Re: [MBZ] [nwbd-discuss] Making a 2000 Dodge 2500 diesel "Biodiesel ready"
We use a 2003 Dodge 2500 with the 2nd generation Cummins where I work and as far as I'm concerned they are much quieter and run smoother than the 12 valve. The truck was bought as a bare frame with a extended cab and we installed a flatbed on it. I do believe the 2000 model is the same as the 2003, engine wise 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Jim Beidle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: David Goldsmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 18:41:39 -0700 Subject: Re: [MBZ] [nwbd-discuss] Making a 2000 Dodge 2500 diesel "Biodiesel ready" Hi David; The 2000 Cummins engine is probably going to be louder than any later model trucks. It is a 2nd Generation 24-Valve 6 Cylinder in line engine. Most of the noise in older diesels comes from the mechanical injection pump. Modern trucks, such as the Ford/Navstar Chevy/Isuzu and 3rd Gen Cummins use a different fuel delivery system called Common Rail. These are electronically fired injectors, so much less noise. I'm not sure about whether that engine uses return lines at all, but I suspect not. My 12V Cummins has no return lines. You can learn more about this specific engine at http://www.turbodieselregister.com/. Regards, Jim Beidle David Goldsmith wrote: >Hi, folks! Wife and I are on the verge of buying an >'00 Dodge 2500 diesel to run on biodiesel. My main >concern, given my history, is with fuel injector >return lines. On examining the engine, I noted that >the injectors appear to be inside the engine block, or >at least not have return lines. Which of these is in >fact the case? If the injectors are inside the block, >do they have return lines, and if so, are they made of >rubber, metal, or what? If made of non-Viton rubber, >how difficult is it to get at them to replace them? >Are there any other biodiesel-related issues >particular to Cummins diesels of this era of which we >should be aware? > >Also, the engine was louder than we expected (and >we've heard other diesels, including other diesel >pick-ups which we've test driven, but all these were >Fords) but otherwise seemed to run smoothly; could >that be cause for concern? > >Finally, about when do these vehicles need the timing >belt replaced, and about how expensive a service is >that (parts and labor)? > >Sorry to bother you, and thanks! > >DG > > > >__ >Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 >http://mail.yahoo.com >___ >Discussion mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://lists.nwbiodiesel.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion > > > ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Look What The New Netscape.com Can Do! Now you can preview dozens of stories and have the ones you select delivered to you without ever leaving the Top Home Page. And the new Tool Box gives you one click access to local Movie times, Maps, White Pages and more. See for yourself at http://netcenter.netscape.com/netcenter/
Re: [MBZ] [nwbd-discuss] Making a 2000 Dodge 2500 diesel "Biodiesel ready"
Not set on an '00 per se, it's just that the particular '00 truck we're ogling best meets all our other criteria and it appears we can get it for a good price. DG --- Rory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you have your heart set on an 00 for any reason? > The block number > you want to watch out for is the 53 block. I don't > read alot of the 24 > valve posts since I own a 12v which would be my > choice, the P7100 pump > can burn almost any type diesel type fuel ( JP8 JetA > etc.) and does > not have the dreaded VP44 and lift pump issue. Yes > the 12v and 24v do > have the killer dowel pin issue but really easy to > fix. Like others > have said wander on over to TDR and poke around. > > Good luck > > Rory > 97' 3500 CTD auto 300HP 220K miles > (was my daily driver till it cost me close to $100 > to fill, building > my biodiesel proc. ASAP) > > On 10/3/05, Jim Beidle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi David; > > > > The 2000 Cummins engine is probably going to be > louder than any later > > model trucks. It is a 2nd Generation 24-Valve 6 > Cylinder in line engine. > > Most of the noise in older diesels comes from the > mechanical injection > > pump. Modern trucks, such as the Ford/Navstar > Chevy/Isuzu and 3rd Gen > > Cummins use a different fuel delivery system > called Common Rail. These > > are electronically fired injectors, so much less > noise. I'm not sure > > about whether that engine uses return lines at > all, but I suspect not. > > My 12V Cummins has no return lines. You can learn > more about this > > specific engine at > http://www.turbodieselregister.com/. > > > > Regards, > > > > Jim Beidle > > > > David Goldsmith wrote: > > > > >Hi, folks! Wife and I are on the verge of buying > an > > >'00 Dodge 2500 diesel to run on biodiesel. My > main > > >concern, given my history, is with fuel injector > > >return lines. On examining the engine, I noted > that > > >the injectors appear to be inside the engine > block, or > > >at least not have return lines. Which of these > is in > > >fact the case? If the injectors are inside the > block, > > >do they have return lines, and if so, are they > made of > > >rubber, metal, or what? If made of non-Viton > rubber, > > >how difficult is it to get at them to replace > them? > > >Are there any other biodiesel-related issues > > >particular to Cummins diesels of this era of > which we > > >should be aware? > > > > > >Also, the engine was louder than we expected (and > > >we've heard other diesels, including other diesel > > >pick-ups which we've test driven, but all these > were > > >Fords) but otherwise seemed to run smoothly; > could > > >that be cause for concern? > > > > > >Finally, about when do these vehicles need the > timing > > >belt replaced, and about how expensive a service > is > > >that (parts and labor)? > > > > > >Sorry to bother you, and thanks! > > > > > >DG > > > > > > > > > > > >__ > > >Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >___ > > >Discussion mailing list > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >http://lists.nwbiodiesel.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] [nwbd-discuss] Making a 2000 Dodge 2500 diesel "Biodiesel ready"
