Re: [MBZ] Today's Project - CL600

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

On 2023-09-30 22:49, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

I am thinking someone changed the calipers on my 300SD and used the 
ones

for 1978 or 1979 instead of 1980.


I'd been thinking that maybe your car no longer had the correct 
calipers, but I think I forgot to say it.


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Re: [MBZ] Today's Project - CL600

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Believe it or not, the spindle nut covers for the wiper arms are optional. I 
can get you a part number, they’re still available for a couple of bucks apiece.

-D

> On Sep 30, 2023, at 8:05 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> Changed oil in the E500 today. Used the HF oil sucker. Sure wish I'd bought 
> one of those a long time ago. I presume the filters are packaged for multiple 
> applications and it's normal to have an extra O-ring in the package.
> 
> Also installed new wiper blades. Couldn't figure out the passenger side very 
> well, could not fully raise that wiper arm with the hood open or closed. 
> Ended up bending the blade to get it under the back edge of the hood with the 
> hood in the full vertical position. Seems no worse for it, but thinking 
> that's not the right way.
> 
> I noticed there's no cover on the driver side wiper spindle nut. Should there 
> be?
> 
> Tomorrow I plan to replace the serpentine belt idler wheel which has gotten 
> noisy, and maybe the motor mounts if I get ambitious.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Sep 30, 2023, at 18:54, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Busy at mum-in-law’s place through midday doing some work around her 
>> place. Got back after swinging by MB of Tampa and picking up a few 
>> parts.
>> 
>> One was a new set of LEDs for the right taillight brake light. Most of 
>> the lamps are incandescent, but the brake lights at the top of the lens 
>> are three panels of LEDs that are daisy-chained together.
>> 
>> So no more griping about a bad brake light. Tomorrow I’m swapping out 
>> the left front SAM to see if that makes the ABS happy again.
>> 
>> -D
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[MBZ] has a “clunk” in the front end under harder acceleration.2010 Mercedes-Benz gl-class GL 450 Sport Utility 4D,$4,500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Engine mount?  Looks like tow package, 154kmi, looks decent

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[MBZ] This Looks Fairly Well Done...

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

..but there’s no look-alike kit car worth that kind of money, IMHO:


[00h0h_btNyUgR7t7_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
1937 Jaguar replica for sale by owner - Spring Hill, FL - 
craigslist
tampa.craigslist.org

-D
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[MBZ] OT The car park over a year on the backyard 1985 Jaguar Xsj, $1

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

how bad could it be?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/829391198852088

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[MBZ] twofer -- 1969 Mercedes-Benz 300 d,$3,900

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

They look half decent, complete

1969 red stars and drive 1968 green need injector and battery Dos has rust

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1021881585716097

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[MBZ] 67 merecedes 200d sedan fully restored 30 years ago Garage find, $10, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

has been in this garage ever since.

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Re: [MBZ] twofer -- 1969 Mercedes-Benz 300 d,$3,900

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The sad thing is that given the effort, that paint could probably be recovered.

-D

> On Oct 1, 2023, at 11:47 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> They look half decent, complete
> 
> 1969 red stars and drive 1968 green need injector and battery Dos has rust
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1021881585716097
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[MBZ] Kaleb needs this for his wife's ice cream pie business -- 2002 Freightliner mercedes, $3, 000

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/223370924072373/

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[MBZ] NO TRADES AND STUPID OFFERS. 2006 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 500 Sedan 4D, $7, 500

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looks nice but spendy

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Re: [MBZ] This Looks Fairly Well Done...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It looks just like those MB kit cars

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On 10/1/23 11:45 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

..but there’s no look-alike kit car worth that kind of money, IMHO:


[00h0h_btNyUgR7t7_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
1937 Jaguar replica for sale by owner - Spring Hill, FL - 
craigslist
tampa.craigslist.org

-D

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Re: [MBZ] twofer -- 1969 Mercedes-Benz 300 d,$3,900

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I'm seeing projects in your future!

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On 10/1/23 11:50 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

The sad thing is that given the effort, that paint could probably be recovered.

