[MBZ] How's Your Aura, Dora?

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/tangerine-2008-mercedes-gl450prestine/7651617786.html
[https://images.craigslist.org/00R0R_gTTspJYMSCD_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
2008 MERCEDES GL450(((PRESTINE))) - cars & trucks - by owner 
-...
2008 MERCEDES GL450 SPORT UTILITY,LOADED EVERY OPTION,V-8,TOP OF THE LINE SUV 
TO MANY OPTIONS TO LIST HAS THEM ALL,HAS TOW PACKAGE,SILVER EXTERIOR,BLACK 
LEATHER INTERIOR IS IN GREAT...
orlando.craigslist.org

Is it me, or are people incapable of understanding the proper spelling/usage of 
the word "pristine"?

-D
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Re: [MBZ] How's Your Aura, Dora?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Correct spelling is optional if written in ALL CAPS.

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 8:41 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/tangerine-2008-mercedes-gl450prestine/7651617786.html
> [https://images.craigslist.org/00R0R_gTTspJYMSCD_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]<
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/tangerine-2008-mercedes-gl450prestine/7651617786.html
> >
> 2008 MERCEDES GL450(((PRESTINE))) - cars & trucks - by owner -...<
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/tangerine-2008-mercedes-gl450prestine/7651617786.html
> >
> 2008 MERCEDES GL450 SPORT UTILITY,LOADED EVERY OPTION,V-8,TOP OF THE LINE
> SUV TO MANY OPTIONS TO LIST HAS THEM ALL,HAS TOW PACKAGE,SILVER
> EXTERIOR,BLACK LEATHER INTERIOR IS IN GREAT...
> orlando.craigslist.org
>
> Is it me, or are people incapable of understanding the proper
> spelling/usage of the word "pristine"?
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] How's Your Aura, Dora?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

PRESTINE AND MANIC AND CAPSLOCK STUCK AND MANIC AND INCAPABLE OF TAKING WHOLE 
CAR PICTURES AND MANIC OR PICTURES IN FOCUS AND MANIC THATS A $5K VEHICLE GIVEN 
AGE AND MILES I’M MANIC AND NO TOW HITCH (THAT I CAN SEE EVEN THO IM MANIC AND 
ITS PRESTINE.  MAYBE A BIT MORE WITH ALL THE RECORDS BUT IT CAN GO 50 MILES 
EASILY

- FT

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> On Aug 6, 2023, at 8:41 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/tangerine-2008-mercedes-gl450prestine/7651617786.html
> [https://images.craigslist.org/00R0R_gTTspJYMSCD_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
> 2008 MERCEDES GL450(((PRESTINE))) - cars & trucks - by owner 
> -...
> 2008 MERCEDES GL450 SPORT UTILITY,LOADED EVERY OPTION,V-8,TOP OF THE LINE SUV 
> TO MANY OPTIONS TO LIST HAS THEM ALL,HAS TOW PACKAGE,SILVER EXTERIOR,BLACK 
> LEATHER INTERIOR IS IN GREAT...
> orlando.craigslist.org
> 
> Is it me, or are people incapable of understanding the proper spelling/usage 
> of the word "pristine"?
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] And it’s a diesel

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, at 23:00, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes wrote:

> I bought some lawnmower gas today here on tybee island … I like to use 
> ethanol free and it cost $16 to over fill a 2 and 1 gal gas can … 
> almost $5 a gal!!

I can get ethanol-free here at one place I know of, it's near the lake and sold 
as "boat gas" and yes it's about $5/g.

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Re: [MBZ] How's Your Aura, Dora?

