Re: [MBZ] Get Real Time

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Total guess but I’m thinking the jap car would probably be more reliable over a 
likely over-complicated hunmobile. 

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> On Jul 28, 2019, at 11:34 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 3285lb for the merc, 3200lb for the accord.
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 8:29 PM Karl Wittnebel  wrote:
>> 
>> Tiny? Maybe price them out per pound and go with whichever one is cheaper.
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 6:47 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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>> 
>>> What’s an A220?
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jul 28, 2019, at 9:44 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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 The time is come to get SWMBO A car to drive around. She is weary of
>>> driving my pick up. She wants a new A220. She also really likes the new
>>> design of the accord sport.
 Putting aside a 40 year bias for Mercedes, and judging these two cars
>>> solely on what they are at this moment in time, I wonder which one is the
>>> better buy?
 
 Bob R
 
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Re: [MBZ] Get Real Time

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

3285lb for the merc, 3200lb for the accord.

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 8:29 PM Karl Wittnebel  wrote:

> Tiny? Maybe price them out per pound and go with whichever one is cheaper.
>
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 6:47 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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>
>> What’s an A220?
>>
>> -D
>>
>> > On Jul 28, 2019, at 9:44 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > The time is come to get SWMBO A car to drive around. She is weary of
>> driving my pick up. She wants a new A220. She also really likes the new
>> design of the accord sport.
>> > Putting aside a 40 year bias for Mercedes, and judging these two cars
>> solely on what they are at this moment in time, I wonder which one is the
>> better buy?
>> >
>> > Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Get Real Time

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Tiny? Maybe price them out per pound and go with whichever one is cheaper.

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 6:47 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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> What’s an A220?
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 28, 2019, at 9:44 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The time is come to get SWMBO A car to drive around. She is weary of
> driving my pick up. She wants a new A220. She also really likes the new
> design of the accord sport.
> > Putting aside a 40 year bias for Mercedes, and judging these two cars
> solely on what they are at this moment in time, I wonder which one is the
> better buy?
> >
> > Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Cahrs

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> Good candidate for a 648 swap then.
>
> Lord the e420's electrical gremlins are getting me down. It limps on the
> nanny, but never with me or the mechanic. So we have no idea why because
> the codes clear every time she restarts it or shuts it down. I will have
> her drive straight to the mechanic next time so he can hook it up.
>
> Then the 123 wagon decides to melt its AC fuse holder and fuse right
> through the fuse block. I thought fuses were supposed to prevent this type
> of behavior? It was even a shiny new copper one. We had a hot spell and the
> nanny has a way of making cars not work. I figured the 123 is the most
> robust thing we have, so I put her in that. She likes her AC, that's for
> sure. The control unit is only 5 years old or so. AC was working like a
> champ for me on Thursday and the next day no blow. I got in it on Friday
> and thought someone had been smoking in it, but she is a 7th day Adventist
> and they dont go in for that sort of thing. Opened it up to replace the
> fuse today and holy Toledo it looked like a little blue torpedo boring into
> the melted goo. I guess I need a new fuse block now. And who knows what
> else.
>
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 4:58 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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>> The tell is oil consumption. if it’s sucking oil, run away as if you’re
>> hair is on fire.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 28, 2019, at 7:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > It could still be a rod bender.  Looks Ok but price needs to be around
>> $2500 maybe.
>> >
>> > On 7/28/2019 6:48 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
>> >> At that mileage i guess the 350SDL is not a rodbender??
>> >>
>> >> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> >> Wickford RI
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>> >> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 6:59 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
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>> >>> 1991 Mercedes diesel 350SDL Florida car 186000 miles no rust
>> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Compressor water trap?

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U want copper to cool the gas thru several up and down loops.

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 5:34 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> Charlotte Pipe says not to run compressed gasses in iron, Craig posted a
> catalog page earlier.
> I guess only steel and copper fail non catastrophically?
> Mitch.
> > On July 28, 2019 at 5:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> > Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. And how it would shatter into
> hundreds of little shards when it breaks.
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> > I’ll go with iron pipe, thank you.
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[MBZ] Uhhh, here is a euroiffic 94 605 5 speed wagon

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I wonder how much it will end up at

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-250D-Wagon/202744862026?hash=item2f3489154a:g:584AAOSwm3ldPOeg


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Re: [MBZ] Impress Your Clients!

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What’s the issue with the Sirocco boys?

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> On Jul 28, 2019, at 10:16 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes 
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> The club event for the day was to take our cars to a gathering of the other 
> marques from the fatherland for a gathering.  Porsche, BMW, Audi, Benz, and 
> the bastard children…VW who are not part of the group, but invited the Bug 
> bunch for some good reason.  No bugs showed up.  The  Sirrocco and other 
> tuner boys are the reason VW is not asked to participate.
> 
> Either way….  Only three of the auto union boys show.  Many BMW and Porsche, 
> and a valiant effort by the benz people.  The Children of Ferdinand provided 
> a clear genetic heritage with their turtle looking cars.  The Beemers also 
> sort of had a viable lineage from the 2002 and on into the cars of the late 
> 90’s.  Mercedes looked like real cars for the classic examples, but the post 
> y2k stuff all looked generic korean, like the newer examples of each of the 
> other brands
> 
> clay 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 28, 2019, at 2:25 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Of all the modern era Mercedes, I am less impressed with that body and car
>> than any of them. To my eye, it is an over priced Mazda Miata with a star
>> on the grill... and no leg room or head room.
>> YMMV, but no room in the stable for that one.
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap fun

