Re: [MBZ] OT PayPal: You have got a new message

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Max wrote:

> I've figured this out.  Putin and his boys think I'm working for
> the DNC, and they're trying to hack me.

What did you do, Max!!!  It looks to me like the CCF (as curley
calls it) after you now!!  Run!  Hide!

Oh - and I don't know who you are, I have never seen any emails
you sent, and this one got to you by accident.

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Re: [MBZ] roofing etc

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

The red one is almost always inside on the right half of the garage. The Toyota 
was an Avalon but got wrecked and is long gone.


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 Date: 2018-02-05  8:18 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: OK Don  Subject: 
Re: [MBZ] roofing etc 
Looks like the cars need to be swapped - inside vs outside.

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Attached photo shows the pitch on my garage as well as the house, given
> that the porch is the same as the house. House is no problem to work on but
> the garage requires roof jacks and planks. Mercedes content as well given
> my car is in the photo.
>
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Re: [MBZ] roofing etc

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

It is not perfect but actually pretty good.


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 Date: 2018-02-05  7:33 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] roofing etc 
 From 20' and a small photo, that looks like a very nice 300D!

> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> February 5, 2018 at 4:04 PM
> Attached photo shows the pitch on my garage as well as the house, 
> given that the porch is the same as the house. House is no problem to 
> work on but the garage requires roof jacks and planks. Mercedes 
> content as well given my car is in the photo.
>
> RB
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Mid engine sports truck

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

WTH?  You are a Dem, always on the wrong side, so you being in that, 
would make everything right!



Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
February 5, 2018 at 9:34 PM
Very tempting save for the wrong side steering wheel.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Mid engine sports truck

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Very tempting save for the wrong side steering wheel.

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 9:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> A recent "Sled Mass" magazine had a picture of one of those on tracks
> pulling a drag grooming snowmobile trails. I don't know what club runs it
> but looked kinda fun.Underpowered and under-weight compared to my 9,000#
> ASV. Its 4.5L 4cyl diesel is only 125hp but 385 lbft of torque...
> -Curt
>
>
> On Monday, February 5, 2018, 9:31:25 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>  Just the thing for hauling garden supplies through tight DC traffic...
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1989-honda-acty-2/
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Re: [MBZ] The car runs and drives, but is a total pain in the ass

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Run away.

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 9:15 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
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> I only paid $0.0001 for Allen, and that looked about the same messed up
> all over
>
> clay
>
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 5, 2018, at 2:36 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Stop me.
> >
> > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1984-mercedes-benz-
> 300sd/6480500805.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Game with the unmentionable name

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

*had some good oysters (they are good this year),*
Were they not so good last year?  And if so did you eat them anyway?

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> I was on a plane. Strangely the in flight entertainment didn't have live
> TV. I watched a lot of Dr. Who. The last season was excellent.
> -Curt
>
>
> On Monday, February 5, 2018, 1:00:22 PM EST, M. Mitchell Marmel via
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>  I found the Superb Owl  most relaxing.  I slept through most of it.  :)
>
> -MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Holy smokes

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Musta been following Regina!


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February 5, 2018 at 8:17 PM
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Re: [MBZ] Reduced due to new dent in trunk

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I wonder what it would cost to install a used trunk lid.

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Dan can buff that out.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Feb 5, 2018 5:41 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
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> > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1985-mercedes-380se-
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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I used Metro brand, from California.  Had to order white, they only regularly 
distribute dark colors (why anyone wants to fry in the summer I can't figure 
out).  

They are something like 30" long, and a complex roof will increase the cost, 
but they can be easily cut.  They screw at the top and hook over the shingle 
below, very strong.

Deccra shingles are larger panels, and the guy I used to put mine on did not 
recommend them, they don't look as nice and he has more trouble with them.  
Also harder to install, they don't hook properly most of the time.

I think they are worth the extra cost, as they will outlast me, and the last 
thing I want to do is replace a roof in my 80's.
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Re: [MBZ] !975 300D on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Bidding hit $8500 but NS.  I paid $8500 for a beautiful red 1976 300D back
in 1983.

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 3:32 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Not bad for its age but . . . .
>
> 1. not a great exterior colour
> 2. looks to be damage to sheet metal at LF under the side bumper
> 3. looks like some small dents in top of rear bumper
> 4. looks to be damage to sheet metal under the front bumper joint to side
> piece looks different on left than right
> 5. some rust in RF wheel-well
> 6. padded dash is cracked
> 7. rear seat pad is bad - MB tex is sagging
> 8. map pockets - L side has a screw and some glue holding it on
> R - side has glue along the right edge
> 9. exhaust looks pretty rusty
> 10. no sunroof
> 11. after-market cruise control
> 12. looks to be some rust in the weather-stipping channel at the front of
> the trunk opening
>
> I think my car is at least as good as this one.
>
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] looks good

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

In grate shape for it's age.

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> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/2001-mercedes-benz-f
> or-sale/6485394174.html
>
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks Peter, I was not even aware of metal shingles.  My roof is complex, I've 
been told that a metal roof will be more expensive due to the complexity.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On February 5, 2018 6:30:07 PM EST, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Check to see if metal shingles are acceptable to the HOA -- they are
>very similar in appearance to standard composition shingles.  They just
>last a lot longer.
>
>Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Driver side tell light broken has red tape on it

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Front bumper missing bottom air dam.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On February 5, 2018 7:09:01 PM EST, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Pass. side headlight lens missing? Hole under trunk lid (lock punched
>out?). Two of the 8 cylinders missing.
>
>Greg
>
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>Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
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>To: Mercedes Discussion List
>Cc: Floyd Thursby
>Subject: [MBZ] Driver side tell light broken has red tape on it
>
>And what else do you notice?
>
>https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1998-mercedes-benz/6463670774.html
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Re: [MBZ] Price adjusted for needed repairs.

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Euro spec lights baby!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On February 5, 2018 5:37:51 PM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Drop a 1 or preferably a 0
>
>https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-380-sel/6479657555.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Who needs a trunk spare?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Glorified Fiat

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Feb 5, 2018 5:39 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/2012-mercedes-smart-
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Mid engine sports truck

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

A recent "Sled Mass" magazine had a picture of one of those on tracks pulling a 
drag grooming snowmobile trails. I don't know what club runs it but looked 
kinda fun.Underpowered and under-weight compared to my 9,000# ASV. Its 4.5L 
4cyl diesel is only 125hp but 385 lbft of torque...
-Curt
 

On Monday, February 5, 2018, 9:31:25 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Just the thing for hauling garden supplies through tight DC traffic...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1989-honda-acty-2/

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Re: [MBZ] Holy smokes

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Exactly. She did it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 5, 2018, at 8:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Engine fire? How do you do that with a Diesel?
> Wait - where's Regina
> 
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 8:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>> 2011 Mercedes E350 Bluetec
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
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> for themselves."
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[MBZ] OT: Mid engine sports truck

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Just the thing for hauling garden supplies through tight DC traffic...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1989-honda-acty-2/

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Re: [MBZ] Holy smokes

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Wiring?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Feb 5, 2018 9:23 PM, "OK Don via Mercedes"  wrote:

> Engine fire? How do you do that with a Diesel?
> Wait - where's Regina
>
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Holy smokes

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Engine fire? How do you do that with a Diesel?
Wait - where's Regina

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Re: [MBZ] Holy smokes

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Aluminum hood?
Looks like a hole burned right through  the middle of it. 
Makes the Regina underhood fire look mild. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Computer Question

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

Mine is a "Naturally Speaking" for Windows... I am moving files and software to a new 
laptop - when I get the "must have" stuff installed I'll check the version..

Larry


On 02/05/2018 3:12 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Is yours the actual Dragon Dictate running on a Mac or a later aversion such as 
Dragon Naturally Speaking running on a Windows OS or a Mac? Reviewers say 
Dragon Naturally Speaking ver. 13 is currently the easiest and most accurate to 
use.
Gerry


I have one - came with DVD's and a USB headset.  They reduced the price to $29 and I 
bought it.  My only problem with it (after it "learns" your voice) is 
background noise.  People talking in the background, the TV,  and sometimes my case, my 
start dogs barking (my 4 legged door bells).   I actually type pretty fast once I kniw 
what I want to say...
Larry


On 02/03/2018 6:03 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:

I am thinking that Wilton, Great Sage of frozen buttocks, Far Flight, and truly 
great adventures, is using Dragon Dictate.  Mayhap, I have that wrong, but 
somebody on list was using it.


clay

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1986 SDL - Polei
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1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








On Feb 3, 2018, at 12:47 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
wrote:

Friend in Jacksonville was given the wrong medicine by his doctor, fell, and 
broke his elbow.
He can't type on the computer without extreme pain and was wondering about 
speech-to-text.

