[MBZ] Quick Flip For Mitch

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-benz-e320-4-matic/6371032484.html

Rick
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[MBZ] Do R129s have spring perches?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

https://www.copart.com/lot/43521727

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

If Dan buys a finnie, he won't have money for extra pistols...
https://www.copart.com/lot/36651357

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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I should buy this

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

why?

unless you mean to part it out and hope to make a little cash on the parts that 
may not just crumble upon touch

clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

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1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
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1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
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> On Nov 8, 2017, at 5:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 2003 Mercedes
> 
> https://columbiamo.craigslist.org/cto/d/2003-mercedes-s600-v12-loaded/6378675301.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> some people have a reverence for Glocks that is like no other.

...The brand has quite a reputation for reliability.
>

Glock was early into the 'appliance' pistol market, and is a high-quality
product.  They are extremely reliable and durable, and an excellent choice
for a utilitarian piece.  I think they're incredibly bland, but they are an
excellent choice where functionality is paramount.  My favorite story is
about the pistol that was lost by a diver in the ocean, and recovered a
year later on another dive.  After a thorough cleaning it was completely
functional, and undamaged by its year in sea water!

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

42

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> How old are you? I had my stents put in 8 years ago, just before my 33rd 
> birthday...
> 
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 5:56 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc
> 
> So you remember the story a while back where I went to ER because it felt 
> like I had skipped heart beats, tightness in the chest etc. That prompted a 
> referral to cardiologist. They put me on a monitor for a couple of days that 
> I wore around, which found noting. Of course all of this led me to cutting 
> carbs to lose weight. So anyway they then set me up for a stress test which I 
> did last week. Today was my follow up. It came up positive. There was some 
> irregularity which long story short, I have any appointment next week for a 
> cath, or whatever they call it. The will see if they find any blockage and 
> fix it if they do. This is just great. I am way too young to be having these 
> sorts of problems. 
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Re: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

How old are you? I had my stents put in 8 years ago, just before my 33rd 
birthday...

-Curt


  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 5:56 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc
   
So you remember the story a while back where I went to ER because it felt like 
I had skipped heart beats, tightness in the chest etc. That prompted a referral 
to cardiologist. They put me on a monitor for a couple of days that I wore 
around, which found noting. Of course all of this led me to cutting carbs to 
lose weight. So anyway they then set me up for a stress test which I did last 
week. Today was my follow up. It came up positive. There was some irregularity 
which long story short, I have any appointment next week for a cath, or 
whatever they call it. The will see if they find any blockage and fix it if 
they do. This is just great. I am way too young to be having these sorts of 
problems. 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I should buy this

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Hahaha

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2017, at 8:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You want to buy a V12 and you’re worried about heart problems?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Lol. I would much rather buy a couple of cheap cars but still have not seen 
>> pics.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 7:51 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes. Give it to your wife. It’s all hers. 
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 8, 2017, at 8:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 2003 Mercedes
 
 https://columbiamo.craigslist.org/cto/d/2003-mercedes-s600-v12-loaded/6378675301.html
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I should buy this

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You want to buy a V12 and you’re worried about heart problems?

-D



> On Nov 8, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Lol. I would much rather buy a couple of cheap cars but still have not seen 
> pics.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 7:51 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes. Give it to your wife. It’s all hers. 
>> 
>> --R
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 8:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 2003 Mercedes
>>> 
>>> https://columbiamo.craigslist.org/cto/d/2003-mercedes-s600-v12-loaded/6378675301.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I should buy this

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Lol. I would much rather buy a couple of cheap cars but still have not seen 
pics.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2017, at 7:51 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes. Give it to your wife. It’s all hers. 
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 8:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 2003 Mercedes
>> 
>> https://columbiamo.craigslist.org/cto/d/2003-mercedes-s600-v12-loaded/6378675301.html
>> 
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I should buy this

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yes. Give it to your wife. It’s all hers. 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2017, at 8:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> 2003 Mercedes
> 
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[MBZ] Good news for all us cheepcheep b**+*+

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

http://www.postandcourier.com/business/harbor-freight-to-expand-dillon-distribution-site-next-to-charleston/article_6a019d46-c3c7-11e7-82f3-57aa5a052581.html

--R
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[MBZ] Maybe I should buy this

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

2003 Mercedes

https://columbiamo.craigslist.org/cto/d/2003-mercedes-s600-v12-loaded/6378675301.html


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Rick wrote:
> If exercise was a prescription drug with a patent, it would probably be 
> quashed...