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Ran like a scalded cat once the fresh injectors were in.

clay

> On Jul 28, 2019, at 5:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> And what a difference that made, didn’t it?
> 
> -D (not the saint or angel responsible)
> 
> 
>> On Jul 28, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> There was somebody, a Saint and Angel, on this list who did a rebuild of 
>> injector for me.  Sent them back within 5psi matched.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 26, 2019, at 8:29 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wonder what they think of having new injectors pop tested and matched to 
>>> within 5 bar?
>>> Kevin and hillsboro, Oregon
>>> 
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 On Jul 26, 2019, at 8:19 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 18:55:27 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
  wrote:
 
> Yah some dude went off telling me how turbo rotating assemblies dont
> need to be balanced and Kent has sold hundreds of turbo rebuild kits
> and they dont need to be balanced because these "aren't race cars going
> 7000rpm". I opined that this must mean every turbo rebuild shop in
> existence must be doing it wrong and wasting money on balancing
> machines. No reply yet.
 
 Yes, there certainly is a disconnect between their ideas and the real
 world.
 
 The 15 liter engine in my Kenworth is even less a race car going 7000 RPM,
 but the much-larger-than-Mercedes turbo it has sure spins up to many tens
 of thousands of RPM.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Impress Your Clients!

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

The club event for the day was to take our cars to a gathering of the other 
marques from the fatherland for a gathering.  Porsche, BMW, Audi, Benz, and the 
bastard children…VW who are not part of the group, but invited the Bug bunch 
for some good reason.  No bugs showed up.  The  Sirrocco and other tuner boys 
are the reason VW is not asked to participate.

Either way….  Only three of the auto union boys show.  Many BMW and Porsche, 
and a valiant effort by the benz people.  The Children of Ferdinand provided a 
clear genetic heritage with their turtle looking cars.  The Beemers also sort 
of had a viable lineage from the 2002 and on into the cars of the late 90’s.  
Mercedes looked like real cars for the classic examples, but the post y2k stuff 
all looked generic korean, like the newer examples of each of the other brands

clay 



> On Jul 28, 2019, at 2:25 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Of all the modern era Mercedes, I am less impressed with that body and car
> than any of them. To my eye, it is an over priced Mazda Miata with a star
> on the grill... and no leg room or head room.
> YMMV, but no room in the stable for that one.

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Re: [MBZ] Get Real Time

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> On Jul 28, 2019, at 6:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> What’s an A220?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 28, 2019, at 9:44 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The time is come to get SWMBO A car to drive around. She is weary of driving 
>> my pick up. She wants a new A220. She also really likes the new design of 
>> the accord sport. 
>> Putting aside a 40 year bias for Mercedes, and judging these two cars solely 
>> on what they are at this moment in time, I wonder which one is the better 
>> buy? 
>> 
>> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Get Real Time

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What’s an A220?

-D

> On Jul 28, 2019, at 9:44 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The time is come to get SWMBO A car to drive around. She is weary of driving 
> my pick up. She wants a new A220. She also really likes the new design of the 
> accord sport. 
> Putting aside a 40 year bias for Mercedes, and judging these two cars solely 
> on what they are at this moment in time, I wonder which one is the better 
> buy? 
> 
> Bob R
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[MBZ] Get Real Time

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

The time is come to get SWMBO A car to drive around. She is weary of driving my 
pick up. She wants a new A220. She also really likes the new design of the 
accord sport. 
Putting aside a 40 year bias for Mercedes, and judging these two cars solely on 
what they are at this moment in time, I wonder which one is the better buy? 

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] OT lawnmower engine

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Were that it were only the carb!

I got back to SEA last night and it was too dark to make out the mess that four 
weeks of unattended lawn growth was going to be found in the morning.  Last 
home visit I was confronted with almost waist high grass after near five months 
of absence.  I came right from the airport in May, and went straight into the 
shed to fire up the mower, with a massive reduction in grass.   I made a 
pilgrimage to ANC and 28 days later… I pull out the plug in mower and the dang 
thing does not want to light off.  I mess about with the  GFCI the cord is 
plugged into, take a gander at the fuse box, finding no offending breakers, and 
 swap out the cord, just in case, as I see the one on the machine has a knick.  
I do the safety dance with levers and cords and this thing utters a moo sort of 
noise and nothing more again.

Maybe the spiders have become gremlins and I unscrew the cover to find the 
Black & Decker 681064-01 Switch has lost a mount.  Seems the hot lead had burnt 
itself out over many years and now I must put a fresh switch in.  In the heat 
of the moment I was going to just toss the whole machine in a Goodwill bin.


clay 


> On Jul 27, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
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> 
> Exactly.  Happened to my edger.  Yes; replace oil.  You can get a carb 
> rebuild kit that includes the rubber washer that seals against the needle 
> valve but replacing the carb (with new) is a better option, IMO.  Google 
> mower model or look on eBay.  I rebuilt twice before I replaced the whole 
> carb (which didn't cost much more than the kit).
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mitch Haley 
>> 
>> Stuck float, debris in the needle seat area, etc, would pour it in until the 
>> fuel
>> level was below the carburetor.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Compressor water trap?

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

BTDT in a manner.  I was not wanting to pay MAACO lots of cash to paint the SD, 
so I figured I might use this as an opportunity to learn vs tossing cash at the 
issue.

I have a 29 gallon (non HF) compressor, which  I thought would be stout enough 
to shoot paint with no trouble.  It was a tad small, but did get the task done 
with just enough pressure per minute over extended time.