-D


On Oct 1, 2023, at 11:47 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

They look half decent, complete

1969 red stars and drive 1968 green need injector and battery Dos has rust

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1021881585716097

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[MBZ] these cars are notorious for is the soft top does not come up. 1990 Mercedes-Benz 500 sl Roadster 2D, $25, 950

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

$26k and the top doesn't work???  I kinda like the wheels though.  Must 
be a case of the wife telling him he needed to sell the car so he put an 
extra 2 on the price


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[MBZ] I need this 2018 Mercedes-Benz,$148,000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

And get my buddy to help add another 600hp or so

2018 Mercedes Benz amg gtr green hell magno with 18500 miles

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Re: [MBZ] Today's Project - CL600

[David Bruckmann via Mercedes]

FWIW, when I last ordered front pads for my '79 300SD (WDB11612012010864) with
Bendix calipers, Tom Hanson of the Classic Centre gave me 001-420-78-20
($42 before discount) as the correct number, and they did fit (tight!).

D.

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, Allan and Craig wrote:

>
> On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 21:22:17 -0500 "Allan Streib" 
> wrote:
>
> > I had the same problem with my '79 300SD when I replaced the front
> > calipers. I ended up filing part of the caliper body for clearance. I
> > actually now don't remember if the pads didn't fit, or maybe it was the
> > caliper that didn't quite fit the bracket without bumping into
> > something.
> >
> > I think different calipers could be used, almost randomly, mainly ATE
> > or Girling, not sure if there were others. You need to look at what you
> > have and order the same type. I didn't do that.
>
> I think the 1980 also
> The service manual in Section 42-220 says,
>
> Attention!
> Models 116.024, 116.033, and 116.120  (USA)  1980
> are provided with modified calipers with linings 17.5 mm
> thick and modified, vented break disks, which are
> identified with a groove at their circumference.
>
> So I know something's up with the 1980 300SD. I think the 1980 versions
> also used Bendix.
>
> I called the Classic Center, but the fellow could only tell me part
> numbers and not what changed.
>
> In looking at the pictures of calipers on RockAuto's website, I see some
> calipers which have a raised boss which would move the caliper inboard a
> little (which is where my pads don't fit).
>
> I am thinking someone changed the calipers on my 300SD and used the ones
> for 1978 or 1979 instead of 1980.
>
> So, I may have to add new calipers to my on-hand new disks and pads.
>
> Craig
>
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Octane and Knock Sensors

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Agreed, higher octane also resists ignition due to compression. If the reason 
for pinging was high compression there isn't much the computer can do about it. 
I suppose that in a forced induction engine it could open the waste gate to 
reduce boost or if it was a VNT turbo just make less boost in the first place.
I dislike these kind of articles, they true but only to a point. You get some 
chowder head driving a high compression engine hard and they'll burn it down 
with cheap gas...
Curt

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  On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 9:56 AM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:   > Accurate or BS?

Well yes and no. Here is some of what I learned by 
reading the Bosch Automotive Technology handbook.

  > What is the difference between higher octane 
and lower octane?
  > Well, 87 octane will ignite at a lower 
pressure than 93 octane.

Here he is wrong. We all know from our experiments 
in igniting items that require burning, that 
gasoline will ignite in open air without pressure 
no matter what octane it is. So the real 
explanation is that both low and high octane will 
ignite at the same pressure but lower octane gas 
will burn faster at a given pressure than higher 
octane. This isn't normally noticed by our slow 
senses but in the cylinder the flame front rate of 
the burning will travel faster in low octane fuel 
than in a higher octane. The higher the octane, 
the slower the burn rate. If the pressure in the 
cylinder is increased the molecules are squeezed 
together more thus increasing the burn rate in any 
octane fuel, till what results is a rather quick 
and sudden explosion. Again at a lower pressure 
for lower octane vs. higher octane. This results 
in all the way from a slight ping of the valves 
being shoved closed faster than the spring rate on 
the valve springs were designed for, to a sudden 
louder more violent knock of a piston slap and or 
rod knock in more severe cases, from overpressure 
rather than a controlled progressive burn as the 
engineers intended. This has even been known to 
break crankshafts or totally destroy engines as is 
seen in drag racing all the time. Increasing the 
octane reduces that burn rate giving time for the 
piston to get over TDC. So in the end a slightly 
earlier ignition timing or higher compression or 
both can be used to get more power from the same 
amount of gas or more gas and air can be inducted 
and thus allowing even more power to be produced.