If someone on the list who can load and check out a good speech-to-text 
program, has a used laptop they would like to sell, I would be glad to pre-pay 
the price and the shipping cost to Jacksonville. That would be a lot faster 
than if I did it. If so, please email me off-line.
Thanks,
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Holy smokes

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Go for it Kaleb.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Feb 5, 2018 9:17 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
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> 2011 Mercedes E350 Bluetec
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Re: [MBZ] roofing etc

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Looks like the cars need to be swapped - inside vs outside.

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> Attached photo shows the pitch on my garage as well as the house, given
> that the porch is the same as the house. House is no problem to work on but
> the garage requires roof jacks and planks. Mercedes content as well given
> my car is in the photo.
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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
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[MBZ] Holy smokes

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

2011 Mercedes E350 Bluetec

https://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/d/2011-mercedes-e350-bluetec/6486054636.html


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Re: [MBZ] The car runs and drives, but is a total pain in the ass

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I only paid $0.0001 for Allen, and that looked about the same messed up all over

clay 

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POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Feb 5, 2018, at 2:36 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> Stop me.
> 
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[MBZ] OT PayPal: You have got a new message

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

We are confirm your payment amount of $311.48 to
Alice Wok
New York NY

Please to download and open infected document, we think you stupid.
-- 
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Re: [MBZ] The car runs and drives, but is a total pain in the ass

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Offer em 400.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Feb 5, 2018 5:36 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
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> Stop me.
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1984-mercedes-benz-3
> 00sd/6480500805.html
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Re: [MBZ] Game with the unmentionable name

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I was on a plane. Strangely the in flight entertainment didn't have live TV. I 
watched a lot of Dr. Who. The last season was excellent.
-Curt
 

On Monday, February 5, 2018, 1:00:22 PM EST, M. Mitchell Marmel via 
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 I found the Superb Owl  most relaxing.  I slept through most of it.  :)

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Game with the unmentionable name

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Well your Chowdah Q cooking keeps getting more amazing each year.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Feb 5, 2018 8:44 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> "scope creep" is an ever present problem. My current method of Q cooking
> involves pre-prep and then mostly me sitting around drinking coffee and
> watching the stove. Works so much better than trying to run a grill...
> -Curt
>
>
> On Monday, February 5, 2018, 10:28:46 AM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  For goodness sakes, don’t tell the wife.  She lives for putting on social
> stuff and typically overdoes it to the point of exhaustion.  It bugs me to
> no end, as I don’t have a problem with her doing this but she’s always
> doing too much and getting wiped out as a result.  I chided her over last
> night’s preparations, which, of course, she was complaining about overdoing
> it this morning while we’re on the way to the hospital for her surgery.
>
> If she could be a caterer and make a decent living I’m sure she would.
> However, she doesn’t have the physical stamina to do it.  I have to be the
> ‘bad guy” on a regular basis and get her to throttle back, despite her
> always coming back after the fact and validating my concerns.  Grr.
>
> G-d forbid if we ever had a “Q” here she would kill herself.  But we’d
> have loads of great food….
>
> -D
>
>
>
> > On Feb 5, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > Good to know, Dan.  I'd like to book you now for the 2019 SB.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 10:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > Watched the last minute, if that, mainly to gloat over the Eagles
> beating New England.
> >
> > Wife went to a friend’s house where they were partying, as she’s into
> that sort of thing and loves to cook for gatherings like this.  I ran the
> sweeper, mopped floors and did some laundry since everyone was out of the
> house but me and Kitty.  Kitty was stressed because her food bowls got
> picked up so I could mop the floor.  Nice quiet time.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 5, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > I watched the game at a friends house.  We had a small party.  I enjoy
> the game and its also about hanging out with friends for a few hours.  I
> thought it was a great game. Especially because the patriots lost.  I'm a
> football fan, but it does not mean I endorse everything the NFL does.
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Game with the unmentionable name

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

"scope creep" is an ever present problem. My current method of Q cooking 
involves pre-prep and then mostly me sitting around drinking coffee and 
watching the stove. Works so much better than trying to run a grill...
-Curt
 

On Monday, February 5, 2018, 10:28:46 AM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 For goodness sakes, don’t tell the wife.  She lives for putting on social 
stuff and typically overdoes it to the point of exhaustion.  It bugs me to no 
end, as I don’t have a problem with her doing this but she’s always doing too 
much and getting wiped out as a result.  I chided her over last night’s 
preparations, which, of course, she was complaining about overdoing it this 
morning while we’re on the way to the hospital for her surgery.

If she could be a caterer and make a decent living I’m sure she would.  
However, she doesn’t have the physical stamina to do it.  I have to be the ‘bad 
guy” on a regular basis and get her to throttle back, despite her always coming 
back after the fact and validating my concerns.  Grr.

G-d forbid if we ever had a “Q” here she would kill herself.  But we’d have 
loads of great food….

-D



> On Feb 5, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Good to know, Dan.  I'd like to book you now for the 2019 SB.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 10:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> Watched the last minute, if that, mainly to gloat over the Eagles beating New 
> England.
> 
> Wife went to a friend’s house where they were partying, as she’s into that 
> sort of thing and loves to cook for gatherings like this.  I ran the sweeper, 
> mopped floors and did some laundry since everyone was out of the house but me 
> and Kitty.  Kitty was stressed because her food bowls got picked up so I 
> could mop the floor.  Nice quiet time.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Feb 5, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
> > > wrote:
> >
> > I watched the game at a friends house.  We had a small party.  I enjoy the 
> > game and its also about hanging out with friends for a few hours.  I 
> > thought it was a great game. Especially because the patriots lost.  I'm a 
> > football fan, but it does not mean I endorse everything the NFL does.
> >
> > Don Snook
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Reduced due to new dent in trunk

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Dan can buff that out.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Feb 5, 2018 5:41 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
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> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1985-mercedes-380se-
> reduced/6463965176.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Sounds like you got pretty good life out of it. I had wanted to get a metal 
roof on our house when we did it in 2016 but was quoted in the $20,000 range 
for our 900 sqft house. Thats absurd and I don't know why it was so high, in 
Maine I'd expect around 1/3 of that price. Materials cost is higher for metal 
but installation is much faster...We ended up paying about $6500 for 
architectural with a 40 year warranty. Make sure they use a name brand, not 
Home Depot, shingle that they are a certified installer for. I forget what we 
got but I've got the documentation for it.
-Curt
 

On Monday, February 5, 2018, 10:14:05 AM EST, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Homeowner fun just never ends!

It's time to replace our roof, so I'm going to start getting some quotes.

Any tips or advice on the process?  Totally new territory for me.

This is a shingle roof on a two story home, 1994 construction and original
roof which is pretty much right at the end of its life.  I'll probably ask
for quotes for both metal and shingle, but I don't think we have the budget
for metal right now.

I've started by looking at our NextDoor social media site to see what
locals in our neighborhood and other neighborhoods nearby say, and there
are three or four that have a few good reviews.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] The car runs and drives, but is a total pain in the ass

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You need that un!

Pretty good car for the money.  If I needed a car, I'd be all over that un!


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
February 5, 2018 at 4:36 PM
Stop me.

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1984-mercedes-benz-300sd/6480500805.html 





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Re: [MBZ] roofing etc

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

From 20' and a small photo, that looks like a very nice 300D!


Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
February 5, 2018 at 4:04 PM
Attached photo shows the pitch on my garage as well as the house, 
given that the porch is the same as the house. House is no problem to 
work on but the garage requires roof jacks and planks. Mercedes 
content as well given my car is in the photo.


RB



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Re: [MBZ] Driver side tell light broken has red tape on it

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Pass. side headlight lens missing? Hole under trunk lid (lock punched out?). 
Two of the 8 cylinders missing.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Floyd 
Thursby via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 2:32 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: [MBZ] Driver side tell light broken has red tape on it

And what else do you notice?

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1998-mercedes-benz/6463670774.html

-- 
--FT


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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Check to see if metal shingles are acceptable to the HOA -- they are very 
similar in appearance to standard composition shingles.  They just last a lot 
longer.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

If you can swing it, metal shingles are the cat's meow.  Not a huge amount more 
expensive than asphalt, and have a 50 year warranty.  Wind proof to 140 mph, 
hail proof for the most part, and very very fire resistant.

I spent around $12,000  on my single story a couple years ago.  Wonderful roof, 
and it will outlast me.  30 year shingles were $9k, so maybe half again.  Get 
quotes for your area.

Raised ridge metal sheet is about the same cost as 30 year shingles, has a 40 
year warranty usually.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] OT Dummy in Tesla heading to Sun and Mars

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Most people would simply trade the little bugger in...

-MMM-

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2018/02/05/spacex-
> bucks-launch-tradition-in-1st-flight-new-rocket.html
>
> We can't make this stuff up.  It's not even April 1 yet!
>
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT saw a car that I wanted at lunchtime and it was not even an MB

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Reminded me of the Mercury Marauder that was out for a short while. It 
was parked in the lot here when I left for lunch. I did not go and look 
inside to see whether it had decent seats.
I have always liked the last of the older Impala SS too. Not sold as an 
Impala otherwise. It was the Caprice if it was not the SS. Early 90's if 
memory serves to be correct.


