[MBZ] salvage title I have all parts - 2009 S550

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/cincinnati-2009-mercedes-s550/7313754659.html

Allan

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[MBZ] 1993 600SEL - 104k miles - $12,500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Too rich for my blood but it looks nice. A few random pics of a different car.

  
https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/d/tipp-city-mercedes-benz-600-sel/7314103745.html

This would have had the self-destructing wiring?

Allan

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[MBZ] 2004 S500 4Matic - 109k miles - $6,995

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

With a little negotiation this looks like it might be nice

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/hometown-mercedes-benz-500-4matic/7314188763.html

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

AKA shotgun house down south.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Clay via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2021 12:04 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Clay 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

The chinese are swooping in and leveling homes on lots over 0.25 acre.  Then 
they toss up these slim townhomes that are no wider than a garage.  Zoning 
allows for mass density.  Maybe the investor got the property for a million, 
bulldozes and puts up seven units that sell for $1mm each.  One two block area 
close to the children’s hospital he snagged five lots that had 70 year old 
duplexes (formerly nurses and intern housing) and populated them with the 
townhomes.  I counted over 20 units.

Clay


inter urinas et faeces nascimur

> On Apr 28, 2021, at 12:36 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Californians are destroying any chance an Arizonan has on getting a house 
> here in AZ. I started paying some attention a little over two years ago when 
> we had pretty much decided that we wouldn’t have a condo down here in Phoenix 
> for the winter, and a condo or a house up in the mountains for the summer. 
> Californians were outbidding us Arizonans, and moving here in droves. The 
> main difference now is the people doing all of the bidding on the homes for 
> sale in my neighborhood are investors from California. Not people who want to 
> move here, investors. From CA. Almost without except   They have some pat 
> order saying that they will overbid the highest bidder by X number of 
> thousands of dollars, and when it closes they immediately gut the home, 
> Remodel it to look exactly like any one of the DYI renovation shows on TV, 
> paint the exterior white with gray trim and sell it for 250,000 more than 
> they bought it for. It is ruining my eclectic neighborhood. 
> 
> AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Clay via Mercedes]

I suspect they will need to set up a condominium agreement.  Not my trouble to 
take on.  Grown group of men, let them figure it out, is my view.  SWMBA is a 
helicopter mom, so will most likely make it her affair to meddle in.  Foo foo 
drinks with paper parasols on a beach is my end goal.  Keep me from having to 
use the car in garage for warmth when the massive quake and tsunami strike GWN, 
taking out all civilized remnants.

Clay


inter urinas et faeces nascimur

> On Apr 28, 2021, at 9:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Clay via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Four or five investors, as long as they remain on good terms, could pencil 
>> out.
> 
> I'd highly recommend working with an attorney to very clearly define
> what happens if/when any of them "want out" of the deal.
> 
> Allan

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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Clay via Mercedes  writes:

> Four or five investors, as long as they remain on good terms, could pencil 
> out.

I'd highly recommend working with an attorney to very clearly define
what happens if/when any of them "want out" of the deal.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

> When we bought in 2006 I think the smart money was suggesting 3x
> income. The bank said we "could afford" 4x but I refused that idea.

3x is what I've always heard, of course the amount of other debt a
person has can reduce this.

If renting, 30% of monthly income is a good "upper bound." When I was
saving for my first house, I moved to a place much cheaper than that. As
a caucasian, I was definitely in the minority. Saved a lot of money
quickly though.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Clay via Mercedes]

The chinese are swooping in and leveling homes on lots over 0.25 acre.  Then 
they toss up these slim townhomes that are no wider than a garage.  Zoning 
allows for mass density.  Maybe the investor got the property for a million, 
bulldozes and puts up seven units that sell for $1mm each.  One two block area 
close to the children’s hospital he snagged five lots that had 70 year old 
duplexes (formerly nurses and intern housing) and populated them with the 
townhomes.  I counted over 20 units.