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

THIS VEHICAL HAS BEEN MAINTAINED SINCE NEW COST UPWARD OF $75,000

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023, at 08:52, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> PRESTINE AND MANIC AND CAPSLOCK STUCK AND MANIC AND INCAPABLE OF TAKING 
> WHOLE CAR PICTURES AND MANIC OR PICTURES IN FOCUS AND MANIC THATS A $5K 
> VEHICLE GIVEN AGE AND MILES I’M MANIC AND NO TOW HITCH (THAT I CAN SEE 
> EVEN THO IM MANIC AND ITS PRESTINE.  MAYBE A BIT MORE WITH ALL THE 
> RECORDS BUT IT CAN GO 50 MILES EASILY
>
> - FT
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Aug 6, 2023, at 8:41 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/tangerine-2008-mercedes-gl450prestine/7651617786.html
>> [https://images.craigslist.org/00R0R_gTTspJYMSCD_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
>> 2008 MERCEDES GL450(((PRESTINE))) - cars & trucks - by owner 
>> -...
>> 2008 MERCEDES GL450 SPORT UTILITY,LOADED EVERY OPTION,V-8,TOP OF THE LINE 
>> SUV TO MANY OPTIONS TO LIST HAS THEM ALL,HAS TOW PACKAGE,SILVER 
>> EXTERIOR,BLACK LEATHER INTERIOR IS IN GREAT...
>> orlando.craigslist.org
>> 
>> Is it me, or are people incapable of understanding the proper spelling/usage 
>> of the word "pristine"?
>> 
>> -D
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[MBZ] 2004 C240 4matic - 112k miles - $2,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Looks like it might need a front bumper in addition to the windshield.

Maybe $800 - $1k if it's mechanically sound and you wanted a cheep klasse 
4matic as a winter beater.

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/cincinnati-2004-mercedes/7651664851.html
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[MBZ] Thumbnail pics -- 1973 28C Mercedes For Sale! - $14, 000 (Durham)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

But it looks nice

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/durham-mercedes-for-sale/7651449530.html

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[MBZ] Mercedes people are very picky; 1980 Mercedes 2 door 300 SD - $3,400 (St Augustine)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

300CD, not a $3400 car

https://staugustine.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-augustine-1980-mercedes-door-300/7651324537.html

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[MBZ] No A/C so perfect for the winter time Mercedes Benz ML430 2000 - $1, 600

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I’m fact just returned from DC. Dependable!

https://greensboro.craigslist.org/cto/d/greensboro-mercedes-benz-ml/7650910111.html

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[MBZ] Beater 2003 E320 -- CHEAP DEPENDABLE CAR - $1,800

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Good project for a kid, get some junkyard parts

https://wilmington.craigslist.org/cto/d/brunswick-cheap-dependable-car/7650782411.html

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[MBZ] R320CDI 4M with tow hitch -- 2008 Mercedes-Benz r-class, $3, 200

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Runs good,clean title,cash talks.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/768129938330451/

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[MBZ] 1972 Mercedes-Benz 300sel 4.5 & 280sel 4.5,$4,000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Interesting offer

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/308709721620293/

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Re: [MBZ] R320CDI 4M with tow hitch -- 2008 Mercedes-Benz r-class, $3, 200

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Is something leaking from under the dash? Front floor mats look wet.

A few bits and pieces missing or detached, but doesn't look too bad overall for 
a 200K mile car.


On Sun, Aug 6, 2023, at 11:34, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> Runs good,clean title,cash talks.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/768129938330451/
>
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[MBZ] 300 Hp Mercedes Eng. 413k miles, 2007 Freightliner m-2, $44, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Think of the damage I could do...

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/780443950485765/

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[MBZ] E320

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

My 21yo 'adulting' son is going to look at a 2000 E320 today,
to replace the rusting 1986 190D of mine he's been driving.
White/tan, 153kmi, 2wd.  IIRC they're asking $3900.  I've tried
to give him advice, and have offered any help he is willing to ask
for, but...

Any notable specific issues besides the spring perches?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] And it’s a diesel

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Pure gas here is 30 - 40 cents more than contaminated gas, $3.80/gal. last
I looked. I run it in both vehicles, the airplane, and all the lawn
maintenance engines.

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 9:59 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, at 23:00, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes wrote:
>
> > I bought some lawnmower gas today here on tybee island … I like to use
> > ethanol free and it cost $16 to over fill a 2 and 1 gal gas can …
> > almost $5 a gal!!
>
> I can get ethanol-free here at one place I know of, it's near the lake and
> sold as "boat gas" and yes it's about $5/g.
>
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In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
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-- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering
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Re: [MBZ] E320

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have a nice silver/gray 99E320 I would sell for $2600, about that many 
miles.  $3900 is stupid money but I'm sure he doesn't want to hear that


--FT

On 8/6/23 1:02 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

My 21yo 'adulting' son is going to look at a 2000 E320 today,
to replace the rusting 1986 190D of mine he's been driving.
White/tan, 153kmi, 2wd.  IIRC they're asking $3900.  I've tried
to give him advice, and have offered any help he is willing to ask
for, but...