RB


On 05/02/2018 5:00 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Was it donked?

--FT


On 2/5/18 5:51 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

Black on black Crown Victoria with tinted glass and shiny chrome wheels.

RB


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Re: [MBZ] OT saw a car that I wanted at lunchtime and it was not even an MB

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

No, I am not a fan of huge wheels and thin tires.

RB

On 05/02/2018 5:00 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Was it donked?

--FT


On 2/5/18 5:51 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

Black on black Crown Victoria with tinted glass and shiny chrome wheels.

RB


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Re: [MBZ] OT saw a car that I wanted at lunchtime and it was not even an MB

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Was it donked?

--FT


On 2/5/18 5:51 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

Black on black Crown Victoria with tinted glass and shiny chrome wheels.

RB


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[MBZ] OT saw a car that I wanted at lunchtime and it was not even an MB

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Black on black Crown Victoria with tinted glass and shiny chrome wheels.

RB


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Re: [MBZ] Reduced due to new dent in trunk

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On 05/02/2018 4:41 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1985-mercedes-380se-reduced/6463965176.html 



Sad how these once beautiful cars get run down by owners who don't 
maintain them.


RB


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[MBZ] Reduced due to new dent in trunk

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1985-mercedes-380se-reduced/6463965176.html

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[MBZ] Who needs a trunk spare?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/2012-mercedes-smart-car/6475512265.html

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[MBZ] Price adjusted for needed repairs.

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Drop a 1 or preferably a 0

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-380-sel/6479657555.html

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Re: [MBZ] Driver side tell light broken has red tape on it

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Remove hood star, replace car, install hood star.
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'95 E300

On February 5, 2018 5:32:12 PM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>And what else do you notice?
>
>https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1998-mercedes-benz/6463670774.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] roofing etc

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

My house roof pitch is about like your garage.
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On February 5, 2018 5:04:44 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Attached photo shows the pitch on my garage as well as the house, given
>
>that the porch is the same as the house. House is no problem to work on
>
>but the garage requires roof jacks and planks. Mercedes content as well
>
>given my car is in the photo.
>
>RB
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[MBZ] The car runs and drives, but is a total pain in the ass

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Stop me.

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1984-mercedes-benz-300sd/6480500805.html

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[MBZ] Driver side tell light broken has red tape on it

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

And what else do you notice?

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1998-mercedes-benz/6463670774.html

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[MBZ] looks good

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/2001-mercedes-benz-for-sale/6485394174.html

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Re: [MBZ] Game with the unmentionable name

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I went over to my neighbor's for awhile.  It was raining a bit when i 
got there but stood out at the tables and had some good oysters (they 
are good this year), then over to the tent to have some Q and steamed 
skrimps and other tasty treats.  And beer.  My buddy made a german choc 
cake and a lemon cake that were to die for (and I almost did, busting a 
gut eating too much of it).  Good music from some local players.  Our 
former LovGov and current Congresscritter was there, he came over and 
sat by me at out table for awhile, he is quite the schmoozer.  Belen was 
not with him. Another friend seems to know him pretty well so she bent 
his ear about stuff while I ate and listened and occasionally 
interjected erudite comments.  No helicopters flew in this year, it was 
kinda windy and rainy so that probably mitigated that foolishness.  I 
got into a "discussion" with some rich a*e commercial real estate 
guy who was a bit too impressed with himself and his opinions, so that 
was fun -- he had NO sense of humor.


I came home and immediately took about an hour nap, and my rabbit ears 
weren't working too well in the rain so I only caught some snippets of 
The Game which was fine as I find it all fairly boring.


--FT


On 2/2/18 6:30 PM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:

My neighbor is having his usual bbq oyster roast.



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[MBZ] OT Dummy in Tesla heading to Sun and Mars

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2018/02/05/spacex-bucks-launch-tradition-in-1st-flight-new-rocket.html

We can't make this stuff up.  It's not even April 1 yet!


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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 05/02/2018 2:20 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Randy, it is a really steep roof!  I'm normally not one that is afraid of
high places and I've been on plenty of roofs, but this one is too high and
too steep for me.  DIY is out of the cards.

Neighbor had his roof done several years ago, big crew with probably twenty
guys and gals swarmed over it, not a single one had a harness.  His roof is
just as high and steep as mine.  They tore off the old roof and had most of
the new shingles on the roof in the first day.  Smaller crew came back
second day and finished up.

-
Max


OK, I totally understand.
My garage is about 9 1/2 in 12 so I cannot stand on it. The last time I 
shingled it, I used roof brackets and planks. The previous time I was a 
lot younger and just used a rope around my waist. However, it is single 
storey so no huge drop in any event. I would not do my 2 storey house 
either if it was a steep pitch. At my age, I am becoming much more 
careful as I understand that I am not as steady on my feet as I once was 
and that I would not heal so fast as I once might have.


I am trying to decide how I might make my roof easier and safer to get 
on and off of. We have a porch on the back of the house and I think I 
can create some form of permanent ladder from it onto the main roof 
without creating a monstrosity. My biggest issue with going up on the 
roof is getting back on the ladder from the roof. That part makes me 
nervous. I also find that the ladder is heavier than it used to be and 
assume at some point in time, I will not want to move it around on my 
own. Thus, I am looking for some easier way to get up there periodically 
just to make sure that all is well or to correct minor issues.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Dan, chill baby chill.  This is why I don't share much with this list or any 
list.  My decisions are mine for my reasons and no one else's.  So, if I screw 
up, it's on me.  If I do great, it's on me.  You have every right to live where 
you want and where you are happy, for your reasons.  And in the end, that's 
what is most important :-

Best Wishes,

Roger

Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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Re: [MBZ] !975 300D on BAT

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Not bad for its age but . . . .

1. not a great exterior colour
2. looks to be damage to sheet metal at LF under the side bumper
3. looks like some small dents in top of rear bumper
4. looks to be damage to sheet metal under the front bumper joint to 
side piece looks different on left than right

5. some rust in RF wheel-well
6. padded dash is cracked
7. rear seat pad is bad - MB tex is sagging
8. map pockets - L side has a screw and some glue holding it on
    R - side has glue along the right edge
9. exhaust looks pretty rusty
10. no sunroof
11. after-market cruise control
12. looks to be some rust in the weather-stipping channel at the front 
of the trunk opening


I think my car is at least as good as this one.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Randy, it is a really steep roof!  I'm normally not one that is afraid of
high places and I've been on plenty of roofs, but this one is too high and
too steep for me.  DIY is out of the cards.

Neighbor had his roof done several years ago, big crew with probably twenty
guys and gals swarmed over it, not a single one had a harness.  His roof is
just as high and steep as mine.  They tore off the old roof and had most of
the new shingles on the roof in the first day.  Smaller crew came back
second day and finished up.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 05/02/2018 9:14 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Homeowner fun just never ends!
>>
>> It's time to replace our roof, so I'm going to start getting some quotes.
>>
>> Any tips or advice on the process?  Totally new territory for me.
>>
>> This is a shingle roof on a two story home, 1994 construction and original
>> roof which is pretty much right at the end of its life.  I'll probably ask
>> for quotes for both metal and shingle, but I don't think we have the
>> budget
>> for metal right now.
>>
>> I've started by looking at our NextDoor social media site to see what
>> locals in our neighborhood and other neighborhoods nearby say, and there
>> are three or four that have a few good reviews.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> ___
>>
>
> How steep is the pitch on your roof? How close can a truck get in order to
> put the shingle packages on the roof?
> How old are you and what sort of condition are you in?
> If you roof is not really steep and if they can load the shingles on your
> roof for you, and if you are in reasonably good shape, there is little
> reason why you couldn't do it yourself.
> Shingling is not brain surgery. It is pretty straight forward. Start
> straight and check periodically to ensure you are not going off on a
> crooked line (not that it will matter much if you cannot see much of the
> roof from the ground) and nail them on. Not hard to do with a hammer but
> probably faster and easier with an air nailer.
> I did my roof in the summer of 1998 and plan to do it again myself in the
> next couple of years. If I wait too long, I may be getting to where I
> should not venture onto the roof but for now, I feel able to do it. I will
> buy a harness this time in case I trip but I did not use on last time. I
> had to carry all the shingles up last time as the truck could not reach the
> roof from the street. We do not have a front drive and they did not
> consider it a good idea to drive onto our lawn ( I agreed). I hand nailed
> it all the last time but now have a Hitachi roofing nailer. We used it on
> my son's new garage and on my new shed and we will need to do some
> shingling at the lake so it was worth getting.
> I may put a 2nd layer of sheathing on the roof too. It is 7/16 OSB now and
> it has been shingled twice so lots of nail holes. If I put another layer of
> OSB on it should hold the nails better. Last time it was 3 tab but now
> those seem to have disappeared so it will be the architectural shingles
> next time. The pitch on our roof is such that you really cannot see if from
> the ground unless you are a long way back so that is sort of immaterial.
> I am not sure if it applies to sheathing but nails vs screws may be a code
> issue. Apparently screws shear easier than nails. My b-in-l built a deck on
> the back of his house and used screws to attach joist hangers. The
> inspector made him change them out for nails. One can buy screws for the
> purpose via Simpson Strong Ties but I don't know if there are better screws
> that could be used on roof sheathing.
>
> RB
>
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Re: [MBZ] Computer Question

