Re: [MBZ] Time for an oil thread
Unless there is something in there that does the same thing as ZDDP, the lack of it will result in excessive wear of flat tappets. The vast majority of modern engines use roller tappets or some other hardened plate sliding lever for valves, it's the old school pushrod engines or "bucket" tappet engines like the Benz 600 series that have trouble without ZDDP. The additive increases wetting of the steel (that is, the oil stays on it rather than creeping off) so the tappets are dry when then engine is started and oil gets to them -- which usually takes a few revolutions. Rodders have fits finding proper oil, all those old Ford and Chevy pushrod engines have flat bottomed tappets. Most truck diesel engines also are pushrod engines -- at least the common Cummins, etc, and so oils certfied for them will contain the correct additives for flat tappets. Ditto oil for VW TDIs, at least up to the latest versions. The zinc is a problem for several reasons -- it's toxic in soluble form to aquatic life, and zinc oxide from tine inevitable combustion of blowby and cylinder wall carry up causes wear, it's very abrasive. However, unless someone has invented something in the last few years that does the same thing as ZDDP -- zinc diphenyl diphosphate I think -- you have to have it in flat tappet engines to avoid cam and tappet wear. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Time for an oil thread
Here's an oil thread in a different forum. Oil dealer chimes in at 12:43 this afternoon with some discussion on what ZDDP is, and why we shouldn't use it any more. I guess we can quit seeking out high zinc grades of Mobil One for our old engines? Should be a direct link to FoxTrot's post (he's one of the owners of a big oil distributor in Toledo and Lansing): https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Liquid-Moly-German-Motor-Oil/5-2359556/#i87194735 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CDI fixer-upper
That's above what I paid but my mileage was way higher. These cars are seldom offered under $13.5 On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 9:30 AM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > In Fred's hood. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 9:05 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Max saw this on COPART web site the other day. > > > > > > > https://www.copart.com/lot/44829300/clean-title-2014-mercedes-benz-glk-250-bluetec-ma-north-boston > > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > > > From: Max Dillon via Mercedes > > Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 4:41 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Cc: Max Dillon > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] CDI fixer-upper > > > > Well then I need to get busy and fix then sell my old '95 E300. Needs > new > > front ball joints, evap-ectomy, front left fender replaced and painted, > > maybe some other repair that I've forgotten. I have all the parts and > > materials, just need to make the time. > > Max Dillon > > Charleston SC > > > > Aug 16, 2020 1:18:54 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes >: > > > > > On Sun, August 16, 2020 1:10 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > > > > > >> So the used market low end is crazy around here, apparently. > > > > > > The low end worker pool is coming off 4 months of unprecedented welfare > > > payments, combined with 'screw the rent, we won't let them evict you'. > > > > > > So ATVs, boats, brand new brodozers if they can get financing with a > > > Trumpbux down payment, and sub $5k used cars have gone crazy, along > with > > > the firearms market. > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Changing glow plugs on OM602
While I am waiting for the new radiator to arrive I thought I would get on with doing other things on our '93 E300D/2.5 Turbo. This, of course, has brought up more questions! Does one need to remove the air intake crossover? If one does remove it, does one need any new gaskets? Any other suggestions on how to change the glow plugs? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CDI fixer-upper
In Fred's hood. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 9:05 AM Robert Massmann via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Max saw this on COPART web site the other day. > > > https://www.copart.com/lot/44829300/clean-title-2014-mercedes-benz-glk-250-bluetec-ma-north-boston > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Max Dillon via Mercedes > Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 4:41 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Max Dillon > Subject: Re: [MBZ] CDI fixer-upper > > Well then I need to get busy and fix then sell my old '95 E300. Needs new > front ball joints, evap-ectomy, front left fender replaced and painted, > maybe some other repair that I've forgotten. I have all the parts and > materials, just need to make the time. > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > > Aug 16, 2020 1:18:54 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes : > > > On Sun, August 16, 2020 1:10 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > > > >> So the used market low end is crazy around here, apparently. > > > > The low end worker pool is coming off 4 months of unprecedented welfare > > payments, combined with 'screw the rent, we won't let them evict you'. > > > > So ATVs, boats, brand new brodozers if they can get financing with a > > Trumpbux down payment, and sub $5k used cars have gone crazy, along with > > the firearms market. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CDI fixer-upper
$13,900 plus CoPart fees? How much did Andrew pay for his? Mitch On Mon, August 17, 2020 9:05 am, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote: > Max saw this on COPART web site the other day. > > > https://www.copart.com/lot/44829300/clean-title-2014-mercedes-benz-glk-25 > 0-bluetec-ma-north-boston ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CDI fixer-upper
Max saw this on COPART web site the other day. https://www.copart.com/lot/44829300/clean-title-2014-mercedes-benz-glk-250-bluetec-ma-north-boston Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Max Dillon via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 4:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Max Dillon Subject: Re: [MBZ] CDI fixer-upper Well then I need to get busy and fix then sell my old '95 E300. Needs new front ball joints, evap-ectomy, front left fender replaced and painted, maybe some other repair that I've forgotten. I have all the parts and materials, just need to make the time. Max Dillon Charleston SC Aug 16, 2020 1:18:54 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes : > On Sun, August 16, 2020 1:10 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > >> So the used market low end is crazy around here, apparently. > > The low end worker pool is coming off 4 months of unprecedented welfare > payments, combined with 'screw the rent, we won't let them evict you'. > > So ATVs, boats, brand new brodozers if they can get financing with a > Trumpbux down payment, and sub $5k used cars have gone crazy, along with > the firearms market. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who needs a spare to carry?