That sounds like hemp a century ago.  Someone said it was 30-percent
of the economy.  A substantial player in our economy for paper,
fabric, etc.  Then maryjane was the name applied to hemp and it became
illegal.  Take away 30-percent of an economy sounds good for somebody,
not the economy.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Ignore it and it will go away?  not likely, more like ignore it and have a big 
infarction instead.

Far better to get the catherization done, you'll get one anyway when you have 
that heart attack and have a lot more heart muscle damage.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Kaleb wrote:
> I should just ignore it and it will go away.

Perhaps, you haven't tried.  Low Carb is a good start.
Hopefully you do not believe baloney from anyone.
And how do we know your physician is not speaking baloney?
Your physician is like you - someone pays him, i.e. BigPharma, etc.
Your physician does like you do - you and your physician do what the
boss says or the paycheck does not arrive.
You are led to believe that ignoring it will end in tragedy for you
and R.  Not necessarily.
Med-Industrial-Complex has us buffaloed to fear ignoring them.  Try
ignoring them - you might like it.  After all, you like DIY but the
dealers want you afraid of failure if you do not let them maintain the
automobile.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[MG via Mercedes]

Ah yes I missed that one. That is very close. Mine however had 
the top surface of the scroll work bright polished which set it 
off very nicely from the background. It was probably a few years 
older back from the late 70's or early 80's.


Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On November 8, 2017 at 1:12 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:


That is the kind but none of them have the fancy scroll work on 
the slide.


This isn't it?
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/714282678

(I missed the fact that the price got up to $385 by bidding and wasn't the 
starting bid)

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[MBZ] Crazy as a BAT?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

E300 gas, hit left side, 6000 miles, salvage title, pre-auction bidding puts it 
at 30k, reserve not met. 
https://www.copart.com/lot/42250717

1. I don't think it was worth $59k before it was wrecked. 
2. If the cost to repair puts it in the 'total me' category, I don't think it's 
worth $30k now.

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Re: [MBZ] PS Bracket

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

Thanks Mitch!


On 11/08/2017 12:39 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Car-Part.com has W124 Vickers for $25 and up, ZF for $35 and up.
Shouldn't be impossible to find somebody to ship one to you for $50-60.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Flying Taxis, Batman!

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On November 8, 2017 at 4:25 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> The taxi, meant to save time by sailing over traffic,

Unless there's only going to be one per city, it won't be flying over traffic, 
it'll be traffic. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Holy Flying Taxis, Batman!

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Better save this one for April 1st.

RB

On 08/11/2017 3:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

NASA, Uber set sights on flying taxisPublished: Wednesday, November 8, 2017

Imagine hailing an Uber that flies at 200 mph at low altitudes.

The ride-hailing company hopes to make that a reality by 2023. It unveiled
an artist's concept of the vehicle today at a technology conference in
Portugal.

The taxi, meant to save time by sailing over traffic, would run on
batteries and contain fixed rotors and wings (AP/*New York Times*
,
Nov. 8).

The company also said today that it has signed a deal with NASA to work on
air control software to manage the taxi's routes.

Uber says this is NASA's first formal services contract for low-altitude
airspace, as opposed to outer space.

The company plans to start testing four-passenger flying taxis in Los
Angeles in 2020, said Chief Product Officer Jeff Holden.

"There is a reality that Uber has grown up a lot as a company," Holden said
today ahead of the conference.

The company hopes to introduce flying taxi services between cities in 2023
and is attempting to secure regulatory approvals from aviation officials in
the Unit
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Re: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Old Age is Not for Sissies. A Witty Look at Ageing. Author: Lois Kaufman
Obtainable at Amazon

OK Don wrote:
> Sorry to hear about the "troubles". To quote somebody:
> "Old age is not for the faint of heart." - Welcome to my world . . .
> 
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 7:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > So I only ended up with 1 prescription. It’s metoprolol tartrate, whatever
> > that is. Also 81mg aspirin once a day.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Nov 7, 2017, at 6:24 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yup, you'll be on a beta blocker and something like Lisinopril ---
> > reduces blood pressure, helps circulation by blocking angiotension and
> > dilating arteries a bit.  Same stuff I'm on, standard treatment.
> > >
> > > If you've been on statins, likely you an expect some blockage.  Good
> > news is that you will feel MUCH better if they put some stents in.
> > >
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
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[MBZ] OT: Holy Flying Taxis, Batman!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

NASA, Uber set sights on flying taxisPublished: Wednesday, November 8, 2017

Imagine hailing an Uber that flies at 200 mph at low altitudes.

The ride-hailing company hopes to make that a reality by 2023. It unveiled
an artist's concept of the vehicle today at a technology conference in
Portugal.

The taxi, meant to save time by sailing over traffic, would run on
batteries and contain fixed rotors and wings (AP/*New York Times*
,
Nov. 8).

