Re: [MBZ] Dang, here it is...

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Easy 5k flip on BAT

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 6:44 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> That is as  rare as a hen's pecker.
>
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> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 1:06 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
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> > It has the rare 5 cylinder 240D engine ...
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:42 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> >
> > > Not expensive if the sophisticated anti-theft hardware conveys with the
> > > car.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 7:43 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> > >
> > > > 1977 MERCEDES 240D
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Dang, here it is...

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

That is as  rare as a hen's pecker.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 1:06 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
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> It has the rare 5 cylinder 240D engine ...
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:42 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Not expensive if the sophisticated anti-theft hardware conveys with the
> > car.
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 7:43 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 1977 MERCEDES 240D
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/dallas-1977-mercedes-240d/7246641547.html
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Re: [MBZ] Might be worth the asking price

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It’s marked for a good stack

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[MBZ] Might be worth the asking price

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Re: [MBZ] Wagon

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Wonder what makes it a "project".

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Re: [MBZ] Tie rod end removal

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I like to cycle heat and cold on a rusted part. Mapp torch, then spritzer with 
ice water. Repeat three or four times. Maybe the last time it's hot, hold a 
birthday candle to the threads.

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Re: [MBZ] Tie rod end removal

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Can you post a photo or two so that we can see what you are up against? 
That might help with suggestions.


RB

On 14/12/2020 12:51 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
The rod end is rusted onto the tie rod and won't unscrew, at least not 
to the holding power of a 15mm open end wrench on the rod, or a 10" 
vice grip. My baby pipe wrench, with jaws thin enough to put on the 
little bit of rod that's exposed, had less grip than the vice grips.


I can try heating it, but the rubber bellows over the inner rod end 
puts a limit on that.


Any brilliant ideas for getting the rod end off the rod?
As I was typing this, I wondered if the wrench flats were wide enough 
for two 15mm open ends.

Will try that next, along with a bit of heat.
Wish I had some Kroil handy instead of this Liquid Wrench I soaked it 
in yesterday. 



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[MBZ] Wagon

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Re: [MBZ] Tie rod end removal

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

If you've got the time to mess with it, sounds like you can try the
wet washcloths and acetylene torch, and then if you melt the bellows,
you get the kit to replace that.  If the blue wrench works, you can
install your new tie rod end, and if the blue wrench doesn't break the
rust free, you buy the inner rod end and boot and replace the whole
works.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Dec 14, 2020 4:52:11 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes :


>
> My options are pretty much down to:
> Keep pouring penetrating oil on it, warming it with a heat gun, and praying.
>
> Try to break it off with a nut splitter (not intended for nuts that are 
> inches long).
>
> Buy the $86 tool from MAC or Snappy and praying it does the job. (a lot of 
> money to pay for a one of a kind job)
> https://shop.snapon.com/product/Tie-Rod-Adjusting-Tools/Tie-Rod-Adjusting-Wrench/YA2223
>
> Buy an inner rod end and boot, and replace everything, thereby avoiding 
> taking the old parts apart.
>
> Cut the rod end body off, put a 21mm deep well on it, and try to rattle 
> wrench it while holding the rod with Vice Grips.
>
> Acetylene and wet washcloths. The problem with that is getting enough wetted 
> area on the very short rod.
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Re: [MBZ] Tie rod end removal

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

My options are pretty much down to:
Keep pouring penetrating oil on it, warming it with a heat gun, and 
praying.


Try to break it off with a nut splitter (not intended for nuts that are 
inches long).


Buy the $86 tool from MAC or Snappy and praying it does the job. (a lot 
of money to pay for a one of a kind job)

https://shop.snapon.com/product/Tie-Rod-Adjusting-Tools/Tie-Rod-Adjusting-Wrench/YA2223

Buy an inner rod end and boot, and replace everything, thereby avoiding 
taking the old parts apart.


Cut the rod end body off, put a 21mm deep well on it, and try to rattle 
wrench it while holding the rod with Vice Grips.


Acetylene and wet washcloths. The problem with that is getting enough 
wetted area on the very short rod.


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Re: [MBZ] Dang, here it is...

