Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car
KBB is the last place to go to get a value for one of these cars. IMO Kellys Blue Book is a very reputable source and has been in the vehicle apprasial business for a very long time and I would think that they know a thing or two about the value of vehicles. Whats next, Mercedes doesen't know about cars. The fact that somone payed that amount of money for that car (which is not perfect...has a dent on the roof) shows just how gullable you humans are! =)
Re: [MBZ] Opinions (was: WAY too much for this car)
it is way overprice...read the blue book value...shit, you can even double that and it STILL isn't what it sold for.
Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car
Whatever you say. CAR FOR SALE! 1987 300D Red, Leather Interior, Pioneer AM/FM CD Head unit, disk changer in trunk, Ice cold AC, Runs strong, I have used Mobile 1 since I have owned it. Etc. Original Mercedes Benz Roof Rack Included (just bought it). $9,000.00 Firm
Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car
too bad it's firm. you need to deduct for the pioneer deck, the disk changer, and the fact that you have a #14 head and have overheated it. We were all on the list when that happened. Oh yeah, and my head is cracked (which it isn't) just like you all told me.
Re: [MBZ] Opinions (was: WAY too much for this car)
What it sold for was what it was worth!! Anyone that sold it for less would be a FOOL! Like I said earlier...I think wagon owners tend to 'puff' the value of their cars. You wagon drivers are like users of Macintosh computers! PS all in humor and not trying to start a flame.
[MBZ] NON MBZ - cool hockey fight
http://www.flurl.com/uploaded/Best_Hockey_Fight_8125.html -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car
Gab is one of those 20 somethings who knows everything about the world. See, there you go, with the insults, starting flame wars you fat fuck.
[MBZ] For those interested...
http://www.petroleumrefining.com/schedule.asp -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
[MBZ] Scary
http://money.cnn.com/2005/11/21/news/fortune500/gm_cuts/index.htm?section=cnn_topstories -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
[MBZ] 87 300TD
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Mercedes-300-TDT-turbo-diesel-wagon-3rd-seat_W0QQitemZ4592269746QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
[MBZ] way too much for this car
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/No-Reserve-XMRadio-Leather-Lots-Mechanical-Restored_W0QQitemZ4589060995QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car
10K for an 87 is too much IMO On 11/21/05, George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/21/05 11:40 AM, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like it's in very nice shape (it IS leather). If everything really IS okay $10k is a fair price. The mention of blue smoke when cold (white yes - blue no) is worrisome. The transmission being sealed is good (I had my 300TD sealed at about 130kmi), but Stu Ritter says they are worn out by 150kmi (in Denver). They tend to last more like 250kmi on average in Pittsburgh. Marshall Yes, that is a beautiful car and worth the money if, in addition to what Dr Booth mentions, the AC is operative and the AC evaporators have been replaced. _ GG ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car
I think that those who own a wagon tend to 'puff' up it's value.
Re: [MBZ] Scary
Talk about being the authours of their own misfortune! their mistakes never cost them in the past...just look at the 80's
Re: [MBZ] way too much for this car
I'm shocked at how CHEAP it went, considering what you were getting. Brand new leather on all the seats? That's insane. Actual dyno graphs proving no clogged ALDA plumbing, wow. It's still got R-12 (hooray!), Valentine-1 hardwire (nice bonus), resealed tranny, NEW radiator AC compressor... the list goes on. If I had been in the market for a 87 wagon, I would probably have bid much higher than what it sold for. I think the new owner practically stole it... That car isn't even worth even $4,000. Whoever payed 10K for it got ripped off. Here is how its appraised in the kelly blue book: *$3,615 - in excellent condition with all options (including leather)* http://www.kbb.com/kb/ki.dll/kw.kc.ur?kbb.CO;224801;CO03781632;+p722;Mercedes-Benz;1987%20300TD19;MB;AF;
Re: [MBZ] Scary
Where is that same patriotism now? Probally in the same place voting for George W.
Re: [MBZ] looking for book keeping software, quickbooks
Microsoft Money is pretty cheap. On 11/19/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Need something to keep books with. Am I correct quickbooks is the best? Where is the cheapest place to get it? Ebay? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
[MBZ] Ride height
Did some '87 300D's come with a diffent suspension setups or options? Mine seems to be higher up than others that i've seen. -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] '99 E300
The W124 feels old in comparison. Maybe because it is old.
Re: [MBZ] wtf?
Ok, so who wants to buy this and see whats up I just bought it, i'll let you guys know what it is when I get it. I'll repost with subject as TIP
Re: [MBZ] wtf?
Bought it, and this is the email I got back (i hinted that it was alright if it was a practical joke): Dear Gabriel: Thankyou for the quick payment it's not a pratical joke, I have had this on in the past and it works. It's from an old friend of mine who has had a boat; and a Diesel Chevrolet Silverado and a tractor trailer and swears it works. I will send you the tips tommorow. and will send you a real nice feedback and would expect the same in return! Thankyou very much. You have made a good investment. Robert - Original Message - *Sent:* Tuesday, November 15, 2005 11:46 PM *Subject:* Item #8014904212 - Notification of an Instant Payment Received from mr.plexx
Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars
Who says small cars aren't safe? Just because the car is intact doesen't mean that the passengers survived; on the contrary, the more parts that crumple or fly off the car the more energy that is released, this means less energy transfered to the passengers and less injury. I don't know if the passengers would have survived that, for sure they wouldn't have walked away.
[MBZ] Replacing motor mounts
I am planning on replacing the motor mounts myself. My question is: Is this something I can do myself with a jack and a wrench? Can somone give me a basic walkthrough on how to replace them? Is there anything else I have to unscrew besides the two bolts on each mount? Thanks in advance. -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] For those who like big cars
Yes, i was actually suprised who it held up even though it seemed (from the video) that the crash wasn't excactly straight on...or was it?
[MBZ] '99 E300
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999-Mercedes-Benz-E300-DIESEL-NEW-CAR-TRADE-WARRANTY_W0QQitemZ4590703343QQcategoryZ6335QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
[MBZ] '78 240D
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1978-MBZ-240D-4SPD-CLEAN-CLEAN-NOT-300D-300CD-300TD_W0QQitemZ4590355784QQcategoryZ6329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] '99 E300
If you don't mind a little rust here and there, not a bad car. Yeah, I would never purchase an East Coast/Midwest or beach area car.
Re: [MBZ] '99 E300
I see you're from Southern California...Nice. I'm out in Riverside. They tend to talk alot of trash about Californians around here. You ever do any Diesel get togethers or drives?
Re: [MBZ] For G-Wagon Lovers
wow, those things look cool when set up like that (narrow tires, roof rack), it's a shame to see them sitting on 25 chrome rims in compton.
Re: [MBZ] For G-Wagon Lovers
are the military versions diesel powered?
Re: [MBZ] Cup Holder for1995 E320
Mercedes in all their wisdom forgot one extemely important thing, a coffee cup holder. Anybody have any thoughts as to what options are available for a 1995 E320. Like anything else there will be good products and bad. When driving you should only be doing one other thing: DRIVING.