The company also said today that it has signed a deal with NASA to work on
air control software to manage the taxi's routes.

Uber says this is NASA's first formal services contract for low-altitude
airspace, as opposed to outer space.

The company plans to start testing four-passenger flying taxis in Los
Angeles in 2020, said Chief Product Officer Jeff Holden.

"There is a reality that Uber has grown up a lot as a company," Holden said
today ahead of the conference.

The company hopes to introduce flying taxi services between cities in 2023
and is attempting to secure regulatory approvals from aviation officials in
the Unit
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On November 8, 2017 at 1:12 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> That is the kind but none of them have the fancy scroll work on 
> the slide.

This isn't it?
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/714282678

(I missed the fact that the price got up to $385 by bidding and wasn't the 
starting bid)

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[MBZ] OT: Cabela's Hometown Heros Celebration

[Craig via Mercedes]

FYI.

November 9 - 12 for Active Military, Veterans, Law Enforcement,
Firefighters, and EMS Personnel (subject to some conditions and 
not to be combined with other offers):

Take an extra 10% off everything in the store, including sale and
clearance items (excludes firearms).

or

5% off any in-stock firearm from any Cabela's U.S. store.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Suggest anyone interested could attend a gun show nearby and take the
opportunity to handle a very wide variety of pistols to see "what fits"
your individual hand and finger reach. Once you get a feel for "what might
fit" call around for a local gun range that has pistols for rent and try
your selections in actual use for a while, at the range. Run a box of ammo
through each selection to get the full experience of how it works "just for
you".

Then make a decision. Pistol selection is sort of on the same scale as
picking a wife [or next ex-wife, as a friend says]. It is not "one size
fits all" regardless of the following a particular maker may have.

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On November 8, 2017 at 12:39 PM Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm sure it's no difference than our affinity for Mercedes, but since
> I've become more aware of the pistol world, it seems like some people have
> a reverence for Glocks that is like no other.
>
> There are indeed Glock snobs out there. The brand has quite a reputation
> for reliability.
> There's enough different models that if one wants to use only Glock
> pistols they don't have to compromise much for any particular use.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[MG via Mercedes]

That is the kind but none of them have the fancy scroll work on 
the slide.


Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On November 8, 2017 at 10:05 AM MG via Mercedes  wrote:


A few years ago I gave my #1 daughter a nice little .380 Llama 
that I had. She loves it. Looks like a miniature version of the 
1911 with the grip safety and all. Had some very nice scroll work 
on the slide.


You see them on Gunbroker for $400 a lot.
Right now there's one up for auction, should be interesting to see how far under $400 it ends up. $277 now. 
http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=380%20llama


Colt had the Mustang in .380ACP/9mm Kurz, a lot like a 1911 without the grip 
safety. Sig updated it a bit and called it the P238, and enlarged it a hair to 
9x19 Luger, added an ambidextrous safety and called it the P938. I like my P938 
a lot better than my mom's LC380.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

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> On November 8, 2017 at 12:39 PM Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm sure it's no difference than our affinity for Mercedes, but since I've 
> become more aware of the pistol world, it seems like some people have a 
> reverence for Glocks that is like no other.

There are indeed Glock snobs out there. The brand has quite a reputation for 
reliability. 
There's enough different models that if one wants to use only Glock pistols 
they don't have to compromise much for any particular use.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I'm sure it's no difference than our affinity for Mercedes, but since I've 
become more aware of the pistol world, it seems like some people have a 
reverence for Glocks that is like no other.

Or is that just me?

-D

> On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:40 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On November 8, 2017 at 9:53 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I haven't shot one yet, but I also really like the Glock pistols.  A
>> relative familiar with my obsession with the Browning Hi Power recommended
>> that a Glock 17 or 19 would probably be to my liking, but I haven't
>> followed up yet.
> 
> Striker fired polymer framed pistols are a dime a dozen these days. 
> Everybody's making them and competition is pushing prices down. If you don't 
> have at least one feature on your pistol that's 'the best of them all', then 
> you're just selling a commodity item. 
> 
> I've seen advertised prices as low as $269 for Remington's 18 round "Glock", 
> less $100 rebate. When the after rebate price starts looking like 2-3 MBZ 
> tanks full of Premium, that's a cheap gun. 
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] PS Bracket

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Car-Part.com has W124 Vickers for $25 and up, ZF for $35 and up. 
Shouldn't be impossible to find somebody to ship one to you for $50-60.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Drunk double-dippin corrupt good ol boy

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I was raised on the family farm. There, bulls "serviced" cows Later in
life, I came to understand the meaning behind "public service" by elected
and appointed officials meant the same thing.

