunately she's had "her turn", and so we're probably free of her
 from now on.  T's big mouth could get himself impeached, or he could
 get bored and quit...
 
 -- Jim
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> OK Don
>>> 
>>> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and
>>> many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The
>>> few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the
>>> electric fence for themselves."
>>> 
>>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
>>> ___
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>> 
>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>> 
>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> --
> Present: '82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   285 kmi (Still need to fix leaking
>oil pressure gauge and do
>something about the failed
>hood paint and attend to the
>headlight switch -- and now I
>need to do something about the
>broken left rear trailing arm)
> '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV,
> the Big Red Van)
> 
> Past:'95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
> '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
> '86 190E/2.3
> '72 220/8
> '64 190Dc  Emma
> '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Trump

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 07:54:22 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> Bernie is a communist 

And, while not (as) corrupt as H->, would have done the United States no
good.

Those who will not learn from history are condemned to repeat its
mistakes.

Unfortunately, there are many who have been prevented to learn from
history.


Craig

> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Nov 9, 2016, at 10:46 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Agreed - unfortunately, Bernie burned out.
> > 
> > On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> I think that if the D's had run just about _anybody_ but that witch
> >> they would have won.  But she just puts plenty of people off,
> >> including me. High creep factor.
> >> 
> >> Fortunately she's had "her turn", and so we're probably free of her
> >> from now on.  T's big mouth could get himself impeached, or he could
> >> get bored and quit...
> >> 
> >> -- Jim
> >> ___
> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >> 
> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >> 
> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > OK Don
> > 
> > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and
> > many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> > 
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The
> > few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the
> > electric fence for themselves."
> > 
> > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> > 
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> > 
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> > 
> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 
> 




Craig

--
Present: '82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   285 kmi (Still need to fix leaking
oil pressure gauge and do
something about the failed
hood paint and attend to the
headlight switch -- and now I
need to do something about the
broken left rear trailing arm)
 '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV,
 the Big Red Van)

Past:'95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
 '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
 '86 190E/2.3
 '72 220/8
 '64 190Dc  Emma
 '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Winning

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 10/11/2016 7:25 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Dear anti Trump celebrities, here's how to get to Canada:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zzNmcrBYpM

___


We have enough left leaning people already.

RB

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

There were riots and protests all over the country. From watching the news the 
reporters would try to get them to talk to them and all they would do is yell 
vulgarities about trump, which made it on live television. They got this one 
kid to talk and it started saying that he felt like trump did not represent him 
then all the sudden yelled trump is a p and ran off, very very 
immature. In fact all of the protesters I saw appeared to be in that early to 
mid 30s and younger group.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 9, 2016, at 11:46 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Maybe it was just a bunch of spineless donkey dorks who were too afraid to 
> stand up to H-> CCF and tell her nobody wanted her to hold office.  The last 
> time, people chose the lesser evil, a black muslim from Kenya.  She 
> proclaimed it was her given right to be the donkey choice.  No idea what 
> manner of arm twisting, lies, of bribes CCF paid out to keep the worthy 
> candidates out of the race.  Bernie was too out there to get purchased until 
> the end.
> 
> That Donny could out fox the spineless elephants who were not willing to step 
> outside the box and call a spade a spade on all the issues facing the nation, 
> just shows how out of touch the “leadership” and people of the swamp became.
> 
> Seattle was so outraged, that there were many rioting bleeding hearts last 
> night.  They could not go quietly into the night.  This morning the commuters 
> were distraught enough to try to end it all in traffic.  Lots of messed up 
> commute with greater than normal accidents.  The liberal bubble burst and 
> reality smacked these people in the face.
> 
> clay
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 9, 2016, at 7:26 AM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/11/09/trump-triumphs-medias-primal-scream-is-heard-round-world.html
>> 
>> A nearly unanimous media failed to carry the unpopular Hillary across the
>> finish line. Once again, America rejected the liberal Democrat. Advil set
>> the tone early with a comment: “Politics giving you a #migraine? Advil®
>> Migraine is the best candidate for pain relief.” CNN commentator David
>> Axelrod called it a “primal scream.” ABC’s Terry Moran called it “a
>> rejection of the neoliberal world order that has been the consensus
>> around the world.” CNN commentator and former Obama green jobs czar Van
>> Jones called the election a “White-lash against a changing country.”
>> 
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Trump