Re: [MBZ] Cup Holder for1995 E320
Mercedes shortsightedly believed that driving a car required the driver's complete attention, was a full time occupation and to encourage that, didn't include cup holders, TV screens, microwave ovens, or hair curling irons in ANY models until the mid '90s. I strongly agree with Mercedes.
Re: [MBZ] Cup Holder for1995 E320
(one of the last people on planet Earth who does not own a cell phone!) Archaic
Re: [MBZ] Cup Holder for1995 E320
I actually feel like getting rid of mine sometimes.
Re: [MBZ] OT Cartridge starters
Are you sure that those aren't booster rockets you are talking about? A gallon size tin of rocket propellant is alot! On 11/8/05, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About 25 yrs ago, all 8 engines on B-52's were retrofitted with cartridge starters for alert starts. Cartridge is like a gallon paint can full of solid rocket fuel; spins starter at ~ 45k rpm. All 8 engines can be started at same time in a minute by hitting one switch; also makes lots of smoke. Can also start one at a time, of course. In lieu of cartridge, comp. air is used; after one engine is running, air from it can start others. Wilton ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] OT Cartridge starters
Wilton knows what he is talking about. Don't question his knowledge. Oh well excuse me for asking! On 11/8/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabe, Wilton knows what he is talking about. Don't question his knowledge. Starting 8 turbojets takes A LOT. If you read my previous post, I quoted a source that verifies what Wilton said, and elaborates on it. In fact, each aircraft was fitted with 2 cartridge starters. Loren At 11:11 PM 11/8/2005, you wrote: Are you sure that those aren't booster rockets you are talking about? A gallon size tin of rocket propellant is alot! On 11/8/05, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About 25 yrs ago, all 8 engines on B-52's were retrofitted with cartridge starters for alert starts. Cartridge is like a gallon paint can full of solid rocket fuel; spins starter at ~ 45k rpm. All 8 engines can be started at same time in a minute by hitting one switch; also makes lots of smoke. Can also start one at a time, of course. In lieu of cartridge, comp. air is used; after one engine is running, air from it can start others. Wilton ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] OT Cartridge starters
U his wife?
Re: [MBZ] OT starter cartridges
Thats alot of propellant!
Re: [MBZ] W124 Wagon Window Glass
People like that should be hung. On 11/7/05, Tan Qu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seemed someone took the Halloween too far here in Florida. Someone drove around over the Saturday night and shot at peope cars with BB guns and somewhere 95 cars were vandalized. My friend's '87 300TDT wagon was one of the victims. He lost his rear right passenger window glass. Does anyone know if the rear window glass on the wagon is different from the sedans? Any sources that he can start calling around? Tan '87 190Dt '82 240D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] 124 parts needed Deer vs Benz battle to a 27-49 end
I agree. Unfortunately, the system that's in place doesn't make people learn, and very few people have the initiative to learn on their own. Most people will have never experienced the outer edges of their cars' performance envelope until they're forced to in an emergency. Truer words have not been spoken here.
Re: [MBZ] '86 560SEL headlight lens
Do you have one for an '87 124?
Re: [MBZ] Working on the water pump - help needed
lol the neighbourhood 10 year old...you speak of the halfling as it were cattle! lol =) On 10/29/05, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So with the help of the new neighbourhood 10-year-old, I was able to get 1/2 way done my water pump RR. I picked up a new refurb from the dealer today, test drove an R-500, and went home to do the pump. I eventually got all the accessory belts off. That AC unit is a real PITA to loosen up! The water pump came off and coolant spilled everywhere but I was smart enough to put a pan underneath first. Above 4-5 litres came out. PROBLEM: The topmost water pump bolt sheared off when I attempted to loosen it. There's about 3 mm protruding out of the block with the WP removed. I used a torch to heat the remaining bolts which may or may not have helped, but they came out okay. So what do I do to get that sheared bolt out? Or should I just say screw it, leave it, and put the new pump on? Tim 1982 300TD Moby ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Working on the water pump - help needed
Well it's good that you put him to work, though i would have payed him for his time. On 11/3/05, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well he just kind of showed up. He was playing with a soccer ball in the street and it rolled over to my lawn, and he said nice car as he picked it up. A short time later, he ditched his friends and just shadowed me for the rest of the day. It was neat at first, but then he wanted me to watch his impressions of wrestling moves and I was getting tired of it. Once he got under the car though it was easier going. I couldn't help think though that if my car suddenly started rolling (it was in park though), I'd be up sh1t creek if the kid got injured. All was well though, and I finally sent him on his way hours later. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 11/3/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lol the neighbourhood 10 year old...you speak of the halfling as it were cattle! lol =) On 10/29/05, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So with the help of the new neighbourhood 10-year-old, I was able to get 1/2 way done my water pump RR. I picked up a new refurb from the dealer today, test drove an R-500, and went home to do the pump. I eventually got all the accessory belts off. That AC unit is a real PITA to loosen up! The water pump came off and coolant spilled everywhere but I was smart enough to put a pan underneath first. Above 4-5 litres came out. PROBLEM: The topmost water pump bolt sheared off when I attempted to loosen it. There's about 3 mm protruding out of the block with the WP removed. I used a torch to heat the remaining bolts which may or may not have helped, but they came out okay. So what do I do to get that sheared bolt out? Or should I just say screw it, leave it, and put the new pump on? Tim 1982 300TD Moby ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] MB Mailing List map
lets do it.
Re: [MBZ] MB Mailing List map
How do we start? start up the account and post the information on how to add yourself. I would start it but half the people on this list are probally ignoring me. =)
Re: [MBZ] MB Mailing List map
i don't see the advance menu On 11/3/05, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, Go to advanced on frappr menu There is a place to deactivate any frappr map that you have created Take care, Chuck Phoenix On Nov 3, 2005, at 11:26 AM, redghost wrote: OK how did you get rid of your map. I need to get rid of the one I just did On Thursday, November 3, 2005, at 08:52 AM, Mathieu J. Cama wrote: Just set up a map for everyone. Link to it at: http://www.frappr.com/klebmbz Cheers, Mathieu Rick Knoble wrote: Anybody want to map out where we all are? http://www.frappr.com/ Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] MB Mailing List map
Downloaded firefox and it works...internet explorer sucks
Re: [MBZ] MB Mailing List map
not on a mac, maybe it's because im on internet explorer 7
Re: [MBZ] MB Mailing List map
Most of you guys are in that part of the country. -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] In Rust We Trust: Men and Boys and the Wealth of their Toys
Some small part of this might annoy those of the bluer tint, but ignore that part and enjoy the rest of the story. http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/JennniferRobackMorse/2005/10/31/173445.html Beautiful article, one of the best things I have read in a long long time...I can say it almost made my eye tear. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Fast GP's
Ahhh i see, if you refer to city driven i don't consider my car a city car...i do live 60 miles outside of los angeles. BTW, how long does it take you on average during the winter to pre glow your car? On 10/31/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel S. wrote: 10-15 sec? Thats about how long my glow light stays on anyway! When somone mentions fast glow plugs im thinking 1 second or less. Would my glow light stay on longer in freezing weather? The colder it is, the longer it takes to raise the temperature of the prechamber and of the ballpin to a temperature hot enough to ignite the fuel! For the preglow light to work properly, everything MUST be working PERFECTLY. I'll wager that the calibration of the preglow light will NOT be correct in any Mercedes that's more than 10 years old that hasn't had every part of the preglow system replaced. Most glow plugs with 200kmi on them ARE far from perfect (even if they measure 0.6 ohms). Most city driven engines don't have really clean prechambers either and if the glow plugs are carbon encapsulated, it can take a LONG time for the temperature to heat the prechamber (much longer than the light will be on). The so-called FAST plugs (the ones designed for afterglow function that cost about 2-3X what the original plugs cost) can reach ~90% of max temp (1180 deg. C. is the max) in 3-5 seconds while it can take the old style plugs 10-15sec to reach that temperature even when NEW. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] OT: Unionized work environments (Was: Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust?)