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:04 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Oh those pesky details. And that apparently his case will be heard by
> Daddy Summey’s daughter (and Eggroll’s sister) whom Daddy appointed as
> magistrate some years ago after she closed her restaurant. Highly
> qualified. Oh, and the good senatah also oversees her approval to the
> bench, for which she will have to redo next? year.
>
> Nothing to see here, move along...
>
> Oh, and dashcams...
>
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Nov 8, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > You forgot to mention that Sen. Campbell (R) is ALSO the Chairman of the
> > Senate Ethics Committee.
> >
> > "We have the best government money can buy!"
> >
> > I wonder how the Trooper determined that Campbell was driving.  Maybe a
> > height difference between him and Mrs. Campbell and they didn't adjust
> the
> > driver's seat before the Trooper's arrived?  I saw the victim's statement
> > that she watched them switch seats.
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> One of our local corruptocrats, and state Senator AND head of the
> >> Charleston Aviation Authority (gotta love that double-dippin at the
> >> taxpayer trough, he was appointed after a nation-wide search)
> rear-ended a
> >> woman on the interstate the other night, jumps out of the car and swaps
> his
> >> wife into the driver seat, staties arrest his drunk fat behind and book
> him
> >> in the jail for DUI and "presenting false information."  Key factor:
> >>
> >> Campbell told S.C. Highway Patrol troopers he climbed out of his
> >>> *Mercedes-Benz SUV* to make sure his wife didn't get out, not to switch
> >>> seats, according to an incident report. Troopers said they determined
> >>> Campbell had been driving  >>> /news/video-sen-paul-campbell-smiled-when-victim-s-mother-
> >>> said/article_78662764-c302-11e7-96d6-bf0f040eb441.html>. He was
> arrested
> >>> and charged with driving under the influence and lying to police,
> which are
> >>> misdemeanor offenses.
> >>>
> >> Boy gonna have some troubles, not enough soon enough though
> >>
> >> http://www.postandcourier.com/news/crash-victim-calls-on-sen
> >> -paul-campbell-to-take-responsibility/article_5d585802-c3d9-
> >> 11e7-a573-233ce41de5d9.html
> >>
> >> Gotta love our local corruptocrats!
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

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> On November 8, 2017 at 10:05 AM MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> A few years ago I gave my #1 daughter a nice little .380 Llama 
> that I had. She loves it. Looks like a miniature version of the 
> 1911 with the grip safety and all. Had some very nice scroll work 
> on the slide.

You see them on Gunbroker for $400 a lot.
Right now there's one up for auction, should be interesting to see how far 
under $400 it ends up. $277 now. 
http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=380%20llama

Colt had the Mustang in .380ACP/9mm Kurz, a lot like a 1911 without the grip 
safety. Sig updated it a bit and called it the P238, and enlarged it a hair to 
9x19 Luger, added an ambidextrous safety and called it the P938. I like my P938 
a lot better than my mom's LC380.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On November 8, 2017 at 9:53 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I haven't shot one yet, but I also really like the Glock pistols.  A
> relative familiar with my obsession with the Browning Hi Power recommended
> that a Glock 17 or 19 would probably be to my liking, but I haven't
> followed up yet.

Striker fired polymer framed pistols are a dime a dozen these days. Everybody's 
making them and competition is pushing prices down. If you don't have at least 
one feature on your pistol that's 'the best of them all', then you're just 
selling a commodity item. 

I've seen advertised prices as low as $269 for Remington's 18 round "Glock", 
less $100 rebate. When the after rebate price starts looking like 2-3 MBZ tanks 
full of Premium, that's a cheap gun. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Tip of the Icebergs

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On November 8, 2017 at 9:51 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Not just 'Dolfie, but lotsa "leaders have done this.  The kim clan Norks 
> have been using the USA as a strawman to generate hatred so that the 
> populace does not overthrow them for decades.

Totalitarian dictatorship needs at least one enemy strong enough to force the 
country to band together. Orwell got that right in '1984', with a perpetual 
state of warfare. If the war ended, you just started another war, and changed 
the history books to reflect the fact that your new enemy was always the enemy. 

Mitch.

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[MBZ] Interesting info about DPF cars and trucks

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

https://youtu.be/-bOlDFFhuPM

-
Max
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Re: [MBZ] Drunk double-dippin corrupt good ol boy

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Oh those pesky details. And that apparently his case will be heard by Daddy 
Summey’s daughter (and Eggroll’s sister) whom Daddy appointed as magistrate 
some years ago after she closed her restaurant. Highly qualified. Oh, and the 
good senatah also oversees her approval to the bench, for which she will have 
to redo next? year.  

