Re: [MBZ] remove sludge from w123 diesel

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Black oil is to be expected. It's the nature of a diesel. Perhaps Mobil 1 is 
not as high quality of an oil as it once was. If you do use a flush product, I 
would probably pull the lower pan after draining the oil to make darn sure 
there is no chunks of sludge that will plug the oil screen.

Here is a flush product that is allegedly very good. I've never used it. Follow 
the instructions to a T.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07TK1BH1D/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_6?smid=A1EGOV5KZD8TMZ=1

I would probably use this though, just because it's from Germany.

https://www.amazon.com/Liqui-Moly-2037-Pro-Line-Engine/dp/B00CR3RXTO/?tag=drive09e6-20

Rick



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Subject: [MBZ] remove sludge from w123 diesel

Good Afternoon!
When I was adjusting the valves last fall I was surprised to see that there
seemed to be a slight build-up of sort of gummy oil around the valves.  Was
not terrible but I could understand why it might not want to drain out in
an oil change.

I have heard some conflicting advice on using sludge removal on these
engines and was curious if anyone had any advice on this.  There are some
products from Liqui Moly that look interesting. It explains why my oil goes
black instantly after an oil change.  I have had the car for over 15 years
and it had only 68kmi when I got it.  I have used synthetic oil since I got
it, mostly Mobil 1 15-50.

Thanks in advance!

Dan Elliott - Philadelphia area
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Re: [MBZ] Surely somebody here needs this

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That all has to be worth quite a bit 

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[MBZ] Surely somebody here needs this

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Re: [MBZ] How to remove a 124 door handle

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Ummm ...



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[MBZ] How to remove a 124 door handle

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Re: [MBZ] remove sludge from w123 diesel

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Where exactly is this gummy oil? On top of the head under the cam cover? 
If so, you should be able to rinse it out of there. Plug the oil drain 
holes to keep it from washing down into the oil pan, and then spray it 
out with Varsol. Will make a bit of a mess, but clean the engine off 
after you put the cam cover back on. Don't forget to pull out what ever 
you used to plug the drain holes.


Watch to see if it comes back when you adjust the valves again.

Randy




On 17/02/2024 12:25 PM, Dan Elliott via Mercedes wrote:

Good Afternoon!
When I was adjusting the valves last fall I was surprised to see that there
seemed to be a slight build-up of sort of gummy oil around the valves.  Was
not terrible but I could understand why it might not want to drain out in
an oil change.

I have heard some conflicting advice on using sludge removal on these
engines and was curious if anyone had any advice on this.  There are some
products from Liqui Moly that look interesting. It explains why my oil goes
black instantly after an oil change.  I have had the car for over 15 years
and it had only 68kmi when I got it.  I have used synthetic oil since I got
it, mostly Mobil 1 15-50.

Thanks in advance!

Dan Elliott - Philadelphia area
1982 300D turbo 189kmi



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Re: [MBZ] remove sludge from w123 diesel

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Your oil is going to go black immediately after an oil change, that’s the 
nature of these diesels. 

Not sure about the valve buildup. Might be worth trying some product for awhile 
and see if that helps. 

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> On Feb 17, 2024, at 1:26 PM, Dan Elliott via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Good Afternoon!
> When I was adjusting the valves last fall I was surprised to see that there
> seemed to be a slight build-up of sort of gummy oil around the valves.  Was
> not terrible but I could understand why it might not want to drain out in
> an oil change.
> 
> I have heard some conflicting advice on using sludge removal on these
> engines and was curious if anyone had any advice on this.  There are some
> products from Liqui Moly that look interesting. It explains why my oil goes
> black instantly after an oil change.  I have had the car for over 15 years
> and it had only 68kmi when I got it.  I have used synthetic oil since I got
> it, mostly Mobil 1 15-50.
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Dan Elliott - Philadelphia area
> 1982 300D turbo 189kmi
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Re: [MBZ] remove sludge from w123 diesel

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

How long have you had it? If you are using synthetic it should clear up in its 
own after a while. Might try a while but it should.


