[MBZ] I have been restoring and not much left to do - 1995 SL500

2024-06-19 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Some might disagree.

https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/nashville-sl/7758515716.html
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[MBZ] Nice looking W126 300SD

2024-06-19 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Cheep Walmart house brand tires though.

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[MBZ] My keyboard has no punctuation characters - 1985 380 SL - 128k miles - $6, 500

2024-06-19 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Also I capitialze Words at random

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Re: [MBZ] Axle challenge

2024-06-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 18:50:11 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I got the thing back together quite easily. I jiggered the inner joint
> around a bit and it slid right on! Yay in that. 

Congratulations! I was going to suggest using a hose clamp to compress
the ring to get things started and then taking it off to mate things
further, but you got it done without that!


> I have to replace a LCA on the right, the ball joint was completely
> shot and rattling. 

Yes, that says you do need to replace it. How did it get so bad? Lack of
lubrication?


> Progress!

Press on!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Axle challenge

2024-06-19 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I got the thing back together quite easily. I jiggered the inner joint around a 
bit and it slid right on! Yay in that. 

Getting the hub end back in with 2 LCA ball joints was a bit more challenging, 
one kinda conflicts with the outer CV joint but with various shifting around I 
got everything back together. Gotta tighten up the nuts and outer axle bolt in 
the hub then on to the right side.

I’m gonna get another inner seal while I’ve got it apart. I was stupid snd 
didn’t order one, now I’m gonna have to go to the stealer. Called them this 
afternoon and their parts computer was down so the guy couldn’t check, but in 
JAX there were 27. Not that that does me any good tomorrow. 

I have to replace a LCA on the right, the ball joint was completely shot and 
rattling. 

Progress!

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> On Jun 19, 2024, at 4:12 PM, Buggered Benzmail  
> wrote:
> 
> The issue on both axles is this snap ring thing that sits in a slot on the 
> male axle spline then there is a corresponding slot in the female end. 
> Compressing it to get the axle off is the challenge. It’s brute force it 
> seems, you just have to physically overcome the whole purpose of it. This one 
> is on the left side with the male end on the diff. The ring actually stayed 
> on the stub when the cup came off so I can reuse that one.
> 
> I’m starting to try to get it back together and of course there’s no way to 
> push the axle on, nothing to push on. I don’t really see how a compression 
> tool would work either as there is a little ramp on the end of the female end 
> that will fit over it, I’m not sure if it will actually compress it without 
> some force. But I shall have at it.
> 
> The ring is almost at the outboard end of the shaft, the corresponding groove 
> is way up in the cup.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 617s suck

2024-06-19 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
When I look at the 617 sitting in my 300SD there seems to be all kinds of room 
around it compared to the E500. Never done the turbo drain though.


On Wed, Jun 19, 2024, at 16:04, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> I just worked on a 617 for the first time in probably 10-15 years. The 
> agenda was turbo train tube seal, valve adjustment, oil/filter change, 
> hood release cable. I finally got the turbo drain tube out after 
> fighting it for 4 hours. This is nothing short of a whore of a job. 
> Taking apart a 642 for an oil cooler seals job seems easier. I now 
> remember why the 617 sucks to work on. It’s now nearly 100 out in the 
> shop and I’m done messing with it.
>

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[MBZ] Axle challenge

2024-06-19 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
The issue on both axles is this snap ring thing that sits in a slot on the male 
axle spline then there is a corresponding slot in the female end. Compressing 
it to get the axle off is the challenge. It’s brute force it seems, you just 
have to physically overcome the whole purpose of it. This one is on the left 
side with the male end on the diff. The ring actually stayed on the stub when 
the cup came off so I can reuse that one. 

I’m starting to try to get it back together and of course there’s no way to 
push the axle on, nothing to push on. I don’t really see how a compression tool 
would work either as there is a little ramp on the end of the female end that 
will fit over it, I’m not sure if it will actually compress it without some 
force. But I shall have at it. 

The ring is almost at the outboard end of the shaft, the corresponding groove 
is way up in the cup. 





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[MBZ] 617s suck

2024-06-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I just worked on a 617 for the first time in probably 10-15 years. The agenda 
was turbo train tube seal, valve adjustment, oil/filter change, hood release 
cable. I finally got the turbo drain tube out after fighting it for 4 hours. 
This is nothing short of a whore of a job. Taking apart a 642 for an oil cooler 
seals job seems easier. I now remember why the 617 sucks to work on. It’s now 
nearly 100 out in the shop and I’m done messing with it.