Nothing to see here, move along...

Oh, and dashcams...

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You forgot to mention that Sen. Campbell (R) is ALSO the Chairman of the
> Senate Ethics Committee.
> 
> "We have the best government money can buy!"
> 
> I wonder how the Trooper determined that Campbell was driving.  Maybe a
> height difference between him and Mrs. Campbell and they didn't adjust the
> driver's seat before the Trooper's arrived?  I saw the victim's statement
> that she watched them switch seats.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> One of our local corruptocrats, and state Senator AND head of the
>> Charleston Aviation Authority (gotta love that double-dippin at the
>> taxpayer trough, he was appointed after a nation-wide search) rear-ended a
>> woman on the interstate the other night, jumps out of the car and swaps his
>> wife into the driver seat, staties arrest his drunk fat behind and book him
>> in the jail for DUI and "presenting false information."  Key factor:
>> 
>> Campbell told S.C. Highway Patrol troopers he climbed out of his
>>> *Mercedes-Benz SUV* to make sure his wife didn't get out, not to switch
>>> seats, according to an incident report. Troopers said they determined
>>> Campbell had been driving >> /news/video-sen-paul-campbell-smiled-when-victim-s-mother-
>>> said/article_78662764-c302-11e7-96d6-bf0f040eb441.html>. He was arrested
>>> and charged with driving under the influence and lying to police, which are
>>> misdemeanor offenses.
>>> 
>> Boy gonna have some troubles, not enough soon enough though
>> 
>> http://www.postandcourier.com/news/crash-victim-calls-on-sen
>> -paul-campbell-to-take-responsibility/article_5d585802-c3d9-
>> 11e7-a573-233ce41de5d9.html
>> 
>> Gotta love our local corruptocrats!
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Drunk double-dippin corrupt good ol boy

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

You forgot to mention that Sen. Campbell (R) is ALSO the Chairman of the
Senate Ethics Committee.

"We have the best government money can buy!"

I wonder how the Trooper determined that Campbell was driving.  Maybe a
height difference between him and Mrs. Campbell and they didn't adjust the
driver's seat before the Trooper's arrived?  I saw the victim's statement
that she watched them switch seats.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> One of our local corruptocrats, and state Senator AND head of the
> Charleston Aviation Authority (gotta love that double-dippin at the
> taxpayer trough, he was appointed after a nation-wide search) rear-ended a
> woman on the interstate the other night, jumps out of the car and swaps his
> wife into the driver seat, staties arrest his drunk fat behind and book him
> in the jail for DUI and "presenting false information."  Key factor:
>
> Campbell told S.C. Highway Patrol troopers he climbed out of his
>> *Mercedes-Benz SUV* to make sure his wife didn't get out, not to switch
>> seats, according to an incident report. Troopers said they determined
>> Campbell had been driving > /news/video-sen-paul-campbell-smiled-when-victim-s-mother-
>> said/article_78662764-c302-11e7-96d6-bf0f040eb441.html>. He was arrested
>> and charged with driving under the influence and lying to police, which are
>> misdemeanor offenses.
>>
> Boy gonna have some troubles, not enough soon enough though
>
> http://www.postandcourier.com/news/crash-victim-calls-on-sen
> -paul-campbell-to-take-responsibility/article_5d585802-c3d9-
> 11e7-a573-233ce41de5d9.html
>
> Gotta love our local corruptocrats!
>
> --FT
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I had been looking at the Walther P22 as a good pistol for her to start out 
with. She got indoctrinated a few months ago with a 9mm S semi auto of some 
flavor at my brother in law's range, but it was clearly big and difficult for 
her to handle due to the size, weight and ammo type.

I asked her recently if she would go to the range with us if I could find her 
something easier for her to shoot, and she said yes. The P22 was the first 
thing that came to mind, so I started looking for one. The local retailer I've 
frequented had them on their web site for $229, but no stock in the plain black 
model, only the nickel plated and fancy colored versions (ugh!) I started 
looking around on gunbroker.com and stumbled across a fixed price auction a 
sporting goods store in MO had for a bunch of brand new nickel plated versions. 
They wanted $239.00 plus shipping. With that and my FFL fee I was still well 
below what the same model would have cost me anywhere else, so I pulled the 
trigger and ordered one. Should be here in a day or two.

I'm going to take it out and shoot it to check it out and get familiar with it 
before it goes to her.  Should be fun.