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Is yours the actual Dragon Dictate running on a Mac or a later version such as 
Dragon Naturally Speaking running on a Windows OS or a Mac? Reviewers say 
Dragon Naturally Speaking ver. 13 is currently the easiest and most accurate to 
use.
Gerry

> I have one - came with DVD's and a USB headset.  They reduced the price to 
> $29 and I bought it.  My only problem with it (after it "learns" your voice) 
> is background noise.  People talking in the background, the TV,  and 
> sometimes my case, my start dogs barking (my 4 legged door bells).   I 
> actually type pretty fast once I kniw what I want to say...
> Larry
> 
> 
> On 02/03/2018 6:03 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:
> > I am thinking that Wilton, Great Sage of frozen buttocks, Far Flight, and 
> > truly great adventures, is using Dragon Dictate.  Mayhap, I have that 
> > wrong, but somebody on list was using it.
> >
> >
> > clay
> >
> > 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> > 1986 SDL - Polei
> > 1982 300 SD - Allen
> >
> > retired models-
> > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 3, 2018, at 12:47 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Friend in Jacksonville was given the wrong medicine by his doctor, fell, 
> >> and broke his elbow.
> >> He can't type on the computer without extreme pain and was wondering about 
> >> speech-to-text.
> >>
> >> If someone on the list who can load and check out a good speech-to-text 
> >> program, has a used laptop they would like to sell, I would be glad to 
> >> pre-pay the price and the shipping cost to Jacksonville. That would be a 
> >> lot faster than if I did it. If so, please email me off-line.
> >> Thanks,
> >> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 05/02/2018 9:14 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Homeowner fun just never ends!

It's time to replace our roof, so I'm going to start getting some quotes.

Any tips or advice on the process?  Totally new territory for me.

This is a shingle roof on a two story home, 1994 construction and original
roof which is pretty much right at the end of its life.  I'll probably ask
for quotes for both metal and shingle, but I don't think we have the budget
for metal right now.

I've started by looking at our NextDoor social media site to see what
locals in our neighborhood and other neighborhoods nearby say, and there
are three or four that have a few good reviews.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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How steep is the pitch on your roof? How close can a truck get in order 
to put the shingle packages on the roof?

How old are you and what sort of condition are you in?
If you roof is not really steep and if they can load the shingles on 
your roof for you, and if you are in reasonably good shape, there is 
little reason why you couldn't do it yourself.
Shingling is not brain surgery. It is pretty straight forward. Start 
straight and check periodically to ensure you are not going off on a 
crooked line (not that it will matter much if you cannot see much of the 
roof from the ground) and nail them on. Not hard to do with a hammer but 
probably faster and easier with an air nailer.
I did my roof in the summer of 1998 and plan to do it again myself in 
the next couple of years. If I wait too long, I may be getting to where 
I should not venture onto the roof but for now, I feel able to do it. I 
will buy a harness this time in case I trip but I did not use on last 
time. I had to carry all the shingles up last time as the truck could 
not reach the roof from the street. We do not have a front drive and 
they did not consider it a good idea to drive onto our lawn ( I agreed). 
I hand nailed it all the last time but now have a Hitachi roofing 
nailer. We used it on my son's new garage and on my new shed and we will 
need to do some shingling at the lake so it was worth getting.
I may put a 2nd layer of sheathing on the roof too. It is 7/16 OSB now 
and it has been shingled twice so lots of nail holes. If I put another 
layer of OSB on it should hold the nails better. Last time it was 3 tab 
but now those seem to have disappeared so it will be the architectural 
shingles next time. The pitch on our roof is such that you really cannot 
see if from the ground unless you are a long way back so that is sort of 
immaterial.
I am not sure if it applies to sheathing but nails vs screws may be a 
code issue. Apparently screws shear easier than nails. My b-in-l built a 
deck on the back of his house and used screws to attach joist hangers. 
The inspector made him change them out for nails. One can buy screws for 
the purpose via Simpson Strong Ties but I don't know if there are better 
screws that could be used on roof sheathing.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Sometimes you "give up" freedom you have no intention of ever exercising in
order to get something useful and tangible (or intangible). Big deal.

On Feb 5, 2018 2:16 PM, "fmiser via Mercedes"  wrote:

> > >  OK Don wrote:
> > >
> > > I can't believe someone would buy a house ruled by an HOA.
> > > Talk about giving away your freedom . . .
>
> > Dan wrote:
>
> > I bought a house in a community with deed restrictions for a
> > reason.
>
> > I gave up no freedom to do this.
>
> Yes, you did.  See below.
>
> > Had I desired a property that I could do pretty much anything I
> > wished I would have moved into one of those crappy communities
> > nearby, or in an outlying rural area to do the same.
> >
> > My choice.
>
> I'm _NOT_ going to argue if it was worth it - because clearly for
> you it was.  You "paid" in freedom to gain a neighborhood that you
> liked.  What any of the rest of us would do doesn't matter as it
> is your house and your neighbors.  If the price (dollars and
> freedom) are worth it for what you have (house and neighborhood)
> then good for you!
>
> But I _will_ argue that you clearly did give up freedom.
>
> Do you have less freedom than Don?  Yes.
>
> Did you have a choice?  Yes
>
> I rest my case.
>
> However, each of us has our own perception of value.  And so long
> as we are each satisfied that the value exceeds the cost (time,
> money, freedom, information) all is good.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> >  OK Don wrote:
> > 
> > I can't believe someone would buy a house ruled by an HOA.
> > Talk about giving away your freedom . . .

> Dan wrote:

> I bought a house in a community with deed restrictions for a
> reason.

> I gave up no freedom to do this.  

Yes, you did.  See below.

> Had I desired a property that I could do pretty much anything I
> wished I would have moved into one of those crappy communities
> nearby, or in an outlying rural area to do the same.
> 
> My choice.

I'm _NOT_ going to argue if it was worth it - because clearly for
you it was.  You "paid" in freedom to gain a neighborhood that you
liked.  What any of the rest of us would do doesn't matter as it
is your house and your neighbors.  If the price (dollars and
freedom) are worth it for what you have (house and neighborhood)
then good for you!

But I _will_ argue that you clearly did give up freedom. 

Do you have less freedom than Don?  Yes.

Did you have a choice?  Yes

I rest my case.  

However, each of us has our own perception of value.  And so long
as we are each satisfied that the value exceeds the cost (time,
money, freedom, information) all is good.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[OK Don via Mercedes]

There were twenty or more color choices when we got our metal roof.

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In our HOA, one has to get approval from the Architectural Review Board
> (ARB) to make changes to the exterior of the house, like installing a metal
> roof or changing the color of the paint or the windows, so as to ensure the
> neighborhood aesthetics are maintained.  I don't know that metal roofs are
> prohibited, I have see a couple houses with metal roofs but don't know if
> they are replacement roofs.  I may see about getting approval for a metal
> roof, but the economics would have to add up.  Most metal roofs here in
> Chucktown are green or red in color, so that color change would be a
> "thing" for the ARB to get hung up on.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Craig, there are covenants in place to maintain consistency of the
> > structures, and one of those requires architectural grade tabbed asphalt
> > shingles for roofing.  That’s why.  You see much the same in Florida with
> > communities that have clay tiles for roofing material.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

In our HOA, one has to get approval from the Architectural Review Board
(ARB) to make changes to the exterior of the house, like installing a metal
roof or changing the color of the paint or the windows, so as to ensure the
neighborhood aesthetics are maintained.  I don't know that metal roofs are
prohibited, I have see a couple houses with metal roofs but don't know if
they are replacement roofs.  I may see about getting approval for a metal
roof, but the economics would have to add up.  Most metal roofs here in
Chucktown are green or red in color, so that color change would be a
"thing" for the ARB to get hung up on.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Craig, there are covenants in place to maintain consistency of the
> structures, and one of those requires architectural grade tabbed asphalt
> shingles for roofing.  That’s why.  You see much the same in Florida with
> communities that have clay tiles for roofing material.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Game with the unmentionable name

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

I found the Superb Owl  most relaxing.  I slept through most of it.  :)

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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

All right, just stop it you guys.  I bought a house in a community with deed 
restrictions for a reason.