Any notable specific issues besides the spring perches?

-- Jim


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[MBZ] I'm seeing rat rod here -- 1961 Mercedes-Benz,$1,500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/774563247758470

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Re: [MBZ] E320

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> I have a nice silver/gray 99E320 I would sell for $2600, about that many 
> miles.  $3900 is stupid money but I'm sure he doesn't want to hear that

His mother's 4wd version was $2500 a few years ago.
But, prices in WA are at record highs.  For example, gas
is (I believe) the highest in the nation.  My last trip a week
ago I saw $5.29 levels.  (I filled up in Oregon, at $4.35 instead.)
Other things track.

The fact that this car has been for sale for awhile, and not
snapped out from under him, is a fair clue that it might be
overpriced.

But, I suppose he's got to make his own mistakes.  He's never
been willing to listen to good advice before.  He's been made
aware that ALL expenses (insurance, license, etc.) are on him
for this one.  He's more the absent-minded professor type.
Needs a keeper...

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] E320

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

On 2023-08-06 13:02, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:


Any notable specific issues besides the spring perches?


Conductor plate, oil leaks in the transmission electrical connector, but 
the internet is full of info on fixing those economically, assuming the 
TCM hasn't been soaked in ATF yet.


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[MBZ] has recently been damaged by flood water 2003 Mercedes-Benz S-Class · S 430 4MATIC Sedan 4D. $700

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Looks nice enough. Has a noise coming from the motor 


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes people are very picky; 1980 Mercedes 2 door 300 SD - $3,400 (St Augustine)

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

And probably the absolute worst W123 coupe you could choose.

Normally aspirated and has the Type III ACC servo.

-D

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Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 12:18 PM
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Cc: Floyd Thursby 
Subject: [MBZ] Mercedes people are very picky; 1980 Mercedes 2 door 300 SD - 
$3,400 (St Augustine)

300CD, not a $3400 car

https://staugustine.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-augustine-1980-mercedes-door-300/7651324537.html

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Re: [MBZ] 1972 Mercedes-Benz 300sel 4.5 & 280sel 4.5,$4,000

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

That's a heck of a deal, even if you bought them for parts!

-D

From: Mercedes  on behalf of Floyd Thursby via 
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Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 12:38 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] 1972 Mercedes-Benz 300sel 4.5 & 280sel 4.5,$4,000

Interesting offer

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/308709721620293/

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Re: [MBZ] And it’s a diesel

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

In Floriduh, especially where the southern manse is, the good blue stuff is 
typically in the same price range as premium.

-D

From: Mercedes  on behalf of OK Don via Mercedes 

Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 1:09 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: OK Don 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] And it’s a diesel

Pure gas here is 30 - 40 cents more than contaminated gas, $3.80/gal. last
I looked. I run it in both vehicles, the airplane, and all the lawn
maintenance engines.

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> On Sat, Aug 5, 2023, at 23:00, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes wrote:
>
> > I bought some lawnmower gas today here on tybee island … I like to use
> > ethanol free and it cost $16 to over fill a 2 and 1 gal gas can …
> > almost $5 a gal!!
>
> I can get ethanol-free here at one place I know of, it's near the lake and
> sold as "boat gas" and yes it's about $5/g.
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Re: [MBZ] 1972 Mercedes-Benz 300sel 4.5 & 280sel 4.5,$4,000

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Hm

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> On Aug 6, 2023, at 4:12 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> 
> That's a heck of a deal, even if you bought them for parts!
> 
> -D
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Floyd Thursby via 
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> 
> Interesting offer
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/308709721620293/
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Re: [MBZ] 1972 Mercedes-Benz 300sel 4.5 & 280sel 4.5,$4,000

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I should buy them out from under Kleb

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> On Aug 6, 2023, at 5:12 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's a heck of a deal, even if you bought them for parts!
> 
> -D
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Floyd Thursby via 
> Mercedes 
> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2023 12:38 PM
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> 
> Interesting offer
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/308709721620293/
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes people are very picky; 1980 Mercedes 2 door 300 SD - $3,400 (St Augustine)