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I'm with Randy, just go get it already.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Dec 14, 2020 3:28:34 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes :

> On 13/12/2020 6:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> 1977 MERCEDES 240D
>> 
>> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/dallas-1977-mercedes-240d/7246641547.html
>> 
>> 
> Go get it. Call it your Christmas present. The one you want does not come 
> along all that often.
> 
> You have enough others that you don't truly care about to sell to pay for 
> this one that you want.
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] FüKNMöV3N

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yeah, if I were in the market for another car, I'd be sorely tempted to get 
such a hot rod.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Dec 14, 2020 3:55:31 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes :

> Very nice. Would be even better with interior and engine compartment pictures.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
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>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2499738076987026/?ref=search_code=undefined
>> 
>> 2002 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 55 AMG Sedan 4D
>> $5,500
>> Vehicles 
>> Listed 19 hours ago in Raleigh, NC 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   About This Vehicle…
>> 
>> Driven 195,000 miles
>> Automatic transmission
>> Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Charcoal
>> Fuel type: Gasoline
>> 15.0 MPG city · 22.0 MPG highway · 18.0 MPG combined
>> 
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>>   Seller's description…
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Re: [MBZ] Tie rod end removal

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Presuming I understand your problem, I offer this work around.

Jack up and support the front of car, remove wheel for access [if memory
serves, rod end that came apart was RH?]

Turn steering wheel to the extreme travel limit to the broken side. then
push the rubber boot back along the tie rod to collapse it as much as
possible, secure it in place with a tie wrap around the tie rod to keep it
from extending on its own.
[you may need to insert a small screwdriver at the rod end of the boot and
spray some lube on the rubber to get it to slide back]
Having gained as much distance from the area to be heated as possible, find
a piece of sheet metal [anything handy will do] and make a heat shield of
it by cutting a slot that will slide over the tie rod, think the top of a
gallon coffee can with a slot cut in it.

Then... heat the offending, rusted, locked on tie rod end with a torch to
break the rust bond and remove it. As much as possible, keep the torch
flame directed away from the rubber boot.

Good luck !



On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 1:44 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
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> Back in the day of Rusty, it was reasonable to buy the whole tie rod with
> ends already installed. I did that for W115 and W107 cars ...
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 12:52 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > The rod end is rusted onto the tie rod and won't unscrew, at least not
> > to the holding power of a 15mm open end wrench on the rod, or a 10" vice
> > grip. My baby pipe wrench, with jaws thin enough to put on the little
> > bit of rod that's exposed, had less grip than the vice grips.
> >
> > I can try heating it, but the rubber bellows over the inner rod end puts
> > a limit on that.
> >
> > Any brilliant ideas for getting the rod end off the rod?
> > As I was typing this, I wondered if the wrench flats were wide enough
> > for two 15mm open ends.
> > Will try that next, along with a bit of heat.
> > Wish I had some Kroil handy instead of this Liquid Wrench I soaked it in
> > yesterday.
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
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Re: [MBZ] Tie rod end removal

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Don, I think Mitch's car has rack and pinion, not recirculating ball, so inner 
end of the rod is different.

Mitch, I like the water soaked rag idea, I've used that several times when 
brazing copper tubing and didn't want to destroy the seals in the valve just 
inches away from the joint.  Heat the rusty joint red hot at the far end, the 
water soaked rag will protect the bellows end.  I'd position the rag so mostly 
on the metal part of the rod near the bellows, and keep it dripping wet if 
possible.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Dec 14, 2020 3:44:06 PM OK Don via Mercedes :

> Back in the day of Rusty, it was reasonable to buy the whole tie rod with
> ends already installed. I did that for W115 and W107 cars ...
> 
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 12:52 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The rod end is rusted onto the tie rod and won't unscrew, at least not
>> to the holding power of a 15mm open end wrench on the rod, or a 10" vice
>> grip. My baby pipe wrench, with jaws thin enough to put on the little
>> bit of rod that's exposed, had less grip than the vice grips.
>> 
>> I can try heating it, but the rubber bellows over the inner rod end puts
>> a limit on that.
>> 
>> Any brilliant ideas for getting the rod end off the rod?
>> As I was typing this, I wondered if the wrench flats were wide enough
>> for two 15mm open ends.
>> Will try that next, along with a bit of heat.
>> Wish I had some Kroil handy instead of this Liquid Wrench I soaked it in
>> yesterday.
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> 
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> 
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
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Re: [MBZ] FüKNMöV3N

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Very nice. Would be even better with interior and engine compartment pictures.