Jeff, I 100% agree with you am also self employed and hate unions. On 10/31/05, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the whole problem with this union/non-union argument. The unions were formed because the management rode roughshod over the employees. (Think of Henry Ford and his goon squads beating their workers) Then when you have a strong union to protect you, you get the union attitude, deadbeat slackers who don't give a shit. it's a lose-lose situation in my opinion. (this is one reason I'm very happy to be self employed; more people should try it!) Of the two evil forces, I'd take the union over the management most times. Personally, I hate big corporations and greedy shareholders and I vote for the small guy with my wallet every time. Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] cleaning engine/transmission flaring
What about when your tranny shifts harder when it's cold and mellows out when hot? On 11/1/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rhonald Angelo wrote: Hey Kevin, Marshall, what is transmission flaring and what does it sound and feel like when driving? As the transmission shifts, the engine will race and the car will usually slow as the shift does not complete promptly. This can be slight or it can be massive. This can result from MANY causes. Excess vacuum modulation (vacuum control valve set incorrectly) can cause it (but this is rare). This may be nothing more than the results of the fluid being low and the weather being cold. Then the first few shifts may well flair. Check to be SURE that the transmission fluid is at the upper line after the car has been driven for 15-20 minutes. If in doubt, have an experienced Mercedes mechanic check the symptoms. If this only occurs when the car is cold, drop the car off to the mechanic the night before and have it checked WHEN it's cold. Worn seals in the transmission CAN result in what's often called morning sickness when the shifts are very slow/soft for the first few shifts when the weather gets cold. This is caused by age/wear and can only be cured with a transmission rebuild! If the flair is confined to just the 2-3 up shift, it may be cured with a relatively simple spring replacement that used to be outlined on the MBZ articles page (but isn't now). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] cleaning engine/transmission flaring
Once again, thanks. On 11/1/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel S. wrote: What about when your tranny shifts harder when it's cold and mellows out when hot? If the fluids level is just a little low, that can cause what you describe and every Mercedes transmission manufactured before about the mid '80s did that to a greater or lessor degree. My '67 200D used to snap my neck on the first few shifts of the day when it was cold unless I was VERY careful. Finally in the mid '80s they got it right. The early '80s transmissions CAN be modified, but it's usually not worth the cost and labor unless you are rebuilding the transmission. The Mercedes rebuilds, used to come with all the latest updates (and MOST aftermarket rebuilds did not). If EVERYTHING is adjusted properly (put gauges on the transmission and set the pressures, adjust the vacuum modulator, set the shift linkage so the up and down shift speeds are correct and the vacuum from the vacuum control valve varies from high at idle to none at full pedal) then changing the modulator to one of the improved ones MAY be worthwhile. Last time I checked the revised modulator was well over $100 and I expect it's gone up since then. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Mufflers
Dont forget the bi plane wing! On 11/1/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to get a chrome coffee can to put on the end of the tailpipe and leave the sound as it is. Add an R sticker or two and you will be mucho cool and the car will be much faster and the women will swoon over you. --R J.B. Hebert wrote: I just replaced the exhaust system on my '95 E300D. I purchased a new replacement rear muffler, and intended to keep the cat and bypass the resonator with a custom pipe. Once the old system was dropped (original system with 199,000 miles on it - repaired several times by previous owner), it became evident that the cat was not easily repairable. I couldn't afford to shell out the $900 or so (street price) for a replacement cat, so I made up a custom Y pipe and tied it into the new rear muffler. With almost 10' of straight pipe before the muffler, it is EASY to understand the purpose of a resonator. I have seen a marked improvement in performance, especially at the upper RPMs, but I now get the dreaded angry vacuum cleaner sound under full throttle. I am planning on installing an inexpensive glass pack midway on the pipe to resolve this. All in all, I am very happy with the results. If anyone is interested, I will post pics at www.wrxtra.com/Misc/Automotive/Mercedes/exhausthttp://www.wrxtra.com/Misc/Automotive/Mercedes/exhaustsometime today. And, if anyone wants to know, this is of course a racing diesel that is off-road only, so I do not need the cat anymore... J.B. Hebert -- Current Vehicles: '76 Ford Bronco '78 Volvo 262C Bertone V8 '80 Alpina B7 Turbo Coupe '82 Mercedes 300CD (Deceased) '93 GMC Sierra 2500 '95 Mercedes E300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Sony digi cameras
I'm typing this on a Win95 box. Does the box still have the safety seal attached? (joke)
[MBZ] 400 laptop!
http://news.com.com/Will+Wal-Mart+sell+398+notebooks%2C+desktops/2100-1041_3-5924640.html?tag=xtra -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
[MBZ] Extra Fuel Tank?
Found this on Ebay...did some mercedes really come with an Aux. fuel tank, or does this guy just including a jerry can in the trunk? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4586046329ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1 P.S. I think those rims looks cheesy. -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] OT: Unionized work environments (Was: Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust?)
The guy I bought my car from also replaced his Mercedes with a Lexus saying that the seats offered better lumbar support for his wife with a bad back. I've driven a brand new Lexus i think GS 300 V6 and throught it drove like all Japanese cars...crappy engine sounds and controlls that feel like they're connected via rubber band. Other than that im sure it's a fine reliable car. On 10/31/05, Rob Vonderhaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim, With all due respect, your comment kinda grated on me: Maybe you could help us understand how Chrysler's training/motivation programs equate to a need for unionized labor? In fact, I'd argue to the contrary: While it's important for employers like Chrysler to recognize the value of motivated employees, many non-unionized firms can train and motivate even better because they have a lot more flexibility in how they manage their employees. For example, most of the grocery chains in the D.C. area are unionized. But one chain (Wegmans) is not -- and the visible difference in employee attitude and service is astounding. A friend that left a union chain to work at Wegmans confirms that they treat their employees well, and Wegmans appears to have no trouble attracting better help in direct competition with the unionized firms. Rob - Original Message - From: TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finally! Someone who understands that there IS a place for unionized work environments in the 21st century! On 10/31/05, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The company has an excellent training / motivation program and they expect nothing less from their work force. They also involve their hourly work force in ongoing Quality improvement programs. [SNIP] Chrysler discovered during their rebuilding period that a motivated work force turns out a Quality product. This is one reason that Chrysler is doing well and Ford GM are loosing market share. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
[MBZ] This regular diesel gains speed faster than some turbo-diesels do! Just amazing!