Clay


inter urinas et faeces nascimur

> On Apr 28, 2021, at 12:36 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Californians are destroying any chance an Arizonan has on getting a house 
> here in AZ. I started paying some attention a little over two years ago when 
> we had pretty much decided that we wouldn’t have a condo down here in Phoenix 
> for the winter, and a condo or a house up in the mountains for the summer. 
> Californians were outbidding us Arizonans, and moving here in droves. The 
> main difference now is the people doing all of the bidding on the homes for 
> sale in my neighborhood are investors from California. Not people who want to 
> move here, investors. From CA. Almost without except   They have some pat 
> order saying that they will overbid the highest bidder by X number of 
> thousands of dollars, and when it closes they immediately gut the home, 
> Remodel it to look exactly like any one of the DYI renovation shows on TV, 
> paint the exterior white with gray trim and sell it for 250,000 more than 
> they bought it for. It is ruining my eclectic neighborhood. 
> 
> AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Clay via Mercedes]

SEA is allowing/mandating that there be up to three housing units permitted on 
lots within the city.  So, you can build bigger (since they also mandated you 
could not build residence larger than 2k sqft) if you include a rentable suite 
in the main home, and then you can toss another residential unit for renting 
out as “affordable” housing.  

My neighborhood you can get a 400 sqft basement apt for around $1k/mo, the 
garden shack another $500 or so.

Clay


inter urinas et faeces nascimur

> On Apr 28, 2021, at 11:58 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Housing prices and rents are out of sight here as well. The city's
> response is mainly demands for developers to build "affordable"
> housing. They are typically ignorant of the realities of economics.
> 
> Allan


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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Clay via Mercedes]

A sad reality.  #1 boy is hoping to acquire a plop of land in ND with his cadre 
of buds.  They are thinking farmable parcel and compound for under half mil.  
Four or five investors, as long as they remain on good terms, could pencil out. 
 Too hard to foresee the future to my myopic eyes on that point.  

Thirty years ago, Dad and uncle cashed out my grandads five acres.  Did not 
make a mint, but that developed into a suburban ‘hood with, I think, a dozen 
homes.  Probably not what you want next door.  



---
clay

I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
looking for didn't fall out.




> On Apr 28, 2021, at 5:24 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Left coast is hemorrhaging people.
> 
> I noted that the U-Haul sign in downtown Spokane was trumpeting going-west 
> specials.
> That tells you something right there.
> 
> The blind offer letter I just got in the mail is offering me a 6x profit on 
> my bare
> land parcel, after 25+ years.  (Has it really been that long?)  Not gonna 
> happen!
> If I take their word for it, that 10 acres now would cost barely less than I 
> paid
> for the whole 21 acres, and the house.
> 
> My son will never be able to afford a home of his own, at this rate.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Gadzooks you guys are old ;)

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 9:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via 
Mercedes wrote:   Yeah mine was like 1981, 13.75%, $34k 
loan. It was a Bawstun “triple dekka” with 2 rentals, I was making more after I 
bought it than before as I had no rent and the rent from the two apahtments was 
more than mortgage and taxes and such. 

Thanks Jimmuh for that 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Apr 28, 2021, at 7:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 

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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah mine was like 1981, 13.75%, $34k loan. It was a Bawstun “triple dekka” 
with 2 rentals, I was making more after I bought it than before as I had no 
rent and the rent from the two apahtments was more than mortgage and taxes and 
such. 

Thanks Jimmuh for that 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Apr 28, 2021, at 7:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 

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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.

Truth.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

First house in early 80s. 14% if I recall correctly.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2021, at 7:33 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> High single digits. 9-10 percent or so. We'll be back there soon, I suspect.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: curtlud...@yahoo.com
> Sent: April 28, 2021 6:26 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: rickkno...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres
> 
> That was for double digit interest payments though right?
> 
> When we bought in 2006 I think the smart money was suggesting 3x income. The 
> bank said we "could afford" 4x but I refused that idea.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 7:23:58 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> In high school economics, I learned the rule of thumb for affording a home 
> was two and a half times your annual income. For a $300k home, that is 
> considerably more than $40k.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: April 28, 2021 4:44 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: d...@penoff.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres
> 
> The City of Flagstaff requires builders to earmark a certain percentage of 
> new construction as subsidized housing (they have a better term for it, I 
> don’t recall what it is) that can only be sold to City employees at a reduced 
> amount. I looked at a couple of the homes being built in a subdivision that 
> has homes in the $400k-$500k range, pretty typical for the market, and the 
> cost to City employees for one was around $300k. Add to this down payment 
> assistance and $10k in a down payment “grant” that is forgiven after 10 years 
> in the property and it’s almost affordable for someone making $30k-$40k.
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Mrs. Dan and I, as IT professionals, make a nice living. If we spent what the 
mortgage company said we “could afford” we would have a significant mortgage 
payment and a house easily 3x-4x what ours is worth. No thanks. That's also 
why, when I called our mortgage broker when we were buying the house in 
Indiana, I asked he he thought there would be any issues with qualifying for a 
mortgage on it and he laughed at me.

Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2021, at 7:26 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That was for double digit interest payments though right?
> When we bought in 2006 I think the smart money was suggesting 3x income. The 
> bank said we "could afford" 4x but I refused that idea.
> -Curt
> 
>On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 7:23:58 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> In high school economics, I learned the rule of thumb for affording a home 
> was two and a half times your annual income. For a $300k home, that is 
> considerably more than $40k.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: April 28, 2021 4:44 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: d...@penoff.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres
> 
> The City of Flagstaff requires builders to earmark a certain percentage of 
> new construction as subsidized housing (they have a better term for it, I 
> don’t recall what it is) that can only be sold to City employees at a reduced 
> amount. I looked at a couple of the homes being built in a subdivision that 
> has homes in the $400k-$500k range, pretty typical for the market, and the 
> cost to City employees for one was around $300k. Add to this down payment 
> assistance and $10k in a down payment “grant” that is forgiven after 10 years 
> in the property and it’s almost affordable for someone making $30k-$40k.
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

High single digits. 9-10 percent or so. We'll be back there soon, I suspect.


Rick

From: curtlud...@yahoo.com
Sent: April 28, 2021 6:26 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: rickkno...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

That was for double digit interest payments though right?

When we bought in 2006 I think the smart money was suggesting 3x income. The 
bank said we "could afford" 4x but I refused that idea.

-Curt

On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 7:23:58 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote:


In high school economics, I learned the rule of thumb for affording a home was 
two and a half times your annual income. For a $300k home, that is considerably 
more than $40k.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: April 28, 2021 4:44 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

The City of Flagstaff requires builders to earmark a certain percentage of new 
construction as subsidized housing (they have a better term for it, I don’t 
recall what it is) that can only be sold to City employees at a reduced amount. 
I looked at a couple of the homes being built in a subdivision that has homes 
in the $400k-$500k range, pretty typical for the market, and the cost to City 
employees for one was around $300k. Add to this down payment assistance and 
$10k in a down payment “grant” that is forgiven after 10 years in the property 
and it’s almost affordable for someone making $30k-$40k.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 That was for double digit interest payments though right?
When we bought in 2006 I think the smart money was suggesting 3x income. The 
bank said we "could afford" 4x but I refused that idea.
-Curt

On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 7:23:58 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 In high school economics, I learned the rule of thumb for affording a home was 
two and a half times your annual income. For a $300k home, that is considerably 
more than $40k.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: April 28, 2021 4:44 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

The City of Flagstaff requires builders to earmark a certain percentage of new 
construction as subsidized housing (they have a better term for it, I don’t 
recall what it is) that can only be sold to City employees at a reduced amount. 
I looked at a couple of the homes being built in a subdivision that has homes 
in the $400k-$500k range, pretty typical for the market, and the cost to City 
employees for one was around $300k. Add to this down payment assistance and 
$10k in a down payment “grant” that is forgiven after 10 years in the property 
and it’s almost affordable for someone making $30k-$40k.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

In high school economics, I learned the rule of thumb for affording a home was 
two and a half times your annual income. For a $300k home, that is considerably 
more than $40k.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: April 28, 2021 4:44 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

The City of Flagstaff requires builders to earmark a certain percentage of new 
construction as subsidized housing (they have a better term for it, I don’t 
recall what it is) that can only be sold to City employees at a reduced amount. 
I looked at a couple of the homes being built in a subdivision that has homes 
in the $400k-$500k range, pretty typical for the market, and the cost to City 
employees for one was around $300k. Add to this down payment assistance and 
$10k in a down payment “grant” that is forgiven after 10 years in the property 
and it’s almost affordable for someone making $30k-$40k.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] If Only the Best Will Do - $6,200 (Irmo)