-D

> On Nov 8, 2017, at 10:05 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> A few years ago I gave my #1 daughter a nice little .380 Llama that I had. 
> She loves it. Looks like a miniature version of the 1911 with the grip safety 
> and all. Had some very nice scroll work on the slide.
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> The wife is getting a really nice nickel plated Walther P22 for Christmas.  
>> Should be here any day.  It will make her happy to shoot, as there’s little 
>> recoil or lift, and it’s much smaller than anything else we have so it’s 
>> easy to handle.
>> -D
>>> On Nov 7, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> #1 daughter did way better with a (US made Karl/Rem) P22 than with the 
>>> luger load in a cz.  She did substantially better with a P226 in 40 smith 
>>> than with the cz/luger, but not as good as with the p22.
>>> 
>>> Moral of the story is:  get what you like that fits well, and does what you 
>>> expect it to.  While the p22 may not be considered pow'ful 'nuff for CC, 
>>> 120 grains (3 x 40)  from it delivered accurately may be better than any 
>>> number of grains delivered less accurately.
>>> 
>>> the 1911 will bite your hand too.
 Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 November 7, 2017 at 4:32 PM
 The 1911 is a classic, for good reason. I know nothing about the various 
 makers versions, hopefully someone else will chime in. I only shot that a 
 couple times, and I was not very accurate with it, but getting better with 
 time. Any gun is not much use if you can't hit what you're aiming at...
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Re: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

"Yeah, you got a bad heart, and you're ugly too"

--Rodney


On 11/8/17 9:44 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Kaleb sez:


‎I should just ignore it and it will go away.

~~
The thing to do if you are concerned about having the cath is to get a second 
opinion. Most insurance companies will pay for a second opinion since they are 
far cheaper than a surgical procedure.

Gerry

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[MBZ] Drunk double-dippin corrupt good ol boy

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

One of our local corruptocrats, and state Senator AND head of the 
Charleston Aviation Authority (gotta love that double-dippin at the 
taxpayer trough, he was appointed after a nation-wide search) rear-ended 
a woman on the interstate the other night, jumps out of the car and 
swaps his wife into the driver seat, staties arrest his drunk fat behind 
and book him in the jail for DUI and "presenting false information."  
Key factor:


Campbell told S.C. Highway Patrol troopers he climbed out of his 
*Mercedes-Benz SUV* to make sure his wife didn't get out, not to 
switch seats, according to an incident report. Troopers said they 
determined Campbell had been driving 
. 
He was arrested and charged with driving under the influence and lying 
to police, which are misdemeanor offenses.

Boy gonna have some troubles, not enough soon enough though

http://www.postandcourier.com/news/crash-victim-calls-on-sen-paul-campbell-to-take-responsibility/article_5d585802-c3d9-11e7-a573-233ce41de5d9.html

Gotta love our local corruptocrats!

--FT


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[MG via Mercedes]

A few years ago I gave my #1 daughter a nice little .380 Llama 
that I had. She loves it. Looks like a miniature version of the 
1911 with the grip safety and all. Had some very nice scroll work 
on the slide.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

The wife is getting a really nice nickel plated Walther P22 for Christmas.  
Should be here any day.  It will make her happy to shoot, as there’s little 
recoil or lift, and it’s much smaller than anything else we have so it’s easy 
to handle.

-D



On Nov 7, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

#1 daughter did way better with a (US made Karl/Rem) P22 than with the luger 
load in a cz.  She did substantially better with a P226 in 40 smith than with 
the cz/luger, but not as good as with the p22.

Moral of the story is:  get what you like that fits well, and does what you 
expect it to.  While the p22 may not be considered pow'ful 'nuff for CC, 120 
grains (3 x 40)  from it delivered accurately may be better than any number of 
grains delivered less accurately.

the 1911 will bite your hand too.

Max Dillon via Mercedes 
November 7, 2017 at 4:32 PM
The 1911 is a classic, for good reason. I know nothing about the various makers 
versions, hopefully someone else will chime in. I only shot that a couple 
times, and I was not very accurate with it, but getting better with time. Any 
gun is not much use if you can't hit what you're aiming at...

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I saw one of the 92s in stainless last weekend and was taken in. A beautiful 
piece of workmanship, I thought. I had never seen one close up.

Youngest son is a big HK fan. I'm not sure the premium they get for their 
hardware is justified, compared to similar models by other manufacturers. He's 
got a VP40, which is a nice pistol, but I like my Walther PPQ 9mm better. He 
even admits it's easier to shoot than his VP40.

I have spoken to Mitch about his 1911s. That is a far more desirable firearm 
(to me) than the 92 FS. I will probably go in that direction.

Thanks to all for input.