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Bernie is a communist 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 9, 2016, at 10:46 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Agreed - unfortunately, Bernie burned out.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I think that if the D's had run just about _anybody_ but that witch they
>> would have won.  But she just puts plenty of people off, including me.
>> High creep factor.
>> 
>> Fortunately she's had "her turn", and so we're probably free of her from
>> now on.  T's big mouth could get himself impeached, or he could get bored
>> and quit...
>> 
>> -- Jim
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Winning

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Dear anti Trump celebrities, here's how to get to Canada:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zzNmcrBYpM

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Winning

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Crass comments, like "hey illegals, go ahead and vote for Hillary, if you vote
then by definition you're a citizen, so there's no reason for INS to come
looking for you when you vote"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfgEvgVC6Qs

> On November 10, 2016 at 12:54 AM clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Obummer kind of stepped in a steaming pile of manure by not being able to keep
> his flapping lips together.Just be presidential and stay out of the mess,
> but he had to make some really crass comments.  I would not be surprised if he
> finds his security detail severely limited in the next budget cycle.  I do not
> seem to recall any Bull pucky coming from the White House when W was handing
> it over.  Or comments about what a scuzz ball the incoming commander was.  
> 
> Since Donny will be taking great efforts to dismantle the Obummer disaster
> years swiftly, There will probably be no need to blame BHO once his “legacy”
> is wipe clean
> 
> clay
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Nov 9, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Well, Obama blamed Bush for the last 8 years, so I guess The Don can adopt
> > the same approach.  Then the next one along can do the same...  you know,
> > politics.
> > 
> > As I told my very diverse groups of agitator friends this morning, whatever
> > our views on yesterday's larger world events, we are all still united around
> > our love for our homes and each other, and that, ultimately, is what matters
> > in our journey.
> > 
> > --R
> > 
> > 
> > On 11/9/16 11:15 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Now that the R's own the house, senate, and white house, who are they going
> >> to blame?
> >> 
> >> On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 7:25 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> We did not Make America Great Again, we merely decided its downfall is no
> >>> longer
> >>> guaranteed.
> >>> 
> >>> To me, the really great news is that if Trump keeps one promise, and a
> >>> Republican majority Senate doesn't ruin it for him, I get to die of
> >>> natural
> >>> causes or at worst accident, rather than as somebody too old to fight well
> >>> in a
> >>> civil war of Hillary's making.
> >>> 
> >>> Hillary told us that parts of the Bill of Rights meant "Power of the
> >>> Government"
> >>> in places where it said "Right of the People", Stephen Breyer (who was
> >>> among the
> >>> nine who voted for the individual right in DC v Heller) said she was
> >>> right, and
> >>> she promised to stack the Supreme Court with more Justices who would make
> >>> it
> >>> happen.
> >>> 
> >>> Trump has released a list of possible judicial nominees, and promised to
> >>> choose
> >>> Justices from that list. If that happens, the Supreme Court will continue
> >>> to
> >>> defend the Constitution for the foreseeable future, and we won't be
> >>> fighting a
> >>> civil war to reinstate that Constitution in my lifetime (I'm already in my
> >>> 50s)
> >>> if it's never overthrown by the likes of Breyer.
> >>> 
> >>> Mitch.
> >>> 
> >>> ___
> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>> 
> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>> 
> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> > 
> > -- 
> > --FT
> > 
> > 
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> > 
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> > 
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> > 
> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com