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You are very picky 

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> On Aug 6, 2023, at 5:08 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> And probably the absolute worst W123 coupe you could choose.
> 
> Normally aspirated and has the Type III ACC servo.
> 
> -D
> 
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> Subject: [MBZ] Mercedes people are very picky; 1980 Mercedes 2 door 300 SD - 
> $3,400 (St Augustine)
> 
> 300CD, not a $3400 car
> 
> https://staugustine.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-augustine-1980-mercedes-door-300/7651324537.html
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 C240 4matic - 112k miles - $2,000

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Hard to tell what condition it’s in but “as is” is enough to look at $1k. 
Probably a good winter beater with some cheap winter tires if you live In the 
snow regions 

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> Looks like it might need a front bumper in addition to the windshield.
> 
> Maybe $800 - $1k if it's mechanically sound and you wanted a cheep klasse 
> 4matic as a winter beater.
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[MBZ] Difference in build quality between old and new MB, aka todays GL adventures

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Wife is out of town and she tore up 2 things on the GL. First the rear hatch 
latch failed. Motor tried to suck in the door but it just doesn’t latch. This 
must be a common failure as new Chinese ones are available for less than $40 
all over eBay. The new dealer part is $300+ IIRC. Next thing was she said she 
heard a loud noise and now car won’t go over 20. That was the AAA debacle.

First up fix the issue that caused it to be towed home. I guess the loud noise 
was the intercooler hose popping off. The 642 behaves very strangely, surges, 
and barely moves with the hose off. Fixed that.

Next up, the rear hatch. That job took all of 15 minutes. The cheap Chinese 
latch looked identical to the one that came off the car. Will see how long it 
lasts. There are no tools required to remove all the trim around the back hatch 
and the rear inside panel. Everything is just plastic and held in with clips, 
just pops loose with your hands but be careful not to break anything. That now 
works great.

Next project was the failed drivers door lock actuator. These are not like the 
old days where you have a latch assembly and a separate actuator. It’s all one 
unit. This has not been working for a year so I decided to tackle the job. 
Pulled the one off one of the parts cars in the back 40. On the GL you have to 
pull the window regulator which is actually the entire inside panel of the 
door. There are a bunch of torx screws along the edge and the entire window 
regulator assembly gets pulled out along with the latch assembly all as 1 unit. 
The door latch is mounted to the window regulator. 

With the window regulator out, the entire center of the inner door is wide 
open. Within, there is a flimsy piece of sheet metal that runs across the door 
that I guess is supposed to reenforce it. It’s not like the big thing metal bar 
in the older cars such as 123, 126 etc. Pic attached showing this as well as 
the window regulator. 

Typically you just swap the whole lock assembly which best I can describe has 2 
parts. It’s like a puzzle figuring it all out the first time. On my car it has 
keyless go, and the parts car does not so I could not simply swap the whole 
assembly over because there is an extra harness that that donor part does not 
have. I had to separate the core door latch assembly from the other plastic 
piece that contains parts for the outside door handle. There is a cable that 
runs from the secondary assembly that when the outside door handle is pulled, 
it opens the latch. Had to do a little disassembly of this part to unhook the 
cable, then transfer it to the good latch out of the parts car. 

After reinstalling the now complete latch assembly onto the window regulator, 
it was now time to install the whole mess back in the door. You have to get it 
somewhat into place and then working thru the small holes where the outside 
door handle goes, fish the latch assembly into place then secured it with 
screws. Put everything back together and now the wife will not have to manually 
lock the drivers door. 

I will say after figuring out how the GL door panel comes off, there are only 2 
actual screws holding it in place, remove those and the rest is just clips. 
Comes off and goes back on super easy. 



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Re: [MBZ] Difference in build quality between old and new MB, aka todays GL adventures

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Attaboy!!