-D

> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:42 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Have you looked at the HKs?  Nice stuff, but maybe a bit spendy. But it is in 
> keeping with our other addiction.
> 
> I got a Ruger LC9S, I tried 3 or 4 others, this one seemed most comfortable 
> in my hand and seems to have some nice features.  Out of the box the sights 
> are way off, I have not sorted that out yet, waiting on my CWP.  I should 
> probably go to the range and tweak on it, more controlled than the back 
> "yard."
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 11/7/17 3:11 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Beretta 92 FS
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - paypal escrow?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Banks still do.  $25 for domestic and $50 for foreign wire transfers are 
common.   Many plces charged $12-15 for pay by phone.  Now ach is free, 
but a wire transfer is still $25-50.


If you have a mill or so sitting around, the best thing to do is start a 
bank or CU.  Banking is licensed theft.   As WF and Banco de mehiko 
(BofA) has shown many times, the bigger they are, the crookeder they are.



Larry Turner via Mercedes 
November 8, 2017 at 8:15 AM
IMO, once a business gets established, like the major banks and Sears, 
etc., they fail to innovate to much out of fear they'll destroy their 
business model, plus (a BIG plus) is few understood the affect the 
internet would have on the economy and the way we do business.  I 
think this year will see the internet selling more Christmas gifts 
than the brick and motor stores.   I don't know for a fact, but I 
think banks used to charge a fee to do electronic transfers - as much 
as $25 perhaps.  Paypal charges me and it's not insignificant - had a 
$350 charge yesterday and the PP fee was around $10.  A bargain for 
what they offer - no risk of bad checks, counterfeit MO's, and all the 
other scams going around.


LarryT



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I haven't shot one yet, but I also really like the Glock pistols.  A
relative familiar with my obsession with the Browning Hi Power recommended
that a Glock 17 or 19 would probably be to my liking, but I haven't
followed up yet.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Have you looked at the HKs?  Nice stuff, but maybe a bit spendy. But it is
> in keeping with our other addiction.
>
> I got a Ruger LC9S, I tried 3 or 4 others, this one seemed most
> comfortable in my hand and seems to have some nice features.  Out of the
> box the sights are way off, I have not sorted that out yet, waiting on my
> CWP.  I should probably go to the range and tweak on it, more controlled
> than the back "yard."
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Tip of the Icebergs

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Not just 'Dolfie, but lotsa "leaders have done this.  The kim clan Norks 
have been using the USA as a strawman to generate hatred so that the 
populace does not overthrow them for decades.


I still contend that some dark operative from somewhere should have 
turned kim jong ill  into kim jong dead.  That and if someone had 
neutered billy bob 50 years ago would have eliminated the Nork problem 
the current Prez has to deal with.

Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
November 8, 2017 at 6:51 AM

When your candidate for President openly insults and denigrates half 
the voting age population, your party has, as they say, "jumped the 
shark". Scapegoating can work, it did for Hitler, but only if the 
people you're attacking are a tiny minority and a majority of the 
voting public supports your attacks. You try to make enemies out of 
40-50% of the voters, and you're committing political suicide, even if 
98% of the media elites cheer you on while you're doing it.




Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

> Kaleb sez:
> 
> >‎I should just ignore it and it will go away.
~~
The thing to do if you are concerned about having the cath is to get a second 
opinion. Most insurance companies will pay for a second opinion since they are 
far cheaper than a surgical procedure.

Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Have you looked at the HKs?  Nice stuff, but maybe a bit spendy. But it 
is in keeping with our other addiction.


I got a Ruger LC9S, I tried 3 or 4 others, this one seemed most 
comfortable in my hand and seems to have some nice features.  Out of the 
box the sights are way off, I have not sorted that out yet, waiting on 
my CWP.  I should probably go to the range and tweak on it, more 
controlled than the back "yard."


--FT


On 11/7/17 3:11 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Beretta 92 FS



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Next Pistol Purchase

[MG via Mercedes]

I like the 92 series. The larger grip is comfortable for me as I 
like something that I can get a grip on. I haven't had a jam but 
that may just be a matter of time. I have all steel magazines so 
no problems with plastic breaking. I hate plastic. No matter what 
you decide to get I would recommend Pachmayr grips. One of the 
first changes I made nice to hold on to. I bought a Ruger 44 
magnum that had them and loved them.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

It is.

That being said, much of my research has brought up issues such as the ones you 
mentioned, like the size of the grip.  I believe the magazines on the ones sold 
for private use are more substantial, at least the ones I saw were.

I was also looking at Remington 1911s as well.  Thoughts on that?

Thank you!