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[MBZ] I guess the top is inop -- 2002 Mercedes-Benz clk-class CLK 55 AMG Cabriolet 2D, $1, 000

2024-06-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
But still for $1k if it is indeed a 55... conductor plate or shift 
module? Easy fix


RUNS BUT DOES NOT DRIVE the electronic transmission release is faulty.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/480181397701872/

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[MBZ] temperature will jump after 10 minutes. 2011 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 550 Sedan 4D, $5, 500

2024-06-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
115kmi, looks to be fairly decent, driver seat divot, rubber band 
tires.  I wonder if these have an air bubble issue in the cooling 
system. $4k?


Bought a new vehicle don’t have time to mess with it. Does have a 
salvage title.


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Re: [MBZ] G-d help me

2024-06-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Grooming a poodle probably costs about the same as a dealer-performed oil
change.

On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 12:35 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I took poodles to the groomer this morning. Right near the place, which is
> in a back country road on the Island, I saw a slammed CL sitting in a front
> yard. On the way back I stopped in the road to get a closer look at it,
> couldn’t tell if it was a 500 or 600. Don’t see many around so my curiosity
> was aroused. When I go back to pick up the dogs I might stop by see if
> anyone is home.
>
> As I was leaving an R63 parked next to me. I know that car, belongs to a
> woman I know, I had seen her driving it.  She lives up the road a bit on a
> nice property on the creek. I haven’t seen her for awhile. I asked the guy
> getting out if he was her husband. (I met him once but can’t remember what
> he looked like). The guy says with a Brit-type accent oh no I’m just
> bringing the dogs. I said I liked the car and he says yeah I wish I had
> their money and it would be mine, they have a bunch of cars and don’t drive
> this one much. So I said well tell Alicia if she wants to sell it on…
>
> So that was my morning temptations. Get thee behind me Satan!!!
>
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Success!!!

2024-06-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
No not really.  I had thought of that, using some sort of small 
hydraulic bottle jack but the issue is that the cup ends that fit on the 
intermediate shaft (both sides) sit up inside the frame rail on both 
sides.  You can sorta reach in there from the bottom, there is a bit of 
opening but not a lot, and maybe with more clearance (car up higher than 
I have it) and a mallet and rod of some sort it might be possible, but 
then that might damage the bearings on the intermediate shaft.  Plus 
getting some tension on the cable would be kinda hard given how the 
whole thing is set up.


The main issue seems to be that there are retaining rings in a slot on 
both the intermediate shaft and the axles both sides, and these have to 
be compressed or something as the axle is being pulled out.  This will 
probably be some sort of issue putting it back together, the WIS shows a 
compression tool like those things for getting fuel line fittings off, I 
have a set of those.  This one they show is $150!!!


--FT

On 6/19/24 11:46 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

Was there any way to use the cable to put static tension on the dingus,
and then whack the dingus with a hammer?

-- Jim


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[MBZ] G-d help me

2024-06-19 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I took poodles to the groomer this morning. Right near the place, which is in a 
back country road on the Island, I saw a slammed CL sitting in a front yard. On 
the way back I stopped in the road to get a closer look at it, couldn’t tell if 
it was a 500 or 600. Don’t see many around so my curiosity was aroused. When I 
go back to pick up the dogs I might stop by see if anyone is home. 

As I was leaving an R63 parked next to me. I know that car, belongs to a woman 
I know, I had seen her driving it.  She lives up the road a bit on a nice 
property on the creek. I haven’t seen her for awhile. I asked the guy getting 
out if he was her husband. (I met him once but can’t remember what he looked 
like). The guy says with a Brit-type accent oh no I’m just bringing the dogs. I 
said I liked the car and he says yeah I wish I had their money and it would be 
mine, they have a bunch of cars and don’t drive this one much. So I said well 
tell Alicia if she wants to sell it on…

So that was my morning temptations. Get thee behind me Satan!!!

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Re: [MBZ] Success!!!

2024-06-19 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Was there any way to use the cable to put static tension on the dingus,
and then whack the dingus with a hammer?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Success!!!