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes but might be one of best MB diesels made.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 5:17 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And that is an understatement.
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 4:48 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Impressive automobile. Arguably the finest open road car ever
> > manufactured. Premium condition. 100% complete. Everything works as it
> > should. The best is never cheap.
> >
> > *1991 Mercedes 300d 2.5 Turbo Diesel*
> >
> >
> >
> https://columbia.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbia-if-only-the-best-will-do/7313967336.html
> >
> >
> > --
> > --FT
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Re: [MBZ] And you don't have to be a genius to work on them! -- '03 Mercedes E320 Wagon - $4, 450 (Raleigh)

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2021-04-28 16:50, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-03-mercedes-e320-wagon/7313781856.html


Final year S210, after they quit making W210s.
If that was 4Matic I might think about it for $4k.
I wish I could have afforded that low mile Alpine Green 2003 I looked at 
9 years ago when I bought my beater Midnight Blue 1999.


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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The City of Flagstaff requires builders to earmark a certain percentage of new 
construction as subsidized housing (they have a better term for it, I don’t 
recall what it is) that can only be sold to City employees at a reduced amount. 
I looked at a couple of the homes being built in a subdivision that has homes 
in the $400k-$500k range, pretty typical for the market, and the cost to City 
employees for one was around $300k. Add to this down payment assistance and 
$10k in a down payment “grant” that is forgiven after 10 years in the property 
and it’s almost affordable for someone making $30k-$40k.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2021, at 3:36 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Californians are destroying any chance an Arizonan has on getting a house 
> here in AZ. I started paying some attention a little over two years ago when 
> we had pretty much decided that we wouldn’t have a condo down here in Phoenix 
> for the winter, and a condo or a house up in the mountains for the summer. 
> Californians were outbidding us Arizonans, and moving here in droves. The 
> main difference now is the people doing all of the bidding on the homes for 
> sale in my neighborhood are investors from California. Not people who want to 
> move here, investors. From CA. Almost without except   They have some pat 
> order saying that they will overbid the highest bidder by X number of 
> thousands of dollars, and when it closes they immediately gut the home, 
> Remodel it to look exactly like any one of the DYI renovation shows on TV, 
> paint the exterior white with gray trim and sell it for 250,000 more than 
> they bought it for. It is ruining my eclectic neighborhood. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2021, at 12:04 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  That and planning boards. "Build affordable housing!" "Well don't build it 
>> there. We don't allow high density in that zone." even if they will let you 
>> build there it'll get tied up in committee for 3 years, then they'll lose 
>> all the paperwork so you can start over.
>> Of course right now you can't evict anybody, even (especially) if they don't 
>> pay. I feel bad for landlords right now...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 2:59:23 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> Housing prices and rents are out of sight here as well. The city's
>> response is mainly demands for developers to build "affordable"
>> housing. They are typically ignorant of the realities of economics.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> Max Dillon via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> The inflation is coming.  In your place, I'd put a small portion of the 
>>> proceeds into an inflation hedge, such as precious metals (GLD is the 
>>> ticket symbol for an ETF that tracks the price of gold).  Land is another 
>>> good hedge but has more risk as external forces can play a big role.
>>> 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Apr 27, 2021 9:19:53 PM Clay via Mercedes :
>>> 
 Just signed a listing for my humble dojo.  Realtor thinks seven figures, 
 easy.  Older Tudor style, so you either love classic, or you are going to 
 knock it down and build to within inches of the lot line.
 
 Around me, the homes are predominantly post war suburb 50s/60s 
 architecture on largish lots, smaller home.  Big enough lots are being 
 divided and getting a pair of homes, or accessory units.  There is lots of 
 growth potential in that part of the market.  Other owners are building 
 out their existing homes to fullest size for the lots.  That will cover 
 them for maybe the next pair of decades until they have to retire.  No 
 idea who will be able to afford these multi-million boxes at that time.
 
 Mom has made 20x on her investment in a basic box home since 1967.  I have 
 realized 5x return in the past quarter century.  I have a hard time seeing 
 this house offered for $5mm in 2040.  Nobody could afford to purchase, 
 though the neighborhood a kilometer away this house would be selling for 
 twice my ask.  Maybe by then inflation will be like Zimbabwe.
 
 clay
 
 I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
 
 
 
>> On Apr 24, 2021, at 7:57 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > > wrote:
>> 
>> Time always wins.. in 10 years the 30 somethings will be mid 40's and the
>> bubble will have gone bust Who knows what will happen to the "city
>> infrastructure" in that 10 years, with the loss of unlimited income from
>> high taxes on the people who "escaped" for whatever reason...
>> The high priced house they spent big money for is "post bubble" now worth
>> much less, and the city they think they miss is still too high to buy
>> into..
>> 
>> I predict some very unhappy people who slap their forehead every morning 
>> in
>> the mirror and say "What was I thinking?"
 