Looks like it ought to get great fuel mileage. But IIRC they don't. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] SL in my price range
https://athensga.craigslist.org/pts/d/athens-1977-mercedes-450-sl/7178882705.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crackhead R500
One of the receipts says "customer providing engine for replacement due to hole in engine block" Didn't change oil and threw a rod? Why keep the old engine? G Mann via Mercedes writes: > Why did the engine require replacement at only 102,000 miles? > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 10:55 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Wonder what the "old engine" adds to his price? >> >> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 9:54 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> > >> > >> https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/myrtle-beach-2006-mercedes-benz-r500/7176668966.html >> > >> > -- >> > --FT >> > >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crackhead R500
Why did the engine require replacement at only 102,000 miles? On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 10:55 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Wonder what the "old engine" adds to his price? > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 9:54 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/myrtle-beach-2006-mercedes-benz-r500/7176668966.html > > > > -- > > --FT > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116 windshield glass
I don't have a local dealer. Nearest one is in Carmel where the rich folks live, about 90 minutes drive depending on traffic. I'll get Dan the VIN though, I'm curious. Allan Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes writes: > Maybe your local dealer will give you an oem windshield sticker with > Daimlers signature on it. > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2020, 3:43 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Give me a VIN and I’ll look up the part number for it in the EPC. At least >> then we could see if it’s still available through Mercedes. >> >> -D >> >> > On Aug 16, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > I personally wouldn't care too much about OE glass; my 300SD is not a >> > show car by any means. I just assumed that a place like Safelite would >> > not have glass for that car since there's surely a very low demand for >> > it. I'll give them a call on Monday and also check with my insurance on >> > coverage. >> > >> > >> > Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes: >> > >> >> Even so, in Florida comprehensive insurance coves any glass >> >> damage. The catch is that you have to use the supplier that your >> >> insurance company approves, so that usually means one of the national >> >> chains like Safelite, who won’t use OE glass. I’ve lost that fight on >> >> several occasions. If you demand it, they charge you big bucks, like >> >> $300-$400, out of pocket on top of the glass cost. That may be what >> >> your dealer is doing. >> >> >> >> -D >> >> >> >>> On Aug 16, 2020, at 9:40 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Yeah, you've developed a good rapport, I have not. Pays to be nice! >> >>> Max Dillon >> >>> Charleston SC >> >>> >> >>> Aug 16, 2020 7:03:21 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > >: >> >>> >> Really? That’s a scam. I’ve bought glass from my dealer for my glass >> guys several times in the past. Nothing different than any other part. >> >> -D >> >> > On Aug 15, 2020, at 9:55 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > Ouch, that stinks. I'll bet there is aftermarket glass available. >> > >> > The MB dealer price for a windshield on my 124 sedan was only $500 >> for the >> > part, I thought that wasn't too bad, but they will only sell the >> glass with >> > an installation which is another $300 or more I'll bet. >> > >> > I'm convinced that the factory glass is thicker and will last longer. >> > - >> > Max >> > Charleston SC >> > >> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 10:15 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Driving the 300SD tonight, took a rock in the windshield and now I >> have >> >> the typical bullseye with about a 10 inch crack running vertically >> right >> >> through the center driver's side. >> >> >> >> Is this something that a place like Safelite would still be able to >> get >> >> glass for? Or am I looking at some kind of NOS search or used glass? >> >> >> >> Allan >> >> >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