I used disposable filters/traps on the guns, and set up a filter and trap in 
the line to keep any moisture from polluting the line.  I have normal hose for 
tools and purchased a hose for paint only that would not get any moisture in it 
to shoot paint and clear.  My thought was that the inline unit would trap the 
wet from the compressor and the gun end could stop any moistness that might 
have had a chance to happen in the line while it was not being used on a warm 
day or between warm and not warm days.  I did blow the lines prior to hooking 
up guns and there was a bit of spittle with the hose end air wand that went 
away after two minutes of resolute flushing.

Since both urathane and POR-15 are hydroscopic (sp as to chemical reactions to 
moisture) I would think that a dry line would be desired for application of 
these products


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> On Jul 27, 2019, at 7:21 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Have you guys ever added a compressor water trap before?I want to undercoat 
> my cars, the plan is to buy a Fluid Film kit, it comes with a gun and goop. 
> In the future I don't know if I'll use Fluid Film but the kit seems pretty 
> nice. 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QVH3PT8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2D9Y5DFCXS0QH&psc=1
> Anyway I was thinking I ought to put a water trap on my compressor, I 
> probably don't want water mixed with the goop.
> Anybody got a BTDT for this one? Amazon has a bunch of choices.
> I've got a 21 gallon Harbor Freight compressor: 
> https://www.harborfreight.com/air-tools-compressors/air-compressors-tanks/21-gal-25-hp-125-psi-cast-iron-vertical-air-compressor-61454.htmlThe
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> tools pretty good.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Compressor water trap?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Charlotte Pipe says not to run compressed gasses in iron, Craig posted a 
catalog page earlier. 
I guess only steel and copper fail non catastrophically?
Mitch. 
> On July 28, 2019 at 5:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. And how it would shatter into hundreds 
> of little shards when it breaks.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Why would somebody advertise this as a parts car?

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I am.  I do not understand their charges, and given the number of times I am 
relisting stuff to CL, I was not sure if they were planning to ding me for each 
renewal on a weekly basis, or if it was a one time charge, maybe when the 
listing expires, they will try to snag another fiver.  That dang SD was on CL 
for over ten months.  That would be lots of five dollar bills

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> On Jul 27, 2019, at 4:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Does CL not charge for parts cars versus “whole” cars? Could someone be so 
> cheap as to not be willing to drop $5 to advertise a car?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jul 26, 2019, at 10:05 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> He does not want to pay CL to list the car as a real car.  The selling price 
>> tells you that it is a fine car, not some scrap yard bound wonder.  Looks 
>> like there is nothing glaringly wrong with it, and a test ride will probably 
>> bear that out
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 26, 2019, at 5:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

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I got to say, that deep blue is stunning.

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 12:32 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
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> Well done !
> Now, enjoy it at leisure.
>
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 6:22 AM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
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> > (thumbs up)
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> > On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:13 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> >
> > > Updates to the blog, probably the last for a while….
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html
> > > <
> > >
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
> > > <
> > >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Biomass emissions error

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I suspect the point was that CO2 is an insignificant aspect of the total gas 
mix and can climb to stupid levels with minimal impact, as the real culprit of 
green gas houses is water vapor.  Clouds and lack thereof will have more 
impact, and there is co-relation, but no obvious causation between increases of 
carbon and how it might make more  water vapor hang around.  

Clouds might create inversion layers, trapping heat.   But are more likely to 
increase albedo, decreasing solar heating of the ground and oceans.  Another 
point for carbon is that is is piped into green houses to make the plants 
happy.  Happy plants trap more carbon.  Chopped down trees release more carbon. 
 Not counting the carbon coming from burning trees is silly, as the same acre 
of land will most likely trap the same amount of carbon on an annual basis be 
it full of trees or hemp.   Thus selling carbon credits for trees is wonky, as 
you could just as well sell  credits for the hot house tomatoes or corn, or 
even soy beans

clay monroe

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> On Jul 26, 2019, at 10:00 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  
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> 
>> Clay wrote:
> 
>> http://techworldupdate.com/the-plain-error-of-biomass-emissions/
> 
> Whew!  That was hard to read.  Seems like it's the output of
> Bablefish  - or whatever the computer translate thing is called
> now.
> 
> Curious.  I don't see the link between CO2 and climate change, so
> the idea of transporting huge quantities of wood chips from north
> america to England seems especially foolish.
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap fun

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And what a difference that made, didn’t it?

-D (not the saint or angel responsible)


> On Jul 28, 2019, at 8:17 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes  
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> 
> There was somebody, a Saint and Angel, on this list who did a rebuild of 
> injector for me.  Sent them back within 5psi matched.
> 
> clay
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 26, 2019, at 8:29 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I wonder what they think of having new injectors pop tested and matched to 
>> within 5 bar?
>> Kevin and hillsboro, Oregon
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jul 26, 2019, at 8:19 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 18:55:27 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Yah some dude went off telling me how turbo rotating assemblies dont
 need to be balanced and Kent has sold hundreds of turbo rebuild kits
 and they dont need to be balanced because these "aren't race cars going
 7000rpm". I opined that this must mean every turbo rebuild shop in
 existence must be doing it wrong and wasting money on balancing
 machines. No reply yet.
>>> 
>>> Yes, there certainly is a disconnect between their ideas and the real
>>> world.
>>> 
>>> The 15 liter engine in my Kenworth is even less a race car going 7000 RPM,
>>> but the much-larger-than-Mercedes turbo it has sure spins up to many tens
>>> of thousands of RPM.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap fun