LOL... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4585722307ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1 -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices coming down
2.99 here in Southern California. On 10/31/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dropped twenty-five cents this morning here. On 10/31/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look for diesel prices to keep coming down over the next few weeks. Heating oil degree days are forecasted at 87,some 41 below normal. Above normal temperatures for the entire eastern 2/3rds of the country for the next 8-14 day period. (from noaa) dan elliott 82 300d-t 87kmi Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices coming down
2 Questions: 1. In the past 50 or more years have you older guys ever seen the price of fuel actually go down? 2. Any of you guys out in Southern California and if yes, are there any diesel get togethers/drives in the area? I've heard of a porsche Southern Cali to Carmel drive but what about diesel? On 10/31/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just filled up at 2.49. Which is still at least $1 a gallon too high. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look for diesel prices to keep coming down over the next few weeks. Heating oil degree days are forecasted at 87,some 41 below normal. Above normal temperatures for the entire eastern 2/3rds of the country for the next 8-14 day period. (from noaa) dan elliott 82 300d-t 87kmi Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices coming down
*Product * *Unit Cost * *Price per Gallon * Lipton Ice Tea $1.19/16 oz $9.52 per gallon Ocean Spray $1.25/16 oz $10.00 per gallon Gatorade $1.59 /20 oz $10.17 per gallon Diet Snapple (preferably Peach) $1.29/16 oz $10.32 per gallon Evian water $1.49 /9 oz $21.19 per gallon Whiteout $1.39 /7 oz $25.42 per gallon Brake Fluid $3.15/12 oz $33.60 per gallon Scope $0.99/1.5 oz $84.48 per gallon Vick's Nyquil $8.35/6 oz $178.13 per gallon Pepto Bismol $3.85/4 oz $123.20 per gallon On 10/31/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 12:02:16PM -0800, Gabriel S. wrote: 2.99 here in Southern California. 2.99 in walnut creek, 2.73 last night in lathrop at joe's travel center (affectionately referred to as joe's go juice) K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Fast GP's
10-15 sec? Thats about how long my glow light stays on anyway! When somone mentions fast glow plugs im thinking 1 second or less. Would my glow light stay on longer in freezing weather? On 10/31/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TimothyPilgrim wrote: How's a fast glow plug different, in use? It gets hotter faster! With the original series plugs, almost half of the heat generated is dissipated in resistance wires OUTSIDE the engine. When the plugs are changed to parallel plugs, all of the heat generated is INSIDE the engine - so there is more heat to ignite the fuel sooner. The fast plugs reach 1000 deg in 10-15 sec while it will take ~30 sec. for loop plugs to reach that temperature. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?
my dipstick only has a low and high mark...i've seen nothing that says add. On 10/27/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel S. wrote: Marshall, Could you explain how over filling with oil is bad for the enigne (dont get me wrong, i believe it, i just don't see how it could be bad)? There are MANY reasons why overfilling is bad. The MAX mark is just that - NOT the optimal level. 1: When overfilled, additional oil is burned and ejected. This results in additional smoke and carbon accumulation in the engine (and oil costs increase) and excess oil is flung about. Even at only the MAX mark, engine oil consumption at highway speeds on MOST all of the Mercedes engines I've ever owned was double or triple what it is when the oil level is at the mid point or lower. 2. Additional oil can enter the combustion chamber unmetered and this CAN in extreme cases result in engine runaway and destruction (usually the engine must be overfilled by at least several qt for this to happen). 3. And my favorite argument ;-). Mercedes points out that optimal oil level is midway between the ADD and the MAX mark. If we make the assumption that oil consumption is linear (not true, but sufficiently true for this simplistic example) the sump is filled to the MAX mark and spends ~33% of the time there, 33% of the time at the midway point and 33% of the time at the ADD mark, the oil level is only at the mid (optimal) point 1/3rd of the time. If on the other hand the oil is filled to 1/3rd above the mid point and allowed to drop to the ADD mark, the oil will be at the optimal level half the time rather than 1/3rd of the time. That's certainly a measurable improvement! Just follow Mercedes recommendations that the oil level must NEVER exceed the MAX mark (I fill my cars to half way between ADD and MAX)., Never add oil until the oil level reaches the ADD mark. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Start gear
i swear i counted the gear shifts before and came up third but i will count again just to make sure. On 10/27/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel S. wrote: Does the 87 300d start in second gear? I read somewere that 124 (not sure if all) start in 2nd gear. If yes, how can i defeat this (besides flooring it every time)? MOST US delivered 124s start in 2nd. MOST 124s are gasoline powered. None of the 124 diesels start in second! If yours starts in second, then the linkage is probably worn and needs to be adjusted. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Roadside assistance in Stlouis
there were a few contributing factors to my running out of fuel, not all of which were my fault If you run out of fuel on the side of the road I feel that it is completely your fault and once again, you should be fined for being on the side of the road due to that. You should be fined on an hourly basis for creating *UNNECESSARY LOSS* because of your poor judgement. There is *absolutely no* reason for running out of fuel other than negligence and stupidity on the drivers side. *NONE*. Imagine airplane pilots just running out of fuel due to things ...no all of which were my fault *MORON*. On top of that he expects Mercedes to bail him out of this situation for *FREE?* This guy needs to wake up and smell the fresh coffee, if Mercedes is willing to help out, than fine, but if they don't, who the hell is he complaining? There are no free rides! Both the tow company and Mercedes Benz are in the business to make money. What an F'ing loser! I don't know where he's from, but around here if you want a service, you have to pay for it, that's what AAA is for, you pay and they *have to* tow. I suspect this is the type of person who goes to McDonald's and takes back food because it isn't 3 minutes fresh or is on welfare. I have to admit, I myself ran out of gas once but I do acknowledge that it was 100% my fault and would have never expected for someone to bail me out of it for free or complain about someone who didn't do it for free. On 10/28/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this isn't going to become common. A mercedesshop member ran out of diesel in St Louis. He called MBZ roadside assistance. The local dealer had contracted with a local towing company to provide the service, apparently at the driver's expense. The towing service refused to bring fuel, even after the driver demanded to talk to a manager. They would, however, be willing to tow him to a fuel station for $85. What part of free didn't they understand? http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php3?t=135491 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] First gear start
I've counted the gears before and there seems to be one missing...I'll count again just to make sure. On 10/27/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MOST US delivered 124s start in 2nd. MOST 124s are gasoline powered. None of the 124 diesels start in second! If yours starts in second, then the linkage is probably worn and needs to be adjusted. Which seems to claim that more 124's were built from '86 to '90 than later since first gear start began in 1991 in the 300E. BTW, this is first hand knowledge. Despite having posted this little factoid more times than I can count. RLE/Seattle Not sure what your point is?? Are you asking something or telling us something? Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] HCCI and 'what is a diesel