Any time you want to question the rationale, I can drive you through some 
non-deed restricted communities near me built at about the same time as mine.  
They’re dumps and the property values reflect this.  Not to mention there are 
boats, RVs, outbuildings, etc., all over the place, including the front yards.

I gave up no freedom to do this.  I agreed up front to rules put in place to 
make sure my neighborhood and the properties within it aren’t trashed and are 
maintained in a manner that protects their value, keeping my property value up 
and stable.  I am free to do as I wish with my property within the constraints 
that I and every other property owner agreed to when they purchased a property 
in my neighborhood.

Had I desired a property that I could do pretty much anything I wished I would 
have moved into one of those crappy communities nearby, or in an outlying rural 
area to do the same.

My choice.

Craig, there are covenants in place to maintain consistency of the structures, 
and one of those requires architectural grade tabbed asphalt shingles for 
roofing.  That’s why.  You see much the same in Florida with communities that 
have clay tiles for roofing material.

Let’s move on and stay on topic, please.

-D


> On Feb 5, 2018, at 12:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I can't believe someone would buy a house ruled by an HOA. Talk about
> giving away your freedom . . .
> 
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:34:41 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have mixed emotions about metal roofs, but in our case it’s not an
>>> option as it would violate HOA covenants.
>> 
>> Why?!
>> 
>> 
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Properly installed high quality steel roofing is far superior to 
shingles.   Since asbestos was taken out of the shingles in the 70s, the 
life has been terrible.  We put on (30 yr warranty) shingles 20 years 
ago and you  are lucky to get 20 yrs out of them.  Yep, it has been 20 
yrs.  The "warranty" is worthless.   The first 2 got steel roofs.  I am 
not sure what will happen with the rest.


What I do know is that this time I can't afford to hire #1 son to help, 
as he would cost way too much.


The sound of rain on a tin roof is a wonderful thing.

Craig via Mercedes 
February 5, 2018 at 11:38 AM
On Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:34:41 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Why?!


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Not allowed here.  Tear-off is mandatory, I believe.  I’ve seen a lot of roofs 
being done in the area over the years, and I’ve never seen them roof over an 
existing (shingle) roof.

It adds a substantial amount of weight to the structure, too.

-D

> On Feb 5, 2018, at 12:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You didn't say if the old roof is 3 tab or metric.  I will assume metric 
> (architectural)
> 
> For asphalt:
> 
> Most of them want to reshingle over the top of the old.  THis is bad.  It may 
> even void the shingle warranty.  Every time I did it, (Except the first)  I 
> have torn off the old roof, pulled the nails, put down new felt and then 
> shingled.  You want to ask them details about HOW they intend to prepare the 
> roof.  Roofers prefer to pound in the old nails.  I found it takes no longer 
> to pull them than to pound them in.  When the nail from the nailer hits an 
> old nail head, the nail may shoot anywhere, creating a danger.  It will also 
> tear up the shingle, but the roofer will nail it down anyway.  Guess what 
> happens down the road?  Yep,  you are likely to get a leak there.
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I can't believe someone would buy a house ruled by an HOA. Talk about
giving away your freedom . . .

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:34:41 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > I have mixed emotions about metal roofs, but in our case it’s not an
> > option as it would violate HOA covenants.
>
> Why?!
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 5 Feb 2018 12:34:41 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I have mixed emotions about metal roofs, but in our case it’s not an
> option as it would violate HOA covenants.

Why?!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I have mixed emotions about metal roofs, but in our case it’s not an option as 
it would violate HOA covenants.

I’m curious as to how much more expensive the metal was over composition 
(shingles)?

-D


> On Feb 5, 2018, at 12:31 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Hail is the most common roof issue here. We replaced the original 1997
> shingle roof with metal within the settlement $s , then got a rate
> reduction on our home owners insurance for the metal roof, so we are ahead
> of the game. get quotes both ways - many roofers will install either and
> give you quotes for both.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You didn't say if the old roof is 3 tab or metric.  I will assume metric 
(architectural)


For asphalt:

Most of them want to reshingle over the top of the old.  THis is bad.  
It may even void the shingle warranty.  Every time I did it, (Except the 
first)  I have torn off the old roof, pulled the nails, put down new 
felt and then shingled.  You want to ask them details about HOW they 
intend to prepare the roof.  Roofers prefer to pound in the old nails.  
I found it takes no longer to pull them than to pound them in.  When the 
nail from the nailer hits an old nail head, the nail may shoot anywhere, 
creating a danger.  It will also tear up the shingle, but the roofer 
will nail it down anyway.  Guess what happens down the road?  Yep,  you 
are likely to get a leak there.





Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
February 5, 2018 at 9:14 AM
Homeowner fun just never ends!

It's time to replace our roof, so I'm going to start getting some quotes.

Any tips or advice on the process? Totally new territory for me.

This is a shingle roof on a two story home, 1994 construction and original
roof which is pretty much right at the end of its life. I'll probably ask
for quotes for both metal and shingle, but I don't think we have the 
budget

for metal right now.

I've started by looking at our NextDoor social media site to see what
locals in our neighborhood and other neighborhoods nearby say, and there
are three or four that have a few good reviews.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Hail is the most common roof issue here. We replaced the original 1997
shingle roof with metal within the settlement $s , then got a rate
reduction on our home owners insurance for the metal roof, so we are ahead
of the game. get quotes both ways - many roofers will install either and
give you quotes for both.

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> We’ve got a new roof in our future as well, probably in the next 2-3
> years. House was built in 1998 and it’s the original.
>
> Take some time and check into your current code requirements.  As you
> might expect, this is super critical down here with hurricanes, and may
> play into your situation as well.  Nailing schedules are the biggie.  The
> number of nails per foot/shingle are the critical numbers.  Clip spacing on
> the panels has increased as well. Dade County (Miami) hurricane codes are
> considered the most stringent in the state and are pretty much what all
> municipalities abide by.
>
> I’m thinking of getting new decking to increase the strength of the roof.
> Not sure if this is super important, but it’s one of those “while you’re
> there why not do it?” sort of things.  I know our current decking is OSB,
> which is pretty common these days, but wondering if using plywood would
> increase the strength.  With the consideration that we might install roof
> mounted solar panels in the future this might be important.  I have also
> wondered about screws versus nails, too, but I”m not sure that’s commonly
> done.
>
> Keep us posted as to your findings, as I’m definitely interested.
>
> -D
>
>
>
> > On Feb 5, 2018, at 10:14 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Homeowner fun just never ends!
> >
> > It's time to replace our roof, so I'm going to start getting some quotes.
> >
> > Any tips or advice on the process?  Totally new territory for me.
> >
> > This is a shingle roof on a two story home, 1994 construction and
> original
> > roof which is pretty much right at the end of its life.  I'll probably
> ask
> > for quotes for both metal and shingle, but I don't think we have the
> budget
> > for metal right now.
> >
> > I've started by looking at our NextDoor social media site to see what
> > locals in our neighborhood and other neighborhoods nearby say, and there
> > are three or four that have a few good reviews.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The latest in solar roofing

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The pricing is currently insane, like $65/SF versus about $20/SF for 
conventional tabbed shingles.  You would never get a payback. Ever.  If they 
can work out the economies of scale it might be viable in 10 years….

-D


> On Feb 5, 2018, at 11:34 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Anyone who needs a new or replacement roof (assuming it's in full sun)
> should seriously consider the Tesla/Solar City solar roof tiles.  I don't
> know the pricing but it's well worth a look.  This video is amazing for the
> variety of products being offered..
> 
> https://greenerideal.com/news/building/elon-musk-unveils-tesla-solar-roof/
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[MBZ] OT: The latest in solar roofing

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Anyone who needs a new or replacement roof (assuming it's in full sun)
should seriously consider the Tesla/Solar City solar roof tiles.  I don't
know the pricing but it's well worth a look.  This video is amazing for the
variety of products being offered..

https://greenerideal.com/news/building/elon-musk-unveils-tesla-solar-roof/
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Re: [MBZ] I’m in love

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

If the Rods don't get 'em, then Regina will?

Sorry Kaleb, couldn't resist

Don - I think the consensus is that the head gasket is the weak point that
leads to a bent rod at #1 cylinder and death of the engine.  I think it
would be a low risk option to buy one, replace the head gasket if not
already done, and have the cylinder walls and piston heights checked to
make sure there is not already a bent rod.  However, the expense and time
involved may not be worth it?  Another option would be to drop-in an OM606
turbo engine, re-use original IP, and have more power and a more dependable
engine.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It is nice.  Needs a Martha treatment.  But, with these the important
> question is whether the rods have been addressed OR it has had a
> replacement engine right?   I thought the conventional wisdom was these
> will ALL bend the rods eventually.  Is that right?
>
>
> Donald H. Snook
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net]
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 8:01 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: [MBZ] I’m in love
>
> 94 MERCEDES BENZ S 350 TURBO DIESEL
>
> https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/94-mercedes-benz-
> 350-turbo/6483448357.html
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Game with the unmentionable name

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

For goodness sakes, don’t tell the wife.  She lives for putting on social stuff 
and typically overdoes it to the point of exhaustion.  It bugs me to no end, as 
I don’t have a problem with her doing this but she’s always doing too much and 
getting wiped out as a result.  I chided her over last night’s preparations, 
which, of course, she was complaining about overdoing it this morning while 
we’re on the way to the hospital for her surgery.