-D



On Nov 7, 2017, at 3:27 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
wrote:

That looks to be the same pistol that is standard issue military now.  I
was not impressed with them, they did not stand up well to hard use
(magazines).  The military magazines were cheap, had plastic cap on the
bottom to hold the spring in and after the mag was dropped on the deck too
many times, that plastic would crack and finally break (usually when you
were inserting a fresh magazine) and then all the ammo would just dump out
onto the ground.  Very frustrating during range time, deadly under combat
conditions.  If you can get higher quality magazines with all metal
construction, do that.  The few armorers that I talked with about them also
did not like them much.  They are easy to field strip and clean, which is a
plus.

In addition, the recoil (when shooting military ball which was probably
P+P) was not to my liking, too much muzzle climb.  My hand was a little too
small for the grips, so I had to pay close attention to always get the same
hand position for accurate shooting, and then the safety lever and the
slide release were hard to reach single-handed.  In order to release the
safety, I had to shift my hand to reach it and then shift back, which I
hated doing.

My only comparisons against which I measure this pistol is against a
Browning Hi Power (superb, but very expensive) or against a 1911 .45, which
kicks like hell but has the stopping power to go with that kick, so a good
trade-off for a military weapon.  My hand fit both of those pistols very
well.

I would never purchase one more for the hand fitment issue than anything
else.

-
Max
Charleston SC



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Re: [MBZ] OT - paypal escrow?

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

IMO, once a business gets established, like the major banks and Sears, 
etc., they fail to innovate to much out of fear they'll destroy their 
business model, plus (a BIG plus) is few understood the affect the 
internet would have on the economy and the way we do business.  I think 
this year will see the internet selling more Christmas gifts than the 
brick and motor stores.   I don't know for a fact, but I think banks 
used to charge a fee to do electronic transfers - as much as $25 
perhaps.  Paypal charges me and it's not insignificant - had a $350 
charge yesterday and the PP fee was around $10.  A bargain for what they 
offer - no risk of bad checks, counterfeit MO's, and all the other scams 
going around.


LarryT


On 11/07/2017 7:27 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

PayPal is great -- makes you wonder what the banks were doing that someone else 
came up with the idea.  Banks routinely transfer money electronically, they 
should have been able to develop a very low cost electronic service without 
someone becoming a billionaire.

Then again, Sears the mail order giant, missed the entire net commerce 
thing.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Tip of the Icebergs

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

That’s deplorable 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2017, at 7:51 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On November 7, 2017 at 9:17 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Too right, but I said that about the Republicans 4 years ago. In the last 4 
>> years its not that the Republicans have risen, the Democrats have just sunk 
>> down into the gutter with them.
> 
> When your candidate for President openly insults and denigrates half the 
> voting age population, your party has, as they say, "jumped the shark". 
> Scapegoating can work, it did for Hitler, but only if the people you're 
> attacking are a tiny minority and a majority of the voting public supports 
> your attacks. You try to make enemies out of 40-50% of the voters, and you're 
> committing political suicide, even if 98% of the media elites cheer you on 
> while you're doing it.
> 
> I've got to thank the Dem leadership for rigging the election and trying to 
> stuff HRC down our throats, otherwise I believe we'd now have our first 
> openly Socialist President since I've been eligible to vote.
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Tip of the Icebergs

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On November 7, 2017 at 9:17 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Too right, but I said that about the Republicans 4 years ago. In the last 4 
> years its not that the Republicans have risen, the Democrats have just sunk 
> down into the gutter with them.

When your candidate for President openly insults and denigrates half the voting 
age population, your party has, as they say, "jumped the shark". Scapegoating 
can work, it did for Hitler, but only if the people you're attacking are a tiny 
minority and a majority of the voting public supports your attacks. You try to 
make enemies out of 40-50% of the voters, and you're committing political 
suicide, even if 98% of the media elites cheer you on while you're doing it.

I've got to thank the Dem leadership for rigging the election and trying to 
stuff HRC down our throats, otherwise I believe we'd now have our first openly 
Socialist President since I've been eligible to vote.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Tip of the Icebergs

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On November 7, 2017 at 9:15 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> In the last election I'd have voted none of the above.

Last Presidential election was the first since 2000 that I wouldn't have voted 
none of the above if the choices were Republican, Democrat and none of the 
above. Mainly because I was tired of politicians and all the establishment 
politicians of both sides were united in opposition to one of the 2016 
candidates, partly because that candidate was saying a lot of the right things, 
even if he didn't really mean them. 

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] Carbs, heart, etc

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On November 7, 2017 at 5:56 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am way too young to be having these sorts of problems. 

My nephew-in-law's father died when he was 42. Stepdad went about five years 
ago, and now his mom's dead too. Nephew in law's around 50-51 now and he's had 
some heart trouble of his own. 

Didn't Curt have stents put in before he was 40?

Mitch.

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