not my car...pedal to the metal. On 10/26/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dave walton wrote: Regardless of how the fuel is ignited, diesel contains roughly 30% more BTU's than gasoline. Any moderately efficient engine will give more MPG's on diesel. I doubt that a compression ignition engine run on gasoline will be 30% more efficient than current technology using a spark plug. I'm not so sure. The reduction in pumping losses due to eliminating the throttle plate would help a lot, especially at partial-throttle operation, which is where car engines spend most of their time. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale
Like I said, here it is once again: Of course there are exceptions, there are exceptions to everything, but that is generally the rule. All those women are definately on that list...and the list goes on! Check out this link my friend: http://www.forbes.com/lists/2005/07/28/lists-powerfulwomen-media-05powom_cz_sh_0728media.html go down to the Check out the most powerful women in media. On 10/26/05, Ron Dwelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michigan's governor isn't particularly ugly. In fact... On Oct 26, 2005, at 9:23 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Gabriel S. wrote: An opinion of mine: Successfull women who support themself are ususally the ugly ones. The reason is because they have to, no man will support them. Are Barbara Boxer, Diane Fineswine, senator Clinton, and Janet Reno on that list? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300TDT (W124) Climate Control Problems
Mine does this too, you have to buy the whole climate control unit. On 10/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The climate control system in my 1987 300TDT seems to be operating improperly since I cannot get heated air out of the footwell flaps. When the system goes into heat mode (temp dial between 22 and 18, EC button pressed, fan on auto, outside air at 55 degrees F)), the air seems to only come out of the defrost vents and the lateral vents on the ends of the dash. The climate control (ACC) seems to switch between full heat out the defroster and lateral vents and cool air from the center and lateral vents to try and keep the interior temp at the right temp. The ACC doesn't seem want to use a medium fan setting with only warm air for some reason. Placing the temperature dial at max with the solid down arrow and outline up arrow button pressed (with or without EC marking), and the fan button at auto seems to make no difference, the air still comes out of the defrost and lateral vents. Additional info: The fan operates properly at min, max, and auto when pressing each of the buttons. Occasionally when I turn the climate control on, I can hear a faint clicking sound from behind the glove box area and nothing happens initially until after 5 or 10 seconds. There are also occasions when I press the off button, and the climate control system runs for about 15 seconds, and then it shuts off. The only time I am able to get air out of the footwell vents is when I press the button with the solid up and down arrows. I have tested all of the vacuum pods and they all hold 15 in Hg of vaccum except the center vent pod. I have also swapped the hoses for center vent pod and the air diverter flap pod to get air around the bad center vent pod temporarily. The air sample fan is working properly since it seems to hold a small 1 cm square of paper at it's intake point on the dome light. I have the MBZ Climate Control Service Manual, and I have run the functional tests and based on the results the manual says to run the electrical component test which seems to require a special test instrument/breakout box that cost 400 dollars plus. Does anyone have any ideas on what component might be bad? At this point it looks like it might be the control unit, but I need to run more tests. Any thoughts and ideas are welcome. Thanks in advance. -Steve ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Everyone should write a happy birthday note
I wrote one...whoever that is. On 10/28/05, George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Miss B today at bkahn1028_at_aol_dot_com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Roadside assistance in Stlouis
That is the advantage of driving an inexpensive cheap car! On 10/28/05, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surprisingly we agree on this one, at least in that theres no excuse (most of the time) for running out of fuel. That said mistakes are made, I for one try and take it easy on people who make mistakes so that hopefully they'll take it easy on me when I make mine. That said I think that anybody caught driving overly agressively like the guy who tried to run me off the road this morning just for merging while he was trying to go 80mph in the right hand lane of a 3 lane highway where the center lane is going 70mph should lose his license for a year. People need to learn that just because they're driving a fast car doesn't mean that they have any more right to the road than anyone else. I was merging just fine and this jackass pulls up INTO my spot and tries to push me off the road. I looked at his expensive Lexus and my 240D with the clearcoat peeling off, held my line and said Go for it, I dare you. He backed off. -Curt Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:16:00 -0700 From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Roadside assistance in Stlouis To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 there were a few contributing factors to my running out of fuel, not all of which were my fault If you run out of fuel on the side of the road I feel that it is completely your fault - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] OT: etiquette (was Re: Roadside assistance in Stlouis)
What Janet Reno discussion? I've never said anything about Janet Reno, on the contrary, I find her a very attractive young woman* On 10/28/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This thread (and the one before it that involved Janet Reno having to be successful and listing the reasons why) are really something else. I'm not sure which one was better. The Janet Reno one started with you posting that you KNEW you were going to cause an uprising. If you knew it was going to torque people off, then why bother posting it? Then this one, you start asking how you offended people, then when they explain it, cry me a river? I really don't get it. There are those that will just say to hit the delete button. While this is a luxury for people that receive messages one at a time, this isn't exactly an option for people on digest. And this doesn't need to deteriorate into a discussion of how gmail is the second coming or anything either - it's silly and selfish to think that someone should change their mail client to filter out messages that they shouldn't have to read. And before this turns into a freedom of speech discussion, the supreme court has held that freedom of speech does not cover offensive or profane language. There is a lot of expertise on this list. The last thing that you want is for you to have a reputation on this list that causes people with answers to your questions to either delete your message or ignore your message in the digest because they don't want to read another missive on traffic, breakdowns, women, or what have you. The rest of us on this list don't want OUR message getting ignored by the people with answers to OUR questions because the first message on a page/in a digest/whatever was a missive from you that made them think they had better things to do than read list mail anyways. Let's get back to being civil and talking about our cars before Kaleb gets home and unsubscribes everyone who participated with this thread because he's tired of spending HIS time and money supporting a bunch of whiners. Apologies to those on digest who had to put up with MY rant. K On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 01:42:48PM -0700, Gabriel S. wrote: ohhh boo hooo cry me a river. On 10/28/05, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel S. wrote: How did I offend YOU Craig? I don't think it's how you offend an individual, but how you offend a large portion of the list. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Hellup!