If she could be a caterer and make a decent living I’m sure she would.  
However, she doesn’t have the physical stamina to do it.  I have to be the ‘bad 
guy” on a regular basis and get her to throttle back, despite her always coming 
back after the fact and validating my concerns.  Grr.

G-d forbid if we ever had a “Q” here she would kill herself.  But we’d have 
loads of great food….

-D



> On Feb 5, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Good to know, Dan.  I'd like to book you now for the 2019 SB.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 10:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> Watched the last minute, if that, mainly to gloat over the Eagles beating New 
> England.
> 
> Wife went to a friend’s house where they were partying, as she’s into that 
> sort of thing and loves to cook for gatherings like this.  I ran the sweeper, 
> mopped floors and did some laundry since everyone was out of the house but me 
> and Kitty.  Kitty was stressed because her food bowls got picked up so I 
> could mop the floor.  Nice quiet time.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Feb 5, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
> > > wrote:
> >
> > I watched the game at a friends house.  We had a small party.  I enjoy the 
> > game and its also about hanging out with friends for a few hours.  I 
> > thought it was a great game. Especially because the patriots lost.   I'm a 
> > football fan, but it does not mean I endorse everything the NFL does.
> >
> > Don Snook
> >
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Roofing

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

We’ve got a new roof in our future as well, probably in the next 2-3 years. 
House was built in 1998 and it’s the original.

Take some time and check into your current code requirements.  As you might 
expect, this is super critical down here with hurricanes, and may play into 
your situation as well.  Nailing schedules are the biggie.  The number of nails 
per foot/shingle are the critical numbers.  Clip spacing on the panels has 
increased as well. Dade County (Miami) hurricane codes are considered the most 
stringent in the state and are pretty much what all municipalities abide by.

I’m thinking of getting new decking to increase the strength of the roof.  Not 
sure if this is super important, but it’s one of those “while you’re there why 
not do it?” sort of things.  I know our current decking is OSB, which is pretty 
common these days, but wondering if using plywood would increase the strength.  
With the consideration that we might install roof mounted solar panels in the 
future this might be important.  I have also wondered about screws versus 
nails, too, but I”m not sure that’s commonly done.

Keep us posted as to your findings, as I’m definitely interested.

-D



> On Feb 5, 2018, at 10:14 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Homeowner fun just never ends!
> 
> It's time to replace our roof, so I'm going to start getting some quotes.
> 
> Any tips or advice on the process?  Totally new territory for me.
> 
> This is a shingle roof on a two story home, 1994 construction and original
> roof which is pretty much right at the end of its life.  I'll probably ask
> for quotes for both metal and shingle, but I don't think we have the budget
> for metal right now.
> 
> I've started by looking at our NextDoor social media site to see what
> locals in our neighborhood and other neighborhoods nearby say, and there
> are three or four that have a few good reviews.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] I’m in love

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

It is nice.  Needs a Martha treatment.  But, with these the important question 
is whether the rods have been addressed OR it has had a replacement engine 
right?   I thought the conventional wisdom was these will ALL bend the rods 
eventually.  Is that right? 


Donald H. Snook 



-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 8:01 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] I’m in love

94 MERCEDES BENZ S 350 TURBO DIESEL

https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/94-mercedes-benz-350-turbo/6483448357.html


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Re: [MBZ] Game with the unmentionable name

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Good to know, Dan.  I'd like to book you now for the 2019 SB.

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 10:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Watched the last minute, if that, mainly to gloat over the Eagles beating
> New England.
>
> Wife went to a friend’s house where they were partying, as she’s into that
> sort of thing and loves to cook for gatherings like this.  I ran the
> sweeper, mopped floors and did some laundry since everyone was out of the
> house but me and Kitty.  Kitty was stressed because her food bowls got
> picked up so I could mop the floor.  Nice quiet time.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 5, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I watched the game at a friends house.  We had a small party.  I enjoy
> the game and its also about hanging out with friends for a few hours.  I
> thought it was a great game. Especially because the patriots lost.   I'm a
> football fan, but it does not mean I endorse everything the NFL does.
> >
> > Don Snook
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1993 400E Stuff

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Thanks - very interesting.  Reminds me of my own personal health VMI, which
my new primary doctor bought up on the computer a couple weeks ago.  She
said it was 150 pages long - and I don't have any exceptional health issues

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Vehicle Master Inquiry
>
> Any time an MB touches a dealer, no matter how minor, even if no work is
> performed, it’s recorded.  The dealers use the VMI to “see” the history of
> the car as it relates to Mercedes.  My 1998 W210 wagon had an eight page
> VMI.  The text on these is really small, like maybe 10 point font, so
> there’s a lot of information on eight pages.  That means that the car “saw”
> a dealer a LOT.
>
> If you go to a dealer and ask to see a VMI it’s likely you’ll get a blank
> stare or a refusal, even if it’s your car, as VMIs are internal MB
> documents.  My dealer is pretty cool about them and if you’re the owner
> will share them with you.  There’s nothing secret on them, in fact, a great
> deal of the entries don’t even have explanations or very few details, as
> everything is coded to operation numbers.  Where there are text entries it
> does give you some insight into the operation that was performed.  Most
> importantly for MB, warranty work is listed in the VMI in detail.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 5, 2018, at 10:04 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > What's VMI?
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 9:50 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > Had the dealer run the VMI this morning.  I’ve set another record
> according to the dealer - the VMI is 14 pages!
> >
> > Third brake light housing is still available, thank goodness, and just
> my luck, the only color left in MB inventory is blue. Nice.
> >
> > Shipper should be there tomorrow we’re hoping, so it should be here by
> the end of the week at the latest, maybe a day after they pick it up.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 4, 2018, at 9:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > Talked to the owner again today.  Resolved a few minor questions.
> > >
> > > Headlight wipers are in the trunk.  They got taken off for cleaning
> some time ago and didn’t get reinstalled.
> > >
> > > For the parts I need, like window regulator, hood pad, etc., I’ve yet
> to find anything that’s more than about $50.  Amazing how cheap some of the
> parts are for this car.  Third brake light assembly completely shattered
> when they tried removing it to replace the bulb.  Yeah, I’ve seen that
> happen more times than I like.  A new one is like $125, probably the most
> expensive part on the car.  And they’re only available in a couple of
> colors, so it will probably have to be painted.  Heck, a new interior rear
> view mirror is only $54.00 from Mercedes. Dang.
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Game with the unmentionable name

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Watched the last minute, if that, mainly to gloat over the Eagles beating New 
England.

Wife went to a friend’s house where they were partying, as she’s into that sort 
of thing and loves to cook for gatherings like this.  I ran the sweeper, mopped 
floors and did some laundry since everyone was out of the house but me and 
Kitty.  Kitty was stressed because her food bowls got picked up so I could mop 
the floor.  Nice quiet time.

-D


> On Feb 5, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I watched the game at a friends house.  We had a small party.  I enjoy the 
> game and its also about hanging out with friends for a few hours.  I thought 
> it was a great game. Especially because the patriots lost.   I'm a football 
> fan, but it does not mean I endorse everything the NFL does.  
> 
> Don Snook 
> 


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[MBZ] OT Roofing

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Homeowner fun just never ends!

It's time to replace our roof, so I'm going to start getting some quotes.

Any tips or advice on the process?  Totally new territory for me.

This is a shingle roof on a two story home, 1994 construction and original
roof which is pretty much right at the end of its life.  I'll probably ask
for quotes for both metal and shingle, but I don't think we have the budget
for metal right now.

I've started by looking at our NextDoor social media site to see what
locals in our neighborhood and other neighborhoods nearby say, and there
are three or four that have a few good reviews.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Game with the unmentionable name

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Well said.  I love the look on Belichick's face after the loss - he's such
a sourpuss.  No offense meant to the Sourpuss Community.