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

There was somebody, a Saint and Angel, on this list who did a rebuild of 
injector for me.  Sent them back within 5psi matched.

clay



> On Jul 26, 2019, at 8:29 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I wonder what they think of having new injectors pop tested and matched to 
> within 5 bar?
> Kevin and hillsboro, Oregon
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 26, 2019, at 8:19 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 18:55:27 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yah some dude went off telling me how turbo rotating assemblies dont
>>> need to be balanced and Kent has sold hundreds of turbo rebuild kits
>>> and they dont need to be balanced because these "aren't race cars going
>>> 7000rpm". I opined that this must mean every turbo rebuild shop in
>>> existence must be doing it wrong and wasting money on balancing
>>> machines. No reply yet.
>> 
>> Yes, there certainly is a disconnect between their ideas and the real
>> world.
>> 
>> The 15 liter engine in my Kenworth is even less a race car going 7000 RPM,
>> but the much-larger-than-Mercedes turbo it has sure spins up to many tens
>> of thousands of RPM.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Biomass emissions error

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I am  still not  clued in to if the coal folks are a client.  I do know they 
have been digging the stuff for ages, since 1947 or some such.  Family bidness 
on its fourth generation.  GG-Pa started it with a D2 dozer.

> On Jul 26, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I can hook your SWMBO up with the technology to make fuel out of that stuff.  
> not mine etc... But I know people.
> 
> Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote on 7/26/19 7:50 PM:
>> http://techworldupdate.com/the-plain-error-of-biomass-emissions/
>> 
>> With all the wildfires around AK and the attendant smoke troubles, I suspect 
>> that clearing up the duff and other combustables would allow them to be used 
>> to make “green” power instead of wasting kilowatts.  I think the same might 
>> be said for a few other states (CA, MT, ID, OR, etc) with mandates for 
>> “Clean” energy.
>> 
>> SWMBA was out visiting clients in the bush.  Mines this time.  One was the 
>> coal mine that provides some power for Fairbanks.  She had to cut short the 
>> trip due to the smoke being too thick for a few of the planned events this 
>> week to take place.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel fun

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I just got back into SEA last night.  THANK THE LORD I filled the tank prior to 
leaving in June.  I got real used to the low ball pricing up in GWN of 
$2.83/gal.  Drove to the MBCA’s shared event with the Porched, Beamer, and 
Aw-Duh clubs (the Bug boys were invited but chose not to show up).  #2 was 
$4.25, same as 92 octane.

clay


> On Jul 26, 2019, at 7:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> 
> IN N. WI, Dissel is cheaper than Benzin.   2.79 vs 2.84.Amongst the 
> yoopers, Benzin is still higher, until you get to Escanaba.  It must be a 
> terminal for tankers, because Benzin was almost reasonable. 2.64. Highest I 
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Re: [MBZ] Cahrs

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The tell is oil consumption. if it’s sucking oil, run away as if you’re hair is 
on fire.

-D


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> It could still be a rod bender.  Looks Ok but price needs to be around $2500 
> maybe.
> 
> On 7/28/2019 6:48 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
>> At that mileage i guess the 350SDL is not a rodbender??
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cahrs

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It could still be a rod bender.  Looks Ok but price needs to be around 
$2500 maybe.


On 7/28/2019 6:48 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

At that mileage i guess the 350SDL is not a rodbender??

Dwight Giles Jr.
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Re: [MBZ] Cahrs

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Pretty unlikely.

-D


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> At that mileage i guess the 350SDL is not a rodbender??
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Re: [MBZ] Cahrs

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At that mileage i guess the 350SDL is not a rodbender??

Dwight Giles Jr.
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[MBZ] Cahrs

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

1991 Mercedes diesel 350SDL Florida car 186000 miles no rust

https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/6942070219.html
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Re: [MBZ] FB Group Does Kleb Well

[MG via Mercedes]

Isn't that an Internet provider? How do I turn mine up? 
I need them to give me faster Internet.


MG

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Turn up the IP. (What’s an IP?)

--FT
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On Jul 28, 2019, at 1:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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Sold his W124 diesel. Can’t wait to see it with a hood stack, rolling coal.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Compressor water trap?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

So, use schedule 80 plastic with threads.   You can always glue the 
threads for belt and suspender.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 7/28/19 4:41 PM:

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. And how it would shatter into hundreds of 
little shards when it breaks.

I’ll go with iron pipe, thank you.

-D





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Re: [MBZ] Impress Your Clients!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I can't understand why anyone other than Alonzo Hawk would ever buy one 
of those fugly things.   (Hawk reference: watch the movie, Herbie Rides 
Again)


Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 7/28/19 4:40 PM:

"and I'm not dumb."  Great way to end the ad.

I'm very tempted to go a little further, but I'm resisting, trying to be nice, maybe the 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Compressor water trap?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. And how it would shatter into hundreds of 
little shards when it breaks.

I’ll go with iron pipe, thank you.

-D

> On Jul 28, 2019, at 5:36 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Personally the idea of PVC compressed air piping scares the crap out of me.
> If you think a shotgun is loud, think again.
> 
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 11:16 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:02:31 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> You might sleep better at night after viewing this "Schedule 40 Pressure
>>> Rating Chart"
>>> 
>>> 
>> http://www.heritageplastics.com/pvc-water-plumbing-pipe-east/pvc-schedule-40-pressure-dwv-pipe/
>>> 
>>> Those ratings might be lowered with factors such as age, heat, chemical
>>> exposure, or other things like vibration cycles. However the margins are
>>> quite high, considering average compressed air shop pressures.
>> 
>> See the warning box on the attached screenshot of a brochure on PVC pipe
>> by Charlotte Pipe and Foundry Company.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Impress Your Clients!