Do you have your heart set on an 00 for any reason? The block number you want to watch out for is the 53 block. I don't read alot of the 24 valve posts since I own a 12v which would be my choice, the P7100 pump can burn almost any type diesel type fuel ( JP8 JetA etc.) and does not have the dreaded VP44 and lift pump issue. Yes the 12v and 24v do have the killer dowel pin issue but really easy to fix. Like others have said wander on over to TDR and poke around. Good luck Rory 97' 3500 CTD auto 300HP 220K miles (was my daily driver till it cost me close to $100 to fill, building my biodiesel proc. ASAP) On 10/3/05, Jim Beidle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi David; > > The 2000 Cummins engine is probably going to be louder than any later > model trucks. It is a 2nd Generation 24-Valve 6 Cylinder in line engine. > Most of the noise in older diesels comes from the mechanical injection > pump. Modern trucks, such as the Ford/Navstar Chevy/Isuzu and 3rd Gen > Cummins use a different fuel delivery system called Common Rail. These > are electronically fired injectors, so much less noise. I'm not sure > about whether that engine uses return lines at all, but I suspect not. > My 12V Cummins has no return lines. You can learn more about this > specific engine at http://www.turbodieselregister.com/. > > Regards, > > Jim Beidle > > David Goldsmith wrote: > > >Hi, folks! Wife and I are on the verge of buying an > >'00 Dodge 2500 diesel to run on biodiesel. My main > >concern, given my history, is with fuel injector > >return lines. On examining the engine, I noted that > >the injectors appear to be inside the engine block, or > >at least not have return lines. Which of these is in > >fact the case? If the injectors are inside the block, > >do they have return lines, and if so, are they made of > >rubber, metal, or what? If made of non-Viton rubber, > >how difficult is it to get at them to replace them? > >Are there any other biodiesel-related issues > >particular to Cummins diesels of this era of which we > >should be aware? > > > >Also, the engine was louder than we expected (and > >we've heard other diesels, including other diesel > >pick-ups which we've test driven, but all these were > >Fords) but otherwise seemed to run smoothly; could > >that be cause for concern? > > > >Finally, about when do these vehicles need the timing > >belt replaced, and about how expensive a service is > >that (parts and labor)? > > > >Sorry to bother you, and thanks! > > > >DG > > > > > > > >__ > >Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > >http://mail.yahoo.com > >___ > >Discussion mailing list > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://lists.nwbiodiesel.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion > > > > > > > > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >
Re: [MBZ] [nwbd-discuss] Making a 2000 Dodge 2500 diesel "Biodiesel ready"
Hi David; The 2000 Cummins engine is probably going to be louder than any later model trucks. It is a 2nd Generation 24-Valve 6 Cylinder in line engine. Most of the noise in older diesels comes from the mechanical injection pump. Modern trucks, such as the Ford/Navstar Chevy/Isuzu and 3rd Gen Cummins use a different fuel delivery system called Common Rail. These are electronically fired injectors, so much less noise. I'm not sure about whether that engine uses return lines at all, but I suspect not. My 12V Cummins has no return lines. You can learn more about this specific engine at http://www.turbodieselregister.com/. Regards, Jim Beidle David Goldsmith wrote: Hi, folks! Wife and I are on the verge of buying an '00 Dodge 2500 diesel to run on biodiesel. My main concern, given my history, is with fuel injector return lines. On examining the engine, I noted that the injectors appear to be inside the engine block, or at least not have return lines. Which of these is in fact the case? If the injectors are inside the block, do they have return lines, and if so, are they made of rubber, metal, or what? If made of non-Viton rubber, how difficult is it to get at them to replace them? Are there any other biodiesel-related issues particular to Cummins diesels of this era of which we should be aware? Also, the engine was louder than we expected (and we've heard other diesels, including other diesel pick-ups which we've test driven, but all these were Fords) but otherwise seemed to run smoothly; could that be cause for concern? Finally, about when do these vehicles need the timing belt replaced, and about how expensive a service is that (parts and labor)? Sorry to bother you, and thanks! DG __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Discussion mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.nwbiodiesel.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion