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 10:07 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I watched the game at a friends house.  We had a small party.  I enjoy the
> game and its also about hanging out with friends for a few hours.  I
> thought it was a great game. Especially because the patriots lost.   I'm a
> football fan, but it does not mean I endorse everything the NFL does.
>
> Don Snook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 2:04 PM
> To: Mercedes_Discussion_List 
> Subject: [MBZ] Game with the unmentionable name
>
> Since the [league that should have no respect] demands that only they can
> use the name of the [game with the unmentionable name], (played by overage,
> way overpaid spoiled brat disrespectful  kids) I have a question:
>
> 1.  How many of you will be at a stuporbowl party?
>
> 2.  How many of you will watch the stuporbowl?  (at a party or not) [if
> you plan to go to a party AND watch the game, you need a positive response
> to both 1 and 2]
>
> 3.  How many of you will have a F*** the [League that should have no
> respect] party?
>
> 4.  How many of you will do what you do anyway, and pay no attention to
> the [game with the unmentionable name] or its league?
>
> A poll of league fans found that 16% fewer plan to watch the stuporbowl
> than last year.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1993 400E Stuff

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Vehicle Master Inquiry

Any time an MB touches a dealer, no matter how minor, even if no work is 
performed, it’s recorded.  The dealers use the VMI to “see” the history of the 
car as it relates to Mercedes.  My 1998 W210 wagon had an eight page VMI.  The 
text on these is really small, like maybe 10 point font, so there’s a lot of 
information on eight pages.  That means that the car “saw” a dealer a LOT.

If you go to a dealer and ask to see a VMI it’s likely you’ll get a blank stare 
or a refusal, even if it’s your car, as VMIs are internal MB documents.  My 
dealer is pretty cool about them and if you’re the owner will share them with 
you.  There’s nothing secret on them, in fact, a great deal of the entries 
don’t even have explanations or very few details, as everything is coded to 
operation numbers.  Where there are text entries it does give you some insight 
into the operation that was performed.  Most importantly for MB, warranty work 
is listed in the VMI in detail.

-D


> On Feb 5, 2018, at 10:04 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> What's VMI?
> 
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 9:50 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> Had the dealer run the VMI this morning.  I’ve set another record according 
> to the dealer - the VMI is 14 pages!
> 
> Third brake light housing is still available, thank goodness, and just my 
> luck, the only color left in MB inventory is blue. Nice.
> 
> Shipper should be there tomorrow we’re hoping, so it should be here by the 
> end of the week at the latest, maybe a day after they pick it up.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Feb 4, 2018, at 9:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > > wrote:
> >
> > Talked to the owner again today.  Resolved a few minor questions.
> >
> > Headlight wipers are in the trunk.  They got taken off for cleaning some 
> > time ago and didn’t get reinstalled.
> >
> > For the parts I need, like window regulator, hood pad, etc., I’ve yet to 
> > find anything that’s more than about $50.  Amazing how cheap some of the 
> > parts are for this car.  Third brake light assembly completely shattered 
> > when they tried removing it to replace the bulb.  Yeah, I’ve seen that 
> > happen more times than I like.  A new one is like $125, probably the most 
> > expensive part on the car.  And they’re only available in a couple of 
> > colors, so it will probably have to be painted.  Heck, a new interior rear 
> > view mirror is only $54.00 from Mercedes. Dang.
> >
> > -D
> >
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Game with the unmentionable name

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I watched the game at a friends house.  We had a small party.  I enjoy the game 
and its also about hanging out with friends for a few hours.  I thought it was 
a great game. Especially because the patriots lost.   I'm a football fan, but 
it does not mean I endorse everything the NFL does.  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 2:04 PM
To: Mercedes_Discussion_List 
Subject: [MBZ] Game with the unmentionable name

Since the [league that should have no respect] demands that only they can use 
the name of the [game with the unmentionable name], (played by overage, way 
overpaid spoiled brat disrespectful  kids) I have a question:

1.  How many of you will be at a stuporbowl party?

2.  How many of you will watch the stuporbowl?  (at a party or not) [if you 
plan to go to a party AND watch the game, you need a positive response to both 
1 and 2]

3.  How many of you will have a F*** the [League that should have no respect] 
party?

4.  How many of you will do what you do anyway, and pay no attention to the 
[game with the unmentionable name] or its league?

A poll of league fans found that 16% fewer plan to watch the stuporbowl than 
last year.



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Re: [MBZ] 1993 400E Stuff

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What's VMI?

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 9:50 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Had the dealer run the VMI this morning.  I’ve set another record
> according to the dealer - the VMI is 14 pages!
>
> Third brake light housing is still available, thank goodness, and just my
> luck, the only color left in MB inventory is blue. Nice.
>
> Shipper should be there tomorrow we’re hoping, so it should be here by the
> end of the week at the latest, maybe a day after they pick it up.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 2018, at 9:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Talked to the owner again today.  Resolved a few minor questions.
> >
> > Headlight wipers are in the trunk.  They got taken off for cleaning some
> time ago and didn’t get reinstalled.
> >
> > For the parts I need, like window regulator, hood pad, etc., I’ve yet to
> find anything that’s more than about $50.  Amazing how cheap some of the
> parts are for this car.  Third brake light assembly completely shattered
> when they tried removing it to replace the bulb.  Yeah, I’ve seen that
> happen more times than I like.  A new one is like $125, probably the most
> expensive part on the car.  And they’re only available in a couple of
> colors, so it will probably have to be painted.  Heck, a new interior rear
> view mirror is only $54.00 from Mercedes. Dang.
> >
> > -D
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1968 MERCEDES BENZ 230 FINTAIL - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive sale

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That color is totally INAPPROPRIATE.

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 9:38 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> "Gives it another 50 hp"  according to the BW moron who had the 250hp 240D
>
> Probably some genius thought that would be easier to maintain than the oil
> bath air cleaner.  (and thought it would add HP)
>
>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>> February 5, 2018 at 7:18 AM
>> What's up with that air cleaner just hanging there, no can or intake tube?
>> That can't be right.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Winter 240D body maintenance

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I would never need to weld since I can fly in a world class expert in about
3 hours.

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 5:53 PM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > > > Dimitri sez:
> > > >
> > > > ‎ I’ve also been spraying many of the body >cavities and
> > > > inside of door bottoms with >fluid film for rust protection.
>
> > > Rick wrote:
> > >
> > > How's that working out? I have a sprayer and some Fluid Film I
> > > am going to try on a couple of my rusty beaters.
>
> > Dimitri wrote:
>
> > Fluid film is very effective. It requires reapplication every 6
> > months to one year. I also like that it is non toxic and natural.
>
> I have notes from years ago on a homemade FluidFilm
>
> from http://www.plowsite.com/showthread.php?t=155136
>
> The original formula is (by volume) 3 Lanolin, 3 Mineral
> oil and 7 Mineral Spirits [paint thinner] The formula was
> available on the MSDS before the current owners bought FF.
>
> Even if it's not exactly the same as the current formula, it's
> probably still quite effective.
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Re: [MBZ] !975 300D on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Well, the bidding hasn't budged -- still stuck at $7k.  The auction ends
this afternoon.  Might sell for < $10k

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:

> I don't think  I have seen that one. A MB friend of mine loves the 70's MB
> colors-not so sure myself.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
>
>> Colorado Beige.  The only acceptable offshoot of that most boring of
>> colors.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 1:05 PM, Dwight Giles 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What is that color?
>>>
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>>
>>> On Feb 4, 2018 10:10 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
 In amazing condition.  Watch the video.  Original save for the radio
 and an
 added third brake light. Not sure if there is a crack on the dash even
 though they deny any.  Expect some frenzied bidding from all the closet
 115
 lovers out there.

 https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1975-mercedes-benz-300d-3/
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Re: [MBZ] 1993 400E Stuff

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Had the dealer run the VMI this morning.  I’ve set another record according to 
the dealer - the VMI is 14 pages!

Third brake light housing is still available, thank goodness, and just my luck, 
the only color left in MB inventory is blue. Nice.

Shipper should be there tomorrow we’re hoping, so it should be here by the end 
of the week at the latest, maybe a day after they pick it up.

-D


> On Feb 4, 2018, at 9:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Talked to the owner again today.  Resolved a few minor questions.
> 
> Headlight wipers are in the trunk.  They got taken off for cleaning some time 
> ago and didn’t get reinstalled.
> 
> For the parts I need, like window regulator, hood pad, etc., I’ve yet to find 
> anything that’s more than about $50.  Amazing how cheap some of the parts are 
> for this car.  Third brake light assembly completely shattered when they 
> tried removing it to replace the bulb.  Yeah, I’ve seen that happen more 
> times than I like.  A new one is like $125, probably the most expensive part 
> on the car.  And they’re only available in a couple of colors, so it will 
> probably have to be painted.  Heck, a new interior rear view mirror is only 
> $54.00 from Mercedes. Dang.
> 
> -D
> 


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Re: [MBZ] 1968 MERCEDES BENZ 230 FINTAIL - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive sale

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

"Gives it another 50 hp"  according to the BW moron who had the 250hp 240D

Probably some genius thought that would be easier to maintain than the 
oil bath air cleaner.  (and thought it would add HP)

Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
February 5, 2018 at 7:18 AM
What's up with that air cleaner just hanging there, no can or intake tube?
That can't be right.