 
 Clay
 

Re: [MBZ] And you don't have to be a genius to work on them! -- '03 Mercedes E320 Wagon - $4, 450 (Raleigh)

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A POS by any other name.

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>
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Re: [MBZ] If Only the Best Will Do - $6,200 (Irmo)

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And that is an understatement.

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> Impressive automobile. Arguably the finest open road car ever
> manufactured. Premium condition. 100% complete. Everything works as it
> should. The best is never cheap.
>
> *1991 Mercedes 300d 2.5 Turbo Diesel*
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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

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Here, there is a special fund set aside for housing developments that
builds new wings on one of the many prisons located out in the desert
"High Security Housing Fund"... cuts out all the middle men in the
process... you know, to "save the children"...

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> Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > Some places they demand 'affordable housing units' as part of million
> > dollar McMansion developments. So, on the far corner of the property, a
> > high density section 8 apartment building gets built, satisfying the
> > local government's need for a criminal element in the community.
>
> Yes, they do that here, but there's an alternative, the developer can
> "contribute" to a local "affordable housing fund" and get exempted from
> the set-aside requirement in their development.
>
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[MBZ] If Only the Best Will Do - $6,200 (Irmo)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Impressive automobile. Arguably the finest open road car ever 
manufactured. Premium condition. 100% complete. Everything works as it 
should. The best is never cheap.


*1991 Mercedes 300d 2.5 Turbo Diesel*

https://columbia.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbia-if-only-the-best-will-do/7313967336.html


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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> Some places they demand 'affordable housing units' as part of million 
> dollar McMansion developments. So, on the far corner of the property, a 
> high density section 8 apartment building gets built, satisfying the 
> local government's need for a criminal element in the community.

Yes, they do that here, but there's an alternative, the developer can
"contribute" to a local "affordable housing fund" and get exempted from
the set-aside requirement in their development.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2021-04-28 14:58, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Housing prices and rents are out of sight here as well. The city's
response is mainly demands for developers to build "affordable"
housing. They are typically ignorant of the realities of economics.


Some places they demand 'affordable housing units' as part of million 
dollar McMansion developments. So, on the far corner of the property, a 
high density section 8 apartment building gets built, satisfying the 
local government's need for a criminal element in the community.


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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Californians are destroying any chance an Arizonan has on getting a house here 
in AZ. I started paying some attention a little over two years ago when we had 
pretty much decided that we wouldn’t have a condo down here in Phoenix for the 
winter, and a condo or a house up in the mountains for the summer. Californians 
were outbidding us Arizonans, and moving here in droves. The main difference 
now is the people doing all of the bidding on the homes for sale in my 
neighborhood are investors from California. Not people who want to move here, 
investors. From CA. Almost without except   They have some pat order saying 
that they will overbid the highest bidder by X number of thousands of dollars, 
and when it closes they immediately gut the home, Remodel it to look exactly 
like any one of the DYI renovation shows on TV, paint the exterior white with 
gray trim and sell it for 250,000 more than they bought it for. It is ruining 
my eclectic neighborhood. 

AZBob

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> On Apr 28, 2021, at 12:04 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  That and planning boards. "Build affordable housing!" "Well don't build it 
> there. We don't allow high density in that zone." even if they will let you 
> build there it'll get tied up in committee for 3 years, then they'll lose all 
> the paperwork so you can start over.
> Of course right now you can't evict anybody, even (especially) if they don't 
> pay. I feel bad for landlords right now...
> -Curt
> 
>On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 2:59:23 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Housing prices and rents are out of sight here as well. The city's
> response is mainly demands for developers to build "affordable"
> housing. They are typically ignorant of the realities of economics.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Max Dillon via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> The inflation is coming.  In your place, I'd put a small portion of the 
>> proceeds into an inflation hedge, such as precious metals (GLD is the ticket 
>> symbol for an ETF that tracks the price of gold).  Land is another good 
>> hedge but has more risk as external forces can play a big role.
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>> Apr 27, 2021 9:19:53 PM Clay via Mercedes :
>> 
>>> Just signed a listing for my humble dojo.  Realtor thinks seven figures, 
>>> easy.  Older Tudor style, so you either love classic, or you are going to 
>>> knock it down and build to within inches of the lot line.
>>> 
>>> Around me, the homes are predominantly post war suburb 50s/60s architecture 
>>> on largish lots, smaller home.  Big enough lots are being divided and 
>>> getting a pair of homes, or accessory units.  There is lots of growth 
>>> potential in that part of the market.  Other owners are building out their 
>>> existing homes to fullest size for the lots.  That will cover them for 
>>> maybe the next pair of decades until they have to retire.  No idea who will 
>>> be able to afford these multi-million boxes at that time.
>>> 
>>> Mom has made 20x on her investment in a basic box home since 1967.  I have 
>>> realized 5x return in the past quarter century.  I have a hard time seeing 
>>> this house offered for $5mm in 2040.  Nobody could afford to purchase, 
>>> though the neighborhood a kilometer away this house would be selling for 
>>> twice my ask.  Maybe by then inflation will be like Zimbabwe.
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
>>> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> On Apr 24, 2021, at 7:57 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  > wrote:
> 
> Time always wins.. in 10 years the 30 somethings will be mid 40's and the
> bubble will have gone bust Who knows what will happen to the "city
> infrastructure" in that 10 years, with the loss of unlimited income from
> high taxes on the people who "escaped" for whatever reason...
> The high priced house they spent big money for is "post bubble" now worth
> much less, and the city they think they miss is still too high to buy
> into..
> 
> I predict some very unhappy people who slap their forehead every morning 
> in
> the mirror and say "What was I thinking?"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Clay
>>> 
>>> 
>>> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 That and planning boards. "Build affordable housing!" "Well don't build it 
there. We don't allow high density in that zone." even if they will let you 
build there it'll get tied up in committee for 3 years, then they'll lose all 
the paperwork so you can start over.
Of course right now you can't evict anybody, even (especially) if they don't 
pay. I feel bad for landlords right now...
-Curt

On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 2:59:23 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Housing prices and rents are out of sight here as well. The city's
response is mainly demands for developers to build "affordable"
housing. They are typically ignorant of the realities of economics.

Allan

Max Dillon via Mercedes  writes:

> The inflation is coming.  In your place, I'd put a small portion of the 
> proceeds into an inflation hedge, such as precious metals (GLD is the ticket 
> symbol for an ETF that tracks the price of gold).  Land is another good hedge 
> but has more risk as external forces can play a big role.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
>
> Apr 27, 2021 9:19:53 PM Clay via Mercedes :
>
>> Just signed a listing for my humble dojo.  Realtor thinks seven figures, 
>> easy.  Older Tudor style, so you either love classic, or you are going to 
>> knock it down and build to within inches of the lot line.
>> 
>> Around me, the homes are predominantly post war suburb 50s/60s architecture 
>> on largish lots, smaller home.  Big enough lots are being divided and 
>> getting a pair of homes, or accessory units.  There is lots of growth 
>> potential in that part of the market.  Other owners are building out their 
>> existing homes to fullest size for the lots.  That will cover them for maybe 
>> the next pair of decades until they have to retire.  No idea who will be 
>> able to afford these multi-million boxes at that time.
>> 
>> Mom has made 20x on her investment in a basic box home since 1967.  I have 
>> realized 5x return in the past quarter century.  I have a hard time seeing 
>> this house offered for $5mm in 2040.  Nobody could afford to purchase, 
>> though the neighborhood a kilometer away this house would be selling for 
>> twice my ask.  Maybe by then inflation will be like Zimbabwe.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2021, at 7:57 PM, G Mann via Mercedes >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Time always wins.. in 10 years the 30 somethings will be mid 40's and the
>>> bubble will have gone bust Who knows what will happen to the "city
>>> infrastructure" in that 10 years, with the loss of unlimited income from
>>> high taxes on the people who "escaped" for whatever reason...
>>> The high priced house they spent big money for is "post bubble" now worth
>>> much less, and the city they think they miss is still too high to buy
>>> into..
>>> 
>>> I predict some very unhappy people who slap their forehead every morning in
>>> the mirror and say "What was I thinking?"
>> 
>> 
>> Clay
>> 
>> 
>> inter urinas et faeces nascimur

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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Housing prices and rents are out of sight here as well. The city's
response is mainly demands for developers to build "affordable"
housing. They are typically ignorant of the realities of economics.

Allan

Max Dillon via Mercedes  writes:

> The inflation is coming.  In your place, I'd put a small portion of the 
> proceeds into an inflation hedge, such as precious metals (GLD is the ticket 
> symbol for an ETF that tracks the price of gold).  Land is another good hedge 
> but has more risk as external forces can play a big role.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
>
> Apr 27, 2021 9:19:53 PM Clay via Mercedes :
>
>> Just signed a listing for my humble dojo.  Realtor thinks seven figures, 
>> easy.  Older Tudor style, so you either love classic, or you are going to 
>> knock it down and build to within inches of the lot line.
>> 
>> Around me, the homes are predominantly post war suburb 50s/60s architecture 
>> on largish lots, smaller home.  Big enough lots are being divided and 
>> getting a pair of homes, or accessory units.  There is lots of growth 
>> potential in that part of the market.  Other owners are building out their 
>> existing homes to fullest size for the lots.  That will cover them for maybe 
>> the next pair of decades until they have to retire.  No idea who will be 
>> able to afford these multi-million boxes at that time.
>> 
>> Mom has made 20x on her investment in a basic box home since 1967.  I have 
>> realized 5x return in the past quarter century.  I have a hard time seeing 
>> this house offered for $5mm in 2040.  Nobody could afford to purchase, 
>> though the neighborhood a kilometer away this house would be selling for 
>> twice my ask.  Maybe by then inflation will be like Zimbabwe.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2021, at 7:57 PM, G Mann via Mercedes >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Time always wins.. in 10 years the 30 somethings will be mid 40's and the
>>> bubble will have gone bust Who knows what will happen to the "city
>>> infrastructure" in that 10 years, with the loss of unlimited income from
>>> high taxes on the people who "escaped" for whatever reason...
>>> The high priced house they spent big money for is "post bubble" now worth
>>> much less, and the city they think they miss is still too high to buy
>>> into..
>>> 
>>> I predict some very unhappy people who slap their forehead every morning in
>>> the mirror and say "What was I thinking?"
>> 
>> 
>> Clay
>> 
>> 
>> inter urinas et faeces nascimur

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Re: [MBZ] Should I?

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Can the title be rebuilt?

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> Do you have an angle grinder and a welder?
>
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> > Can I put the front seats in my W116?
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Re: [MBZ] Should I?

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Do you have an angle grinder and a welder?

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> 
> 
> Can I put the front seats in my W116?
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Re: [MBZ] Should I?

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Can I put the front seats in my W116?

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Re: [MBZ] Should I?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

ABS and ESP currently unavailable - wonder what that is about and if brake
problems are covered under warranty.  Low miles.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> https://www.iaai.com/vehicledetails/39811935?tenant=US&RowNumber=9
>
> I wonder what PARTS ONLY means
>
>
> # Title/Sale Doc: BILL OF SALE (Georgia)
> # Title/Sale Doc Brand: PARTS ONLY
> # Title/Sale Doc Notes: NO TITLE/NO EXPORTING
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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Good. F that liberal shithole!.

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> On Apr 27, 2021, at 10:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Washington gained one rep and OR also grew in population.  CA lost one seat.
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 9:35 PM Clay via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Left coast is hemorrhaging people.  It is so bad the poor people of Uhaul
>> have no trailers to rent. At all.  People fled the pacific coast and went
>> inland.  Closest trailer we could find (to move #1 boy’s things out of the
>> house) is about 200 miles away from him.  So, he would need to round trip
>> from ND and load up.   I had expected to drive out in the SWMBA Toyota
>> donated to him SUV with a trailer and swap for the new to SWMBA Honda that
>> #1 boy would pick up in SD.
>> 
>> The national U-Haul estimate of maybe getting trucks and trailers coming
>> back to the coast is when midwest college kids head to Kollyfornia skoolz,
>> if they are allowing in person learning.   The fee to head east with a
>> truck is over $2k, trailer would be almost $900.  To drag a trailer out of
>> MT to SEA is running $200.
>> 
>> Fuel costs are closing in on $4/gal reg.   AK prices for fuel are in the
>> low $3.2x range.  The oil gets shipped to WA, refined, barged back north
>> and loaded into tank trucks for distribution.  Lucky for me, I am not
>> driving at all here.  Will be homeless in two weeks, rolling in cash by
>> July 4.
>> 
>> Clay
>> 
>> 
>> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> With our rental back on the market we have been flooded with people from
>> the west coast wanting to lease it. Even had offers to pay several hundred
>> above what we have it listed for. I figure with covid many companies have
>> now moved to remote and these people can still keep their jobs and move
>> anywhere where the cost of living is much cheaper. Sooner or later it’s
>> going to go way up here too because of this. That with all the money being
>> printed is going to lead high prices for everything.
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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 It depends on where he is willing to live, northern Maine is still quite 
affordable. There are 2x 3 unit apartment buildings by my grandmother's house 
(now owned by my aunt and uncle) for sale, combined price of less than $200,000.
-Curt

On Wednesday, April 28, 2021, 8:25:14 AM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 > Left coast is hemorrhaging people.

I noted that the U-Haul sign in downtown Spokane was trumpeting going-west 
specials.
That tells you something right there.

The blind offer letter I just got in the mail is offering me a 6x profit on my 
bare
land parcel, after 25+ years.  (Has it really been that long?)  Not gonna 
happen!
If I take their word for it, that 10 acres now would cost barely less than I 
paid
for the whole 21 acres, and the house.

My son will never be able to afford a home of his own, at this rate.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Should I?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.iaai.com/vehicledetails/39811935?tenant=US&RowNumber=9

I wonder what PARTS ONLY means


# Title/Sale Doc: BILL OF SALE (Georgia)
# Title/Sale Doc Brand: PARTS ONLY
# Title/Sale Doc Notes: NO TITLE/NO EXPORTING

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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Left coast is hemorrhaging people.

I noted that the U-Haul sign in downtown Spokane was trumpeting going-west 
specials.
That tells you something right there.

The blind offer letter I just got in the mail is offering me a 6x profit on my 
bare
land parcel, after 25+ years.  (Has it really been that long?)  Not gonna 
happen!
If I take their word for it, that 10 acres now would cost barely less than I 
paid
for the whole 21 acres, and the house.

My son will never be able to afford a home of his own, at this rate.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] New Okie Acres

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

The inflation is coming.  In your place, I'd put a small portion of the 
proceeds into an inflation hedge, such as precious metals (GLD is the ticket 
symbol for an ETF that tracks the price of gold).  Land is another good hedge 
but has more risk as external forces can play a big role.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Apr 27, 2021 9:19:53 PM Clay via Mercedes :

> Just signed a listing for my humble dojo.  Realtor thinks seven figures, 
> easy.  Older Tudor style, so you either love classic, or you are going to 
> knock it down and build to within inches of the lot line.
> 
> Around me, the homes are predominantly post war suburb 50s/60s architecture 
> on largish lots, smaller home.  Big enough lots are being divided and getting 
> a pair of homes, or accessory units.  There is lots of growth potential in 
> that part of the market.  Other owners are building out their existing homes 
> to fullest size for the lots.  That will cover them for maybe the next pair 
> of decades until they have to retire.  No idea who will be able to afford 
> these multi-million boxes at that time.
> 
> Mom has made 20x on her investment in a basic box home since 1967.  I have 
> realized 5x return in the past quarter century.  I have a hard time seeing 
> this house offered for $5mm in 2040.  Nobody could afford to purchase, though 
> the neighborhood a kilometer away this house would be selling for twice my 
> ask.  Maybe by then inflation will be like Zimbabwe.
> 
> clay
> 
> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2021, at 7:57 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > > wrote:
>> 
>> Time always wins.. in 10 years the 30 somethings will be mid 40's and the
>> bubble will have gone bust Who knows what will happen to the "city
>> infrastructure" in that 10 years, with the loss of unlimited income from
>> high taxes on the people who "escaped" for whatever reason...
>> The high priced house they spent big money for is "post bubble" now worth
>> much less, and the city they think they miss is still too high to buy
>> into..
>> 
>> I predict some very unhappy people who slap their forehead every morning in
>> the mirror and say "What was I thinking?"
> 
> 
> Clay
> 
> 
> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
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