Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: [Okietalk] Masks
True that. My doctors in small practices either retired (like my old dermatologist) or joined a big operation (my new dermatologist / Duke Med). Senator McCain did many things in his life but I will only remember one vote. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes Max Dillon via Mercedes > > Thank obamacare for that, basically tilted the playing field to favor big > hospitals, big insurance, big pharma. Massive sellout of our doctors and > nurses, pretty much eliminated the ability to run a private practice. Sadly > one > bitter senator managed to "save" obamacare, pissed that he lost the > presidential primary to an upstart. > > Max Dillon > Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: [Okietalk] Masks
Exactly Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2020, at 1:14 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have a question: > > What is the particle size that contain the virus as expelled from humans when > they talk, breathe, sing, sneeze, or cough? Without knowing that critical > fact, we have no idea how effective masks are. > > Greg > > -Original Message- > From: Okietalk [mailto:okietalk-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb > Striplin via Okietalk > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 9:20 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List; okiet...@okiebenz.com > Cc: Kaleb Striplin > Subject: [Okietalk] Masks > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: [Okietalk] Masks
Thank obamacare for that, basically tilted the playing field to favor big hospitals, big insurance, big pharma. Massive sellout of our doctors and nurses, pretty much eliminated the ability to run a private practice. Sadly one bitter senator managed to "save" obamacare, pissed that he lost the presidential primary to an upstart. Max Dillon Charleston SC Jul 6, 2020 9:35:31 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes : > For some reason we as a society have decided it makes sense to pay the bulk > of our health care workers peanuts. We value the CEO way more than the people > who actually do any work. I'm not really sure what a hospital CEO does beside > figuring out ways to generate funding for his/her own salary... > -Curt > > On Monday, July 6, 2020, 4:46:06 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > I think the answer is, like most things about this disease, we don't > really know. > > Droplets, spit, snot -- yes a mask will obviously contain that. > > Aerosolized virus particles, probably not. It would be like trying to > contain mosquitoes with chicken wire. If that turns out to be how the > virus spreads, a typical "cloth mask" will be basically useless. > > It's my guess that in the end we'll conclude that basic hygiene (washing > hands, not picking your nose, covering your coughs, staying home if > you're sick) will be about the best we can do. A large number of people > are bad at this. I suspect a large number of nursing home workers are > shockingly bad at this. > > Allan > > Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes writes: > >> I have a question: >> >> What is the particle size that contain the virus as expelled from >> humans when they talk, breathe, sing, sneeze, or cough? Without >> knowing that critical fact, we have no idea how effective masks are. >> >> Greg >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: [Okietalk] Masks
Say on Curt. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 9:35 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > For some reason we as a society have decided it makes sense to pay the > bulk of our health care workers peanuts. We value the CEO way more than the > people who actually do any work. I'm not really sure what a hospital CEO > does beside figuring out ways to generate funding for his/her own salary... > -Curt > > On Monday, July 6, 2020, 4:46:06 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > I think the answer is, like most things about this disease, we don't > really know. > > Droplets, spit, snot -- yes a mask will obviously contain that. > > Aerosolized virus particles, probably not. It would be like trying to > contain mosquitoes with chicken wire. If that turns out to be how the > virus spreads, a typical "cloth mask" will be basically useless. > > It's my guess that in the end we'll conclude that basic hygiene (washing > hands, not picking your nose, covering your coughs, staying home if > you're sick) will be about the best we can do. A large number of people > are bad at this. I suspect a large number of nursing home workers are > shockingly bad at this. > > Allan > > Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes writes: > > > I have a question: > > > > What is the particle size that contain the virus as expelled from > > humans when they talk, breathe, sing, sneeze, or cough? Without > > knowing that critical fact, we have no idea how effective masks are. > > > > Greg > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: [Okietalk] Masks
For some reason we as a society have decided it makes sense to pay the bulk of our health care workers peanuts. We value the CEO way more than the people who actually do any work. I'm not really sure what a hospital CEO does beside figuring out ways to generate funding for his/her own salary... -Curt On Monday, July 6, 2020, 4:46:06 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: I think the answer is, like most things about this disease, we don't really know. Droplets, spit, snot -- yes a mask will obviously contain that. Aerosolized virus particles, probably not. It would be like trying to contain mosquitoes with chicken wire. If that turns out to be how the virus spreads, a typical "cloth mask" will be basically useless. It's my guess that in the end we'll conclude that basic hygiene (washing hands, not picking your nose, covering your coughs, staying home if you're sick) will be about the best we can do. A large number of people are bad at this. I suspect a large number of nursing home workers are shockingly bad at this. Allan Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes writes: > I have a question: > > What is the particle size that contain the virus as expelled from > humans when they talk, breathe, sing, sneeze, or cough? Without > knowing that critical fact, we have no idea how effective masks are. > > Greg > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: [Okietalk] Masks
I think the answer is, like most things about this disease, we don't really know. Droplets, spit, snot -- yes a mask will obviously contain that. Aerosolized virus particles, probably not. It would be like trying to contain mosquitoes with chicken wire. If that turns out to be how the virus spreads, a typical "cloth mask" will be basically useless. It's my guess that in the end we'll conclude that basic hygiene (washing hands, not picking your nose, covering your coughs, staying home if you're sick) will be about the best we can do. A large number of people are bad at this. I suspect a large number of nursing home workers are shockingly bad at this. Allan Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes writes: > I have a question: > > What is the particle size that contain the virus as expelled from > humans when they talk, breathe, sing, sneeze, or cough? Without > knowing that critical fact, we have no idea how effective masks are. > > Greg > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: [Okietalk] Masks
I have a question: What is the particle size that contain the virus as expelled from humans when they talk, breathe, sing, sneeze, or cough? Without knowing that critical fact, we have no idea how effective masks are. Greg -Original Message- From: Okietalk [mailto:okietalk-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Okietalk Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 9:20 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List; okiet...@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb Striplin Subject: [Okietalk] Masks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com