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Re: [MBZ] Monday....

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I have a dash cam for this car, but I’m waiting to install it when I have the 
headliner out so I can make the installation nice and clean.  Oh, well.

A nice replacement bumper from another wagon in the same color is $400.  The 
filing fees and time to pursue is more than that.

I got a chance to go look at it in the daylight.  No paint/metal damage, just 
the leading edge of the bumper at the rear of the wheel well is broken off.  At 
least it is now, as I snapped it off the rest of the way as it was hanging on 
by just a little piece of the plastic.  I didn’t want to lose my MB mud flap 
that was attached.

I already sent quote requests in to a couple of places on Car-Parts for bumpers 
they have listed, so I expect to have one on the way possibly today or tomorrow.

-D


> On Feb 5, 2018, at 8:14 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dash cams, front and rear, and you'd have a license plate and maybe a clear
> pic of the driver's face.  Hypothetically file a police report and get a
> small claims court ruling, and at least you'd have a (small) trap laid for
> them.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 6:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Wife has surgery this morning, so we’re on our way to the hospital when an
>> older Lexus bumps into me in the right rear as we’re going around a turn on
>> a surface street.  I’m ahead of them and there are no side streets for
>> about 1/4 mile, so I keep going and turn off on the first side street.  I’m
>> expecting them to follow me onto the side street as they’re behind me.  I
>> wait, see lots of traffic go by, but no Lexus.  It’s clear that the Lexus
>> has passed us and moved on.
>> 
>> We were noticing that this Lexus had the reverse lights on all the time
>> when they were ahead of us at a traffic light before we got bumped, so the
>> assumption is that it was a beater without insurance.
>> 
>> I’m pretty wired after the hit, as you might expect.  We decide to keep
>> going after it’s clear the Lexus has disappeared.
>> 
>> It’s still dark outside, but from what I could see when we got to the
>> hospital the only damage is to the bumper below the metal on the right
>> rear.  Once it gets light and the wife is in the OR I’m going to walk back
>> out to the parking lot and have a look in the daylight.
>> 
>> Car-Parts.com  has bumpers fairly close to me in
>> good condition in my color for $400 and less.  Looks like I’ll need one…
>> 
>> Grr.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] 1993 400E Stuff

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Sure, come on down and you can take it for a spin.  If I haven’t flipped it on 
BAT by then…

-D

> On Feb 5, 2018, at 8:16 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Living vicariously through this one Dan, I sure would like to drive the car
> once you've got it sorted out. A 124 E500 is on my list of dream cars. Have
> to get my cabriolet going and make a trip down that way maybe later this
> summer.
> 
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> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] 1968 MERCEDES BENZ 230 FINTAIL - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive sale

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

What's up with that air cleaner just hanging there, no can or intake tube?
That can't be right.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 6:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Yeah, I was thinking the same thing….
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 5, 2018, at 5:42 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Wow, 4speed, sunroof, and AC!  What a rare car.
> >
> > But that repaint... oh god what were they thinking?!
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 5:16 AM Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Jaime, go get this!
> >>
> >>
> >> https://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/d/1968-mercedes-benz-230-
> fintail/6475029288.html
> >>
> >> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 1993 400E Stuff

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Living vicariously through this one Dan, I sure would like to drive the car
once you've got it sorted out. A 124 E500 is on my list of dream cars. Have
to get my cabriolet going and make a trip down that way maybe later this
summer.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 9:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Talked to the owner again today.  Resolved a few minor questions.
>
> Headlight wipers are in the trunk.  They got taken off for cleaning some
> time ago and didn’t get reinstalled.
>
> For the parts I need, like window regulator, hood pad, etc., I’ve yet to
> find anything that’s more than about $50.  Amazing how cheap some of the
> parts are for this car.  Third brake light assembly completely shattered
> when they tried removing it to replace the bulb.  Yeah, I’ve seen that
> happen more times than I like.  A new one is like $125, probably the most
> expensive part on the car.  And they’re only available in a couple of
> colors, so it will probably have to be painted.  Heck, a new interior rear
> view mirror is only $54.00 from Mercedes. Dang.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 3, 2018, at 9:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > So I’ve finished an exhaustive review with the owner of the issues/fixes
> this car needs.  I’ve created a list of the bad and the good:
> >
> > The bad:
> >
> > Lower engine harness needs rebuilding
> > ASR light is on
> > Hood ornament (missing)
> > Headlight wipers (missing?)
> > Hood pad (gone!)
> > Cowl/lower windshield seal (degraded)
> > Third brake light (missing?)
> > Driver’s seat leather (bolster worn)
> > Left rear quarter clear coat peeling
> > Rear windows non-functional (one dead, the other with a broken regulator)
> > Sunroof adjustment (left rear corner is low but seals)
> > Headliner sagging in rear
> > Radio volume control is intermittent
> > Inside rear view mirror dimming tab is broken off
> > Distributor insulator on right distributor is cracked/chipped
> >
> > The good:
> >
> > Southern car, no rust or corrosion
> > Body is very straight, never been wrecked or damaged
> > Nearly new tires
> > Full suspension rebuild w/shocks/struts/tie rod ends/all links and
> bushings (OE parts) last year (about 2k ago)
> > Upper harness replaced
> > Timing chain and guides replaced 15k ago
> > Brakes replaced (all) around 10k ago
> > Full documentation on repairs and maintenance from date of original
> delivery/purchase
> > Dealer and independent shop maintained on MB service schedule for the
> entire life of the car
> >
> > None of this is significant, just a laundry list of almost all Martha
> sorts of things.  I’m sure there’s more that I’ll find once it arrives and
> I can give it a serious once-over, but all in all it’s just a lot of piddly
> stuff.  The bones sounds pretty good and the provenance is spectacular.  I
> saw the pile of paperwork that comes with the car and it’s astonishing.
> They have a full set of paper service manuals for it as well. Dang.  I
> can’t wait to see the VMI on this car….
> >
> > Let the fun begin!
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] Monday....

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Dash cams, front and rear, and you'd have a license plate and maybe a clear
pic of the driver's face.  Hypothetically file a police report and get a
small claims court ruling, and at least you'd have a (small) trap laid for
them.

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Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 6:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Wife has surgery this morning, so we’re on our way to the hospital when an
> older Lexus bumps into me in the right rear as we’re going around a turn on
> a surface street.  I’m ahead of them and there are no side streets for
> about 1/4 mile, so I keep going and turn off on the first side street.  I’m
> expecting them to follow me onto the side street as they’re behind me.  I
> wait, see lots of traffic go by, but no Lexus.  It’s clear that the Lexus
> has passed us and moved on.
>
> We were noticing that this Lexus had the reverse lights on all the time
> when they were ahead of us at a traffic light before we got bumped, so the
> assumption is that it was a beater without insurance.
>
> I’m pretty wired after the hit, as you might expect.  We decide to keep
> going after it’s clear the Lexus has disappeared.
>
> It’s still dark outside, but from what I could see when we got to the
> hospital the only damage is to the bumper below the metal on the right
> rear.  Once it gets light and the wife is in the OR I’m going to walk back
> out to the parking lot and have a look in the daylight.
>
> Car-Parts.com  has bumpers fairly close to me in
> good condition in my color for $400 and less.  Looks like I’ll need one…
>
> Grr.
>
> -D
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[MBZ] Monday....

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Wife has surgery this morning, so we’re on our way to the hospital when an 
older Lexus bumps into me in the right rear as we’re going around a turn on a 
surface street.  I’m ahead of them and there are no side streets for about 1/4 
mile, so I keep going and turn off on the first side street.  I’m expecting 
them to follow me onto the side street as they’re behind me.  I wait, see lots 
of traffic go by, but no Lexus.  It’s clear that the Lexus has passed us and 
moved on.

We were noticing that this Lexus had the reverse lights on all the time when 
they were ahead of us at a traffic light before we got bumped, so the 
assumption is that it was a beater without insurance.

I’m pretty wired after the hit, as you might expect.  We decide to keep going 
after it’s clear the Lexus has disappeared.

It’s still dark outside, but from what I could see when we got to the hospital 
the only damage is to the bumper below the metal on the right rear.  Once it 
gets light and the wife is in the OR I’m going to walk back out to the parking 
lot and have a look in the daylight.

Car-Parts.com  has bumpers fairly close to me in good 
condition in my color for $400 and less.  Looks like I’ll need one…

Grr.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] 1968 MERCEDES BENZ 230 FINTAIL - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive sale

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing….

-D


> On Feb 5, 2018, at 5:42 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow, 4speed, sunroof, and AC!  What a rare car.
> 
> But that repaint... oh god what were they thinking?!
> 
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 5:16 AM Dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Jaime, go get this!
>> 
>> 
>> https://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/d/1968-mercedes-benz-230-fintail/6475029288.html
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
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