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

"and I'm not dumb."  Great way to end the ad. 

I'm very tempted to go a little further, but I'm resisting, trying to be nice, 
maybe the seller had no other way to respond but "Yes dear" when the car was 
purchased.
-- 
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On July 28, 2019 5:25:35 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes  
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>Of all the modern era Mercedes, I am less impressed with that body and
>car
>than any of them. To my eye, it is an over priced Mazda Miata with a
>star
>on the grill... and no leg room or head room.
>YMMV, but no room in the stable for that one.
>
>On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 2:19 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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>
>> Uh, no.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 28, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > BUT DOES SHE HAVE CLIENTS TO IMPRESS
>> >
>> > --FT
>> >
>> > On 7/28/19 5:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> >> 280. No thanks. I’m going to be shopping for one of these with a
>larger
>> displacement engine for the wife sometime soon. I would like to get
>her out
>> of the SL500 nd into something a little more modern.
>> >>
>> >> -D
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Jul 28, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Sold for over $52,000 new in 2006. That's over $66,000 in 2019
>> dollars. Now get here for 15% of that.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>>
>https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-helena-island-mercedes-hardtop/6943443790.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Compressor water trap?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Personally the idea of PVC compressed air piping scares the crap out of me.
If you think a shotgun is loud, think again.

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 11:16 PM Craig via Mercedes 
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> On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:02:31 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
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>
> > You might sleep better at night after viewing this "Schedule 40 Pressure
> > Rating Chart"
> >
> >
> http://www.heritageplastics.com/pvc-water-plumbing-pipe-east/pvc-schedule-40-pressure-dwv-pipe/
> >
> > Those ratings might be lowered with factors such as age, heat, chemical
> > exposure, or other things like vibration cycles. However the margins are
> > quite high, considering average compressed air shop pressures.
>
> See the warning box on the attached screenshot of a brochure on PVC pipe
> by Charlotte Pipe and Foundry Company.
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Re: [MBZ] ?

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Wilton I got a message about Soma but I wasnt sure what it was in reference
to.

The instrument cluster from your 300d lives on in my dashboard. Hope you
are doing OK.

Karl

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Re: [MBZ] Impress Your Clients!

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Of all the modern era Mercedes, I am less impressed with that body and car
than any of them. To my eye, it is an over priced Mazda Miata with a star
on the grill... and no leg room or head room.
YMMV, but no room in the stable for that one.

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 2:19 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Uh, no.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jul 28, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > BUT DOES SHE HAVE CLIENTS TO IMPRESS
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 7/28/19 5:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> 280. No thanks. I’m going to be shopping for one of these with a larger
> displacement engine for the wife sometime soon. I would like to get her out
> of the SL500 nd into something a little more modern.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jul 28, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Sold for over $52,000 new in 2006. That's over $66,000 in 2019
> dollars. Now get here for 15% of that.
> >>>
> >>>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-helena-island-mercedes-hardtop/6943443790.html
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Impress Your Clients!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Ah!  Yes!  THe rare parrot beak model.   Equipped with an even more rare 
German Zundfogle engine.


Here, Hol dis bag while I barf.


The original SLK is nice.   The parrot beak designer should be shot. 
(probably used to work for liberace.)


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 7/28/19 3:46 PM:
Sold for over $52,000 new in 2006. That's over $66,000 in 2019 
dollars. Now get here for 15% of that.


https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-helena-island-mercedes-hardtop/6943443790.html 






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Re: [MBZ] Impress Your Clients!

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Uh, no.

-D


> On Jul 28, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> BUT DOES SHE HAVE CLIENTS TO IMPRESS
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 7/28/19 5:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> 280. No thanks. I’m going to be shopping for one of these with a larger 
>> displacement engine for the wife sometime soon. I would like to get her out 
>> of the SL500 nd into something a little more modern.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 28, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sold for over $52,000 new in 2006. That's over $66,000 in 2019 dollars. Now 
>>> get here for 15% of that.
>>> 
>>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-helena-island-mercedes-hardtop/6943443790.html
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Impress Your Clients!

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

BUT DOES SHE HAVE CLIENTS TO IMPRESS

--FT

On 7/28/19 5:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

280. No thanks. I’m going to be shopping for one of these with a larger 
displacement engine for the wife sometime soon. I would like to get her out of 
the SL500 nd into something a little more modern.

-D



On Jul 28, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Sold for over $52,000 new in 2006. That's over $66,000 in 2019 dollars. Now get 
here for 15% of that.

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-helena-island-mercedes-hardtop/6943443790.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT lawnmower engine

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Cool. Ya gotta love it. Not worth the effort to crack it open.

-D


> On Jul 28, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Order a brand new carb for $17.88 from the isle of large women.
> 
> On 7/28/2019 3:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> I can see that.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 28, 2019, at 3:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> As cheap as a carb is for one of these I don't think its even worth trying 
>>> to fix the one on it, just replace it.
>>> 
>>> On 7/28/2019 2:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 I think the previous diagnosis was probably spot on. The float in the 
 carburetor is stuck open. Either open the carb and repair the float or 
 replace the carb.
 