I like how you put in the collectively =) Sounds like you may have a busted head. On 10/28/05, frederick w moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, All. I think my 87 190Dt has a problem and you lot are (collectively) much smarter than I am. Symptoms:- Small thin ring of oil (?) in the reservoir, coupled with a very slow loss of coolant. There are no external coolant leaks visible. I changed the M1 from 15w to 5w (winter's coming) and replaced the front exhaust pipe and a few days later the car would start on 4 cyl. and then run on 5 after about 20 seconds attended by a small cloud of BLUE smoke. The car when warm runs very well, a couple of weeks ago it went in excess of 161Kph (until I chickened out) and still will, I'm sure. Q. Head gasket? (Please don't say cracked head, besides mine, that is.) ?? TIA Fred Moir Dieselitis Horribilis 190D 2.2 '84 190Dt 2.5 '87 300TD '85 190E Organ Donor ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Roadside assistance in Stlouis
Curt, How long have you been running your WVO/Diesel Mix (or is it Diesel/WVO Mix)? On 10/28/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have run out of fuel on my '83 300SD. I discovered (the hard way) that my reserve light is burnt out and the fuel gauge was showing 1/4 tank. Is this my mistake or a mechanical failure? Here at work, if our driver runs out of fuel, we deduct the roadservice labor from their check, UNLESS they say my fuel gauge shows 1/2 tank, but I think I'm out of fuel or something similar. Mechanical failures causing out of fuel are paid for from our maintenance budget. -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 28, 2005 2:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Roadside assistance in Stlouis Surprisingly we agree on this one, at least in that theres no excuse (most of the time) for running out of fuel. That said mistakes are made, I for one try and take it easy on people who make mistakes so that hopefully they'll take it easy on me when I make mine. That said I think that anybody caught driving overly agressively like the guy who tried to run me off the road this morning just for merging while he was trying to go 80mph in the right hand lane of a 3 lane highway where the center lane is going 70mph should lose his license for a year. People need to learn that just because they're driving a fast car doesn't mean that they have any more right to the road than anyone else. I was merging just fine and this jackass pulls up INTO my spot and tries to push me off the road. I looked at his expensive Lexus and my 240D with the clearcoat peeling off, held my line and said Go for it, I dare you. He backed off. -Curt Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] center vents - no heat
any ideas on why they would design it that way? Does that apply for 124? On 10/28/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wondering why no heat comes out of my 2 center heater ports ? Any insight would be appreciated. That's a FEATURE - not a flaw. Only air at outside temps or cooled air are supposed to come out of the center dash vents! It was designed that way! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale
An opinion of mine: Successfull women who support themself are ususally the ugly ones. The reason is because they have to, no man will support them. Meanwhile the hot ones don't need to be successfull because they can find a successfull man to support and pay thier bills. I know it sounds far fetched but it's true, and yes, of course there are rare exceptions, but that, generally is the rule. Don't believe me? Do a search on Forbes and look at Americans top most successful women. Im gonna get grilled for this one. =x On 10/26/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/ 20051026/SEX26/TPScience/ Why you may not want a married woman with an education. Gabe may be onto something here On Wednesday, October 26, 2005, at 10:54 AM, Richard Smith wrote: Most of us call it safe sex! On 10/25/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course I'm not married, why would I want to be married, why would any man want to be married? On 10/25/05, Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not married, arre you Gabriel? Nuf said. Actually, it makes sense if you look at what the insurance company is raping me for on a car that just sits around. Gary choosing his battles carefully On 10/25/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow...thats pretty sad. How could your wife make you get rid of something that you bought and worked for? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Richard 1987 300D 178k with miles and miles to go!!! Midwest City, Oklahoma ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?
I think that synthetic oil making your car leak is an old wise tale that isn't so wise. On 10/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have heard and had personal experience when changing over to MOBIL1 in an engine that was origionally run on dino that after a while it leaks. There is something missing in the oil to swell the gaskets, or something like that. Not that I don't swear by MOBIL 1, My engines seem to last forever on the stuff and I love it. I wish I could get it to stop leaking though. Anybody else hear of this? George Mason Marshall Booth wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: Use Delvac 1 or Truck and SUV Mobil 1 -- the same thing, but Delvac comes in gallon containers. Mobil 1 Truck SUV is sold in 5 qt containers at SOME Wal-Marts for much less than Delvac in in one gallon jugs. You should have no issues at all, but I would get an extra oil filter and change it 1000 miles after putting the Mobil 1 in -- a huge amount of sludge will come loose if it's been run on dino oil, and this will clog the filter pretty fast. While I agree that Mobil 1 will dissolve much/most sludge, - the operative word is DISSOLVE - and my opinion is that the need to change the oil/filter before the factory suggested interval would rarely be necessary. I've change over many high mileage diesel engines to M-1 and there was NEVER any evidence of anything close to filter occlusion. Still, the filter change will certainly hurt NOTHING. Marshall ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story
Is leaving your diesel idling really all that bad? I suspect it isn't. I'll tell you this much, my boat has a Straight 6 Volvo Diesel and I idle that thing all day long when trolling for fish and still no ill effects. I don't know what it is about my car, but even though she lights up on the first crank I still find it harder to start than a gasser, who knows, maybe its the effort required to turn the key on a Benz thats harder, all I can say is that I tend to leave her running when possible. On 10/26/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel S. wrote: Poor truckers. I leave my car idling as much as possible just because turning over a diesel seems harder than a gasser. I don't know...I think a diesel is actually *easier* to start than a gasser once it's warmed up. It's only cold starts that are tough. The most extreme examples of this are the normally-aspirated IDI VW diesels, which, when fully warmed up, will consistently fire on the first compression stroke, even with no glow cycle. I once push-started a friend's VW Dasher by hand after his starter failed, and we got it going by popping the clutch in reverse after I'd rolled it about five feet to build up momentum. Piece of cake. Idling for long periods is hard on diesels because it cokes up the injectors. The heat problem in sleeper cabs was actually solved long ago, though it requires some capital investment -- Stewart-Warner and several other companies make little diesel-fired furnaces for cab heat. Some of them can even preheat the coolant for cold starts. A/C in hot weather is a tougher problem, of course. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Mooing and fender slots
Wow! See that's exactly the sound that's coming from my engine and has gotten louder lately. Why? Marshall said I could have a broken exhaust manifold but I know that choo choo train sound of a broken manifold when i hear it (i owned a Nissan) =( On 10/26/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's there to reduce or eliminate intake mooing which was one of the things I objected to in my 300D. OK, this is crying for an explanation Mooing: Remember the noise heard when you remove the air cleaner housing from an American V-8 and you open the throttle wide? Moo. Jeez. It's an intake drone which my '78 300D produced from the air intake just behind the hood edge. I reduced it by rerouting the intake a bit, installing a GM diesel intake muffler (this would produce a 1500 word treatise by VanCleef) and moving the intake forward a bit to line up with the hood edge. The car was more peaceful at freeway speeds after this mod. Moving the intake completely outside the engine compartment in the 124 was even better. RLE/ Seattle/'01 C320 with no intake noise at all ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story
Ahhh ic...I do Italian Tuneups on a daily basis though...diesel purge? Gonna have to pick me up a bottle of that. On 10/27/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is bad. It lowers your fuel economy. It causes build up of carbon on your injectors, prechambers, and in the piston chambers. This is bad and requires Diesel Purge (purchased from Rusty) and many italian tuneups to correct the problem. Allowing the carbon build up to continue with out correcting the cause and cleaning it out can lead to the death of your engine. It is bad. Luther -Original Message- From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 27, 2005 10:33 AM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story Is leaving your diesel idling really all that bad? I suspect it isn't. I'll tell you this much, my boat has a Straight 6 Volvo Diesel and I idle that thing all day long when trolling for fish and still no ill effects. I don't know what it is about my car, but even though she lights up on the first crank I still find it harder to start than a gasser, who knows, maybe its the effort required to turn the key on a Benz thats harder, all I can say is that I tend to leave her running when possible. Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix) '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
[MBZ] Is this bad for your engine?