-D

> On Dec 14, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2499738076987026/?ref=search_code=undefined
> 
> 2002 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 55 AMG Sedan 4D
> $5,500
> Vehicles 
> Listed 19 hours ago in Raleigh, NC 
> 
> 
> 
>   About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 195,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Charcoal
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> 15.0 MPG city · 22.0 MPG highway · 18.0 MPG combined
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tie rod end removal

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This is in an ML, which has a little different configuration as it’s rack and 
pinion, not recirculating ball/Pitman arm.

The tie rod is two pieces, with the ball joint and threaded piece one part, and 
another threaded rod that connects inside the steering rack, how exactly I 
forget. For that matter, the part of the rod in the steering rack might not be 
serviceable separately, I don’t recall.

The tie rod itself is pretty cheap in the aftermarket, like $25 or thereabouts. 
With it disconnected from the steering rack, you can remove and replace the 
seal (bellows) on the rack without a lot of difficulty. It’s a little tight, 
but can be done. What you can’t do on the steering rack without a major 
undertaking, is replace the steering rack mounts, which are common failure item 
by now, unfortunately. The rack is installed tightly between the frame and 
drive train, and is near impossible to get to. I think that’s a four hour flat 
rate job.

-D

> On Dec 14, 2020, at 2:29 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Back in the day of Rusty, it was reasonable to buy the whole tie rod with
> ends already installed. I did that for W115 and W107 cars ...
> 
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 12:52 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The rod end is rusted onto the tie rod and won't unscrew, at least not
>> to the holding power of a 15mm open end wrench on the rod, or a 10" vice
>> grip. My baby pipe wrench, with jaws thin enough to put on the little
>> bit of rod that's exposed, had less grip than the vice grips.
>> 
>> I can try heating it, but the rubber bellows over the inner rod end puts
>> a limit on that.
>> 
>> Any brilliant ideas for getting the rod end off the rod?
>> As I was typing this, I wondered if the wrench flats were wide enough
>> for two 15mm open ends.
>> Will try that next, along with a bit of heat.
>> Wish I had some Kroil handy instead of this Liquid Wrench I soaked it in
>> yesterday.
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> 
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> 
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[MBZ] FüKNMöV3N

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2002 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 55 AMG Sedan 4D
$5,500
Vehicles 
Listed 19 hours ago in Raleigh, NC 




   About This Vehicle…

Driven 195,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Charcoal
Fuel type: Gasoline
15.0 MPG city · 22.0 MPG highway · 18.0 MPG combined


   Seller's description…

Very rare e55

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Re: [MBZ] Tie rod end removal

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Back in the day of Rusty, it was reasonable to buy the whole tie rod with
ends already installed. I did that for W115 and W107 cars ...

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 12:52 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> The rod end is rusted onto the tie rod and won't unscrew, at least not
> to the holding power of a 15mm open end wrench on the rod, or a 10" vice
> grip. My baby pipe wrench, with jaws thin enough to put on the little
> bit of rod that's exposed, had less grip than the vice grips.
>
> I can try heating it, but the rubber bellows over the inner rod end puts
> a limit on that.
>
> Any brilliant ideas for getting the rod end off the rod?
> As I was typing this, I wondered if the wrench flats were wide enough
> for two 15mm open ends.
> Will try that next, along with a bit of heat.
> Wish I had some Kroil handy instead of this Liquid Wrench I soaked it in
> yesterday.
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Re: [MBZ] Dang, here it is...

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 13/12/2020 6:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

1977 MERCEDES 240D

https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/dallas-1977-mercedes-240d/7246641547.html


Go get it. Call it your Christmas present. The one you want does not 
come along all that often.


You have enough others that you don't truly care about to sell to pay 
for this one that you want.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1981 Mercedes 240 Diesel engine, & Standard Transmission

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I would buy it in a heartbeat just for the manual trans and clutch / brake
pedals to swap into a 300D, if it were not so far away.
The rusted out body... meah... scrap it.  Transport costs would be too
much..