 -D
 


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Re: [MBZ] Impress Your Clients!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

280. No thanks. I’m going to be shopping for one of these with a larger 
displacement engine for the wife sometime soon. I would like to get her out of 
the SL500 nd into something a little more modern.

-D


> On Jul 28, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sold for over $52,000 new in 2006. That's over $66,000 in 2019 dollars. Now 
> get here for 15% of that.
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-helena-island-mercedes-hardtop/6943443790.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT lawnmower engine

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Order a brand new carb for $17.88 from the isle of large women.

On 7/28/2019 3:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I can see that.

-D



On Jul 28, 2019, at 3:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

As cheap as a carb is for one of these I don't think its even worth trying to 
fix the one on it, just replace it.

On 7/28/2019 2:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I think the previous diagnosis was probably spot on. The float in the 
carburetor is stuck open. Either open the carb and repair the float or replace 
the carb.

-D



On Jul 28, 2019, at 3:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

So I drained nearly 3/4 of a gallon of gas out of the crank case then filled it 
with oil.  I pulled the spark plug and gas poured out of it.  Cranked it over 
with the plug out and blew the rest of the gas out.  Put the plug back in and 
engine now turns over and sounds fine but still wont start.  Carb is probalby 
stuck full open or something.  Is there any reason I should not just go ahead 
and spend $20 to buy a new carb and see what happens?

On 7/27/2019 6:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

As it turns out he installed a fuel shutoff valve because he was having 
problems with fuel draining into the crank case when it sets. So what he would 
do is close the valve then let it run till it ran out of fuel. I’m wondering if 
the last time he used it he forgot to shut the valve. In any case I belief the 
best course of action is to drain the crank case and refill, pull the plug and 
blow out the fuel then see if it starts. If all is good then I will address the 
carb.

Sent from my iPhone


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wrote:

Exactly.  Happened to my edger.  Yes; replace oil.  You can get a carb rebuild 
kit that includes the rubber washer that seals against the needle valve but 
replacing the carb (with new) is a better option, IMO.  Google mower model or 
look on eBay.  I rebuilt twice before I replaced the whole carb (which didn't 
cost much more than the kit).


-Original Message-
From: Mitch Haley

Stuck float, debris in the needle seat area, etc, would pour it in until the 
fuel
level was below the carburetor.

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[MBZ] Secret Message For Wilton WUZ ?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Wilton.

Went through Kinchloe MI on Friday.   Looks like the old AFB is now the 
county International Airport.




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[MBZ] Impress Your Clients!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Sold for over $52,000 new in 2006. That's over $66,000 in 2019 dollars. 
Now get here for 15% of that.


https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-helena-island-mercedes-hardtop/6943443790.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT lawnmower engine

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I can see that.

-D


> On Jul 28, 2019, at 3:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> As cheap as a carb is for one of these I don't think its even worth trying to 
> fix the one on it, just replace it.
> 
> On 7/28/2019 2:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> I think the previous diagnosis was probably spot on. The float in the 
>> carburetor is stuck open. Either open the carb and repair the float or 
>> replace the carb.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 28, 2019, at 3:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I drained nearly 3/4 of a gallon of gas out of the crank case then 
>>> filled it with oil.  I pulled the spark plug and gas poured out of it.  
>>> Cranked it over with the plug out and blew the rest of the gas out.  Put 
>>> the plug back in and engine now turns over and sounds fine but still wont 
>>> start.  Carb is probalby stuck full open or something.  Is there any reason 
>>> I should not just go ahead and spend $20 to buy a new carb and see what 
>>> happens?
>>> 
>>> On 7/27/2019 6:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 As it turns out he installed a fuel shutoff valve because he was having 
 problems with fuel draining into the crank case when it sets. So what he 
 would do is close the valve then let it run till it ran out of fuel. I’m 
 wondering if the last time he used it he forgot to shut the valve. In any 
 case I belief the best course of action is to drain the crank case and 
 refill, pull the plug and blow out the fuel then see if it starts. If all 
 is good then I will address the carb.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jul 27, 2019, at 6:24 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Exactly.  Happened to my edger.  Yes; replace oil.  You can get a carb 
> rebuild kit that includes the rubber washer that seals against the needle 
> valve but replacing the carb (with new) is a better option, IMO.  Google 
> mower model or look on eBay.  I rebuilt twice before I replaced the whole 
> carb (which didn't cost much more than the kit).
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mitch Haley
>> 
>> Stuck float, debris in the needle seat area, etc, would pour it in until 
>> the fuel
>> level was below the carburetor.
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Re: [MBZ] OT lawnmower engine

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As cheap as a carb is for one of these I don't think its even worth 
trying to fix the one on it, just replace it.


On 7/28/2019 2:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I think the previous diagnosis was probably spot on. The float in the 
carburetor is stuck open. Either open the carb and repair the float or replace 
the carb.

-D



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So I drained nearly 3/4 of a gallon of gas out of the crank case then filled it 
with oil.  I pulled the spark plug and gas poured out of it.  Cranked it over 
with the plug out and blew the rest of the gas out.  Put the plug back in and 
engine now turns over and sounds fine but still wont start.  Carb is probalby 
stuck full open or something.  Is there any reason I should not just go ahead 
and spend $20 to buy a new carb and see what happens?