http://dieselgiant.com/thermostatreplacementandmodif.htm -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale
True...with that much money i would be me a Bonanza or a Grumman Cougar. On 10/27/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel S. wrote: think about it like this: if you were seriously rolling in it 200k on a car would be a drop in the bucket. You're assuming there are $200k cars out there that I'm interested in. If I were going to spend $200k, it'd be on an airplane. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Is this bad for your engine?
wow Bruce, I see you are a family of benz owners. On 10/27/05, B Dike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It may not be quite as bad as it looks. It will certainly lengthen the time required to come up to operating temp, which will increase engine wear; the question is how much. On the other hand, it may well reduce, or eliminate, as he claims, overtemp episodes by increasing the flow rate through the thermostat apparatus when the bypass valve is closed. If the temperature stabilization is as good as stated, then its usefulness would depend on how much longer it takes to reach operating temp. If it is only a extra minute or two then it is worth a try. If it takes much longer than that, then I would be concerned about wear issues. The delay effect may not be as bad as it might seem because flow resistance laws dictate that, even with the holes, most of the coolant will still circulate through the bypass when cold instead of the radiator. Bruce --- Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://dieselgiant.com/thermostatreplacementandmodif.htm -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=- Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 236kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 194kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Faerie Tales was Sad Death
Female president=Nukes flying about once a month. On 10/27/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sort of like Commander in Chief which hilary clintoon is deep in supporting with former white house staffers. Poor sap woman president goes for the soft and we can all work together solutions. Evil republicans and hardliners are out to destroy amerika. Interesting to watch, but keep reminding myself, pure fiction and fairy tales. Within hours any woman president would have to grow some gonads On Thursday, October 27, 2005, at 03:24 AM, TimothyPilgrim wrote: That's right. It IS fiction, and as long we the reader understands that, all is good and well. I find his books riveting, but that doesn't mean I believe them to the T. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/26/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He is a good writer of FICTION. If you are somebody on the inside, you can drive trucks through the holes in his novels. Still a fun read. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?
Marshall, Could you explain how over filling with oil is bad for the enigne (dont get me wrong, i believe it, i just don't see how it could be bad)? On 10/27/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have heard and had personal experience when changing over to MOBIL1 in an engine that was origionally run on dino that after a while it leaks. There is something missing in the oil to swell the gaskets, or something like that. Not that I don't swear by MOBIL 1, My engines seem to last forever on the stuff and I love it. I wish I could get it to stop leaking though. Anybody else hear of this? Mobil 1 HAS in it an additive that will stop modest leaks (that were caused by conventional oil swelling the original seals and wear reducing the material). Most owners that have small leaks and switch to M-1 find that after several changes, the leaks seal or are at least diminished. If you have holes that are plugged by sludge or combustion residue, the M-1 will dissolve them and the leak MAY commence, but only because the ALREADY damaged or improperly sealed engine has been cleaned. An engine that's not maintained or one that's abused (and overfilling with oil or frequently topping up the oil BEFORE it reaches the ADD mark IS abuse) will start to leak no matter what oil is in it. If it started leaking after you changed to M-1, who's to say it wouldn't have started leaking had you NOT changed - it wasn't just time to start leaking? WHERE is it leaking? The first step it to identify the precise location and cause of the leak. Once you know where and why the leak you repair it! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
[MBZ] Start gear
Does the 87 300d start in second gear? I read somewere that 124 (not sure if all) start in 2nd gear. If yes, how can i defeat this (besides flooring it every time)? -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] 16v auction, oy!
But they would sure be happy here in southern Callifornia. About how much it cost to rebuild her engine? On 10/25/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you look at those wheels? They wouldn't last a day among Michigan potholes, or even a railroad crossing. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4584225280 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices are making me angry
I imagine it's limited by revs only? On 10/25/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 300SD top speed is 102mph, I believe...you must be talking of the CD, no? Top speed on the 87 300TD is 123mph and I EASILY hit 100 the other day. The SD was screaming across Texas and I only got to 99mph b4 a big truck wouldn't move out of the way. Chris --- Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what kind of Benz you drive, but mine is usually passing the gass guzzlin SUV's. It's most happy at speeds approaching and exceeding 100mph. YMMV. Luther On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:32:52 -0500, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, but the benz goes slower and you wont miss the scenery! -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices are making me angry
I am not a wreckless driver, i prefer to call myself a spirited driver. On 10/25/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so you are a wreckless driver? Luther Gulseth wrote: I don't know what kind of Benz you drive, but mine is usually passing the gass guzzlin SUV's. It's most happy at speeds approaching and exceeding 100mph. YMMV. Luther On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 17:32:52 -0500, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, but the benz goes slower and you wont miss the scenery! -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Insight needed
The reason i asked that question was because i thougth there might have been a metal warping issue that a new O ring wouldn't remedy. On 10/25/05, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At some time fairly close to Tue, 25 Oct 2005 12:04:08 -0700, rumor has it that Gabriel wrote: My question is: Why wasn't the O ring just replaced instead of trying to fix it really quick...It can't be that expensive for an O right Err, well In my experience: If I find a repair on one of my cars that's done _right_ - I wonder why!! There seems to be no lack of stupitidy when it comes to how other folks fix cars. Oh, list members are an exception - of course! *smile* Philip, picky mechanic ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
just ask it any way you like...they don't answer your questions unless you have a signature which shows your car model and year. On 10/25/05, Jerry Herrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What specific steps do I take to respond to a question, or to ask a question in this venue? Thanks, Jerry ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Sad Death
