[MBZ] '84 300d problems....

2008-01-26 Thread trey daugherty
hello, my name is trey. i'm from ardmore, oklahoma and just happened to 
come across your website while looking around on eBay for some parts to 
my mercedes. i bought my '84 300d from a guy in edmond about 6 months 
ago and have been somewhat pleased with it since then. the only thing 
that has me unhappy is what i'm assuming is a vacuum problem. about 2 
months ago i noticed that my car wouldn't die when i turned the key off. 
so i began popping the hood and just killing it like that. well over 
time this got more and more annoying so i ended up ordering a vacuum 
pump from the guy that i'd purchased the car from and had my dad help me 
to install it. this seemed to help somewhat for a little while. however, 
within the past month i've noticed that the problem is back. along with 
not dying when i turn the key off, i've also noticed that the locks are 
hesitant to lock and unlock when the key is turned in the door, the air 
conditioner / heater tends to go from blowing really hard to hardly at 
all and that braking has become very hard to do. but the only thing is, 
sometimes these problems exist and other times they don't. so i didn't 
know if there is possible a vacuum line leak or what? anyway, if you 
have any suggestions or advice, i would greatly appreciate it.

thank you,
trey

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Re: [MBZ] '84 300d problems....

2008-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley

The brake circuit *SHOULD* be protected from vacuum leaks in the non
essential circuits like the locks, climate control, engine stop, etc. 
I'd check for vacuum at the pump and work my way down to the brake
booster. It is possible that a cracked brake booster could cause
the whole mess, but you'd want to be very sure about that diagnosis
before going to the expense and bother of replacing it. (OTOH, the vac
pump was probably a great deal of expense and bother too)

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] '84 300d problems....

2008-01-26 Thread Jim Cathey
> know if there is possible a vacuum line leak or what?

You have an intermittent (and getting worse) vacuum leak.
Classic.

If you do not have a MityVac (or equivalent), you need to
get one, then start dividing and conquering the various
vacuum systems.  Start with the locks.  As a test, remove
the yellow hose from the vacuum supply cluster under the
hood and put a golf tee in the rubber to cork it off.
Then get back to us.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] '84 300d problems....

2008-01-26 Thread Jim Cathey
> ...remove the yellow hose...

I suppose I should mention that this will take the
vacuum door lock system down!  It's usually the
first culprit to check, well before you replace
a vacuum pump.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 84 300D problems

2008-01-27 Thread Dan Weeks
Trey:

I had the exact same problem. My mechanic found that the vac pump  
wasn't pulling enough vac and that
there was a crack in the brake booster. Replaced the vac pump and  
some related vac lines, fittings, and check valve, and epoxied the  
brake booster. It is possible for brakes, heating valves, and shutoff  
to be affected by the same cause; mine were.

I'd check the vac pump for pulling spec first, then work back from  
there.

Done professionally, it wasn't a cheap fix, but works better than  
ever now.

Good luck!

Dan
82 300SD, 300k


On Jan 26, 2008, at 9:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> hello, my name is trey. i'm from ardmore, oklahoma and just  
> happened to
> come across your website while looking around on eBay for some  
> parts to
> my mercedes. i bought my '84 300d from a guy in edmond about 6 months
> ago and have been somewhat pleased with it since then. the only thing
> that has me unhappy is what i'm assuming is a vacuum problem. about 2
> months ago i noticed that my car wouldn't die when i turned the key  
> off.
> so i began popping the hood and just killing it like that. well over
> time this got more and more annoying so i ended up ordering a vacuum
> pump from the guy that i'd purchased the car from and had my dad  
> help me
> to install it. this seemed to help somewhat for a little while.  
> however,
> within the past month i've noticed that the problem is back. along  
> with
> not dying when i turn the key off, i've also noticed that the locks  
> are
> hesitant to lock and unlock when the key is turned in the door, the  
> air
> conditioner / heater tends to go from blowing really hard to hardly at
> all and that braking has become very hard to do. but the only thing  
> is,
> sometimes these problems exist and other times they don't. so i didn't
> know if there is possible a vacuum line leak or what? anyway, if you
> have any suggestions or advice, i would greatly appreciate it.
>
> thank you,
> trey

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Re: [MBZ] '84 300d problems....

2008-01-27 Thread Peter Frederick
More likely the plastic part in the main vac line from the pump to  
the booster is bad, or the booster is blown.  Check the main line for  
cracks there, and replace if at all iffy.

You will need a mitivac or similar hand pump to check the booster --  
it must hold vac indefinitely, if not replace.

Expect to replace all the small rubber connectors in the vacuum  
system that are exposed to heat and light, the rubber goes bad (rock  
hard in some cases, turns to mush in others) -- this will restore  
things like locks and shutoff solenoids.

Peter


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