Re: [MBZ] '84 300CD Headlights

2017-07-24 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
Yep, they're the best in both performance and appearance

Jaime


On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 11:12 AM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:52:27 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > I used the Hella sealed beam conversions from Amazon on my 1982 300D and
> > was really pleased with them.
>
>One of the reviews for the light Jamie listed says,
>
>5 out of 5 stars Best 7" H4 eCode headlight on market.
>ByRacerXon May 17, 2014
>Verified Purchase
>
>Real eCode light!
>
>Way better than Hella H4 eCode. I swapped just one headlight for
>comparison, and put the same 60/55w bulb back in. Side-by-side with
>Cibie on left an Hella on right. The Cibie was brighter, with wider
>pattern, and sharper cut-off. Google search for "Cibie Hella Daniel
>Stern" to find spectrometer graphs for real quantitative analysis.
>
>Hella has more stray light above the cut-off which results in glare to
>oncoming traffic. With perfectly aimed lights, I still occasionally got
>flashed by cars coming towards me. With the Cibie, I was able to upgrade
>to 100/80w bulbs with no one ever flashing me! I would guesstimate
>there's twice as much light on the road now and much less going into
>other drivers eyes compared to before.
>
>UPDATE: forgot to mention that the high-beam performance is also better
>with the Cibie light compared to Hella. When both aimed for optimum
>low-beam performance, the high-beams on the Hellas went into the trees!
>Not very useful unless you're a squirrel! The Cibie high-beam was tight
>and focused and stayed on the road 1km away!
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] '84 300CD Headlights

2017-07-24 Thread Craig via Mercedes 
On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:52:27 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I used the Hella sealed beam conversions from Amazon on my 1982 300D and
> was really pleased with them.

   One of the reviews for the light Jamie listed says,

   5 out of 5 stars Best 7" H4 eCode headlight on market.
   ByRacerXon May 17, 2014
   Verified Purchase

   Real eCode light!

   Way better than Hella H4 eCode. I swapped just one headlight for
   comparison, and put the same 60/55w bulb back in. Side-by-side with
   Cibie on left an Hella on right. The Cibie was brighter, with wider
   pattern, and sharper cut-off. Google search for "Cibie Hella Daniel
   Stern" to find spectrometer graphs for real quantitative analysis.

   Hella has more stray light above the cut-off which results in glare to
   oncoming traffic. With perfectly aimed lights, I still occasionally got
   flashed by cars coming towards me. With the Cibie, I was able to upgrade
   to 100/80w bulbs with no one ever flashing me! I would guesstimate
   there's twice as much light on the road now and much less going into
   other drivers eyes compared to before.

   UPDATE: forgot to mention that the high-beam performance is also better
   with the Cibie light compared to Hella. When both aimed for optimum
   low-beam performance, the high-beams on the Hellas went into the trees!
   Not very useful unless you're a squirrel! The Cibie high-beam was tight
   and focused and stayed on the road 1km away!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] '84 300CD Headlights

2017-07-24 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes 
I used the Hella sealed beam conversions from Amazon on my 1982 300D and was 
really pleased with them.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002M9QJM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8=1

They were $30/each and included the stock 55W lamp.  Each took all of maybe 10 
minutes to swap out.  The beam pattern was much better.

-D

> On Jul 24, 2017, at 7:50 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Do you like the styling of Euro lamps and are you willing to pay for them?
> If so, Hella are OEM and somewhat expensive, TYC are Asian and said to be 
> pretty good. 
> 
> Do you like the current styling?
> If so, all you need are a pair of 7" E-code lamps, here's one example:
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002M9QJM
> 
> You can also upgrade the fog lamps, I think they're 5 3/4".
> 
> As for LED, some have decent beam patterns, most do not, anything price 
> competitive with the Hellas I linked above is pretty much guaranteed to be 
> horrible. Don't buy LEDs without a specific product recommendation from 
> somebody who knows what he's talking about (not me).
> LED bulbs in lamps designed for normal bulbs won't work, it has to be 
> designed 
> as a LED lamp assembly and it has to be done right. 
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] '84 300CD Headlights

2017-07-24 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
In addition to the earlier comments, you may also want to upgrade the wiring to 
the lights with a relay kit, either of you own construction, or from Daniel 
Stern. 
See these links. 

‎http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/relays/relays.html

‎https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d0ikK5IQa0=em

‎https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-mU5trb2Mw=em

‎https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6UMR0nEZg=em

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] '84 300CD Headlights

2017-07-24 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes 

Do you like the styling of Euro lamps and are you willing to pay for them?
If so, Hella are OEM and somewhat expensive, TYC are Asian and said to be 
pretty good. 

Do you like the current styling?
If so, all you need are a pair of 7" E-code lamps, here's one example:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002M9QJM

You can also upgrade the fog lamps, I think they're 5 3/4".

As for LED, some have decent beam patterns, most do not, anything price 
competitive with the Hellas I linked above is pretty much guaranteed to be 
horrible. Don't buy LEDs without a specific product recommendation from 
somebody who knows what he's talking about (not me).
LED bulbs in lamps designed for normal bulbs won't work, it has to be designed 
as a LED lamp assembly and it has to be done right. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] '84 300CD Headlights

2017-07-24 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
Ralph,

These are the ones to get:
https://www.amazon.com/Cibie-082440-82440-Light-Unit/dp/B008DQV88Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1500896853=8-1=cibie+082440

They look very much like the original lights, fit the car without
modification, plug directly into the factory wiring harness, and use
standard H4 bulbs.  Oh, and they're really outstanding lights.

Installing them is as easy as changing a sealed beam.  But you should
adjust the light alignment after installation to ensure proper aiming.

Good luck,
Jaime


On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 6:51 AM, Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Was wondering what was available to upgrade the existing seal beam
> headlights on my '84 300CD to a brighter system.  Is there an LED Seal Beam
> replacement for these cars?
> Any ideas?
> ThanksRalph '84 300 CD  '87 300 SDL
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[MBZ] '84 300CD Headlights

2017-07-24 Thread Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes 
Was wondering what was available to upgrade the existing seal beam headlights 
on my '84 300CD to a brighter system.  Is there an LED Seal Beam replacement 
for these cars?
Any ideas?
ThanksRalph '84 300 CD          '87 300 SDL

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