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> On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:26 PM, Dan Elliott via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good Afternoon!
> When I was adjusting the valves last fall I was surprised to see that there
> seemed to be a slight build-up of sort of gummy oil around the valves.  Was
> not terrible but I could understand why it might not want to drain out in
> an oil change.
> 
> I have heard some conflicting advice on using sludge removal on these
> engines and was curious if anyone had any advice on this.  There are some
> products from Liqui Moly that look interesting. It explains why my oil goes
> black instantly after an oil change.  I have had the car for over 15 years
> and it had only 68kmi when I got it.  I have used synthetic oil since I got
> it, mostly Mobil 1 15-50.
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Dan Elliott - Philadelphia area
> 1982 300D turbo 189kmi
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[MBZ] remove sludge from w123 diesel

[Dan Elliott via Mercedes]

Good Afternoon!
When I was adjusting the valves last fall I was surprised to see that there
seemed to be a slight build-up of sort of gummy oil around the valves.  Was
not terrible but I could understand why it might not want to drain out in
an oil change.

I have heard some conflicting advice on using sludge removal on these
engines and was curious if anyone had any advice on this.  There are some
products from Liqui Moly that look interesting. It explains why my oil goes
black instantly after an oil change.  I have had the car for over 15 years
and it had only 68kmi when I got it.  I have used synthetic oil since I got
it, mostly Mobil 1 15-50.

Thanks in advance!

Dan Elliott - Philadelphia area
1982 300D turbo 189kmi
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Re: [MBZ] black editor and interior. 2009 Mercedes-Benz cls-class CLS 550 Coupe 4D, $8, 900

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

A coupe with two extra doors. Awesome.

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Re: [MBZ] Bring $2000 and a trailer and do as you wish with it 2011 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 350 Sedan 4D, $2, 000

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 17/02/2024 8:05 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
What you see is what you get. Clean GA title in hand. Accident was not 
reported to insurance only had Liability. Car runs but isn’t 
drive-able. Prior to accident there were no issues with the vehicle. 
Has brand new new tires as well. Again clean GA title in hand.


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/712436551063143

I think this is a classic case of an extra zero in the price. If you 
really needed the engine and transmission and if it could be determined 
that it was not damaged in the accident, then it might be worth it but 
apart from that, I think one might be hard pressed to break even parting 
it out.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] There is a Special Place in Hell....

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On 17/02/2024 9:32 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1436948973866901/

AZBob

Sad that so many of these reasonably decent old MB diesels are being 
ruined by fools.


Randy
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Re: [MBZ] But the Color...

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 17/02/2024 9:46 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/711074094523016/

AZBob



I could live with the colour. Classy and stealthy at the same time.

Randy
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Re: [MBZ] Mogalicious

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 17/02/2024 9:43 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:


Finally, a  cool video:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/278067711796647/

I want to reach out to this guy and thank him for a good post. Kinda 
refreshing.


AZBob


Needs a good sturdy roll bar.

Randy
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Re: [MBZ] But the Color...

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

And the pimpy chrome wheels, too.

A very nice example from the looks and description.

-D

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AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] There is a Special Place in Hell....

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Amen. And only in rural CO.

-D


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AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] Mogalicious

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

This resurfaces my thoughts about why I don’t see more Mogs as rock crawlers? 
Too big/heavy/tall (high center of gravity?.)

-D

On Feb 17, 2024, at 8:44 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
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Finally, a  cool video:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/278067711796647/

I want to reach out to this guy and thank him for a good post. Kinda refreshing.

AZBob

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[MBZ] But the Color...

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/711074094523016/ AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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[MBZ] Mogalicious

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Finally, a  cool video: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/278067711796647/ I want to reach out to this guy and thank him for a good post. Kinda refreshing. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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[MBZ] Interesting Definition of Perfect

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/405988455302753/ The car is in perfect conditions the engine and the transition have no faults are very good is very safe for work AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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[MBZ] There is a Special Place in Hell....

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[MBZ] black editor and interior. 2009 Mercedes-Benz cls-class CLS 550 Coupe 4D, $8, 900

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1044960863278109

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[MBZ] Bring $2000 and a trailer and do as you wish with it 2011 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 350 Sedan 4D, $2, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

What you see is what you get. Clean GA title in hand. Accident was not 
reported to insurance only had Liability. Car runs but isn’t drive-able. 
Prior to accident there were no issues with the vehicle. Has brand new 
new tires as well. Again clean GA title in hand.


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/712436551063143

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