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> On Aug 6, 2023, at 8:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wife is out of town and she tore up 2 things on the GL. First the rear hatch 
> latch failed. Motor tried to suck in the door but it just doesn’t latch. This 
> must be a common failure as new Chinese ones are available for less than $40 
> all over eBay. The new dealer part is $300+ IIRC. Next thing was she said she 
> heard a loud noise and now car won’t go over 20. That was the AAA debacle.
> 
> First up fix the issue that caused it to be towed home. I guess the loud 
> noise was the intercooler hose popping off. The 642 behaves very strangely, 
> surges, and barely moves with the hose off. Fixed that.
> 
> Next up, the rear hatch. That job took all of 15 minutes. The cheap Chinese 
> latch looked identical to the one that came off the car. Will see how long it 
> lasts. There are no tools required to remove all the trim around the back 
> hatch and the rear inside panel. Everything is just plastic and held in with 
> clips, just pops loose with your hands but be careful not to break anything. 
> That now works great.
> 
> Next project was the failed drivers door lock actuator. These are not like 
> the old days where you have a latch assembly and a separate actuator. It’s 
> all one unit. This has not been working for a year so I decided to tackle the 
> job. Pulled the one off one of the parts cars in the back 40. On the GL you 
> have to pull the window regulator which is actually the entire inside panel 
> of the door. There are a bunch of torx screws along the edge and the entire 
> window regulator assembly gets pulled out along with the latch assembly all 
> as 1 unit. The door latch is mounted to the window regulator. 
> 
> With the window regulator out, the entire center of the inner door is wide 
> open. Within, there is a flimsy piece of sheet metal that runs across the 
> door that I guess is supposed to reenforce it. It’s not like the big thing 
> metal bar in the older cars such as 123, 126 etc. Pic attached showing this 
> as well as the window regulator. 
> 
> Typically you just swap the whole lock assembly which best I can describe has 
> 2 parts. It’s like a puzzle figuring it all out the first time. On my car it 
> has keyless go, and the parts car does not so I could not simply swap the 
> whole assembly over because there is an extra harness that that donor part 
> does not have. I had to separate the core door latch assembly from the other 
> plastic piece that contains parts for the outside door handle. There is a 
> cable that runs from the secondary assembly that when the outside door handle 
> is pulled, it opens the latch. Had to do a little disassembly of this part to 
> unhook the cable, then transfer it to the good latch out of the parts car. 
> 
> After reinstalling the now complete latch assembly onto the window regulator, 
> it was now time to install the whole mess back in the door. You have to get 
> it somewhat into place and then working thru the small holes where the 
> outside door handle goes, fish the latch assembly into place then secured it 
> with screws. Put everything back together and now the wife will not have to 
> manually lock the drivers door. 
> 
> I will say after figuring out how the GL door panel comes off, there are only 
> 2 actual screws holding it in place, remove those and the rest is just clips. 
> Comes off and goes back on super easy. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Difference in build quality between old and new MB, aka todays GL adventures

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 19:45:20 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> With the window regulator out, the entire center of the inner door is
> wide open. Within, there is a flimsy piece of sheet metal that runs
> across the door that I guess is supposed to reenforce it. It’s not like
> the big thing metal bar in the older cars such as 123, 126 etc. Pic
> attached showing this as well as the window regulator. 

And there is something in the upper-left of your "inside the door"
picture which is starting to rust and leaving a trail of rust down the
inside of the door.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] R320CDI 4M with tow hitch -- 2008 Mercedes-Benz r-class, $3, 200

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Why do they all have to be silver?

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023, 12:39 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Is something leaking from under the dash? Front floor mats look wet.
>
> A few bits and pieces missing or detached, but doesn't look too bad
> overall for a 200K mile car.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 6, 2023, at 11:34, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > Runs good,clean title,cash talks.
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/768129938330451/
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Re: [MBZ] Thumbnail pics -- 1973 28C Mercedes For Sale! - $14, 000 (Durham)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Lots of curb appeal. Red Interiors sell.

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023, 12:17 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> But it looks nice
>
>
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/durham-mercedes-for-sale/7651449530.html
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Re: [MBZ] Difference in build quality between old and new MB, aka todays GL adventures

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Good write up. Strong work. 