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Re: [MBZ] Tie rod end removal

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The boot that goes on the steering rack is sold by the dealer in a kit form 
with a tube of grease and a new clamp pretty cheaply, like under $20. I know 
because one of mine was torn and I replaced it along with the tie rod because 
the ball joint seal on the tie rod was bad, too.

-D

> On Dec 14, 2020, at 1:51 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The rod end is rusted onto the tie rod and won't unscrew, at least not to the 
> holding power of a 15mm open end wrench on the rod, or a 10" vice grip. My 
> baby pipe wrench, with jaws thin enough to put on the little bit of rod 
> that's exposed, had less grip than the vice grips.
> 
> I can try heating it, but the rubber bellows over the inner rod end puts a 
> limit on that.
> 
> Any brilliant ideas for getting the rod end off the rod?
> As I was typing this, I wondered if the wrench flats were wide enough for two 
> 15mm open ends.
> Will try that next, along with a bit of heat.
> Wish I had some Kroil handy instead of this Liquid Wrench I soaked it in 
> yesterday.
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Re: [MBZ] Tie rod end removal

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> Wish I had some Kroil handy instead of this Liquid Wrench I soaked it
> in yesterday.

If you have acetone, try mixing up a little with some ATF and use that
as a penetrant.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Tie rod end removal

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Soak a rag in ice water and wrap it around the tie rod just ahead of the rubber 
boot on the rack to act as a heat sink. You might be able to get more heat into 
the tie rod end that way. Also, once it's hot, apply candle wax (birthday 
candle) to the threads and capillary action with wick it into the rusted part.


Rick
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[MBZ] Tie rod end removal

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

The rod end is rusted onto the tie rod and won't unscrew, at least not 
to the holding power of a 15mm open end wrench on the rod, or a 10" vice 
grip. My baby pipe wrench, with jaws thin enough to put on the little 
bit of rod that's exposed, had less grip than the vice grips.


I can try heating it, but the rubber bellows over the inner rod end puts 
a limit on that.


Any brilliant ideas for getting the rod end off the rod?
As I was typing this, I wondered if the wrench flats were wide enough 
for two 15mm open ends.

Will try that next, along with a bit of heat.
Wish I had some Kroil handy instead of this Liquid Wrench I soaked it in 
yesterday.


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Re: [MBZ] very nice 300SD

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

You are channeling BaT 

--FT
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> On Dec 14, 2020, at 11:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> And one must accept that unfortunately, the majority of these cars were 
> built in a somewhat boring color scheme. It’s a function of the times. That’s 
> something easily looked past, however, when enjoying their use.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 14, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> With that color scheme you need an Rx for boredom.
>> 
>>> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 1:57 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 4 hours is not very far. I think the 300SDL is better though. A last year
>>> 617 would be nice.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 13, 2020, at 12:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 4 hour drive. No thanks.
 
 I will say that the 300SD (W126) was probably the best, if not one of
>>> the best, cars Mercedes ever built.
 
 -D
 
> On Dec 13, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> It's in JAX, not far, you should go get it
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 12/13/20 12:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Dang. I would pay $3000 for that. It looks really clean.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 13, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1029319877582636/?ref=search_code=undefined
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] very nice 300SD

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Spray paint cans could be your friends ...

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 11:46 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have never purchased a vehicle with a color scheme that turns me off.  I
> am pretty tolerant, but on my sh*t list are black exterior and various
> blaah ext/int combinations, e.g. beige/beige , white/white, or dove
> gray/gray.  I also avoid blue with a red interior, which is thankfully
> quite rare.
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 11:59 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > And one must accept that unfortunately, the majority of these cars were
> > built in a somewhat boring color scheme. It’s a function of the times.
> > That’s something easily looked past, however, when enjoying their use.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Dec 14, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > With that color scheme you need an Rx for boredom.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 1:57 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> 4 hours is not very far. I think the 300SDL is better though. A last
> > year
> > >> 617 would be nice.
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >>> On Dec 13, 2020, at 12:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> 4 hour drive. No thanks.
> > >>>
> > >>> I will say that the 300SD (W126) was probably the best, if not one of
> > >> the best, cars Mercedes ever built.
> > >>>
> > >>> -D
> > >>>
> >  On Dec 13, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> >  It's in JAX, not far, you should go get it
> > 
> >  --FT
> > 
> > > On 12/13/20 12:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Dang. I would pay $3000 for that. It looks really clean.
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> > >> On Dec 13, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> > >>
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] Dang, here it is...