On 7/27/2019 6:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

As it turns out he installed a fuel shutoff valve because he was having 
problems with fuel draining into the crank case when it sets. So what he would 
do is close the valve then let it run till it ran out of fuel. I’m wondering if 
the last time he used it he forgot to shut the valve. In any case I belief the 
best course of action is to drain the crank case and refill, pull the plug and 
blow out the fuel then see if it starts. If all is good then I will address the 
carb.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 27, 2019, at 6:24 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes  
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Exactly.  Happened to my edger.  Yes; replace oil.  You can get a carb rebuild 
kit that includes the rubber washer that seals against the needle valve but 
replacing the carb (with new) is a better option, IMO.  Google mower model or 
look on eBay.  I rebuilt twice before I replaced the whole carb (which didn't 
cost much more than the kit).


-Original Message-
From: Mitch Haley

Stuck float, debris in the needle seat area, etc, would pour it in until the 
fuel
level was below the carburetor.

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Re: [MBZ] OT lawnmower engine

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I think the previous diagnosis was probably spot on. The float in the 
carburetor is stuck open. Either open the carb and repair the float or replace 
the carb.

-D


> On Jul 28, 2019, at 3:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So I drained nearly 3/4 of a gallon of gas out of the crank case then filled 
> it with oil.  I pulled the spark plug and gas poured out of it.  Cranked it 
> over with the plug out and blew the rest of the gas out.  Put the plug back 
> in and engine now turns over and sounds fine but still wont start.  Carb is 
> probalby stuck full open or something.  Is there any reason I should not just 
> go ahead and spend $20 to buy a new carb and see what happens?
> 
> On 7/27/2019 6:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> As it turns out he installed a fuel shutoff valve because he was having 
>> problems with fuel draining into the crank case when it sets. So what he 
>> would do is close the valve then let it run till it ran out of fuel. I’m 
>> wondering if the last time he used it he forgot to shut the valve. In any 
>> case I belief the best course of action is to drain the crank case and 
>> refill, pull the plug and blow out the fuel then see if it starts. If all is 
>> good then I will address the carb.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 27, 2019, at 6:24 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Exactly.  Happened to my edger.  Yes; replace oil.  You can get a carb 
>>> rebuild kit that includes the rubber washer that seals against the needle 
>>> valve but replacing the carb (with new) is a better option, IMO.  Google 
>>> mower model or look on eBay.  I rebuilt twice before I replaced the whole 
>>> carb (which didn't cost much more than the kit).
>>> 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mitch Haley
 
 Stuck float, debris in the needle seat area, etc, would pour it in until 
 the fuel
 level was below the carburetor.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT lawnmower engine

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So I drained nearly 3/4 of a gallon of gas out of the crank case then 
filled it with oil.  I pulled the spark plug and gas poured out of it.  
Cranked it over with the plug out and blew the rest of the gas out.  Put 
the plug back in and engine now turns over and sounds fine but still 
wont start.  Carb is probalby stuck full open or something.  Is there 
any reason I should not just go ahead and spend $20 to buy a new carb 
and see what happens?


On 7/27/2019 6:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

As it turns out he installed a fuel shutoff valve because he was having 
problems with fuel draining into the crank case when it sets. So what he would 
do is close the valve then let it run till it ran out of fuel. I’m wondering if 
the last time he used it he forgot to shut the valve. In any case I belief the 
best course of action is to drain the crank case and refill, pull the plug and 
blow out the fuel then see if it starts. If all is good then I will address the 
carb.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 27, 2019, at 6:24 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes  
wrote:

Exactly.  Happened to my edger.  Yes; replace oil.  You can get a carb rebuild 
kit that includes the rubber washer that seals against the needle valve but 
replacing the carb (with new) is a better option, IMO.  Google mower model or 
look on eBay.  I rebuilt twice before I replaced the whole carb (which didn't 
cost much more than the kit).


-Original Message-
From: Mitch Haley

Stuck float, debris in the needle seat area, etc, would pour it in until the 
fuel
level was below the carburetor.

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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Pokes FB Guys

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And he’s responding appropriately. Good boy. There’s hope for him yet.

-D


> On Jul 28, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I just re-schooled him in a nice way. Gentle nudging may be more effective 
> that a full-on approach. I’m going to dig into the lubrication spec sheets 
> tonight and see if I can find supporting documentation. That would put the 
> nail in the coffin.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jul 28, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It’s because Jaime tried to school him in a different thread but he knew 
>> better. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 28, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting to see the list guru bring up a transmission fluid thread. He 
>>> may actually be learning... Or not. 
>>> 
>>> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1444767035590031?view=permalink&id=2333127410087318
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Pokes FB Guys

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I just re-schooled him in a nice way. Gentle nudging may be more effective that 
a full-on approach. I’m going to dig into the lubrication spec sheets tonight 
and see if I can find supporting documentation. That would put the nail in the 
coffin.

-D


> On Jul 28, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It’s because Jaime tried to school him in a different thread but he knew 
> better. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 28, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting to see the list guru bring up a transmission fluid thread. He 
>> may actually be learning... Or not. 
>> 
>> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1444767035590031?view=permalink&id=2333127410087318
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Pokes FB Guys

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It’s because Jaime tried to school him in a different thread but he knew 
better. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Interesting to see the list guru bring up a transmission fluid thread. He may 
> actually be learning... Or not. 
> 
> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1444767035590031?view=permalink&id=2333127410087318
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Pokes FB Guys

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Interesting to see the list guru bring up a transmission fluid thread. He may 
actually be learning... Or not. 

https://m.facebook.com/groups/1444767035590031?view=permalink&id=2333127410087318

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Re: [MBZ] FB Group Does Kleb Well

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I have seen some of the dumbest questions asked over there.  Some are so 
dumb that if you have to ask the question then you should not be 
operating a car.