> So, with 93 octane, you can compress the air (think turbo or supercharger) 
> and have the
 > spark ignite sooner (timing advance) which 
creates more power. With 87 octane, since it

change here to explodes or detonates not just

> ignites at a lower pressure,
 > high compression engines might ignite the gas 
before the intake valve closes and you
 > hear a noise (ping). Often, in old cars, you 
will hear this pinging under load (moderate
 > throttle going uphill). What this noise is, is 
the detonation of the gas and air mixture

or exploding

> in your cylinders before the intake valve is closed. The explosion is 
> partially sent into the intake

not..., some of the gas and air mixture might get 
pushed back but no actual explosion or flame 
because in that case you would get an immediate 
backfire and flame out of the carburetor. Or in 
the case of drag racing seeing your supercharger 
get blown off the engine.

> causing the noise. What a knock sensor does is detect this noise (the “pings” 
> or “knocks”)
> and tells the computer to spark/ignite at a slightly later time.
> 
Which allows the piston to travel over TDC and 
reduce the pressure and speed of the burn. Though 
usually the detected ping is so small before it is 
corrected that most people don't even notice it.

> *The only reason the manufacture tells you that you have to run premium fuel 
> if that the
> vehicle was tested for gas mileage with premium. Running premium will get you 
> slightly
 > more power per molecule of fuel, thus better 
gas mileage. If you run 87 octane, you might
 > get slightly (and I mean slightly)

Probably 1-2 MPG which can always be excused by 
citing driving technique

> less gas mileage out of your vehicle. The manufacture
 > doesn’t want to get sued for advertising a 
certain MPG and you getting slightly less. They
 > have to tell you to run premium or risk 
litigation with the EPS or the consumer.”
> 
> Accurate or BS?
> 
> AZBob
> 
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[MBZ] Decent looking 1998 E320 Wagon - 111k miles - $7,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Color scheme is a shame but looks decent otherwise if the paint will clean up.

A few mechanical issues but nothing that sounds terribly difficult. Should have 
some life left with that mileage and sounds like it's been maintained.

Price probably high?

https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/hilliard-1998-e320-wagon-4matic/7671904355.html

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Re: [MBZ] Decent looking 1998 E320 Wagon - 111k miles - $7,000

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

For that money you could buy a really nice 211 E500 wagon 10years newer

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> On Oct 1, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Color scheme is a shame but looks decent otherwise if the paint will clean 
> up.
> 
> A few mechanical issues but nothing that sounds terribly difficult. Should 
> have some life left with that mileage and sounds like it's been maintained.
> 
> Price probably high?
> 
> https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/hilliard-1998-e320-wagon-4matic/7671904355.html
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Re: [MBZ] Decent looking 1998 E320 Wagon - 111k miles - $7,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Yeah probably in the South. Don't see many around here.

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, at 12:26, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> For that money you could buy a really nice 211 E500 wagon 10years newer
>
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>> On Oct 1, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Color scheme is a shame but looks decent otherwise if the paint will clean 
>> up.
>> 
>> A few mechanical issues but nothing that sounds terribly difficult. Should 
>> have some life left with that mileage and sounds like it's been maintained.
>> 
>> Price probably high?
>> 
>> https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/hilliard-1998-e320-wagon-4matic/7671904355.html
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Project - CL600

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 09:08:56 -0700 David Bruckmann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> FWIW, when I last ordered front pads for my '79 300SD
> (WDB11612012010864) with Bendix calipers, Tom Hanson of the Classic
> Centre gave me 001-420-78-20 ($42 before discount) as the correct
> number, and they did fit (tight!).

Was Tom Hanson able to tell what changed in various years?

Is there anyone there now who can?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT The car park over a year on the backyard 1985 Jaguar Xsj, $1

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So bad that it isn't listed anymore.