2024-06-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Yes.  $400. It's basically two bars that fit either end of the inside 
part of the axle with threaded rods that connect the ends of each bar 
and the slide hammer shaft screws into one of the bars. Probably 
something I could make but that would have taken a fair amount of effort 
but maybe not as much as I ended up with.  I don't know.


--FT

On 6/19/24 11:16 AM, Allan Streib wrote:

I assume there's an expensive Mercedes tool meant for this job? And would it 
have been worth it?

On Wed, Jun 19, 2024, at 00:09, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah I could feel some give on it but I couldn’t really think of any
other way to do it. The slack took some finessing too as the cable was
about 2ft long to give me room to grab the slide.

The inboard cups are inside a frame cutout and even working the
loop-knotted (what’s that called?) stiff cable in there took a bit of
doing.  I could barely fit some fingers in there.

There are kits that have these slotted disk things that fit over the
back of the axle cup or spline fittings and screw on to the puller
directly but there was no room to fit that in through the frame
cutouts.

Ultimately it worked out ok even with the effort so I can’t complain (much)

--FT
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On Jun 18, 2024, at 11:46 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
wrote:

I'm sure the difficulty was the wire cable.  It's got just enough 'give' to it
to dampen the effectiveness of the shock from the hammer.  Glad it eventually
worked, though.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Success!!!

2024-06-19 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I assume there's an expensive Mercedes tool meant for this job? And would it 
have been worth it?

On Wed, Jun 19, 2024, at 00:09, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> Yeah I could feel some give on it but I couldn’t really think of any 
> other way to do it. The slack took some finessing too as the cable was 
> about 2ft long to give me room to grab the slide. 
>
> The inboard cups are inside a frame cutout and even working the 
> loop-knotted (what’s that called?) stiff cable in there took a bit of 
> doing.  I could barely fit some fingers in there. 
>
> There are kits that have these slotted disk things that fit over the 
> back of the axle cup or spline fittings and screw on to the puller 
> directly but there was no room to fit that in through the frame 
> cutouts. 
>
> Ultimately it worked out ok even with the effort so I can’t complain (much)
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>> On Jun 18, 2024, at 11:46 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm sure the difficulty was the wire cable.  It's got just enough 'give' to 
>> it
>> to dampen the effectiveness of the shock from the hammer.  Glad it eventually
>> worked, though.
>> 
>> -- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] Success!!!

2024-06-19 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

The cable was my thought on why it was so difficult as well.
Happy that it ultimately worked for you.
If you had to do these often, you would no doubt find a better way.

Randy


On 18/06/2024 11:09 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah I could feel some give on it but I couldn’t really think of any other way 
to do it. The slack took some finessing too as the cable was about 2ft long to 
give me room to grab the slide.

The inboard cups are inside a frame cutout and even working the loop-knotted 
(what’s that called?) stiff cable in there took a bit of doing.  I could barely 
fit some fingers in there.

There are kits that have these slotted disk things that fit over the back of 
the axle cup or spline fittings and screw on to the puller directly but there 
was no room to fit that in through the frame cutouts.

Ultimately it worked out ok even with the effort so I can’t complain (much)

--FT
Sent from iFōn


On Jun 18, 2024, at 11:46 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
wrote:

I'm sure the difficulty was the wire cable.  It's got just enough 'give' to it
to dampen the effectiveness of the shock from the hammer.  Glad it eventually
worked, though.

-- Jim





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Re: [MBZ] Hey, Andrew!

2024-06-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I saw that.  A real shame - their design was really cool.  I also had a
stake in Lordstown Motors and they went bankrupt as well.

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> I see your favorite car’s company is filing for bankruptcy.
>
> Back to scissors, I guess?
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] The pre 2000 ML to be avoided?

2024-06-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I’m really trying to be good and sell a bunch of cars before buying more, so I 
would not even offer them $200 for it I don’t think. 

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> On Jun 19, 2024, at 8:25 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Offer $500 and go from there.  Has a hitch so that is worth something. Poos 
> says they have issues but for cheepcheep could be worth messing with
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 6/19/24 8:02 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] The pre 2000 ML to be avoided?

2024-06-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Offer $500 and go from there.  Has a hitch so that is worth something. 
Poos says they have issues but for cheepcheep could be worth messing with


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[MBZ] The pre 2000 ML to be avoided?

2024-06-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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