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> On Aug 6, 2023, at 8:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wife is out of town and she tore up 2 things on the GL. First the rear hatch 
> latch failed. Motor tried to suck in the door but it just doesn’t latch. This 
> must be a common failure as new Chinese ones are available for less than $40 
> all over eBay. The new dealer part is $300+ IIRC. Next thing was she said she 
> heard a loud noise and now car won’t go over 20. That was the AAA debacle.
> 
> First up fix the issue that caused it to be towed home. I guess the loud 
> noise was the intercooler hose popping off. The 642 behaves very strangely, 
> surges, and barely moves with the hose off. Fixed that.
> 
> Next up, the rear hatch. That job took all of 15 minutes. The cheap Chinese 
> latch looked identical to the one that came off the car. Will see how long it 
> lasts. There are no tools required to remove all the trim around the back 
> hatch and the rear inside panel. Everything is just plastic and held in with 
> clips, just pops loose with your hands but be careful not to break anything. 
> That now works great.
> 
> Next project was the failed drivers door lock actuator. These are not like 
> the old days where you have a latch assembly and a separate actuator. It’s 
> all one unit. This has not been working for a year so I decided to tackle the 
> job. Pulled the one off one of the parts cars in the back 40. On the GL you 
> have to pull the window regulator which is actually the entire inside panel 
> of the door. There are a bunch of torx screws along the edge and the entire 
> window regulator assembly gets pulled out along with the latch assembly all 
> as 1 unit. The door latch is mounted to the window regulator. 
> 
> With the window regulator out, the entire center of the inner door is wide 
> open. Within, there is a flimsy piece of sheet metal that runs across the 
> door that I guess is supposed to reenforce it. It’s not like the big thing 
> metal bar in the older cars such as 123, 126 etc. Pic attached showing this 
> as well as the window regulator. 
> 
> Typically you just swap the whole lock assembly which best I can describe has 
> 2 parts. It’s like a puzzle figuring it all out the first time. On my car it 
> has keyless go, and the parts car does not so I could not simply swap the 
> whole assembly over because there is an extra harness that that donor part 
> does not have. I had to separate the core door latch assembly from the other 
> plastic piece that contains parts for the outside door handle. There is a 
> cable that runs from the secondary assembly that when the outside door handle 
> is pulled, it opens the latch. Had to do a little disassembly of this part to 
> unhook the cable, then transfer it to the good latch out of the parts car. 
> 
> After reinstalling the now complete latch assembly onto the window regulator, 
> it was now time to install the whole mess back in the door. You have to get 
> it somewhat into place and then working thru the small holes where the 
> outside door handle goes, fish the latch assembly into place then secured it 
> with screws. Put everything back together and now the wife will not have to 
> manually lock the drivers door. 
> 
> I will say after figuring out how the GL door panel comes off, there are only 
> 2 actual screws holding it in place, remove those and the rest is just clips. 
> Comes off and goes back on super easy. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Difference in build quality between old and new MB, aka todays GL adventures

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

It is not rust, just a dirty water stain probably from a slight leak 
around the door handle.


On 8/6/2023 8:50 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 19:45:20 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:


With the window regulator out, the entire center of the inner door is
wide open. Within, there is a flimsy piece of sheet metal that runs
across the door that I guess is supposed to reenforce it. It’s not like
the big thing metal bar in the older cars such as 123, 126 etc. Pic
attached showing this as well as the window regulator.

And there is something in the upper-left of your "inside the door"
picture which is starting to rust and leaving a trail of rust down the
inside of the door.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Difference in build quality between old and new MB, aka todays GL adventures

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 22:50:31 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> It is not rust, just a dirty water stain probably from a slight leak 
> around the door handle.

Oh, OK.


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Re: [MBZ] Difference in build quality between old and new MB, aka todays GL adventures

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have never seen any rust on a X/W164, but I am sure there are rusty 
cars out there.  These do not seem prone to rust.


On 8/6/2023 10:52 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 22:50:31 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:


It is not rust, just a dirty water stain probably from a slight leak
around the door handle.

Oh, OK.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Difference in build quality between old and new MB, aka todays GL adventures

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On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 22:54:21 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I have never seen any rust on a X/W164, but I am sure there are rusty 
> cars out there.  These do not seem prone to rust.

It's good to know they have gotten the rust proofing right.


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Re: [MBZ] Difference in build quality between old and new MB, aka todays GL adventures

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

If you drive in the winter on salted roads, in my experience rust is 
inevitable. Some cars hold out longer than others before it becomes a visible 
problem.


On Sun, Aug 6, 2023, at 23:38, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 22:54:21 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
>> I have never seen any rust on a X/W164, but I am sure there are rusty 
>> cars out there.  These do not seem prone to rust.
>
> It's good to know they have gotten the rust proofing right.
>
>
> Craig
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