what novels of his, besides the davinci codes, did you read? On 10/25/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, darn! After reading a couple of novels by Dan Brown, I was rather intrigued by the supposed knights of the templar/rose (sp?) and the Masons - now you've gone and ruined it for me! On 10/25/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have not replied to this thread because it seems to have nothing to do with MB. But Now I must speak. Lets not drag the Masons into a discussion where they don't belong. I am a Mason and have been one for 20 years. When I was a young man (14) I fell and broke my hip. I was sent to the Shriners Hospitals for crippled children (All Shriners are Masons) they took care of me and would not except a penny in return. I have seen no evidence of devil worship or cult like issues in them at all ever. (And I have taken the time to really look for it) If I don't pay my dues ($50) I get suspended from the lodge, I see no cults having that policy. George Washington and most of the sons of liberty were Masons as well as 13 signers of the declaration of independence. It was good enough from George Washington and I am pretty sure he would not join a cult. If a cult helps poor crippled kids walk for no charge,provide defibulators to our local schools, Sponsor the local DARE program, Help locate missing children with their child ID program, take care of widows and orphans, and dole out 80 million a year to charity in PA alone, Never asking for an ounce of credit, then I will sign up for it any day. I have been a business owner and A mason for a long time. Some businesses failed others did better, but I don't think I can park the failure of my business at the door of the Masons. George T. Mason, Past Master St. Johns Lodge #1 FAM NJ J. Simpson Africa Lodge #628 FAM PA -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Terminal population
Some how I doubut they have that problem in Utah or Mexico. On 10/25/05, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 10:17:39 -0500 Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was the theory of Thomas Malthus. The industrial revolution disrupted his theory as I remember from my studies (Specifically, mechanized farming allowed more food to be grown). That is the problem with any equation that we develop to determine population load, we cannot foresee what changes future technology will have on the capacity of the Earth to sustain a population. http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~stephan/malthus/malthus.0.html Yes, how wrong Malthus had it! In addition, we humans are limiting our population ourselves without having to rely on any Malthusian causes. The world population will peak out about mid-century and then drop because societies are not reproducing at replacement rate. This is already a big problem in Germany and Italy. Craig ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale David M. Barked:
Hey Dave M. why don't you just stop your barking already? I really don't feel like getting into it with you. /\ /\ / \---._ / / ` `\ \ \ `'@)@) /` ~ ~._ / `() / \ (` ,_.:. / / ~ `\ (vVV / |`\_ `^^^/ ___/|_ `---' (_Dave M.) _ _/~ | `(_) _/~ \ _/~ | _/~ | _/~ | _/~ ~. | _/~ \ /\ __/~ /`\ `|| _/~ ~~-._ /~ \ || /~ ~./~' \ |) / ~. \ )| / : | || | : | || | .' | || __.-` __.'--. | |`---. .-~ ___. __.--~`--. | `---.))) `---~~ `-...--.) \_) On 10/25/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if someone did call you gay, why would that offend you? I mean, being gay is only immoral from a religious standpoint anyway... assuming you're not taking it with the old-school definition of showing or characterized by cheerfulness and lighthearted excitement; merry. -- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:31:54 -0700 From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale Put it this way...Women are like cars; the less miles they have on 'em the better. I would rather drive a fresh new car with low miles and new car scent, theres nothing like a new car, when that car starts to squeek and rattle you simply trade her up. IMO nobody drives a used car by choice...myself, if I could easily afford it, I would be driving a brand spankin new diesel benz (coming in '06?) or AMG. P.S. It's just my opinion and my response was all in humor and not ment to upset anyone to the point of calling me gay, which probally reflects your own chimera. On 10/25/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't you tell us how you really feel, Gabe. (Or is it Gayb?) O_o -- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:45:20 -0700 From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale Adultery is only immoral from a religious standpoint. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale
Sorry, i'll try to stop. On 10/26/05, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a few questions for Gabriel. Gabriel.What is it about you that makes you SUCH AN ASS to everyone on this board? I can understand the occasional difference of opinion but you are CONSTANTLY just trying to piss people off. 2nd question..With your hatefull attitude what use are you(besides someone to laugh at) to this group? Mike - Original Message - From: Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale And if someone did call you gay, why would that offend you? I mean, being gay is only immoral from a religious standpoint anyway... assuming you're not taking it with the old-school definition of showing or characterized by cheerfulness and lighthearted excitement; merry. -- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:31:54 -0700 From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale Put it this way...Women are like cars; the less miles they have on 'em the better. I would rather drive a fresh new car with low miles and new car scent, theres nothing like a new car, when that car starts to squeek and rattle you simply trade her up. IMO nobody drives a used car by choice...myself, if I could easily afford it, I would be driving a brand spankin new diesel benz (coming in '06?) or AMG. P.S. It's just my opinion and my response was all in humor and not ment to upset anyone to the point of calling me gay, which probally reflects your own chimera. On 10/25/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't you tell us how you really feel, Gabe. (Or is it Gayb?) O_o -- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:45:20 -0700 From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale Adultery is only immoral from a religious standpoint. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale
David M. stop your barking already, I really don't feel like getting into it with you anymore. /\ /\ / \---._ / / ` `\ \ \ `'@)@) /` ~ ~._ / `() / \ (` ,_.:. / / ~ `\ (vVV / |`\_ `^^^/ ___/|_ `---' (_David M.) _ _/~ | `(_) _/~ \ _/~ | _/~ | _/~ | _/~ ~. | _/~ \ /\ __/~ /`\ `|| _/~ ~~-._ /~ \ || /~ ~./~' \ |) / ~. \ )| / : | || | : | || | .' | || __.-` __.'--. | |`---. .-~ ___. __.--~`--. | `---.))) `---~~ `-...--.) \_) On 10/25/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if someone did call you gay, why would that offend you? I mean, being gay is only immoral from a religious standpoint anyway... assuming you're not taking it with the old-school definition of showing or characterized by cheerfulness and lighthearted excitement; merry. -- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:31:54 -0700 From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale Put it this way...Women are like cars; the less miles they have on 'em the better. I would rather drive a fresh new car with low miles and new car scent, theres nothing like a new car, when that car starts to squeek and rattle you simply trade her up. IMO nobody drives a used car by choice...myself, if I could easily afford it, I would be driving a brand spankin new diesel benz (coming in '06?) or AMG. P.S. It's just my opinion and my response was all in humor and not ment to upset anyone to the point of calling me gay, which probally reflects your own chimera. On 10/25/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't you tell us how you really feel, Gabe. (Or is it Gayb?) O_o -- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 11:45:20 -0700 From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale Adultery is only immoral from a religious standpoint. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
Re: [MBZ] Trunk lock
The Rumble seat idea is brilliant and has mine beat by a long shot! I would honestly say to keep trying different locksmiths, theres gotta be one out there that can handle the problem. On 10/26/05, Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many thanks to: Thomas E. Potter, Steve Van Cleve, Don Merriman, Levi Smith, Dave M., Mitch Haley, Christopher McCann, Kevin Kraly, Randy Bennell, Luther Gulseth, Gabriel S., Rick Knoble, Mike Boerner, Dennis Perkins, Lt. Don, David Brodbeck, and Steve McSween for the suggestions on getting the trunk lid open. I'm going to try each one before drilling out the lock. If I have to drill out the lock and that doesn't work, I might try Gabriel S.', but I'll probably make a rumble seat out of it. The first car in my family back in the 1930s, an Oakland, had a rumble seat and it was great. (o:] Sincerely, Gerry Archer '83 240D + 300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
[MBZ] Shoehorn
Anyone think I can shoehorn this puppy into my engine bay? http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ccsshb/12cyl/ -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-