[OK Don via Mercedes]

It has the rare 5 cylinder 240D engine ...

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:42 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> Not expensive if the sophisticated anti-theft hardware conveys with the
> car.
>
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 7:43 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> > 1977 MERCEDES 240D
> >
> >
> >
> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/dallas-1977-mercedes-240d/7246641547.html
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Re: [MBZ] I'm going to spend $35k on one crappy picture

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If you need more pictures you don't deserve the car.

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> On 2020-12-14 08:17, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
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> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-rare-mercedes-benz-sl600/7246708644.html
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 240D

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2020-12-14 12:48, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Whew, its an auto. When I first started looking I thought "Must
resist" an auto 240D is a thing I do not want...



That's why Fred linked us to a $300 manny.

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 240D

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Whew, its an auto. When I first started looking I thought "Must resist" an 
auto 240D is a thing I do not want...
-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] very nice 300SD

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I have never purchased a vehicle with a color scheme that turns me off.  I
am pretty tolerant, but on my sh*t list are black exterior and various
blaah ext/int combinations, e.g. beige/beige , white/white, or dove
gray/gray.  I also avoid blue with a red interior, which is thankfully
quite rare.

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 11:59 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And one must accept that unfortunately, the majority of these cars were
> built in a somewhat boring color scheme. It’s a function of the times.
> That’s something easily looked past, however, when enjoying their use.
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 14, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > With that color scheme you need an Rx for boredom.
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 1:57 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> 4 hours is not very far. I think the 300SDL is better though. A last
> year
> >> 617 would be nice.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Dec 13, 2020, at 12:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 4 hour drive. No thanks.
> >>>
> >>> I will say that the 300SD (W126) was probably the best, if not one of
> >> the best, cars Mercedes ever built.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
>  On Dec 13, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  It's in JAX, not far, you should go get it
> 
>  --FT
> 
> > On 12/13/20 12:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > Dang. I would pay $3000 for that. It looks really clean.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Dec 13, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1029319877582636/?ref=search_code=undefined
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 240D

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I wouldn’t mind having that. 

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[MBZ] Fwd: 1976 Mercedes 300 Diesel engine

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[MBZ] Fwd: 1981 Mercedes 240 Diesel engine, & Standard Transmission

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[MBZ] Fwd: 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 240D

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Re: [MBZ] very nice 300SD

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And one must accept that unfortunately, the majority of these cars were built 
in a somewhat boring color scheme. It’s a function of the times. That’s 
something easily looked past, however, when enjoying their use.

-D

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> With that color scheme you need an Rx for boredom.
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> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 1:57 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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>> 4 hours is not very far. I think the 300SDL is better though. A last year
>> 617 would be nice.
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>>> 4 hour drive. No thanks.
>>> 
>>> I will say that the 300SD (W126) was probably the best, if not one of
>> the best, cars Mercedes ever built.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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 It's in JAX, not far, you should go get it
 
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> On 12/13/20 12:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Dang. I would pay $3000 for that. It looks really clean.
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Re: [MBZ] very nice 300SD

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With that color scheme you need an Rx for boredom.

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> 4 hours is not very far. I think the 300SDL is better though. A last year
> 617 would be nice.
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> > 4 hour drive. No thanks.
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> the best, cars Mercedes ever built.
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> >> On Dec 13, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> >> It's in JAX, not far, you should go get it
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> >>> On 12/13/20 12:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1029319877582636/?ref=search_code=undefined
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Re: [MBZ] Dang, here it is...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Not expensive if the sophisticated anti-theft hardware conveys with the car.

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> 1977 MERCEDES 240D
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Re: [MBZ] Rat nests included -- 1929 Mercedes-Benz ssk,$1,800

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Someone will snap this up.

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> I wonder if a 606 would drop in there
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[MBZ] OT don't see these very often

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Sorta rusty but doesn't look too far gone to be saved

https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/crestwood-nissan-patrol/7243579791.html

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] I'm going to spend $35k on one crappy picture

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2020-12-14 08:17, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-rare-mercedes-benz-sl600/7246708644.html


List yours for $25k

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[MBZ] I'm going to spend $35k on one crappy picture

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