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 11:46 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> how bad could it be?
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/829391198852088
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Re: [MBZ] twofer -- 1969 Mercedes-Benz 300 d,$3,900

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If both steering wheels are uncracked there's $500 right off the top.

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 11:59 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> I'm seeing projects in your future!
>
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>
> On 10/1/23 11:50 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > The sad thing is that given the effort, that paint could probably be
> recovered.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Oct 1, 2023, at 11:47 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>  wrote:
> >>
> >> They look half decent, complete
> >>
> >> 1969 red stars and drive 1968 green need injector and battery Dos has
> rust
> >>
> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1021881585716097
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[MBZ] OT: Running '71 RR for $12.5k

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Doesn't look bad. If anyone's interested I can check it out

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Running '71 RR for $12.5k

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How about I just send you a stack of hunnerd doller bills to burn

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> Doesn't look bad. If anyone's interested I can check it out
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Re: [MBZ] Lift is done, need windows 95 help

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I think you can buy a converter dongle to use a USB or other mouse. 

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> On Oct 1, 2023, at 5:16 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> Lift install is complete. Fired up the Hunter alignment machine which runs 
> on Windows 95. It starts up and loads into the alignment software just fine. 
> The issue I have run into is the mouse is dead. It’s a really old serial 
> mouse. I just got to thinking these probably require drivers or something and 
> are not plug and play. I’m not sure if the mouse is dead or it’s something 
> else. The com port is enabled in the bios. This thing only has a ps/2 port 
> for the keyboard. I guess my first thing I need to refresh on is how to get 
> around 95 with no mouse. Second would be troubleshooting a serial mouse or 
> installing a new one if one can be found. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Running '71 RR for $12.5k

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

 Better than paying twice that with similar results.

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 5:43 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> How about I just send you a stack of hunnerd doller bills to burn
>
> --FT
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> >
> > Doesn't look bad. If anyone's interested I can check it out
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Lift is done, need windows 95 help

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

Does this help?
You should be able to at least get into device manager and look at your 
com ports.

http://shortcutmania.com/Windows-95-Keyboard-Shortcuts.htm

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Re: [MBZ] Lift is done, need windows 95 help

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Try another mouse if you have one. If it's the old type with the rubber ball, 
try cleaning that.

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, at 16:15, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Lift install is complete. Fired up the Hunter alignment machine which runs on 
> Windows 95. It starts up and loads into the alignment software just fine. The 
> issue I have run into is the mouse is dead. It’s a really old serial mouse. I 
> just got to thinking these probably require drivers or something and are not 
> plug and play. I’m not sure if the mouse is dead or it’s something else. The 
> com port is enabled in the bios. This thing only has a ps/2 port for the 
> keyboard. I guess my first thing I need to refresh on is how to get around 95 
> with no mouse. Second would be troubleshooting a serial mouse or installing a 
> new one if one can be found. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Lift is done, need windows 95 help

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I think Martha is having twitches just looking at the dirt on that.

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, at 17:16, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> I figured out how to use the remote box that has the soft keys for different 
> functions. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Oct 1, 2023, at 4:44 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> > 
> > I think you can buy a converter dongle to use a USB or other mouse.
> > 
> > --FT
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> >> On Oct 1, 2023, at 5:16 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Lift install is complete. Fired up the Hunter alignment machine which 
> >> runs on Windows 95. It starts up and loads into the alignment software 
> >> just fine. The issue I have run into is the mouse is dead. It’s a really 
> >> old serial mouse. I just got to thinking these probably require drivers or 
> >> something and are not plug and play. I’m not sure if the mouse is dead or 
> >> it’s something else. The com port is enabled in the bios. This thing only 
> >> has a ps/2 port for the keyboard. I guess my first thing I need to refresh 
> >> on is how to get around 95 with no mouse. Second would be troubleshooting 
> >> a serial mouse or installing a new one if one can be found.
> >> 
> >> 
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[MBZ] 2008 GL450 - 130k miles - $6,500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Good condition. Or fair, take your pick.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/cto/d/chicago-mercedes/7672159723.html
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