On 7/28/2019 1:29 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Turn up the IP. (What’s an IP?)

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On Jul 28, 2019, at 1:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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Sold his W124 diesel. Can’t wait to see it with a hood stack, rolling coal.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] FB Group Does Kleb Well

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Turn up the IP. (What’s an IP?)

--FT
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> On Jul 28, 2019, at 1:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sold his W124 diesel. Can’t wait to see it with a hood stack, rolling coal.
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] FB Group Does Kleb Well

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Sold his W124 diesel. Can’t wait to see it with a hood stack, rolling coal.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Pokes FB Guys

[MG via Mercedes]

Wow!!! I didn't know that. You could even put another 
hole in the hood and put an up high intake on, no need 
for an air cleaner, the air is clean up there. Then you 
can ford streams up to 3 or 4 feet deep!!!


MG



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Gotta love the 400 HP and 50 mpg one gets with an exhaust stack out 
the hood.


-D



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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Ok, you're in our good graces again.  Time for popcorn.

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> (thumbs up)
>
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:13 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Updates to the blog, probably the last for a while….
> >
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html
> > <
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
> > <
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
> > >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Well done !
Now, enjoy it at leisure.

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> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:13 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> > Updates to the blog, probably the last for a while….
> >
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html
> > <
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
> > <
> >
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] The fun this morning from fakebook

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If you don't refresh your finnie blog in the next 7 days, the List will
repossess your car.

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> The finnie is right here in the garage. I’ve got a post I need to do for
> the blog, but other than that it’s just sitting for the most part. I drove
> it to work last week and drive it around locally. It drives nice with all
> the new rubber in the suspension.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jul 27, 2019, at 11:28 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > What on earth? Why would someone not want to post a car on BAT? Speaking
> if
> > which, where is the finny?
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 9:26 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Posted a link to closed BaT auctions with results to his post and I
> think
> >> he took it down. Awww.
> >>
> >> Good luck on eBay, buddy. That will end well. Not.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Jul 27, 2019, at 12:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Well, let’s remind them, then. After all, just trying to help!
> >>>
> >>> -D/Peeps
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Jul 27, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Yeah Peeps pointed out it was probably BaT material but not after eBay
> 
>  --FT
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> > On Jul 27, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Somebody posted their 300CD for sale for a crack head price. It was
> >> suggested their price is a little high but they might stand a chance if
> >> they listed it on BAT rather than ebay. The person because all rude
> talking
> >> about how they didn’t ask for opinions. I see all the comments are gone
> now
> >> so I guess they deleted their post and started again. This time nobody
> is
> >> commenting.
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Re: [MBZ] ?

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??

On 7/28/2019 11:24 AM, Wilton Strickland via Mercedes wrote:


?

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap fun

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How much did they offer?

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> morning. Kids were eating pbjs and we were sitting right next to the car.
> He said something like "your wagon is spectacular", which of course it
> isnt. I told him all the value is in the stuff you cant see. (Well, it does
> have new 15" Fuchs bundts on it and I washed it with the kids so it was
> pretty shiny and it has new meaty tires and a new leveling valve kit so it
> doesnt look all saggy butt like most of these cars do, but still). Anyway
> people are in love with the idea of these cars, way more than the reality.
> I guess that is what is driving the prices up.
>
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 5:51 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > no need for that.  Their cars will be in the junkyard within 12
> > months/10k miles.
> >
> > Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote on 7/26/19 10:29 PM:
> > > I wonder what they think of having new injectors pop tested and matched
> > to within 5 bar?
> > > Kevin and hillsboro, Oregon
> > >
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[MBZ] ?

[Wilton Strickland via Mercedes]

?

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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Pokes FB Guys

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yep

--FT

On 7/28/19 10:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Gotta love the 400 HP and 50 mpg one gets with an exhaust stack out the hood.

-D



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[MBZ] Kaleb Pokes FB Guys

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Gotta love the 400 HP and 50 mpg one gets with an exhaust stack out the hood.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

(thumbs up)

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:13 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Updates to the blog, probably the last for a while….
>
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html
> <
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html
> >
>
>
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
> <
> http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
> >
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[MBZ] Finnie Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Updates to the blog, probably the last for a while….

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/14_Rock(er)_and_Roll.html 


http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/7/28_The_End_of_the_Roadhtml
 


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Re: [MBZ] The fun this morning from fakebook

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The finnie is right here in the garage. I’ve got a post I need to do for the 
blog, but other than that it’s just sitting for the most part. I drove it to 
work last week and drive it around locally. It drives nice with all the new 
rubber in the suspension.

-D


> On Jul 27, 2019, at 11:28 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> What on earth? Why would someone not want to post a car on BAT? Speaking if
> which, where is the finny?
> 
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 9:26 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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>> Posted a link to closed BaT auctions with results to his post and I think
>> he took it down. Awww.
>> 
>> Good luck on eBay, buddy. That will end well. Not.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jul 27, 2019, at 12:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>>> Well, let’s remind them, then. After all, just trying to help!
>>> 
>>> -D/Peeps
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 27, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Yeah Peeps pointed out it was probably BaT material but not after eBay
 
 --FT
 Sent from iPhone
 
> On Jul 27, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Somebody posted their 300CD for sale for a crack head price. It was
>> suggested their price is a little high but they might stand a chance if
>> they listed it on BAT rather than ebay. The person because all rude talking
>> about how they didn’t ask for opinions. I see all the comments are gone now
>> so I guess they deleted their post and started again. This time nobody is
>> commenting.
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